[Encore] Hosting for V4 was RE: Ahoy! and a friendly request.

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I would google those sites with the world problem and help in it. EX: Linode.com + Help  or EX: Linode.com + Bad Service

Just to see what you get. Also For "MOO" ram math do this DB *2.5 during checkpoint and * 1.5 during normal operation. Thats a pretty good # to run by. Occassionaly it will spike or relax a bit, and of course this depends upon what you code, how efficient and the # of core proccess running (as a wizard do @forked all, assuming this command still works in V4 & 5 if not just do @forked)



-----Original Message-----
>From: Jane Turner <j.turner at qut.edu.au>
>Sent: Jun 25, 2009 2:22 AM
>To: Kevin Jepson <kevijeps at telusplanet.net>
>Cc: "encore at encore-consortium.org" <encore at encore-consortium.org>
>Subject: Re: [Encore] Hosting for V4 was RE: Ahoy! and a friendly request.
>
>:) good advice i know ....
>
>i have winmoo running all happy happy BUT of course the problem is that for a brief 3 month period i do run lost cities moo for hundreds of players .. and as anyone who has had to feed my facebook kitten will know, i am a bad parent!
>
>hosting services that look good so far:
>
>moo-cow-penguin: https://www.moocowpenguin.net/panel/order/?group=3 - altho they haven't yet gotten back to me about running a web server in the same space
>
>linode: http://www.linode.com/ .. but they haven't yet gotten back to me about specifics ...
>slicehost: http://www.slicehost.com/ .. instant response to query emails ... looking good but their deal isn't quite as generous as linode ..
>
>and dreamhost VPS: http://www.dreamhost.com/hosting-vps.html ... their server side deal is pretty good but i am very unsure of how their sliding RAM allocation scale might work out in practice - working out moo ram is a maths thing well beyond me!!
>
>so ... any other suggestions or stories about hosting still welcome ...
>
>:) xt
>
>________________________________________
>From: Kevin Jepson [kevijeps at telusplanet.net]
>Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 2:59 PM
>To: Jane Turner
>Cc: encore at encore-consortium.org
>Subject: Hosting  for V4 was RE: [Encore] Ahoy! and a friendly request.
>
>Thanks Truna!
>It was indeed a fabulous voyage.
>
>I tried looking for hosting to do the same thing a year or so ago and
>discovered that very few commercial services were willing to allow us to
>open the ports. Which is understandable really as they have to protect their
>other customers.
>
>The resource requirements to run V4 of EnCore are pretty small frankly so
>unless you are expecting hundreds of users at a time even a relatively low
>powered windows box will have enough oomph to do the job. Winmoo works very
>well for V4 no compiling necessary either.
>
>I have run 3 complete default v4 MOOs on my windows laptop when doing
>coding. (1 Ghz processor with 1.5 GB of Ram)
>
>The limiting factor is the web server not the MOO.
>
>You can test it out for yourself using the preconfigured Winmoo and Encore
>v4 MOO with the Eweb object browser, available at the Barn here:
>http://www.encore-consortium.org/Barn/files/docs/Ewebbed-enCore-V4.zip
>Installation instructions are in the zip file.
>
>When I got ashore in Grenada I actually loaded this up on my little Asus
>EEEPC (800Mhz processor, 1GB ram, 4 GB HD) and was able to do some code
>hacking when off watch :-) (strange how one wants such familiar things after
>4 months on a ship when you've read every book in the library already).  The
>EEEPC runs a customized Ubuntu Linux so I ended up running WinMOO under Wine
>but it still worked literally out of the box.
>
>I would suggest using a reasonably beefy Windows PC as the host and you
>should be able to do a lot of development. You can even make it available on
>the Net by just opening port 80 and whatever the two enCore ports you want
>in your firewall. The only configuration issues are setting up IIS on
>Windows but you can also use other lightweight freeware web servers for
>development if you don't want to mess with M$'s clunky server.
>
>The big advantages to this is cost, if you already have spare windows PC
>kicking around it's free, and the flexibility to do whatever you want with
>it.
>
>For the security conscious you can lock the windows PC down so that there is
>nothing running on it but the MOO and maybe an FTP server for uploading
>image files for the WEB side of EnCore.
>
>Just my 2cents worth.
>Ciao
>KJ
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jane Turner [mailto:j.turner at qut.edu.au]
>Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 7:02 PM
>To: Kevin Jepson
>Cc: encore at encore-consortium.org
>Subject: RE: [Encore] Ahoy! and a friendly request.
>
>
>and welcome back from what looks like a fabulous voyage ( i clocked the news
>page)
>
>one query and something that would be probably a useful resource on the barn
>is the issue of hosting ... i am pretty sure there was a conversation about
>this ages ago but i recall no solution ... perhaps someone has a better
>memory than i ... very easy :)
>
>i am looking to host our design moo (v4) somewhere other than its current
>site ... there are some nice hosting deals that offer shell access but the
>only one i can find that will allow the opening of extra ports costs extra
>...
>
>nothing i can find offers actual root access ... not surprising ..
>
>SO my question is this i guess: has anyone setup a v4 moo using virtual
>hosting and what are the issues?
>
>... i tried a dummy run on someone else's account and the first one seems to
>be the initial setup and pathways ... altho that might be my rubbish grasp
>on unix ...
>
>anyways, any information / gossip / advice welcome ..
>
>cheers love truna
>________________________________________
>From: encore-bounces at encore-consortium.org
>[encore-bounces at encore-consortium.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Jepson
>[kevijeps at telusplanet.net]
>Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 4:08 AM
>To: Encore at encore-consortium.org
>Subject: [Encore] Ahoy! and a friendly request.
>
>Ahoy Folks!
>I have just posted a brief update at the Barn
>http://www.encore-consortium.org/Barn/news.html
>I apologize for not doing much to update that site over the last year.
>Being literally "At Sea" for the last 6 months has kind of put a crimp in my
>Moo work :-) I have now "swallowed the anchor" as they say, so hopefully I
>will be able to keep adding more content.
>Which of course brings up the obvious question of...
>Where do I get that content?
>You can help me keep this enCore community resource a useful storehouse of
>tricks, tools and information by sending me links, code or anything you
>might think would be of interest to the enCore community.
>While much of what is on the site currently is applicable to V3 and V4 of
>enCore (and LambdaMOOs in general) I would like to start compiling similar
>info for V5 as well.
>I don't want to duplicate the offficial documentation at
>http://lingo.uib.no/v5/ but if you have tricks or tools you've found useful
>please send them along to me to share and I'll put them up at the Barn.
>Ciao
>KJ
>
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