From Matthew.Coupe@nccedu.com Wed Mar 1 04:03:38 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 01 Mar 2006 04:03:38 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 125F75BB0 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 04:03:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611AE5755 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 04:03:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02585-01-33 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 04:03:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from he203war.uk.vianw.net (he203war.uk.vianw.net [195.102.244.150]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB402CB1 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 04:03:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from [195.102.153.3] (helo=nccexch001.nccedu.com) by he203war.uk.vianw.net with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1FEOB6-0007Fz-D1 for encore@utdallas.edu; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 10:03:28 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C63D17.849674E2" Subject: [encore] proxies and the like Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 10:04:24 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Matthew Coupe" To: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1605 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Matthew.Coupe@nccedu.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Matthew.Coupe@nccedu.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C63D17.849674E2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow, thanks for all of the help! =20 OK, so the network is not under my control and is pretty much the other side of the world from me. However I can recommend things for them to try as it's vitally important they can login before Monday morning... =20 I'll give you all of the information I know. =20 The computer in the office is Windows XP pro with SP2 and the latest version of Java. Pop-ups etc are not an issue. It CAN connect through both the Xpress login screen AND via a simple telnet connection. This PC works as a proxy for the computers in the lab. =20 The computers in the lab are all running Windows XP pro with SP2 and the latest version of Java. It CANNOT connect through Xpress and receives the Java.Lang error, the exact error message I am unsure of due to appalling quality of phone lines! When they try to connect via telnet they receive a 'could not open connection to the host, on port 7777 (and 7000 and 8000): connect failed.' =20 Trond, I believe you're onto something for sure with the persistent telnet connection. Perhaps the proxy will not allow ports other than 80 to be accessed, but then how would they be able to see the login screen on port 7000. Yes, to stop thinking out loud I'm thinking persistence. Would that make sense to everyone? =20 Daniel I agree that I can pretty much discount a firewall problem as the proxy pc can connect. =20 I suppose the best plan of attack would be for them to check all of the parameters on their proxy software and perhaps contact the vendors of them to see if they know what the problem could be. I'll definitely push for a different network configuration as the proxy setup seems to be causing the problems. =20 Kind Regards, =20 Matthew ------_=_NextPart_001_01C63D17.849674E2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Wow, thanks for all of the = help!

 

OK, so the network is not under my control and = is pretty much the other side of the world from me. However I can recommend = things for them to try as it’s vitally important they can login before = Monday morning…

 

I’ll give you all of the information I = know.

 

The computer in the office is Windows XP pro = with SP2 and the latest version of Java. Pop-ups etc are not an issue. It CAN = connect through both the Xpress login screen AND via a simple telnet connection. = This PC works as a proxy for the computers in the = lab.

 

The computers in the lab are all running = Windows XP pro with SP2 and the latest version of Java. It CANNOT connect through = Xpress and receives the Java.Lang error, the exact error message I am unsure of = due to appalling quality of phone lines! When they try to connect via telnet = they receive a ‘could not open connection to the host, on port 7777 = (and 7000 and 8000): connect failed.’

 

Trond, I believe you’re onto something = for sure with the persistent telnet connection. Perhaps the proxy will not allow = ports other than 80 to be accessed, but then how would they be able to see the = login screen on port 7000. Yes, to stop thinking out loud I’m thinking persistence. Would that make sense to = everyone?

 

Daniel I agree that I can pretty much discount = a firewall problem as the proxy pc can = connect.

 

I suppose the best plan of attack would be for = them to check all of the parameters on their proxy software and perhaps = contact the vendors of them to see if they know what the problem could be. = I’ll definitely push for a different network configuration as the proxy setup = seems to be causing the problems.

 

Kind Regards,

 

Matthew

------_=_NextPart_001_01C63D17.849674E2-- From Matthew.Coupe@nccedu.com Thu Mar 2 03:14:22 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 02 Mar 2006 03:14:23 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600375CE1 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 03:14:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8DEA1CC for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 03:14:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13171-02-6 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 03:14:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from he203war.uk.vianw.net (he203war.uk.vianw.net [195.102.244.150]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52ECB344F for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 03:14:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from [195.102.153.3] (helo=nccexch001.nccedu.com) by he203war.uk.vianw.net with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1FEjt4-0007Zd-CX for encore@utdallas.edu; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 09:14:18 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C63DD9.D0CCEE7E" Subject: [encore] Proxies - the resolution Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 09:15:13 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Matthew Coupe" To: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1606 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Matthew.Coupe@nccedu.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Matthew.Coupe@nccedu.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C63DD9.D0CCEE7E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there, Well, from the subject of this email I guess you all worked out what it's about already! =20 I thought I'd share the resolution as it's always nice to know because you never know when it might happen to you. The problem was on the proxy server. The parameter to allow socks was disabled and so no persistent connection could be made. When socks were enabled they could connect ok. Simple, when you know what you're looking for. The process of elimination wins again! =20 Thought we were never going to sort it... =20 Thanks for all of the help I received, =20 Matthew ------_=_NextPart_001_01C63DD9.D0CCEE7E Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi there,

Well, from the subject of this email I guess = you all worked out what it’s about already!

 

I thought I’d share the resolution as = it’s always nice to know because you never know when it might happen to you. = The problem was on the proxy server. The parameter to allow socks was = disabled and so no persistent connection could be made. When socks were enabled they = could connect ok. Simple, when you know what you’re looking for. The = process of elimination wins again!

 

Thought we were never going to sort = it…

 

Thanks for all of the help I = received,

 

Matthew

------_=_NextPart_001_01C63DD9.D0CCEE7E-- From lippold@gmail.com Thu Mar 2 10:22:11 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:22:11 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FBEB5CCE for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:22:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955D5A25A for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:22:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 10517-01-2 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:22:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.193]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C19E3465 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:21:53 -0600 (CST) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 9so467422nzo for ; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 08:21:53 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=q5WcDZOBAqttPuHRyKnNzyGVAdVOmStkCvWEMtT7tlaQrIByd0JZV9m1T+QeeqcVIPcBlvkErKEY7pUX26rXi3SCBg/4FtODEe+hgtZKrwg3uG0ETegv5bVmahT5pK6XUPYr7evaHFIL+rsK0+X05STUFPebLDzJDDXaTMoSpIM= Received: by 10.36.90.15 with SMTP id n15mr1941303nzb; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 08:21:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.134.14 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 08:21:53 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <39d2723b0603020821x76341fd7i5e0235d84cdf913c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 11:21:53 -0500 From: "Aaron Lippold" To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Moo room log In-Reply-To: <4404A81E.5090609@uib.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <39d2723b0602270912t67b3b391u4bedd35478615d40@mail.gmail.com> <44045F91.9020704@accd.edu> <4404A81E.5090609@uib.no> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1607 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lippold@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lippold@gmail.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Thanks all for the replies. I got pulled off this for a few days. I will look into your suggested solutions. Just to clarify, all I wanted wanted was something to record what was said and copy it to a web page so other could see, on that day or any previous one, what was talked about in the room. Like a Blog in a way but via enCore. Thanks again, Aaron On 2/28/06, Daniel Jung wrote: > Hi > > This is an explanation of a questions Lennie raised, and a few questions > I want to add. (information about v5 is indented. The non-indented parts > go for current versions.) > > Lennie Irvin wrote: > > I may not know exactly what you mean by the question. You can set a > > recorder in a room and it will record all the talk in that room, though > > you can't view it until the recorder is turned off. > > Yes you can. When a recorder starts a session, a note is created right > away. This is why you may get a "quota exceeded" when you are low on > quota and wish to log a session: The creation of the (empty) note is > then prohibited. > > This note is kept in "Nirvana" (#-1) for the time of the recording. As > the conversation grows, line by line is added to this note. This is a > normal note which can be viewed at any time, including during recording. > > v5 has a convenient "preview" button/link which lets you read the > recording in progress. This is for participants showing up late (who > wish to read what has been said and done prior to their arrival), and > for the teacher, who wants to know how many utterances a given > player has contributed with in this session (there is a statistics > section on the note saying how many participants there are, naming > them, and mapping them to how many utterences they have contributed > with. The lines are colored (one user - one color), and utterances > are thus easily retrievable. This is generated on the fly, and works > already during recording. This is much more accurate, or: telling, > than the "idle time" in the @who command. > > When the recording is done, this note is "teleported" from Nirvana to > the recorder. The information about what note's #-number is stored on > the recorder.log property. > > Anyway, v5 makes automatically a log of the "user experience", i.e., > in a way, the old "personal Xpress Log" is ON by default (due to > reasons i don't want to explain here). So every player has a personal > log of his/her contribution, and, in fact, perception. Since it is > tied to the user, not the room, it works cross-room. And > cross-session, in fact. This log is kept until deleted. It can be > mailed by button click. > > When you want to record a room and make the "text" in the room > accessible, you could set up a recorder, start it, and put the log's web > address in the description of the room. I don't really get at what point > and how the user should be sent a transcript. A user usally swithced > rooms, and there are many questions: > > What transcript should be sent? One room only? If the user switches > rooms, should all rooms be monitored, and all room transcripts be sent? > At once? When the room is monitored non stop - should we time the > transcript, i.e., user John gets a transcript section from 3:15 AM to > 3:55 AM (a tiny part of a huge transcript)? > > BTW, recorders in v5 have a time stamp on each utterance, so this > could in fact be filtered rather easily. > > What portions of the transcripts that the user has not been a direct > part of, but has interest in reading (since it probably explains what > people were talking about before the user entered the room) should be sen= t? > > - Daniel > > > From lippold@gmail.com Thu Mar 2 10:24:37 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:24:38 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0A75CCE for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:24:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F38222D for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:24:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 10517-01-20 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:24:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.197]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886442CB1 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:24:34 -0600 (CST) Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j2so468629nzf for ; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 08:24:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dd0dY07YXbpy3j9QCNAVuGrMRdCL/Bmqf+1R2rVld4+MzCmgC+IxMsWKtyV5bqZg4Qc9vVcXwe3EOjNip5dTqaYnZVvprIKTvyiyBA2KhFh5gj1yDQc3Miqz06mX7gfNcCRUCjGPIJlkRk7R6ml1QF3S+IBg1VWP1JGcjGMrj44= Received: by 10.36.41.20 with SMTP id o20mr1910126nzo; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 08:24:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.36.134.14 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 08:24:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <39d2723b0603020824p5856827cl225ce333ecb8006c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 11:24:33 -0500 From: "Aaron Lippold" To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Moo room log In-Reply-To: <39d2723b0603020821x76341fd7i5e0235d84cdf913c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <39d2723b0602270912t67b3b391u4bedd35478615d40@mail.gmail.com> <44045F91.9020704@accd.edu> <4404A81E.5090609@uib.no> <39d2723b0603020821x76341fd7i5e0235d84cdf913c@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1608 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lippold@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lippold@gmail.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Daniel, I want it to be room based. i.e. all rooms have a daily log of what was said in them so that users can use them as collaboration tools that are persistent. Thanks, Aaron On 3/2/06, Aaron Lippold wrote: > Thanks all for the replies. I got pulled off this for a few days. I > will look into your suggested solutions. > > Just to clarify, all I wanted wanted was something to record what was > said and copy it to a web page so other could see, on that day or any > previous one, what was talked about in the room. Like a Blog in a way > but via enCore. > > Thanks again, > > Aaron > > On 2/28/06, Daniel Jung wrote: > > Hi > > > > This is an explanation of a questions Lennie raised, and a few question= s > > I want to add. (information about v5 is indented. The non-indented part= s > > go for current versions.) > > > > Lennie Irvin wrote: > > > I may not know exactly what you mean by the question. You can set a > > > recorder in a room and it will record all the talk in that room, thou= gh > > > you can't view it until the recorder is turned off. > > > > Yes you can. When a recorder starts a session, a note is created right > > away. This is why you may get a "quota exceeded" when you are low on > > quota and wish to log a session: The creation of the (empty) note is > > then prohibited. > > > > This note is kept in "Nirvana" (#-1) for the time of the recording. As > > the conversation grows, line by line is added to this note. This is a > > normal note which can be viewed at any time, including during recording= . > > > > v5 has a convenient "preview" button/link which lets you read the > > recording in progress. This is for participants showing up late (wh= o > > wish to read what has been said and done prior to their arrival), a= nd > > for the teacher, who wants to know how many utterances a given > > player has contributed with in this session (there is a statistics > > section on the note saying how many participants there are, naming > > them, and mapping them to how many utterences they have contributed > > with. The lines are colored (one user - one color), and utterances > > are thus easily retrievable. This is generated on the fly, and work= s > > already during recording. This is much more accurate, or: telling, > > than the "idle time" in the @who command. > > > > When the recording is done, this note is "teleported" from Nirvana to > > the recorder. The information about what note's #-number is stored on > > the recorder.log property. > > > > Anyway, v5 makes automatically a log of the "user experience", i.e.= , > > in a way, the old "personal Xpress Log" is ON by default (due to > > reasons i don't want to explain here). So every player has a person= al > > log of his/her contribution, and, in fact, perception. Since it is > > tied to the user, not the room, it works cross-room. And > > cross-session, in fact. This log is kept until deleted. It can be > > mailed by button click. > > > > When you want to record a room and make the "text" in the room > > accessible, you could set up a recorder, start it, and put the log's we= b > > address in the description of the room. I don't really get at what poin= t > > and how the user should be sent a transcript. A user usally swithced > > rooms, and there are many questions: > > > > What transcript should be sent? One room only? If the user switches > > rooms, should all rooms be monitored, and all room transcripts be sent? > > At once? When the room is monitored non stop - should we time the > > transcript, i.e., user John gets a transcript section from 3:15 AM to > > 3:55 AM (a tiny part of a huge transcript)? > > > > BTW, recorders in v5 have a time stamp on each utterance, so this > > could in fact be filtered rather easily. > > > > What portions of the transcripts that the user has not been a direct > > part of, but has interest in reading (since it probably explains what > > people were talking about before the user entered the room) should be s= ent? > > > > - Daniel > > > > > > > From prayner@hwy54.com.au Sun Mar 5 23:26:54 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 05 Mar 2006 23:26:54 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509205C72 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 23:26:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB18045D1 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 23:26:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 10583-01-24 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 23:26:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from radius.hwy54.com.au (radius.hwy54.com.au [203.58.105.230]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 888EC345A for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2006 23:26:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from radius.hwy54.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by radius.hwy54.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB22D7D5 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 15:26:47 +1000 (EST) Received: by radius.hwy54.com.au (Postfix, from userid 1005) id 6295CD7D4; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 15:26:46 +1000 (EST) Received: from server (unknown [203.49.193.27]) by radius.hwy54.com.au (Postfix) with SMTP id 11225D742 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 15:26:45 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <004901c640de$97500900$3c01a8c0@server> From: "paulrayner" To: Subject: [encore] difficulty getting MOO working Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 15:26:58 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01C64132.68A3E6E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0609-3, 03/03/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: AMaViS snapshot-20010407_SR_B X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1609 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: prayner@hwy54.com.au Precedence: bulk Reply-to: prayner@hwy54.com.au List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C64132.68A3E6E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm having difficulty getting my Moo/MUD actually running - and this was = the only forum I could find that looked like it may be helpful. I ftp'ed encore to my server - Fedora Core 1, sitting behind an IPCOP = firewall at home. I created a directory MOO in home, and put the encore.db into it. I = moved the Encore directory to the root of my web server /var/www/html. I uploaded LambdaMoo-1.8.1_Linux.tar.gz to the MOO directory in home. = Unzipped it to the moo directory, so it's there with encore.db. Both MOO = files were CHMOD to 755. What to do next has me beat? Paul ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C64132.68A3E6E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm having difficulty getting my = Moo/MUD actually=20 running - and this was the only forum I could find that looked like it = may be=20 helpful.
 
I ftp'ed encore to my server - Fedora = Core 1,=20 sitting behind an IPCOP firewall at home.
I created a directory MOO in home, and = put the=20 encore.db into it. I moved  the Encore directory to the root = of my web=20 server /var/www/html.
 
I uploaded LambdaMoo-1.8.1_Linux.tar.gz = to the MOO=20 directory in home. Unzipped it to the moo directory, so it's there with=20 encore.db. Both MOO files were CHMOD to 755.
 
What to do next has me = beat?
 
 
Paul
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C64132.68A3E6E0-- From rozemar@gvsu.edu Mon Mar 6 19:11:41 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 06 Mar 2006 19:11:41 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF825BCC for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 19:11:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF984C58 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 19:11:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03140-01-26 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 19:11:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from gvsu.edu (gwise-a2.server.gvsu.edu [148.61.5.164]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAF4B3430 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2006 19:11:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from SMTPDOM-MTA by gvsu.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 06 Mar 2006 20:11:36 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.5 Beta Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 20:11:10 -0500 From: "Robert Rozema" To: Subject: [encore] Mac OS X and enCore 5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1610 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: rozemar@gvsu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: rozemar@gvsu.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi everyone, Does anyone here have any experience using enCore and a Mac server? I'm = wondering if enCore 5 or an earlier version has any known bugs running on = a Mac OS X. =20 Any insights would be appreciated. Robert Rozema English Dept. Grand Valley State University http://faculty.gvsu.edu/rozemar From rozemar@gvsu.edu Tue Mar 7 14:27:56 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 07 Mar 2006 14:27:57 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2DF55BC3 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 14:27:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 606315379 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 14:27:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16300-01-66 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 14:27:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from gvsu.edu (gwise-a2.server.gvsu.edu [148.61.5.164]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF060345A for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 14:27:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from SMTPDOM-MTA by gvsu.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 15:27:51 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.5 Beta Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 15:27:11 -0500 From: "Robert Rozema" To: Subject: [encore] Beta 5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1611 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: rozemar@gvsu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: rozemar@gvsu.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi all, Am I right in thinking that enCore 5 is only available in beta version = right now? Robert Rozema English Dept. Grand Valley State University http://faculty.gvsu.edu/rozemar From jung@uib.no Tue Mar 7 14:32:46 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 07 Mar 2006 14:32:46 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531595CD1 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 14:32:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA055399 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 14:32:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16607-01-76 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 14:32:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from noralf.uib.no (noralf.uib.no [129.177.30.12]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43C7346A for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 14:32:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from alfred.uib.no (smtp.uib.no) [129.177.30.120] by noralf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FGirH-000563-Pn; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:32:40 +0100 Received: from 117.84-48-30.nextgentel.com ([10.24.104.19]) [84.48.30.117] by smtp.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FGirH-0004Rt-Ey; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:32:39 +0100 Message-ID: <440DEDE8.70703@uib.no> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 21:32:40 +0100 From: Daniel Jung User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Beta 5 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on noralf X-Scanner: c67ffa94f51f3d6d6e8be594004cd26a http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 0 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER Improper folded header field made up entirely of whitespace in message header 'X-UiB-SpamReport': X-archive-position: 1612 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jung@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jung@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Robert Rozema wrote: > Hi all, > > Am I right in thinking that enCore 5 is only available in beta version right now? > Correct. - Daniel From jung@uib.no Tue Mar 7 15:39:14 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 07 Mar 2006 15:39:14 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C2885BBB for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 15:39:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C615436 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 15:39:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23794-01 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 15:39:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from noralf.uib.no (noralf.uib.no [129.177.30.12]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D3593442 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 15:39:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from alfred.uib.no (smtp.uib.no) [129.177.30.120] by noralf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FGjtU-0001Om-2a; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:39:01 +0100 Received: from 117.84-48-30.nextgentel.com ([10.24.104.19]) [84.48.30.117] by smtp.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FGjtT-0004gN-OO; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:38:59 +0100 Message-ID: <440DFD75.40706@uib.no> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 22:39:01 +0100 From: Daniel Jung User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: encore Subject: [encore] Re: Beta 5 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on noralf X-Scanner: 8fd4be39c4dc937190393e77c3eb414f http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 0 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER Improper folded header field made up entirely of whitespace in message header 'X-UiB-SpamReport': X-archive-position: 1613 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jung@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jung@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Robert Rozema wrote: > How does enCore do on a MAC server? I really don't know. We run it on a linux box. The main difference between v5 and previous versions (moo-server, that is!) is that v5 is unicode. Meaning, we patched lambdamoo with Mathieu Fenniac's unicode patch (see http://www.stompstompstomp.com/software/#unicode_moo). It's about the only thing I can imagine that could make a difference. See ftp://ftp.utdallas.edu/pub/ah/moo/binaries/ for the MAC version of lambdamoo. It should probably be updated soon (with the unicode patch). - Daniel From lirvin@ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU Tue Mar 7 15:44:44 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 07 Mar 2006 15:44:44 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB955BBB for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 15:44:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D3921DF for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 15:44:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24604-01-17 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 15:44:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 274643430 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2006 15:44:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from [10.11.36.41] [10.11.36.41] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Tue, 07 Mar 2006 15:44:27 CST Message-ID: <440DFEB1.5080704@accd.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 15:44:17 -0600 From: Lennie Irvin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Some enCore Consortium News Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090500090006080200020005" X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1614 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lirvin@accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090500090006080200020005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone, I wanted to share just a bit of enCore and enCore Consortium related news with you (my apologies for being a bit tardy with these things). *Non-Profit Status* In early January, Barbara McManus, our treasurer, completed the IRS form (1023) to apply for tax-exempt status, and we are waiting to hear from the government. With our official 501(c)(3) status, we can receive tax-exempt donations from individuals or organizations. It is a grueling form to fill out, and we are all grateful to Barbara for taking on this task. *Support Sent* The Consortium has also sent $5,000 to University of Bergen to support the work of Daniel Jung and the Department of Humanistic Informatics at UiB on enCore Program development. *New Project--Support Requested* In January, Daniel Jung made a request of the enCore Consortium to support the work of Trond Pettersen in developing a single-source documentation solution for the new enCore v5. The Consortium Board of Directors in a February meeting agreed to support this project by both donating $3,000 for Trond's work and by seeking other sponsors for the programming work and the help text composing. Soon I will be making an appeal to all of you to support this work, but in the meantime, you can do a couple of painless (and free) things to support the Consortium as it seeks grants and sponsors: a) If your enCore site is not listed in the Portfolio of enCore MOOs , please contact Cynthia Haynes to get in the portfolio (cynthia.haynes@gmail.com) b) If you aren't already a member (or "associate") of the enCore Consortium, please consider joining: http://www.encore-consortium.org/Membership.htm . We currently have 71 members. Your participation will enhance the Consortium's ability to secure grant funding for program development. c) Also, please feel free to update your member profile if you need to. Thanks for you help! *enCore v5 News* Daniel will have to be the one to share definite information about the new v5 and its release. All I know is that he has been working very hard on it, and I think it is getting close. We hope to do usability testing on the beta version at Texas Tech University this May, and work has begun on the Documentation Project. A Sept. 2005 version of the beta v5 is available for you to explore if you like at http://lingo.uib.no:9002/ (contact me for an account). I know as the new version approaches we will be getting good information out to you about updating to it. More information about v5 (and what sorts of jobs need to be done!) can be found at http://lingo.uib.no/v5/ *Other tid-bits related to Grants *Jeffrey Schneider at Vassar College has been awarded a NITLE college grant to conduct a week-long workshop this summer on using enCore for foreign language instruction. Jeff Webb and Robert Rozema at Western Michigan University (Secondary Worlds enCore site) have received a substantial grant from their institution to expand his work in enCore to create immersive, interactive, and engaging virtual reality environments that support reading and writing in a variety of disciplines. Both of these grants are good signs of enCore's continued viability, which should be enhanced even more with the release of v5. I am interested in building from these two grants to put together a larger National Endowment for the Humanitities Grant (due in October), so let me know if you are interested in this effort. If you need any assistance putting together a grant for a special enCore-related project you are considering, please contact me for assistance. I hope all of you are well. I'd love to hear news of what is happening at your site these days (feel free to share with the list). Yours, Lennie --------------090500090006080200020005 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone,

I wanted to share just a bit of enCore and enCore Consortium related news with you (my apologies for being a bit tardy with these things). 

Non-Profit Status
In early January, Barbara McManus, our treasurer, completed the IRS form (1023) to apply for tax-exempt status, and we are waiting to hear from the government.  With our official 501(c)(3) status, we can receive tax-exempt donations from individuals or organizations.  It is a grueling form to fill out, and we are all grateful to Barbara for taking on this task.

Support Sent
The Consortium has also sent $5,000 to University of Bergen to support the work of Daniel Jung and the Department of Humanistic Informatics at UiB on enCore Program development. 

New Project--Support Requested
In January, Daniel Jung made a request of the enCore Consortium to support the work of Trond Pettersen in developing a single-source documentation solution for the new enCore v5.  The Consortium Board of Directors in a February meeting agreed to support this project by both donating $3,000 for Trond's work and by seeking other sponsors for the programming work and the help text composing.  Soon I will be making an appeal to all of you to support this work, but in the meantime, you can do a couple of painless (and free) things to support the Consortium as it seeks grants and sponsors:
a) If your enCore site is not listed in the Portfolio of enCore MOOs, please contact Cynthia Haynes to get in the portfolio (cynthia.haynes@gmail.com)
b) If you aren't already a member (or "associate") of the enCore Consortium, please consider joining: http://www.encore-consortium.org/Membership.htm .  We currently have 71 members.
Your participation will enhance the Consortium's ability to secure grant funding for program development.
c) Also, please feel free to update your member profile if you need to. 
Thanks for you help!

enCore v5 News
Daniel will have to be the one to share definite information about the new v5 and its release.  All I know is that he has been working very hard on it, and I think it is getting close.  We hope to do usability testing on the beta version at Texas Tech University this May, and work has begun on the Documentation Project.  A Sept. 2005 version of the beta v5 is available for you to explore if you like at http://lingo.uib.no:9002/ (contact me for an account). 

I know as the new version approaches we will be getting good information out to you about updating to it.  More information about v5 (and what sorts of jobs need to be done!) can be found at http://lingo.uib.no/v5/

Other tid-bits related to Grants
Jeffrey Schneider at Vassar College has been awarded a NITLE college grant to conduct a week-long workshop this summer on using enCore for foreign language instruction. 

Jeff Webb and Robert Rozema at Western Michigan University (Secondary Worlds enCore site) have received a substantial grant from their institution to expand his work in enCore to create immersive, interactive, and engaging virtual reality environments that support reading and writing in a variety of disciplines.

Both of these grants are good signs of enCore's continued viability, which should be enhanced even more with the release of v5.  I am interested in building from these two grants to put together a larger National Endowment for the Humanitities Grant (due in October), so let me know if you are interested in this effort. 

If you need any assistance putting together a grant for a special enCore-related project you are considering, please contact me for assistance. 

I hope all of you are well.  I'd love to hear news of what is happening at your site these days (feel free to share with the list).

Yours,

Lennie

--------------090500090006080200020005-- From cynthia.haynes@gmail.com Thu Mar 9 08:02:33 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 09 Mar 2006 08:02:34 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7CD5BB3 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 08:02:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B01FA2C6 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 08:02:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04511-01-9 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 08:02:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.206]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A197345C for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 08:02:25 -0600 (CST) Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l37so355155nfc for ; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 06:02:24 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:user-agent:date:subject:from:to:message-id:mime-version:content-type; b=NSL3KZZv3/HXc/59LVclpFBdjGSgnSzyHQcyNB09m0tQ9agXXOcQXT/+8WyXnLm5LCk5UfWKyJ73AYY0G6MSt1Z2Q5bCTz0CRJCp1/FKDbsOs8wrGVYKd2NP5HLIjQHb0hrjZq0nStcY5+y97R+nH5ZS8dqgmq8s3XFDurn3+Ew= Received: by 10.48.49.1 with SMTP id w1mr897338nfw; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 06:02:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.1.3? ( [80.162.1.238]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id z73sm1561775nfb.2006.03.09.06.02.23; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 06:02:24 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 15:01:32 +0100 Subject: [encore] Cynthia and Jan move to Clemson University From: Cynthia Haynes To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/related; boundary="B_3224761296_9647663" X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1615 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: cynthia.haynes@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cynthia.haynes@gmail.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3224761296_9647663 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3224761296_9670571" --B_3224761296_9670571 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Greetings, It is with great excitement that we share some news with you. Jan Holmevik and I have accepted positions at Clemson University beginning next fall. Jan will be Assistant Professor of Interactive Media, and I will be Director of First-Year Writing and Associate Professor of English. We will both be in the English Department there, teaching in the new Rhetoric, Communication, and Information Design PhD program (RCID), which is under th= e new leadership of Victor Vitanza. We expect to move Lingua MOO to Clemson, though the transition period may require it to be offline for a time, we=B9re not sure yet. This move also has implications for the encore listserv and archives. We think it makes sense for the new enCore Consortium to take over the listserv and house the older list archives, as well as the enCore MOO Portfolio, but we will be in discussions with them about this and help transfer everything over when the time comes. Since the distribution of the new V5 of enCore is now in the capable hands of Daniel Jung at University of Bergen, we will (after our move) shut down the current enCore ftp site at UTD. We will maintain the original enCore website ourselves for historical reasons. We want to thank the University of Texas at Dallas for the past 12 year= s of support of Lingua MOO, enCore, the enCore community, and our research. And we want to thank the enCore Consortium, and all of you, for all your work to move enCore into the future. Best wishes, Cynthia and Jan Cynthia Haynes, Associate Professor _________________ cynthia@itu.dk IT University of Copenhagen Research in Innovative Communication Rued Langgaards Vej 7 (o)+45-72-18-50-34 (f)+45-72-18-50-43 DK-2300 Copenhagen S http://www.itu.dk/people/cynthia --B_3224761296_9670571 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Cynthia and Jan move to Clemson University Greetings,
    It is with great excitement that we share some news= with you. Jan Holmevik and I have accepted positions at Clemson University = beginning next fall. Jan will be Assistant Professor of Interactive Media, a= nd I will be Director of First-Year Writing and Associate Professor of Engli= sh. We will both be in the English Department there, teaching in the new Rhe= toric, Communication, and Information Design PhD program (RCID), which is un= der the new leadership of Victor Vitanza.
    We expect to move Lingua MOO to Clemson, though the= transition period may require it to be offline for a time, we’re not = sure yet. This move also has implications for the encore listserv and archiv= es.  We think it makes sense for the new enCore Consortium to take over= the listserv and house the older list archives, as well as the enCore MOO P= ortfolio, but we will be in discussions with them about this and help transf= er everything over when the time comes. Since the distribution of the new V5= of enCore is now in the capable hands of Daniel Jung at University of Berge= n, we will (after our move) shut down the current enCore ftp site at UTD. We= will maintain the original enCore website ourselves for historical reasons.=
    We want to thank the University of Texas at Dallas = for the past 12 years of support of Lingua MOO, enCore, the enCore community= , and our research. And we want to thank the enCore Consortium, and all of y= ou, for all your work to move enCore into the future.

Best wishes,

Cynthia and Jan

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list encore); Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:54:11 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FACA5CBB for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 13:54:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B730B5871 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 13:54:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09530-01-46 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 13:54:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from noralf.uib.no (noralf.uib.no [129.177.30.12]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D36434F5 for ; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 13:53:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from alfred.uib.no (smtp.uib.no) [129.177.30.120] by noralf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FHRCA-0004Ns-5j; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:53:11 +0100 Received: from 117.84-48-30.nextgentel.com ([10.24.104.19]) [84.48.30.117] by smtp.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FHRC9-0006ED-Rq; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:53:10 +0100 Message-ID: <441087AA.60003@uib.no> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 20:53:14 +0100 From: Daniel Jung User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Cynthia and Jan move to Clemson University References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on noralf X-Scanner: b9f0e0986fcfdc9e023579ec55795ea8 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 0 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER Improper folded header field made up entirely of whitespace in message header 'X-UiB-SpamReport': X-archive-position: 1616 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jung@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jung@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Cynthia Haynes wrote: > Jan > Holmevik and I have accepted positions at Clemson University beginning next > fall. Jan will be Assistant Professor of Interactive Media, and I will be > Director of First-Year Writing and Associate Professor of English. CONGRATULATIONS!!! :) I guess when the two of you begin there and "put Clemson on the map", the site will appear much clearer in Google Earth (see http://lingo.uib.no/daniel/clemson.jpg) :) Good luck :) - Daniel From rozemar@gvsu.edu Thu Mar 16 10:21:09 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:21:09 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C805D8A for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:21:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E393AA5C1 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:21:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12470-01-17 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:21:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from gvsu.edu (gwise-a2.server.gvsu.edu [148.61.5.164]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41F6342E for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:20:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from SMTPDOM-MTA by gvsu.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:20:55 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.5 Beta Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:20:42 -0500 From: "Robert Rozema" To: Subject: [encore] Task Ran Out of Ticks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1617 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: rozemar@gvsu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: rozemar@gvsu.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Okay, I need a little programming advice here. I keep getting a "task ran out of ticks" error when I try to execute a = simple verb I've written. The weird part is that the verb works once in a = while, but aborts most of the time. And here I thought there were plenty of ticks for everyone. =20 Robert Rozema English Dept. Grand Valley State University http://faculty.gvsu.edu/rozemar From jung@uib.no Thu Mar 16 13:42:22 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:42:22 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB875DD7 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:42:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A6DA96E for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:42:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02163-01-68 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:42:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from noralf.uib.no (noralf.uib.no [129.177.30.12]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D726350F for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:40:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from alfred.uib.no (smtp.uib.no) [129.177.30.120] by noralf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FJyKa-0003So-SI; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:40:21 +0100 Received: from 117.84-48-30.nextgentel.com ([10.24.104.19]) [84.48.30.117] by smtp.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FJyKa-0006OP-Hv; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:40:20 +0100 Message-ID: <4419BF27.4090107@uib.no> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:40:23 +0100 From: Daniel Jung User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Task Ran Out of Ticks References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on noralf X-Scanner: 9002fee454eeeb6e9bb22742aac32d70 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 0 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER Improper folded header field made up entirely of whitespace in message header 'X-UiB-SpamReport': X-archive-position: 1618 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jung@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jung@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Robert Rozema wrote: > I keep getting a "task ran out of ticks" error when I try to > execute a simple verb I've written. > The weird part is that the verb works once in a while, > but aborts most of the time. That need not be weird. It depends on many factors. Please post the code. Please describe from where the code is run: is it called (executed) in a chain of verbs? Is it called manually? Who owns the verb (wiz or prog)? Please state the exact Error message. Maybe we can help :) - Daniel From alexborgia@hotmail.com Thu Mar 16 18:17:27 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:17:27 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E415BD0 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:17:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA715F6B for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:17:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04423-01-96 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:17:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from hotmail.com (bay106-f30.bay106.hotmail.com [65.54.161.40]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26EC2CB1 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:17:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:17:24 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 65.54.161.200 by by106fd.bay106.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:17:19 GMT X-Originating-IP: [66.36.157.185] X-Originating-Email: [alexborgia@hotmail.com] X-Sender: alexborgia@hotmail.com From: "Alexandre Borgia" To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Task Ran Out of Ticks Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:17:19 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Mar 2006 00:17:24.0135 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A3EDB70:01C64958] X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1619 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: alexborgia@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: alexborgia@hotmail.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Robert, To prevent abuse of the system (and also manage resources usage), a MOO task (that is, a running process) is limited in the number of instructions (or "ticks") that can be executed without any precautionary measures (the default is around 15 000 if I remember well). Since most tasks are very simple and won't even go near that quota, this is usually not a problem and is a good way to prevent programming mistakes such as infinite loops caused by a bad predicate. If you have a legitimate task that is running out of ticks, you must manage its tick-usage by suspending it from time to time. After being suspended the task will resume with its full tick count. In my opinion, the simplest way to do this (and you'll see this in a lot of MOO code) is to call the following helper function before the blocks of code you know will eventually run out of ticks: $command_utils:suspend_if_needed(0); Simply put, this function first checks if you are nearly out of ticks, and if so will symbolically suspend the task for "0" seconds. This error will usually rise when you are doing repetitive manipulations like scanning through a list of objects. If the list is very small you will have no problem executing the task, but as the list gets larger it will eventually run out of ticks. To prevent this, insert the "suspend_if_needed" line somewhere inside your loop, ex: while (...) $command_utils:suspend_if_needed(0); ' do some interesting stuff endwhile You can take a look at the code listing of "$room:announce" to see an actual usage of this command. Hope this helps! - Alexandre Borgia Robert Rozema wrote: >Okay, I need a little programming advice here. > >I keep getting a "task ran out of ticks" error when I try to execute a >simple verb I've written. The weird part is that the verb works once in a >while, but aborts most of the time. > >And here I thought there were plenty of ticks for everyone. > >Robert Rozema >English Dept. >Grand Valley State University >http://faculty.gvsu.edu/rozemar > > > > > From jung@uib.no Thu Mar 16 18:43:56 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:43:57 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716445BE9 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:43:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA04AE94 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:43:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 06223-01-35 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:43:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from noralf.uib.no (noralf.uib.no [129.177.30.12]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26533435 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:43:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from alfred.uib.no (smtp.uib.no) [129.177.30.120] by noralf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FK34E-0003rj-QZ; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 01:43:47 +0100 Received: from 117.84-48-30.nextgentel.com ([10.24.104.19]) [84.48.30.117] by smtp.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FK34E-0007Ou-IS; Fri, 17 Mar 2006 01:43:46 +0100 Message-ID: <441A0646.3030303@uib.no> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 01:43:50 +0100 From: Daniel Jung User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: encore Subject: [encore] Re: Task Ran Out of Ticks References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on noralf X-Scanner: 35c41fc519f055876b91aef448e498d9 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 0.1 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; 0.1 BODY: hvorfor herfra? X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1620 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jung@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jung@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Robert Rozema wrote: > Here's the verb: OK. Sounds really fun what you have been doing. :) The basic message here is: The verb is never suspended, and there is a lot going on. You should insert a suspend(0); or a $command_utils:suspend_if_needed(0); somewhere, preferrably in each for-clause. Look further down for another suggestion. > 1: player:tell(""); > 2: player:tell(".................................................."); > 3: player:tell("You wave the stick menacingly. Your choices are as follows:"); > 4: all_players = $object_utils:descendants(#1721); These are probably a lot. If you want to restrict them to only those who are connected (something you should do), insert something like this between lines 4 and 5: for p in (all_players) $command_utils:suspend_if_needed(0); if (!(p in connected_players())) all_players = setremove(all_players, p); endif endfor This takes all players, and then removes one by one the ones who aren't connected. > 5: if ($command_utils:yes_or_no("Move all characters to the Village Center?")) > 6: for x in (all_players) insert after line 6: $command_utils:suspend_if_needed(0); > 7: x:moveto(#851); > 8: endfor > 9: player:tell("All characters moved to the Village Center."); > 10: endif > 11: if ($command_utils:yes_or_no("Move all characters to their homes?")) > 12: for x in (all_players) insert after line 12: $command_utils:suspend_if_needed(0); > 13: x:moveto(x.home); > 14: endfor > 15: player:tell("All characters moved to their homes."); > 16: endif > 17: all_africans = $object_utils:descendants(#1722); Same as for all_players: You may want to restrict this to the connected ones. > 18: if ($command_utils:yes_or_no("Move all traditional Africans to the Meeting Room?")) > 19: for x in (all_africans) insert after line 19: $command_utils:suspend_if_needed(0); > 20: x:moveto(#875); > 21: endfor > 22: player:tell("Traditional Africans moved to the Meeting Room."); > 23: endif > 24: all_british = $object_utils:descendants(#1723); Same as for all_players: You may want to restrict this to the connected ones. > 25: if ($command_utils:yes_or_no("Move all British sympathizers to the Mission?")) > 26: for x in (all_british) insert after line 26: $command_utils:suspend_if_needed(0); > 27: x:moveto(#863); > 28: endfor > 29: player:tell("British sympathizers moved to the Meeting Room."); > 30: endif ERROR > #99:look_self (this == #851), line 36: Task ran out of ticks This is a generic classroom. If you take a look at its code (look_self), you will notice that there are a lot of for-clauses which are not suspended. They should have been; since they are not, the whole stack of verbs runs out of quota if the previous verbs in the stack haven't been suspended. Note that line 36 in that verb is the first statement in a for clause. > ... called from #3:enterfunc (this == #851), line 4 > ... called from #99:enterfunc (this == #851), line 2 > ... called from built-in function move() > ... called from #1:moveto (this == #1163), line 2 > ... called from #6:moveto (this == #1163), line 6 > ... called from #1710:shake, line 7 Suggestion 1: If you want to make the compiling of the tribes/classes dependent on connection, you could write something like this: 1: all_players = all_africans = all_british = {}; 2: for c in (connected_players()) 3: if ($object_utils:isa(c, #1721)) 4: all_players = {@all_players, c}; 5: elseif ($object_utils:isa(c, #1722)) 6: all_africans = {@all_africans, c}; 7: elseif ($object_utils:isa(c, #1723)) 8: all_british = {@all_british, c}; 9: endif 10: endfor Unless, of course, #1721 is the parent object for #1722 and #1723, in which case you should write 1: all_players = all_africans = all_british = {}; 2: for c in (connected_players()) 3: if ($object_utils:isa(c, #1721)) 4: all_players = {@all_players, c}; 5: if ($object_utils:isa(c, #1722)) 6: all_africans = {@all_africans, c}; 7: elseif ($object_utils:isa(c, #1723)) 8: all_british = {@all_british, c}; 9: endif 10: endif 11: endfor As you see, it is the other way round; we are not compileing and then removing from the compilation, but we are only adding. Suggestion 2: At a closer look, you ask the player if something should be done to a compiled class of players. If the answer is no, this compiled class is not used. This is not efficient. It would make sense to only compile the class IF it is going to be used. So instead of all_africans = $object_utils:descendants(#1722); if ($command_utils:yes_or_no("Move all Africans?")) "do something to all_africans"; endif you should consider writing if ($command_utils:yes_or_no("Move all Africans?")) all_africans = $object_utils:descendants(#1722); "perhaps refine/restrict this class"; "do something to all_africans"; endif HTH - Daniel From joseph.p.haughey@wmich.edu Thu Mar 23 07:33:36 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 23 Mar 2006 07:33:36 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087655BCC for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 07:33:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BED5FA47E for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 07:33:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19611-01-5 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 07:33:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx.wmich.edu (mx-tmp.wmich.edu [141.218.1.43]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF453384 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 07:33:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from salk.admin.private (avs02.service.private [172.30.31.162]) by mta02.service.private (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.13 (built Jun 8 2005)) with SMTP id <0IWL00I081KN99A0@mta02.service.private> for encore@utdallas.edu; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:33:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mta-avs03.service.private ([172.30.30.163]) by salk.admin.private with SMTP id M2006032308333320481 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:33:33 -0500 Received: from wmich.edu (ms01.trusted.private [172.30.20.70]) by mta03.service.private (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.13 (built Jun 8 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IWL005TF1NXDZ00@mta03.service.private> for encore@utdallas.edu; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:33:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from [172.30.20.130] (Forwarded-For: [141.218.128.218]) by ms01.trusted.private (mshttpd); Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:33:33 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:33:33 -0500 From: Joseph P Haughey Subject: [encore] making players appear invisible To: encore@utdallas.edu Message-id: <7cacd18920c5a.44225d5d@wmich.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.1 HotFix 0.13 (built Jun 8 2005) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1621 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: joseph.p.haughey@wmich.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: joseph.p.haughey@wmich.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore I am working with a group of undergrad students in my Shakespeare class on creating a virtual world based on The Tempest, and we would like to find a way to make some of the players in role-playing game have the ability to become invisible to other players, so that they can wander from room to room undetected and be able to "do" things to other characters. (Essentially, we want fairies - namely Ariel to be able to do this.) I am trying to figure out how to write a verb on this character so that they could simply type "invisible" to turn the feature on and off, but am really unsure of how to go about this - I am still very much learning programming. Anybody out there have any ideas on how to do this? Thanks, Joseph Haughey ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Jung Date: Thursday, March 16, 2006 2:40 pm Subject: [encore] Re: Task Ran Out of Ticks > Robert Rozema wrote: > > I keep getting a "task ran out of ticks" error when I try to > > execute a simple verb I've written. > > The weird part is that the verb works once in a while, > > but aborts most of the time. > > That need not be weird. It depends on many factors. > > Please post the code. Please describe from where the code is run: > is it > called (executed) in a chain of verbs? Is it called manually? Who > owns > the verb (wiz or prog)? Please state the exact Error message. > > Maybe we can help :) > > - Daniel > > > > From kevijeps@telusplanet.net Fri Mar 24 19:30:01 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:30:01 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29CF45BAD for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:30:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE99AB01A for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:30:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12215-01-66 for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:29:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (outbound04.telus.net [199.185.220.223]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9196C343E for ; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:29:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from lilith ([66.222.244.176]) by priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with ESMTP id <20060325012953.LBIJ27967.priv-edtnes27.telusplanet.net@lilith>; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:29:53 -0700 From: "Kevin Jepson" To: , Subject: [encore] Re: making players appear invisible Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:29:58 -0700 Message-ID: <000c01c64fab$a30a9720$650119ac@lilith> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7cacd18920c5a.44225d5d@wmich.edu> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1622 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: kevijeps@telusplanet.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: kevijeps@telusplanet.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Joseph I hope you have received some suggestions that can help. As with any kind of program that changes the default behaviour of the system, like displaying a description of objects in a room for example, = it helps to be able to find out how the default effect is achieved. Once = you know that you can augment or change the default behaviour by adding a = verb to the minimum number of objects. In this case the best approach would probably be to change the verb in = the rooms that displays contents.=20 On my version 4 EnCore MOO that verb is the :tell_contents verb on the $Generic Room. If you modified this verb to hide any player with a enabled invisible property then players in the room would not see them by doing a look. = If the player knew the invisible user was present they could still be able = to look at them directly so you would also have to change the look_self = verb on the faerie player as well. That could be something as simple as referencing a different description when the invisible property was set. Something like "you see a slight movement out of the corner of your eye" type thing. I hope that helps. Ciao KJ -----Original Message----- From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] On Behalf Of Joseph P Haughey Sent: March 23, 2006 6:34 AM To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] making players appear invisible I am working with a group of undergrad students in my Shakespeare class = on creating a virtual world based on The Tempest, and we would like to find = a way to make some of the players in role-playing game have the ability to become invisible to other players, so that they can wander from room to = room undetected and be able to "do" things to other characters. = (Essentially, we want fairies - namely Ariel to be able to do this.) I am trying to figure out how to write a verb on this character so that = they could simply type "invisible" to turn the feature on and off, but am = really unsure of how to go about this - I am still very much learning = programming. Anybody out there have any ideas on how to do this? Thanks, Joseph Haughey ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Jung Date: Thursday, March 16, 2006 2:40 pm Subject: [encore] Re: Task Ran Out of Ticks > Robert Rozema wrote: > > I keep getting a "task ran out of ticks" error when I try to > > execute a simple verb I've written. =20 > > The weird part is that the verb works once in a while,=20 > > but aborts most of the time. >=20 > That need not be weird. It depends on many factors. >=20 > Please post the code. Please describe from where the code is run: > is it=20 > called (executed) in a chain of verbs? Is it called manually? Who=20 > owns=20 > the verb (wiz or prog)? Please state the exact Error message. >=20 > Maybe we can help :) >=20 > - Daniel >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.6/287 - Release Date: = 21/03/2006 =20 --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.1/291 - Release Date: = 24/03/2006 =20 From djh@dmu.ac.uk Mon Mar 27 02:40:56 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:40:57 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA7965BB0 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:40:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6845125B4 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:40:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03355-02-15 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:40:52 -0600 (CST) X-Greylist: delayed 1902 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at mx2; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:40:20 CST Received: from mail2.dmu.ac.uk (mail2.dmu.ac.uk [146.227.160.29]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1302B345B for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:40:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.dmu.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282AD7DC9EB for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:08:37 +0100 (BST) Received: from vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk (loadbalancer.dmu.ac.uk [146.227.160.248]) by mail2.dmu.ac.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD9D7DC99F for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:07:56 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (djh@localhost) by vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id k2R7svaI024454 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:54:57 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk: djh owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:54:56 +0100 (BST) From: David James Houghton X-X-Sender: djh@vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Disappearing cursor Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by Copperfasten Mail Firewall at dmu.ac.uk X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1623 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: djh@dmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: djh@dmu.ac.uk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi, I'm having a problem when viewing the Moo using the latest version of Firefox 1.5.0.1 on the Mac . When I click the 'Who' button and launch the 'popup' window then close it again, my cursor in the bottom left hand panel disappears and wont come back. Any ideas? regards From cynthia.haynes@gmail.com Mon Mar 27 03:05:17 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:05:17 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7015C5BB0 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:05:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 366535210 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:05:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 06349-01-3 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:05:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.186]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED390343E for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:05:14 -0600 (CST) Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id n29so789214nfc for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 01:05:14 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:user-agent:date:subject:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type; b=Px/GfD2pJ50xvjn2WGDRo/9zNHdYHlHWU5r9m3o9xPEzx4MAYRP+fuy2dDVNfRB/JlKKBrH2crcB6n3XVhrU4o+A3xLnT0eEITS6pYsrwNU38ISh3PXNXiRmCRD1UvJid9Tb01T+QkBFMGOCFWD+hq1Y+jYm/0MIFojY/VIamOA= Received: by 10.48.217.10 with SMTP id p10mr1633449nfg; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 01:04:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?10.0.1.3? ( [80.162.1.238]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q27sm562161nfc.2006.03.27.01.04.41; Mon, 27 Mar 2006 01:04:41 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:03:51 +0200 Subject: [encore] Re: Disappearing cursor From: Cynthia Haynes To: , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/related; boundary="B_3226302236_1318581" X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.559 tagged_above=1 required=8 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_20=1.157, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=5] X-Spam-Score: 3.559 X-Spam-Level: *** X-archive-position: 1624 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: cynthia.haynes@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cynthia.haynes@gmail.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3226302236_1318581 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3226302236_1315923" --B_3226302236_1315923 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit David, I had the same problem, so I just switched to using Safari to access the MOO. Best, Cynthia Cynthia Haynes, Associate Professor _________________ cynthia@itu.dk IT University of Copenhagen Research in Innovative Communication Rued Langgaards Vej 7 (o)+45-72-18-50-34 (f)+45-72-18-50-43 DK-2300 Copenhagen S http://www.itu.dk/people/cynthia --B_3226302236_1315923 Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: [encore] Disappearing cursor David,
    I had the same problem, so I just switched to using= Safari to access the MOO.

Best,

Cynthia

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list encore); Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:38:53 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765A85BBE for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:38:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F565B0F for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:38:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18217-01-41 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:38:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from he200war.uk.vianw.net (he200war.uk.vianw.net [195.102.244.148]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7203A3484 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:38:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from [195.102.153.3] (helo=nccexch001.nccedu.com) by he200war.uk.vianw.net with esmtp (Exim 4.04) id 1FOGH8-0000HT-00 for encore@utdallas.edu; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:38:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6527D.D0B5E3EE" Subject: [encore] A generic external website object? Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:39:34 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Matthew Coupe" To: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1625 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Matthew.Coupe@nccedu.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Matthew.Coupe@nccedu.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6527D.D0B5E3EE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone, =20 I am trying to make an object that displays an external html webpage from within the right frame of the Xpress. A bit like the web projector does but without having to type 'display 1 on ....' Etc. So basically, all you have to do is click on the object and up pops an external website nicely in your Xpress. I feel as though I'm being stupid and it's really obvious but I just can't quite figure out how to do it! =20 Thanks for any help that comes my way! =20 Matthew ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6527D.D0B5E3EE Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi everyone,

 

I am trying to make an object that displays = an external html webpage from within the right frame of the Xpress. A bit like the = web projector does but without having to type ‘display 1 on = ….’ Etc. So basically, all you have to do is click on the object and up pops an = external website nicely in your Xpress. I feel as though I’m being stupid = and it’s really obvious but I just can’t quite figure out how to do = it!

 

Thanks for any help that comes my = way!

 

Matthew

------_=_NextPart_001_01C6527D.D0B5E3EE-- From jung@uib.no Tue Mar 28 10:39:55 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:39:55 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17C45BBE for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:39:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A32842ABA for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:39:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25358-01-31 for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:39:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from noralf.uib.no (noralf.uib.no [129.177.30.12]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD836343E for ; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:38:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from alfred.uib.no (smtp.uib.no) [129.177.30.120] by noralf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FOHDN-00056M-Rp; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:38:42 +0200 Received: from 117.84-48-30.nextgentel.com ([10.24.104.19]) [84.48.30.117] by smtp.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FOHDN-0006Ui-Jp; Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:38:41 +0200 Message-ID: <44296691.3030609@uib.no> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:38:41 +0200 From: Daniel Jung User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: A generic external website object? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on noralf X-Scanner: 31c8357644262e0b1880c5f56d26d22d http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 0 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER Improper folded header field made up entirely of whitespace in message header 'X-UiB-SpamReport': X-archive-position: 1626 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jung@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jung@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Matthew Coupe wrote: > I am trying to make an object that displays an external html webpage > from within the right frame of the Xpress. A bit like the web projector > does but without having to type 'display 1 on ....' Etc. So basically, > all you have to do is click on the object and up pops an external > website nicely in your Xpress. I feel as though I'm being stupid and > it's really obvious but I just can't quite figure out how to do it! Barbara has requested exactly the same thing for v5, and it is going to be part of it. You can have a go yourself: 1 - create an object (preferably child of $note or $thing) 2 - corify it, fertilize it 3 - choose a identifiable .icon for it 4 - create a :_html verb on it 5 - Make that verb return the object.description, like this: 1: return this.description; 6 - create a child 7 - Put the html source code (all of it!) into the child's description Steps 1 through 3 are optional, of course, but recommended. That should work. If the _html verb returns something with X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AEED5BBB for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 08:18:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA444870 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 08:18:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07460-01-34 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 08:18:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from he201war.uk.vianw.net (he201war.uk.vianw.net [195.102.244.149]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3D503384 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 08:18:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from [195.102.153.3] (helo=nccexch001.nccedu.com) by he201war.uk.vianw.net with esmtp (Exim 4.04) id 1FObVQ-00033u-00 for encore@utdallas.edu; Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:18:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [encore] Re: A generic external website object? Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:19:44 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Matthew Coupe" To: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1627 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Matthew.Coupe@nccedu.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Matthew.Coupe@nccedu.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Daniel, Thanks for the help. I made the object and it's working nicely. Just have to drop the HTML code into the description and it fires open the html when you click on it. What I really want to be able to do though is to put a URL into the description and have the object display the website when I click on it. I've started playing around with a web projector, using various verbs on it but I've still not quite got it right. Any ideas? Hmmm Matthew -----Original Message----- From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Jung Sent: 28 March 2006 17:39 To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: A generic external website object? Hi Matthew Coupe wrote: > I am trying to make an object that displays an external html webpage > from within the right frame of the Xpress. A bit like the web projector > does but without having to type 'display 1 on ....' Etc. So basically, > all you have to do is click on the object and up pops an external > website nicely in your Xpress. I feel as though I'm being stupid and > it's really obvious but I just can't quite figure out how to do it! Barbara has requested exactly the same thing for v5, and it is going to=20 be part of it. You can have a go yourself: 1 - create an object (preferably child of $note or $thing) 2 - corify it, fertilize it 3 - choose a identifiable .icon for it 4 - create a :_html verb on it 5 - Make that verb return the object.description, like this: 1: return this.description; 6 - create a child 7 - Put the html source code (all of it!) into the child's description Steps 1 through 3 are optional, of course, but recommended. That should work. If the _html verb returns something with X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F995BB3 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:16:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3914A258 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:16:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29350-01-19 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:16:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from deliverator7.gatech.edu (deliverator7.gatech.edu [130.207.165.169]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADCE0345D for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:16:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from hormel1.gatech.edu (hormel1.prism.gatech.edu [130.207.171.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (Client CN "hormel1.prism.gatech.edu", Issuer "Georgia Tech Internal CA" (not verified)) by deliverator7.gatech.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 199CB223A for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 06:16:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ron.broglio@lcc.gatech.edu) Received: from ([130.207.171.122]) by hormel1.gatech.edu with ESMTP with TLS id KP-BRAPX.49049107; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 06:15:47 -0500 Received: from deliverator2.gatech.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF07A498 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 06:15:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ron.broglio@lcc.gatech.edu) Received: from mailprx1.gatech.edu (mailprx1.prism.gatech.edu [130.207.171.15]) (using TLSv1 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168/168 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.mail.gatech.edu", Issuer "RSA Data Security? Inc." (verified OK)) by deliverator2.gatech.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 740F6A48C for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 06:15:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ron.broglio@lcc.gatech.edu) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (71-81-19-68.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com [71.81.19.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (sasl: method=PLAIN, username=rb236@mailprx1.gatech.edu, sender=n/a) by mailprx1.gatech.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3D922A5 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 06:15:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ron.broglio@lcc.gatech.edu) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: encore From: Ron Broglio Subject: [encore] problem creating objects Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 06:15:44 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1628 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: ron.broglio@lcc.gatech.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: ron.broglio@lcc.gatech.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi folks, Seems there is a problem in a moo I am managing and I can't figure out what happened. Here is how one of the teachers describes the problem: "My students are complaining that since the last restart of the MOO they haven't been able to save the objects that they are making, though all of the objects that they made before the restart are still there." Any ideas? Many thanks. Ron From jung@uib.no Fri Mar 31 06:16:29 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 31 Mar 2006 06:16:29 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu