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I'm needing to figure out a way to integrate an equation text editor into the Harvest MOO.  Specifically, I need to be able to create notes and objects that have equations for Math tutorials.  
   
  I thought I could simple cut and paste from a word document that has an equation text editor...but the formatting is always lost.
   
  Ideas appreciated.
  Christine Hilger
  Eastfield College

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This one is driving me nuts.

Basically, I have created a subset of characters who have the limited =
capabilities of guests (I made the characters and then @chparent to#31)  =
but are not for general use.  The problem is that players meaning to login =
as guests are showing up as these restricted characters. =20

On the parent of the character subset (#788), I changed the free_to_use =
property to 1, which should technically make them unavailable. =20

Then I found out that #31:do_reset verb automatically switches the =
property back to "1" (on/available) when the guest  logs out.  So I copied =
the verb to my parent character (#788) and sneakily switched the verb to =
turn them "off" when the character logs out.  This seemed to work.

But there is some internal process that keeps turning all guests back "on" =
periodically--overnight, while I'm sleeping.  I'm not sure how to find =
this verb and am not sure I have to.

My instinct is to set the permission on the #788.free_to_use property to =
make it impossible for whatever internal process to reset the property.  I =
have fiddled with the "c" permission bit on the property but don't get how =
this works.

Any help would be appreciated.  Hope this long-winded explanation makes =
some sense to someone out there.

Robert Rozema
English Dept.
Grand Valley State University
http://faculty.gvsu.edu/rozemar


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Hi Everyone,

As you may know, I am helping to host a conference in an enCore 
learning environment this month (TTU English MOO).  In preparation, I 
have a couple of things I need some help with:

1) Set up WebNote capability

Alex Borgia about four years ago helped me adjust the $webpage so 
that a Note could display HTML code.  I had this object in AlaMOO and 
have carried over this capability into NouSpace, but I can't seem to 
replicate it in TTU English MOO.

If anyone could help me adjust this code, I would be most grateful. 
(Lennie looks searchingly for Alex...)

In the past, I created a $thing and simply @chparent it to $webpage, 
but some extra adjustment is needed because it doesn't work in TTU MOO.

2) Adjust how Links display in Webpage Rooms.
For some reason, in TTU English MOO, the "Links:" section displays 
too far to the left, close to "You See:"  I need to move this list of 
exits over to the right a bit.  I have no idea how to get into how 
this material displays in the bottom half of the viewing panel.

This conference should provide good exposure for enCore.  I encourage 
you to come for the Symposium on Feb 18th to check out how enCore 
handles a conference of 100+ people. (Let's hope the lag doesn't get 
too bad...).

http://english.ttu.edu/cw/CWO2006/

Thanks for any help you can give me on these two items.

Yours,

Lennie



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Lennie
WRT to exits in the Webpage Rooms...
I just tried this in my MOO and got the same thing!
It looks like the _html verb on $webpage is different than the one on =
$room.
There is something different in the formatting.
I quickly tried replacing the _html verb on a test Webpage room with the =
one
from $room and then added the direct input of the description.  When I
displayed the room I get the exits listed BELOW the contents so =
something is
still goofy.
Perhaps a MOO code Wizard like Daniel or Alex might have a better idea
what's happening.
Ciao
KJ

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Hi Everyone,

As you may know, I am helping to host a conference in an enCore=20
learning environment this month (TTU English MOO).  In preparation, I=20
have a couple of things I need some help with:

1) Set up WebNote capability

Alex Borgia about four years ago helped me adjust the $webpage so=20
that a Note could display HTML code.  I had this object in AlaMOO and=20
have carried over this capability into NouSpace, but I can't seem to=20
replicate it in TTU English MOO.

If anyone could help me adjust this code, I would be most grateful.=20
(Lennie looks searchingly for Alex...)

In the past, I created a $thing and simply @chparent it to $webpage,=20
but some extra adjustment is needed because it doesn't work in TTU MOO.

2) Adjust how Links display in Webpage Rooms.
For some reason, in TTU English MOO, the "Links:" section displays=20
too far to the left, close to "You See:"  I need to move this list of=20
exits over to the right a bit.  I have no idea how to get into how=20
this material displays in the bottom half of the viewing panel.

This conference should provide good exposure for enCore.  I encourage=20
you to come for the Symposium on Feb 18th to check out how enCore=20
handles a conference of 100+ people. (Let's hope the lag doesn't get=20
too bad...).

http://english.ttu.edu/cw/CWO2006/

Thanks for any help you can give me on these two items.

Yours,

Lennie



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Hi Alex,

I'm glad you are still kicking!!!

I think there was a shift from v3 to v4 that might have affected 
things, but when I moved from AlaMOO (v3) to Nouspace (v4) I 
implemented a small bit of code you had helped generate to adjust the 
$webnote, so I have a $webnote that works in Nouspace in v4.  My 
problem is getting it to work in TTU English MOO.

Originally, it was a fairly simple trick to make a $webnote

1) @create $thing Webnote
2) @chparent Webnote to $webpage

You then had a "think" that could be placed inside rooms but still 
display HTML code.

Perhaps this approach is backwards and the _HTML for the description 
is all that needs to be added to the $thing (rather than using the 
$webpage room as the parent).

Anyway, when I attempt to make a $webnote in Nouspace, it displays as 
an object in a room, but it functions as a room (with no exits--you 
open the note and you are stuck inside it and have to @go to get out).

I'm not sure I have any code I can send your way, but I'd be happy to 
grant you access to TTU MOO or Nouspace to look around.

I really appreciate your help Alex!

Note to you and Kevin on the display problem in the bottom of $webpages

Alex--The problem seems to only be in $webpage rooms.
Daniel believes it is a simple CSS problem and will help offer a fix.

Lennie

At 12:04 PM 2/5/2006, you wrote:
>Hi Lennie,
>
>    Yes, I'm still alive, and I'd gladly help if I can :)  First do you
>know if there is a version difference between TTU English MOO and the
>two other MOOs where the WebNote works, for instance, is it the first
>time you try to port the thing to encore v4?  Also, what is the exact
>behavior of the note - is the text badly formatted, does it gives
>errors, or simply displays nothing at all etc?
>
>    If you can send me all the steps you use to create this note object
>(along with the code) I'll take a look into it.
>
>    By the way, I checked your second point by logging on TTU as a guest
>and saw no alignment problem with either Firefox 1.5 or IE 6.0.  Has it
>already been fixed?
>
>
>    - Alexandre Borgia
>
>
>Lennie Irvin wrote:
>>Hi Everyone,
>>
>>As you may know, I am helping to host a conference in an enCore 
>>learning environment this month (TTU English MOO).  In preparation, 
>>I have a couple of things I need some help with:
>>
>>1) Set up WebNote capability
>>
>>Alex Borgia about four years ago helped me adjust the $webpage so 
>>that a Note could display HTML code.  I had this object in AlaMOO 
>>and have carried over this capability into NouSpace, but I can't 
>>seem to replicate it in TTU English MOO.
>>
>>If anyone could help me adjust this code, I would be most grateful. 
>>(Lennie looks searchingly for Alex...)
>>
>>In the past, I created a $thing and simply @chparent it to 
>>$webpage, but some extra adjustment is needed because it doesn't 
>>work in TTU MOO.
>>
>>2) Adjust how Links display in Webpage Rooms.
>>For some reason, in TTU English MOO, the "Links:" section displays 
>>too far to the left, close to "You See:"  I need to move this list 
>>of exits over to the right a bit.  I have no idea how to get into 
>>how this material displays in the bottom half of the viewing panel.
>>
>>This conference should provide good exposure for enCore.  I 
>>encourage you to come for the Symposium on Feb 18th to check out 
>>how enCore handles a conference of 100  people. (Let's hope the lag 
>>doesn't get too bad...).
>>
>>http://english.ttu.edu/cw/CWO2006/
>>
>>Thanks for any help you can give me on these two items.
>>
>>Yours,
>>
>>Lennie
>
>



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Hi Everyone,

I am taking a grad class in Grant Writing with a goal to write a grant 
to provide funds for enCore development.  Initially, I had in mind a 
large National Endowment for the Humanities Grant that might provide 
$200,000, and I may still try to put that grant together (due in 
October), but I have decided that I want to focus on a smaller grant 
that might benefit a local site's activities. 

Do you have a grant you know of that would offer funds to support your 
site's activities? Let me write it for you (or with you).

I'm thinking something along the lines of a grant Jeffrey Schneider 
recently received for his German language enCore site at Vassar 
College.  It funds a programming workshop and some training and support 
for teachers. 

I'm looking for a specific target grant that will support new or 
continued activities.  If you have one in mind (but haven't had time to 
put together a grant application), I would be interested in working with 
you to get this grant done. 

This grant don't have to be huge and could even be the kind of 
"innovation grants" offered at some institutions internally. 

Let me know if you are interested.

Lennie

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Hello everyone!  I'm pretty new to this, so I'm still playing around and
trying to figure out a lot.

One thing I'm having a problem with though is locking rooms.  I give the
command

room.free_entry to 0

and it gives the response

-> 0

which I assume means that it set it to zero.  But it still lets people
teleport into the room, and when I go back to check what the entry for the
room is set to, it tells me 1!


Also, when I try to lock the entrances, I give the command

@lock room with me

This time it doesn't let others use the entrance if they use the text
command.  But, it will let anyone go in if they click the express link
(which most of our students do).



Does anyone have an idea as to what I'm doing wrong here?

Thanks,

Karen

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<div>Hello everyone!&nbsp; I'm pretty new to this, so I'm still playing aro=
und and trying to figure out a lot.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>One thing I'm having a problem with though is locking rooms.&nbsp; I g=
ive the command </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>room.free_entry to 0</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>and it gives the response </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>-&gt; 0</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>which I assume means that it set it to zero.&nbsp; But it still lets p=
eople teleport into the room, and when I go back to check what&nbsp;the ent=
ry for the room&nbsp;is set to, it tells me 1!</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Also, when I try to lock the entrances, I give the command</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>@lock room with me</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>This time it doesn't let others use the entrance if they use the text =
command.&nbsp; But, it will let anyone&nbsp;go in&nbsp;if they click the ex=
press link (which most of our students do).</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Does anyone have an idea as to what I'm doing wrong here?</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div><br>Karen</div>

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<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
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<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
Karen Campbell wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite"
 cite="mid66b6b5140602090705v4fd1da7sd482cd3893951868@mail.gmail.com">
  <div>&nbsp;</div>
  <div>One thing I'm having a problem with though is locking rooms.&nbsp; I
give the command </div>
  <div>&nbsp;</div>
  <div>room.free_entry to 0</div>
  <div>&nbsp;</div>
  <div>and it gives the response </div>
  <div>&nbsp;</div>
  <div>-&gt; 0</div>
  <div>&nbsp;</div>
  <div>which I assume means that it set it to zero.&nbsp; But it still lets
people teleport into the room, and when I go back to check what&nbsp;the
entry for the room&nbsp;is set to, it tells me 1!</div>
</blockquote>
Try this command:&nbsp; go to the room where you want to prohibit
teleporting.&nbsp; Type <b>@set here.free_entry to 0</b>. You should then
get the message Property set to 0.&nbsp; You can check by typing <b>@d
here.free_entry.</b> This should confirm that the prop has indeed been
changed.&nbsp; I tried this in VRoma, and it did prohibit everybody but the
room's owner or a wizard from teleporting into the room, though people
could still enter by "walking" in through text commands or webexits.<br>
<blockquote type="cite"
 cite="mid66b6b5140602090705v4fd1da7sd482cd3893951868@mail.gmail.com">
  <div>&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
  <div>Also, when I try to lock the entrances, I give the command</div>
  <div>&nbsp;</div>
  <div>@lock room with me</div>
  <div>&nbsp;</div>
  <div>This time it doesn't let others use the entrance if they use the
text command.&nbsp; But, it will let anyone&nbsp;go in&nbsp;if they click the express
link (which most of our students do).</div>
  <div>&nbsp;</div>
</blockquote>
I had this same problem a while back and got the following explanation
and fix from Alexandre Borgia.&nbsp; I followed this procedure exactly in
VRoma, and @lock now works for the webexits as well as the text
commands.&nbsp; Good luck!&nbsp; Barbara<br>
<br>
Alexandre Borgia wrote:<br>
<br>
<pre wrap="">    Exits are actually bypassed by the web interface; they have been
replaced with clickable hyperlinks that point directly to their
destination - and although this is a very convenient and intuitive way to
move around the MOO I agree there is not much interaction left with them.

    I found an easy way to put back exits to their right place in the player
moving sequence which will consider @locks and such.  Basically what I did
is make the hyperlinks point to the actual exits so they can generate their
own webpage that uses old verification mechanisms before moving the player.


Here it goes:
=========================================
Step 1)

In $encore_web_utils:generate_links, replace:

 11:     if ($object_utils:isa(object, $exit) &amp;&amp; (!use_exit_name))
 12:       linkname = object.dest.name;
 13:       link = tonum(object.dest);

With:

    if ($object_utils:isa(object, $exit))
      linkname = use_exit_name ? object.name | object.dest.name;
      link = tonum(object);


Step 2)

Create the following verb:

  @verb $exit:_html this none this rdx

And program it as follow:

------------------------
user = args[1];
if (user.location == this.source)
  this:move(user);
  if (user.location == this.dest)
    return {"&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;"};
  else
    return user.location:_html(user);
  endif
endif
return pass(user);
------------------------
=========================================</pre>
<br>
</body>
</html>



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Barbara
Thanks so much for sharing that fix!
I will be making use of this ASAP.
Ciao
KJ

-----Original Message-----
From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] On
Behalf Of Barbara F. McManus
Sent: February 9, 2006 9:52 AM
To: encore@utdallas.edu
Subject: [encore] Re: Problem with locking rooms


Karen Campbell wrote:


=20
One thing I'm having a problem with though is locking rooms.  I give the
command=20
=20
room.free_entry to 0
=20
and it gives the response=20
=20
-> 0
=20
which I assume means that it set it to zero.  But it still lets people
teleport into the room, and when I go back to check what the entry for =
the
room is set to, it tells me 1!

Try this command:  go to the room where you want to prohibit =
teleporting.
Type @set here.free_entry to 0. You should then get the message Property =
set
to 0.  You can check by typing @d here.free_entry. This should confirm =
that
the prop has indeed been changed.  I tried this in VRoma, and it did
prohibit everybody but the room's owner or a wizard from teleporting =
into
the room, though people could still enter by "walking" in through text
commands or webexits.


 =20
Also, when I try to lock the entrances, I give the command
=20
@lock room with me
=20
This time it doesn't let others use the entrance if they use the text
command.  But, it will let anyone go in if they click the express link
(which most of our students do).
=20

I had this same problem a while back and got the following explanation =
and
fix from Alexandre Borgia.  I followed this procedure exactly in VRoma, =
and
@lock now works for the webexits as well as the text commands.  Good =
luck!
Barbara

Alexandre Borgia wrote:


    Exits are actually bypassed by the web interface; they have been

replaced with clickable hyperlinks that point directly to their

destination - and although this is a very convenient and intuitive way =
to

move around the MOO I agree there is not much interaction left with =
them.



    I found an easy way to put back exits to their right place in the =
player

moving sequence which will consider @locks and such.  Basically what I =
did

is make the hyperlinks point to the actual exits so they can generate =
their

own webpage that uses old verification mechanisms before moving the =
player.





Here it goes:

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Step 1)



In $encore_web_utils:generate_links, replace:



 11:     if ($object_utils:isa(object, $exit) && (!use_exit_name))

 12:       linkname =3D object.dest.name;

 13:       link =3D tonum(object.dest);



With:



    if ($object_utils:isa(object, $exit))

      linkname =3D use_exit_name ? object.name | object.dest.name;

      link =3D tonum(object);





Step 2)



Create the following verb:



  @verb $exit:_html this none this rdx



And program it as follow:



------------------------

user =3D args[1];

if (user.location =3D=3D this.source)

  this:move(user);

  if (user.location =3D=3D this.dest)

    return {"<html><head></head><body></body></html>"};

  else

    return user.location:_html(user);

  endif

endif

return pass(user);

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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D



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<TITLE>Message</TITLE>

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<BODY text=3D#000000 bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D676031223-09022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>Barbara</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D676031223-09022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Thanks=20
so much for sharing that fix!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D676031223-09022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>I will=20
be making use of&nbsp;this ASAP.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D676031223-09022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>Ciao</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D676031223-09022006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =

size=3D2>KJ</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr =
align=3Dleft><FONT=20
  face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
  encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] <B>On =
Behalf Of=20
  </B>Barbara F. McManus<BR><B>Sent:</B> February 9, 2006 9:52 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  encore@utdallas.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> [encore] Re: Problem with =
locking=20
  rooms<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Karen Campbell wrote:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE =
cite=3Dmid66b6b5140602090705v4fd1da7sd482cd3893951868@mail.gmail.com=20
  type=3D"cite">
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>One thing I'm having a problem with though is locking =
rooms.&nbsp; I=20
    give the command </DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>room.free_entry to 0</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>and it gives the response </DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>-&gt; 0</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>which I assume means that it set it to zero.&nbsp; But it still =
lets=20
    people teleport into the room, and when I go back to check =
what&nbsp;the=20
    entry for the room&nbsp;is set to, it tells me =
1!</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>Try this=20
  command:&nbsp; go to the room where you want to prohibit =
teleporting.&nbsp;=20
  Type <B>@set here.free_entry to 0</B>. You should then get the message =

  Property set to 0.&nbsp; You can check by typing <B>@d =
here.free_entry.</B>=20
  This should confirm that the prop has indeed been changed.&nbsp; I =
tried this=20
  in VRoma, and it did prohibit everybody but the room's owner or a =
wizard from=20
  teleporting into the room, though people could still enter by =
"walking" in=20
  through text commands or webexits.<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE =
cite=3Dmid66b6b5140602090705v4fd1da7sd482cd3893951868@mail.gmail.com=20
  type=3D"cite">
    <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Also, when I try to lock the entrances, I give the =
command</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>@lock room with me</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>This time it doesn't let others use the entrance if they use =
the text=20
    command.&nbsp; But, it will let anyone&nbsp;go in&nbsp;if they click =
the=20
    express link (which most of our students do).</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>I had this same problem a while back =
and got the=20
  following explanation and fix from Alexandre Borgia.&nbsp; I followed =
this=20
  procedure exactly in VRoma, and @lock now works for the webexits as =
well as=20
  the text commands.&nbsp; Good luck!&nbsp; Barbara<BR><BR>Alexandre =
Borgia=20
  wrote:<BR><BR><PRE wrap=3D"">    Exits are actually bypassed by the =
web interface; they have been
replaced with clickable hyperlinks that point directly to their
destination - and although this is a very convenient and intuitive way =
to
move around the MOO I agree there is not much interaction left with =
them.

    I found an easy way to put back exits to their right place in the =
player
moving sequence which will consider @locks and such.  Basically what I =
did
is make the hyperlinks point to the actual exits so they can generate =
their
own webpage that uses old verification mechanisms before moving the =
player.


Here it goes:
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Step 1)

In $encore_web_utils:generate_links, replace:

 11:     if ($object_utils:isa(object, $exit) &amp;&amp; =
(!use_exit_name))
 12:       linkname =3D object.dest.name;
 13:       link =3D tonum(object.dest);

With:

    if ($object_utils:isa(object, $exit))
      linkname =3D use_exit_name ? object.name | object.dest.name;
      link =3D tonum(object);


Step 2)

Create the following verb:

  @verb $exit:_html this none this rdx

And program it as follow:

------------------------
user =3D args[1];
if (user.location =3D=3D this.source)
  this:move(user);
  if (user.location =3D=3D this.dest)
    return =
{"&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html=
&gt;"};
  else
    return user.location:_html(user);
  endif
endif
return pass(user);
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</PRE><BR><BR>
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message.<BR>Checked by=20
  AVG Free Edition.<BR>Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.3/254 - =
Release=20
  Date: 08/02/2006<BR></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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Hello

 Is there a simple way for users to clear their logs ?

d.

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Hi there.

 I sent a message a few days ago about deleting logs and thought
I'd clarify the problem we are experiencing.

Our students are required to keep logs of their conversations in
the moo as part of their assessment. These logs get big. When
they try and delete these logs the system chugs away for 10 min
and then says :-

#125:parse_multipart_form_data, line 27:  Task ran out of ticks
... called from #125:parse_form, line 15
... called from #32:get, line 32
... called from #32:do_login_command, line 11
(End of traceback)

The wizard is able to clear the logs via
> Say the player is #234, then
> >>
> >>    ;clear_property(#234, "xpress_log")

So

1. Would increasing the ticks count from 30,000 help ?
2. Can we make the clear_property command available to all
   our users NOT just wizards ?

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David James Houghton wrote:
> Hi there.
> 
> I sent a message a few days ago about deleting logs and thought
> I'd clarify the problem we are experiencing.
> 
> Our students are required to keep logs of their conversations in
> the moo as part of their assessment. These logs get big. When
> they try and delete these logs the system chugs away for 10 min
> and then says :-


I think we had a discussion on this list about a month or two ago.

Basically, you would have to SET the property manually, not CLEAR it. 
You can do this with @set, which is available to the $player, whereas 
eval commands (the ;<somecode>) are only available to $progs and 
$wizzes. So

;clear_property

is available to people with a programmer's bit only. Actually DOING 
something with it need permissions on the property in question.

;clear_property(someone, "xpress_log")

needs the command issuer (you typing) to be a programmer PLUSS the owner 
(or granted user)  of the property.

Much easier:

@set me.xpress_log to {}

"@set" is defined on the $builder, so you don't need a prog-bit to 
perform that. I suggest you try that.


Good luck.

- Daniel

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Hi,

I am having problems getting outgoing mail working in encore. I have a
basic sendmail listening on localhost, which I can send mail from, but
if I put 127.0.0.1 as the mail server, the user does not get the mail.

Anyone offer some suggestions on where to start looking?

Thanks,

Aaron

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Hi Aaron!

Aaron Lippold wrote:
> I am having problems getting outgoing mail working in encore. I have a
> basic sendmail listening on localhost, which I can send mail from, but
> if I put 127.0.0.1 as the mail server, the user does not get the mail.

The mail server thing has truely been one major headache for many 
administrators/mooers. There are so many factors. We should try and 
isolate where it goes wrong, an then take it from there.

(1) You MUST be sure that the lambda moo server is set up to allow 
outbound mail. Check out
http://www.moo.mud.org/moo-faq/moo-faq-1.html, chapter
"1.11 Why won't my MOO send email with new character's passwords?" and 
check out the files on your lambdamoo server accordingly.

Maybe that already does the trick. If not:

(2) In order to send mail, the inner workings of the enCore database 
must be flawless. In enCore up to version 4.0.1, I have often 
experienced that the mailing scripts fail, because they are outdated; 
namely the stmp synchronization and the timestamp. I have written a fix here

http://lingo.uib.no/daniel/code/patch_for_sync_and_timestamp.moo

Paste it in like a regular moo patch. When done, you need to type

;$network.debugging_active = 1
;$network.debugging = {me}

Then you need to activate the mailing script somehow--this would be done 
easiest by clicking on a "stamp" icon somewhere in the web part of 
enCore, near a $note.

You may now follow line by line what happens between the moo and the 
mailserver, handshake, data transfer etc. It will be written line by 
line in your Chat area. To find out what's [not] going on, we would need 
a copy of this output.

Remember to set it back when done:

;$network.debugging_active = 0
;$network.debugging = {}



Good luck
- Daniel

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Hi Aaron,

Aaron Lippold wrote:
> I found that I did not have OUTBOUND_NETWORK set. I recompiled and
> then tried again.

OK, then we are one step further.

> I got this error:
> 
> *Password-Change-Log (#89) has just been sent new mail by Wizard (#2).
> Trouble sending mail: 553 5.5.4 <9>... Domain name required for sender address 9

OK. 553. I guess the "RCPT TO" line doesn't contain what it is supposed 
to do. Again, if you apply my patch, you will read a printout of the 
transfer negotiation. It will look like this:

(this MOO's name is "Norvana", running on "lingo.uib.no", the mail 
server is "alf.uib.no")

Norvana>    (establishing connection)
alf.uib.no> 220 alf.uib.no ESMTP (Exim 4.34) at ...
Norvana>    HELO lingo.uib.no
alf.uib.no> 250 alf.uib.no Hello lingo.uib.no [129.177.79.50]
Norvana>    MAIL FROM: <support@lingo.uib.no>
alf.uib.no> 250 OK
Norvana>    RCPT TO: <jung@uib.no>
alf.uib.no> 250 Accepted
Norvana>    DATA
alf.uib.no> 354 Enter message, ending with "." on a line by itself


and so on. Do you see the RCPT TO: line? This line must be accepted with 
a 250 answer, but in your case, it is rejected with a 553 answer.

The RCPT TO: line is entered by $network:raw_sendmail. Normally, a mail 
with an invalid target address (RCPT TO:) is not sent--$network:sendmail 
should make sure invalid address don't pass. But there might be factors 
I can't see: I don't know what the RCPT TO: line you send says, neither 
do I know from where you push the email.

You should look at these questions:

(1) Who is the mail in question being sent to?
(2) What's his/her emailaddress in the MOO?

If it's a faulty address, you should set the address straight. That 
might do it.


Good luck.
- Daniel

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**Have you got your indispensable Conference Attending Guide?
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*E-Forum #3 starts 2/16* at Computers&Writing.org 
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"Writing on the Computer: Craft or Knack?" Shaun Slattery 
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*CWOnline 2006 Symposium2/18 from 10 AM-3PM CST*

*Keynote Conversation* with Cynthia Selfe, Cheryl Ball, Fred Kemp and 
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http://english.ttu.edu/cw/CWO2006/keystart.pdf

*Synchronous Presentations*
--eight excellent online presentations and discussions
--Note: To view Spencer Shaffner's cool Facebook videos, you will need 
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*Poster Presentations*
--We have five really excellent Poster Sessions available.  These 
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*CWOnline 2006 Thanks its Sponsors*
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Be sure to test your access into TTU English MOO before the Symposium to 
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CWOnline 2006 has over 150 people registered.  I'm sure not everyone 
will attend Saturday's Symposium, but we will have a crowd in TTU 
English MOO.   enCore MOO is a multi-user environment, and various moo 
experts have given assurances that we should be fine with up to 200 
people or more online at once.  However, we are entering a bit of 
unknown territory. 

One mild problem we could encounter is "lag" or a time delay between 
when a message is entered and when it displays.  A severe problem would 
be the moo server crashes.  In the case of catastrophic failure, check 
the conference home page for a news update.  The Symposium presentations 
would then be rescheduled for available times during the remainder of 
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We look forward to "seeing" you at one of the many online venues for 
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b style="">What's up with
CWOnline 2006! </b>(<a href="http://english.ttu.edu/cw/CWO2006/">http://english.ttu.edu/cw/CWO2006/</a>)</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b style=""><o:p></o:p></b>Have you got your
indispensable Conference Attending Guide?<br>
-- <a
 href="http://english.ttu.edu/cw/CWO2006/CWonline2006_ConfGuide.pdf">http://english.ttu.edu/cw/CWO2006/CWonline2006_ConfGuide.pdf</a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p><b style="">E-Forum #3 starts
2/16</b> at Computers&amp;Writing.org <a
 href="http://computersandwriting.org/">http://computersandwriting.org</a><br>
"Writing on the Computer: Craft or Knack?" Shaun
Slattery (<a href="http://condor.depaul.edu/%7Esslatte1/CWO2006/">http://condor.depaul.edu/~sslatte1/CWO2006/</a>)
and "Online Work: Theories, Challenges, and Perspectives." Pavel
Zemliansky &amp; Kirk St. Amant's co-presentation.<br>
--This asynchronous presentation has a Tech Comm theme and
lasts through 2/20.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b style="">CWOnline 2006
Symposium2/18 from 10 AM-3PM CST<o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p><b style="">Keynote Conversation</b>
with Cynthia Selfe, Cheryl Ball, Fred Kemp and James Inman on the topic
of "Computers
&amp; WritingA Discipline?"--read brief topic responses from the
presenters  <a href="http://english.ttu.edu/cw/CWO2006/keystart.pdf">http://english.ttu.edu/cw/CWO2006/keystart.pdf</a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p><b style="">Synchronous
Presentations</b><br>
--eight excellent online presentations and discussions<br>
--Note: To view Spencer Shaffner's cool Facebook videos, you will need
QuickTime installed on your computer.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p><b style="">Poster Presentations</b><br>
--We have five really excellent Poster Sessions available.<span style=""> 
</span>These presentations are viewable right now
and available for asynchronous commenting.<span style=""> 
</span>The authors will be present to chat with conference goers on
Saturday.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b style="">The
Technorhetorician's Bar &amp; Grill Returns<br>
</b>Transported from MediaMOO, the legendary Technorhetorician's
B&amp;G and
its famous bartender, Lou, have come back to life.<span style="">  </span>Be
sure to visit the Bar to talk to Lou and
get something to drink if you get thirsty during the conference.<span
 style="">  </span>Lou even has the ability to leave message for
people.<span style="">  </span>(Many thanks to Kevin Jepsen for
porting Lou.)<br>
<o:p></o:p><br>
<b style="">CWOnline 2006 Thanks
its Sponsors<o:p></o:p></b><br>
<a href="http://english.ttu.edu/cw/CWO2006/sponsors.html">http://english.ttu.edu/cw/CWO2006/sponsors.html</a><br>
--Bedford's/St.Martins<br>
--Longman Publishers<br>
--The Technical Communication and Rhetoric Department of Texas Tech
University<br>
--The enCore Consortium</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p><br>
<b style="">Special Notes about
the Symposium<o:p></o:p></b><br>
Be sure to test your access into TTU English MOO before the
Symposium to work out any connectivity problems you may experience
(firewall,
popup blocker, java).<span style="">  </span>See the Attending
Guide for more information.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p>CWOnline 2006 has over 150 people
registered.<span style="">  </span>I'm sure not everyone will attend
Saturday's
Symposium, but we will have a crowd in TTU English MOO.<span style="">  
</span>enCore MOO is a multi-user environment, and
various moo experts have given assurances that we should be fine with
up to 200
people or more online at once.<span style="">  </span>However,
we are entering a bit of unknown territory.<span style=""> 
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p></o:p>One mild problem we could encounter is
"lag" or a
time delay between when a message is entered and when it displays.<span
 style="">  </span>A severe problem would be the moo server
crashes.<span style="">  </span>In the case of catastrophic
failure, check the conference home page for a news update.<span style=""> 
</span>The Symposium presentations would then be
rescheduled for available times during the remainder of the Conference.<span
 style=""> <br>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">We look forward to "seeing" you at
one of the many online venues for this conference.<br>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="">Lennie Irvin<br>
--on behalf of the entire CWOnline 2006 Organizing Committee<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://english.ttu.edu/cw/CWO2006/about.html">http://english.ttu.edu/cw/CWO2006/about.html</a></span></p>
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I'm having a problem on our MOO with the access code cookie. I believe
this is used for authenticating a logon through Xpress and is set to
expire at the end of the session (when the browser is closed).

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The message reads:

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reconnect.

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Is there a way in which I can extend the amount of time before it
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Computers & Writing Online 2006 conference that relates to MOO.  It is 
offered by Kevin Moberly on his work with BrightMOO.  He has been doing 
some very interesting work implementing 3D graphics into MOO through a 
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I recommend this to everyone highly.  Information about the presentation 
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"The Understated Future: BrightMOO, New Media and Liminality." Kevin 
Moberly, North Carolina Wesleyan College.

The presentation will be held in AadianaMOO: acadianamoo.org, port 6556.

Participants can download the BrightMOO client from:

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I wanted to share one of the special presentations that is part of the
Computers &amp; Writing Online 2006 conference that relates to MOO.&nbsp; It
is offered by Kevin Moberly on his work with BrightMOO.&nbsp; He has been
doing some very interesting work implementing 3D graphics into MOO
through a different CORE.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
I recommend this to everyone highly.&nbsp; Information about the
presentation and how to connect are below.<br>
<br>
Yours,<br>
<br>
Lennie<br>
<br>
<h2>Wednesday, February 22 </h2>
<h2>6 - 7:30 p.m. CST (7 - 8:30 p.m. EST )</h2>
<p>"The Understated Future: BrightMOO, New Media and Liminality." Kevin
Moberly, North Carolina Wesleyan College.</p>
The presentation will be held in AadianaMOO: acadianamoo.org, port 6556.<br>
<pre wrap="">
Participants can download the BrightMOO client from:

<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
 href="http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=111069">http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=111069</a>

They can also connect to AcadianaMOO with the JaMOOka java client at:

<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
 href="http://acadianamoo.org/JaMOOka/index.html">http://acadianamoo.org/JaMOOka/index.html</a>

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We are having yet more connection problems!!

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We have people trying to connect to our MOO who are running a
configuration as follows.

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One PC is being used as a proxy server for a lab of computers. The PC
which is being used as a proxy can connect to our MOO. The PCs which are
trying to connect through the proxy are receiving java.lang error
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:
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who are
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
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computers. The PC which is being used as a proxy can connect to our MOO. =
The PCs
which are trying to connect through the proxy are receiving java.lang =
error messages
and cannot connect. The proxy PC can connect from the command prompt via =
&#8216;telnet
address 7777&#8217;, however the other PCs receive the error message, =
&#8216;could
not open connection to host on port 7777: connect failed. All PCs in the =
system
have pretty much the same specs with Java installed and enabled for the =
Xpress.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It is difficult for us to replicate this error =
from
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-GB =
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Hello Folks,

I am looking for any statistics, anecdotes or=20
other information concerning the retention rates=20
for students enrolled in courses taught on a MOO=20
versus retention rates on other delivery platforms (including face-to-face).

If they are better in the MOO, why do you think it is so?

Thanks!!

David



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Hi All,

I was wondering if anyone has made a web log ( read only ) of rooms in
the moo. i.e. "See what you missed" type thing that I could setup to
automatically do daily logs of the rooms that folks could look at over
the web.

Thanks,

Aaron

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Hi Aaron,

I may not know exactly what you mean by the question.  You can set a 
recorder in a room and it will record all the talk in that room, though 
you can't view it until the recorder is turned off.  That transcript has 
a web address, so it could be viewable via the web. 

Are you thinking of a kind kind of RSS type feature for rooms?  That 
sounds fairly interesting.  You could set up an rss link to a webroom 
transcript which is continually updated.  It sounds pretty interesting, 
but I'm afraid others will have to comment on its feasibility 
programming-wise in enCore. 

For instance, I don't know if when you "start" a recorder if that 
actually creates the object that now contains the text of the 
conversation in a room.  Or if that object could be accessible via the 
web and potentially a rss feed before you "stop" recorder. 

Lennie looks around the room for more knowledgeable moo programmers...

L.

Aaron Lippold wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>I was wondering if anyone has made a web log ( read only ) of rooms in
>the moo. i.e. "See what you missed" type thing that I could setup to
>automatically do daily logs of the rooms that folks could look at over
>the web.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Aaron
>
>
>  
>

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Aaron, 

I don't really know whether this is what you mean, but Sindre from Encore worked out 
something for us years ago.
In our MOO, CLCS campus, we have a MOO-log collection mechanism that works as follows:

1. Only administrators can switch this on or off to start or stop logging.
2. Each MOO user, after logging off, automatically receives an email with the full 
transcript of all communication he/she was involved in, including moves, even if moving 
across rooms. On re-connection, a new log is started, etc.
3. The administrator also receives a copy of this via email (it goes without saying that 
administrators should get written consent from users before doing this...).

Is that what you are looking for?
K

> >Hi All,
> >
> >I was wondering if anyone has made a web log ( read only ) of rooms in
> >the moo. i.e. "See what you missed" type thing that I could setup to
> >automatically do daily logs of the rooms that folks could look at over
> >the web.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Aaron
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 


-- 
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Arts Building, Trinity College
Dublin 2
Ireland
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Email: kschwien@tcd.ie
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Hi!

My guess: the (persistent) telnet connection can't go through the proxy - 
and/or there's a firewall on the proxy PC where port 7777 is closed [port 7777 
is not reachable on the proxy].

Regards,
-Trond K. Pettersen

Sitat Matthew Coupe <Matthew.Coupe@nccedu.com>:

> Hi there,
> 
>  
> 
> We are having yet more connection problems!!
> 
>  
> 
> We have people trying to connect to our MOO who are running a
> configuration as follows.
> 
>  
> 
> One PC is being used as a proxy server for a lab of computers. The PC
> which is being used as a proxy can connect to our MOO. The PCs which are
> trying to connect through the proxy are receiving java.lang error
> messages and cannot connect. The proxy PC can connect from the command
> prompt via 'telnet address 7777', however the other PCs receive the
> error message, 'could not open connection to host on port 7777: connect
> failed. All PCs in the system have pretty much the same specs with Java
> installed and enabled for the Xpress.
> 
>  
> 
> It is difficult for us to replicate this error from our internal
> network.
> 
>  
> 
> Has anyone suffered a similar problem over a proxy connection or shared
> Internet connection?
> 
>  
> 
> Any help would be warmly received.
> 
>  
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 

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Hi Matthew!

Matthew Coupe wrote:
> One PC is being used as a proxy server for a lab of computers. 

Do you HAVE to use it as a proxy? Who set it up that way? Can the 
network be set up with a filter (i.e., that the specified server/address 
http://xyz.com:7000 will not be pushed through the proxy?

Since ...

> the proxy PC can connect from the command
> prompt via 'telnet address 7777', 

... there should be no insolvable firewall issue on your network.

Just to be sure: telnet command prompt works, - but does the Xpress 
login page work (on the proxy computer)?


- Daniel

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Hi

This is an explanation of a questions Lennie raised, and a few questions 
I want to add. (information about v5 is indented. The non-indented parts 
go for current versions.)

Lennie Irvin wrote:
> I may not know exactly what you mean by the question.  You can set a 
> recorder in a room and it will record all the talk in that room, though 
> you can't view it until the recorder is turned off.  

Yes you can. When a recorder starts a session, a note is created right 
away. This is why you may get a "quota exceeded" when you are low on 
quota and wish to log a session: The creation of the (empty) note is 
then prohibited.

This note is kept in "Nirvana" (#-1) for the time of the recording. As 
the conversation grows, line by line is added to this note. This is a 
normal note which can be viewed at any time, including during recording.

    v5 has a convenient "preview" button/link which lets you read the
    recording in progress. This is for participants showing up late (who
    wish to read what has been said and done prior to their arrival), and
    for the teacher, who wants to know how many utterances a given
    player has contributed with in this session (there is a statistics
    section on the note saying how many participants there are, naming
    them, and mapping them to how many utterences they have contributed
    with. The lines are colored (one user - one color), and utterances
    are thus easily retrievable. This is generated on the fly, and works
    already during recording. This is much more accurate, or: telling,
    than the "idle time" in the @who command.

When the recording is done, this note is "teleported" from Nirvana to 
the recorder. The information about what note's #-number is stored on 
the recorder.log property.

    Anyway, v5 makes automatically a log of the "user experience", i.e.,
    in a way, the old "personal Xpress Log" is ON by default (due to
    reasons i don't want to explain here). So every player has a personal
    log of his/her contribution, and, in fact, perception. Since it is
    tied to the user, not the room, it works cross-room. And
    cross-session, in fact. This log is k