From Matthew.Coupe@nccedu.com Wed Jan 11 07:29:25 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 11 Jan 2006 07:29:26 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9880A5BD0 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 07:29:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557442526 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 07:29:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25340-01-43 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 07:29:19 -0600 (CST) X-Greylist: delayed 1126 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at mx2; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 07:29:19 CST Received: from he200war.uk.vianw.net (he200war.uk.vianw.net [195.102.244.148]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E1773430 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 07:29:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from [195.102.153.3] (helo=nccexch001.nccedu.com) by he200war.uk.vianw.net with esmtp (Exim 4.04) id 1Ewfk5-0001XT-00 for encore@utdallas.edu; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:10:21 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C616B0.7BC3D1A6" Subject: [encore] single sign on for MOO and a Learning Management System Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:11:05 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Matthew Coupe" To: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1554 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Matthew.Coupe@nccedu.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Matthew.Coupe@nccedu.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C616B0.7BC3D1A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear all, =20 I have a question on an administrational/technical aspect of the MOO. We are working to integrate our MOO into a Learning Management System (dotLRN) which authenticates to Active Directory via LDAP. The main objective is to have a single point of administration for users and administrators for the two systems to enable them to appear as one. =20 One option we are currently looking at is to have the user accounts defined in the Active Directory, an account will be created in both the LMS and the MOO with the same username and password. Ideally the user will only be able to change their password in the LMS, however for this to be the case we would need the password in the MOO to be changed also. Is it possible to set up a batch type file that will open a MOO connection, perform some commands and then close the connection again? Perhaps a Telnet connection? The solution to this would be similar to one in which a batch file or other mechanism is used to created multiple user accounts without needing a manual Wiz login first. The process for logging in will be as follows: The user will arrive at our website, they will log in to the LMS, they will simply press a link which will take them into the MOO and bypass a second login page. =20 Has anyone out there done something similar in the past or have any information regarding MOO authentication that may help? =20 Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated, =20 Matthew Coupe Online Learning System Developer =20 The Towers, Towers Business Park, Didsbury, Manchester, M20 2EZ, UK =20 Tel: +44 (0)161 438 6245 =20 Email: Matthew.Coupe@nccedu.com =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C616B0.7BC3D1A6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear all,

 

I have a = question on an administrational/technical aspect of the MOO. We are working to = integrate our MOO into a Learning Management System (dotLRN) which authenticates = to Active Directory via LDAP. The main objective is to have a single point = of administration for users and administrators for the two systems to enable them to = appear as one.

 

One option we are currently looking at is to have = the user accounts defined in the Active Directory, an account will be created in = both the LMS and the MOO with the same username and password. Ideally the = user will only be able to change their password in the LMS, however for this to be = the case we would need the password in the MOO to be changed = also.

Is it possible to set up a batch type file that = will open a MOO connection, perform some commands and then close the connection = again? Perhaps a Telnet connection? The solution to this would be similar to = one in which a batch file or other mechanism is used to created multiple user = accounts without needing a manual Wiz login first.

The process for logging in will be as = follows:

The user will arrive at our website, they will log = in to the LMS, they will simply press a link which will take them into the MOO = and bypass a second login page.

 

Has anyone = out there done something similar in the past or have any information regarding MOO = authentication that may help?

 

Any help or = advice would be greatly appreciated,

 

Matthew = Coupe<= /p>

Online Learning System = Developer

 

The Towers,

Towers Business Park,=

Didsbury,

Manchester,=

M20 2EZ,

UK<= /p>

 

Tel: +44 (0)161 438 = 6245

 

Email: = Matthew.Coupe@nccedu.com

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C616B0.7BC3D1A6-- From lirvin@ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU Wed Jan 11 10:11:35 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:11:35 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742DF5BAD for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:11:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6826BEFD for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:11:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20920-01-26 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:11:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E6C92CB1 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:11:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from gh208300633 [10.11.36.41] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:11:21 CST From: "Lennie Irvin" To: , Subject: [encore] Re: single sign on for MOO and a Learning Management System Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:11:18 -0600 Message-ID: <001101c616c9$a78c38a0$29240b0a@sac.ad.root> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C61697.5CF1C8A0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcYWsxe/syAw7ZQNQAq4GbrsDv2i5AAFbcBA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1555 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lirvin@accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C61697.5CF1C8A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Matthew, You are talking about creating a single interface for multiple applications, right? I think in the past we have talked about a single place to create user accounts in multiple applications (enCore being one of the applications). I think Daniel has established something similar to this at UIB with the Lingo Project, but I believe he encountered problems and doesn't use it. Daniel would know better. As I recall rv (herve) in Hawaii also set up something similar and may still be using it (herve are you still on this list?). I could help you chase down herve if you need to. I'm not sure about the batch file. Let us know how this project goes. Lennie _____ From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] On Behalf Of Matthew Coupe Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 7:11 AM To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] single sign on for MOO and a Learning Management System Dear all, I have a question on an administrational/technical aspect of the MOO. We are working to integrate our MOO into a Learning Management System (dotLRN) which authenticates to Active Directory via LDAP. The main objective is to have a single point of administration for users and administrators for the two systems to enable them to appear as one. One option we are currently looking at is to have the user accounts defined in the Active Directory, an account will be created in both the LMS and the MOO with the same username and password. Ideally the user will only be able to change their password in the LMS, however for this to be the case we would need the password in the MOO to be changed also. Is it possible to set up a batch type file that will open a MOO connection, perform some commands and then close the connection again? Perhaps a Telnet connection? The solution to this would be similar to one in which a batch file or other mechanism is used to created multiple user accounts without needing a manual Wiz login first. The process for logging in will be as follows: The user will arrive at our website, they will log in to the LMS, they will simply press a link which will take them into the MOO and bypass a second login page. Has anyone out there done something similar in the past or have any information regarding MOO authentication that may help? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated, Matthew Coupe Online Learning System Developer The Towers, Towers Business Park, Didsbury, Manchester, M20 2EZ, UK Tel: +44 (0)161 438 6245 Email: Matthew.Coupe@nccedu.com ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C61697.5CF1C8A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hey Matthew,

 

You are talking about creating a = single interface for multiple applications, right?  I think in the past we = have talked about a single place to create user accounts in multiple = applications (enCore being one of the applications). I think Daniel has established something similar to this at UIB with the Lingo Project, but I believe he = encountered problems and doesn't use it.  Daniel would know better.  As I = recall rv (herve) in Hawaii also set up something similar and may still be = using it (herve are you still on this list?).  I could help you chase down = herve if you need to.

 

I'm not sure about the batch = file.  Let us know how this project goes.

 

Lennie

 


From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] On Behalf Of Matthew Coupe
Sent: Wednesday, January = 11, 2006 7:11 AM
To: = encore@utdallas.edu
Subject: [encore] single = sign on for MOO and a Learning Management System

 

Dear all,

 

I have a = question on an administrational/technical aspect of the MOO. We are working to = integrate our MOO into a Learning Management System (dotLRN) which authenticates = to Active Directory via LDAP. The main objective is to have a single point of administration for users and administrators for the two systems to = enable them to appear as one.

 

One option we are currently looking at is to have = the user accounts defined in the Active Directory, an account will be created in = both the LMS and the MOO with the same username and password. Ideally the = user will only be able to change their password in the LMS, however for this to be = the case we would need the password in the MOO to be changed = also.

Is it possible to set up a batch type file that = will open a MOO connection, perform some commands and then close the connection = again? Perhaps a Telnet connection? The solution to this would be similar to = one in which a batch file or other mechanism is used to created multiple user = accounts without needing a manual Wiz login first.

The process for logging in will be as = follows:

The user will arrive at our website, they will log = in to the LMS, they will simply press a link which will take them into the MOO = and bypass a second login page.

 <= /font>

Has anyone = out there done something similar in the past or have any information regarding MOO authentication that may help?

 <= /font>

Any help or = advice would be greatly appreciated,

 

Matthew Coupe

Online Learning System Developer

 

The Towers,

Towers Business Park,

Didsbury,

Manchester,

M20 2EZ,

UK

 

Tel: +44 (0)161 438 6245

 

Email: Matthew.Coupe@nccedu.com

 

------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C61697.5CF1C8A0-- From egoff@mindspring.com Wed Jan 11 10:27:22 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:27:22 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF255BAD for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:27:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5834528C9 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:27:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23154-01-41 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:27:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7F83543 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:24:23 -0600 (CST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=JIszO05UIkdB9ECT3MJZE0rHLZL7oEFc6guNUaEdy5CPP0WCh8whq2R9kWeZfEzq; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Importance:In-Reply-To:Disposition-Notification-To:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [69.250.78.202] (helo=master) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Ewilp-0003qc-0a; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:24:21 -0500 From: "Edward Goff" To: , , Subject: [encore] Re: single sign on for MOO and a Learning Management System Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 11:21:16 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C616A1.2364C470" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <001101c616c9$a78c38a0$29240b0a@sac.ad.root> X-ELNK-Trace: 23f5b2bec61e6078d4c20f6b8d69d888dddb0c7b466da58226c52b84469e77bfbf8475143b48095d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.250.78.202 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1556 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: egoff@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: egoff@mindspring.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C616A1.2364C470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This goes back to my theory that if would could find a way to handle the database a bit better we would be able to use some form of sql to read and modify input information. In this case I know you can write something in SQL that could take input from LDAP and modify a table in sql. IF SQL could be,input and modify the MOO DB real time it would work.. Please let me know how this works out. Just as an FYI my original thought would be having a standard TEXT interface for those that want it, IE core level programming ect, and having a Database modification program for simple stuff all the way up to a full GUI interface for any thing. Virtual teaching to gaming. Edward Goff -----Original Message----- From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu]On Behalf Of Lennie Irvin Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:11 AM To: Matthew.Coupe@nccedu.com; encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: single sign on for MOO and a Learning Management System Hey Matthew, You are talking about creating a single interface for multiple applications, right? I think in the past we have talked about a single place to create user accounts in multiple applications (enCore being one of the applications). I think Daniel has established something similar to this at UIB with the Lingo Project, but I believe he encountered problems and doesn't use it. Daniel would know better. As I recall rv (herve) in Hawaii also set up something similar and may still be using it (herve are you still on this list?). I could help you chase down herve if you need to. I'm not sure about the batch file. Let us know how this project goes. Lennie ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] On Behalf Of Matthew Coupe Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 7:11 AM To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] single sign on for MOO and a Learning Management System Dear all, I have a question on an administrational/technical aspect of the MOO. We are working to integrate our MOO into a Learning Management System (dotLRN) which authenticates to Active Directory via LDAP. The main objective is to have a single point of administration for users and administrators for the two systems to enable them to appear as one. One option we are currently looking at is to have the user accounts defined in the Active Directory, an account will be created in both the LMS and the MOO with the same username and password. Ideally the user will only be able to change their password in the LMS, however for this to be the case we would need the password in the MOO to be changed also. Is it possible to set up a batch type file that will open a MOO connection, perform some commands and then close the connection again? Perhaps a Telnet connection? The solution to this would be similar to one in which a batch file or other mechanism is used to created multiple user accounts without needing a manual Wiz login first. The process for logging in will be as follows: The user will arrive at our website, they will log in to the LMS, they will simply press a link which will take them into the MOO and bypass a second login page. Has anyone out there done something similar in the past or have any information regarding MOO authentication that may help? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated, Matthew Coupe Online Learning System Developer The Towers, Towers Business Park, Didsbury, Manchester, M20 2EZ, UK Tel: +44 (0)161 438 6245 Email: Matthew.Coupe@nccedu.com ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C616A1.2364C470 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This=20 goes back to my theory that if would could find a way to handle the = database a=20 bit better we would be able to use some form of sql to read and modify = input=20 information. In this case I know you can write something in SQL that = could take=20 input from LDAP and modify a table in sql. IF SQL could be,input and = modify the=20 MOO DB real time it would work..
 
Please=20 let me know how this works out.
 
Just=20 as an FYI my original thought would be having a standard TEXT interface = for=20 those that want it, IE core level programming ect, and having a Database = modification program for simple stuff all the way up to a full GUI = interface for=20 any thing. Virtual teaching to gaming.
 
Edward=20 Goff
-----Original Message-----
From: = encore-bounce@utdallas.edu=20 [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu]On Behalf Of Lennie=20 Irvin
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:11 = AM
To:=20 Matthew.Coupe@nccedu.com; encore@utdallas.edu
Subject: = [encore] Re:=20 single sign on for MOO and a Learning Management = System

Hey=20 Matthew,

 

You are = talking about=20 creating a single interface for multiple applications, right?  I = think in=20 the past we have talked about a single place to create user accounts = in=20 multiple applications (enCore being one of the applications). I think = Daniel=20 has established something similar to this at UIB with the Lingo = Project, but I=20 believe he encountered problems and doesn't use it.  Daniel would = know=20 better.  As I recall rv (herve) in Hawaii also set up something = similar=20 and may still be using it (herve are you still on this list?).  I = could=20 help you chase down herve if you need to.

 

I'm not = sure about=20 the batch file.  Let us know how this project = goes.

 

Lennie

 


From:=20 encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] = On Behalf Of Matthew = Coupe
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, = 2006 7:11=20 AM
To:=20 encore@utdallas.edu
Subject:=20 [encore] single sign on for MOO and a Learning Management=20 System

 

Dear = all,

 

I have a = question=20 on an administrational/technical aspect of the MOO. We are working to=20 integrate our MOO into a Learning Management System (dotLRN) which=20 authenticates to Active Directory via LDAP. The main objective is to = have a=20 single point of administration for users and administrators for the = two=20 systems to enable them to appear as one.

 

One option we are = currently=20 looking at is to have the user accounts defined in the Active = Directory, an=20 account will be created in both the LMS and the MOO with the same = username and=20 password. Ideally the user will only be able to change their password = in the=20 LMS, however for this to be the case we would need the password in the = MOO to=20 be changed also.

Is it possible to set = up a batch=20 type file that will open a MOO connection, perform some commands and = then=20 close the connection again? Perhaps a Telnet connection? The solution = to this=20 would be similar to one in which a batch file or other mechanism is = used to=20 created multiple user accounts without needing a manual Wiz login=20 first.

The process for = logging in will=20 be as follows:

The user will arrive = at our=20 website, they will log in to the LMS, they will simply press a link = which will=20 take them into the MOO and bypass a second login = page.

 

Has = anyone out=20 there done something similar in the past or have any information = regarding MOO=20 authentication that may help?

 

Any help = or advice=20 would be greatly appreciated,

 

Matthew = Coupe

Online Learning System = Developer

 

The = Towers,

Towers Business=20 Park,

Didsbury,

Manchester,

M20 = 2EZ,

UK

 

Tel: +44 (0)161 438=20 6245

 

Email:=20 Matthew.Coupe@nccedu.com

 

------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C616A1.2364C470-- From lirvin@ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU Wed Jan 11 16:03:37 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:03:37 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58F8D5BCC for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:03:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1842A43 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:03:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 17391-01-75 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:03:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 62AA73540 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:41:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] [10.11.36.41] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:41:38 CST Message-ID: <43C57B92.5000109@accd.edu> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:41:38 -0600 From: Lennie Irvin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] CWOnline 2006 Registration Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040400010706040000010208" X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1557 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lirvin@accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040400010706040000010208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Everyone, Just a quick note to say that registration for Computers & Writing Online 2006 is live and ready to go. Visit http://english.ttu.edu/cw/CWO2006/ to register. From the conference home page, you will also find a list of all the presentations accepted for the conference. We have an excellent line up of presentations, and I hope you are making travel plans to attend now: E-Forum asynchronous presentations Feb. 6-28 Tuesday Night Cafi Reunion Feb 7 Symposium--real-time presentations, poster sessions, and keynote conversation Feb. 18 10-3 PM CST. (held in an enCore MOO--TTU MOO) We also have in the works some special GRN (Graduate Research Network) events, and we are working on a recreation of the infamous Technorhetorician's Bar & Grill complete with Lou the bartender (thanks to Kevin Jepsen's help). A complete conference-going guide will be sent to all those who have registered for the conference by Feb. 1^st . In the meantime, feel free to explore the conference website and contact me if you have any questions. Cheers, Lennie cross-posted to tech-rhet, KairosNews, and NWP Tech Liaisons --------------040400010706040000010208 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi Everyone,


Just a quick note to say that registration for Computers & Writing Online 2006 is live and ready to go.  Visit
http://english.ttu.edu/cw/CWO2006/ to register.

 

From the conference home page, you will also find a list of all the presentations accepted for the conference.  We have an excellent line up of presentations, and I hope you are making travel plans to attend now:

 

E-Forum asynchronous presentations Feb. 6-28
Tuesday Night Café Reunion Feb 7

Symposium—real-time presentations, poster sessions, and keynote conversation Feb. 18 10-3 PM CST.  (held in an enCore MOO--TTU MOO)

 

We also have in the works some special GRN (Graduate Research Network) events, and we are working on a recreation of the infamous Technorhetorician's Bar & Grill complete with Lou the bartender (thanks to Kevin Jepsen's help).   


A complete conference-going guide will be sent to all those who have registered for the conference by Feb. 1st.  In the meantime, feel free to explore the conference website and contact me if you have any questions. 

 

Cheers,

 

Lennie


cross-posted to tech-rhet, KairosNews, and NWP Tech Liaisons

--------------040400010706040000010208-- From lirvin@ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU Thu Jan 12 09:08:20 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:08:20 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA505BC7 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:08:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA052D65 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:08:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12330-01-67 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:08:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D2F9342C for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:08:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] [10.11.36.41] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:08:09 CST Message-ID: <43C670D8.7070800@accd.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:08:08 -0600 From: Lennie Irvin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Strange problem Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010305000006050201060705" X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1558 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lirvin@accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010305000006050201060705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Everyone, I have been experiencing the strangest thing while logged in to the TTUMOO. I attempt to talk (say hi) and I get this response sequence I don't understand that. Try this instead: say <> Please enter your statement and hit return. <> I don't understand that. I type "look" and get "I don't understand that." When I hit the WHO button and LOOK button I get these messages: Who Browser Error Failed request was: GET /who_browser/main.html HTTP/1.1 Details: Traceback: #154:main_html, line 44:Property not found ... called from #32:get, line 55 (End of traceback) LOOK error Failed request was: GET /Xpress_client/display_user_location HTTP/1.1 Details: Traceback: #147:display_user_location, line 14:Verb not found ... called from #32:get, line 55 (End of traceback) Oddly enough, it seemed to clear this morning when I typed @go Main Entrance. After the @go command I could type say hi and it worked. I'm a wizard and it seems like it has something to do with my user level, because last night while in class inside TTU MOO I was the only one experiencing this problem chatting. I was able to login as a guest and chat fine. Any theories? This one has me baffled. Thanks for any help you can provide. Lennie --------------010305000006050201060705 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Everyone,

I have been experiencing the strangest thing while logged in to the TTUMOO. I attempt to talk (say hi) and I get this response sequence

I don't understand that.
Try this instead:  say
<<I enter say and then it says>>
Please enter your statement and hit return.
<<I type some and hit enter.  Nothing.  I type a period on a line by itself. Nothing.  I type and enter again and I get the next line.>>
I don't understand that.

I type "look" and get "I don't understand that." 

When I hit the WHO button and LOOK button I get these messages:

Who Browser Error

Failed request was: GET /who_browser/main.html HTTP/1.1
Details:

Traceback: 
#154:main_html, line 44:Property not found
... called from #32:get, line 55
(End of traceback)

LOOK error

Failed request was: GET /Xpress_client/display_user_location HTTP/1.1
Details:

Traceback: 
#147:display_user_location, line 14:Verb not found
... called from #32:get, line 55
(End of traceback)

Oddly enough, it seemed to clear this  morning when I typed @go Main Entrance.  
After the @go command I could type say hi and it worked.   

I'm a wizard and it seems like it has something to do with my user level, 
because last night while in class inside TTU MOO I was the only one experiencing this
problem chatting.  I was able to login as a guest and chat fine.  


Any theories? This one has me baffled.

Thanks for any help you can provide.


Lennie

--------------010305000006050201060705-- From alexborgia@hotmail.com Thu Jan 12 09:33:05 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:33:06 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C352E5BC7 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:33:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B64A2D3A for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:33:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15491-01-46 for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:32:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from hotmail.com (bay106-dav11.bay106.hotmail.com [65.54.161.83]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3423342C for ; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:32:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:32:56 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 198.168.153.20 by BAY106-DAV11.phx.gbl with DAV; Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:32:55 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [198.168.153.20] X-Originating-Email: [alexborgia@hotmail.com] X-Sender: alexborgia@hotmail.com From: "Alexandre Borgia" To: Subject: [encore] Re: Strange problem Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:35:26 -0500 Message-ID: <000401c6178d$cf8734d0$2ac71fac@CLINFO.MCGILL.CA> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C61763.E6B39DD0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 In-Reply-To: <43C670D8.7070800@accd.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jan 2006 15:32:56.0235 (UTC) FILETIME=[75E41FB0:01C6178D] X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1559 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: alexborgia@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: alexborgia@hotmail.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C61763.E6B39DD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lennie! =20 I experience this from time to time, it happens when your = player is not located inside a valid room. This is why using @go to teleport = you elsewhere fixed the problem. As for why this happened I cannot tell, = but moving commands are not 100% error-proofed and for instance I think you = can get inside an object that is not a room if you type "@go #". = You probably did something like that by mistake. But there's no worry about = it, you can always use @go or @home to get back to a valid location! :-) =20 - Alex =20 -----Original Message----- From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] On Behalf Of Lennie Irvin Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:08 AM To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Strange problem =20 Hey Everyone, I have been experiencing the strangest thing while logged in to the = TTUMOO. I attempt to talk (say hi) and I get this response sequence I don't understand that. Try this instead: say <> Please enter your statement and hit return. <> I don't understand that. I type "look" and get "I don't understand that." =20 When I hit the WHO button and LOOK button I get these messages: Who Browser Error Failed request was: GET /who_browser/main.html HTTP/1.1=20 Details:=20 Traceback:=20 #154:main_html, line 44:Property not found .. called from #32:get, line 55 (End of traceback) LOOK error Failed request was: GET /Xpress_client/display_user_location HTTP/1.1=20 Details:=20 Traceback:=20 #147:display_user_location, line 14:Verb not found .. called from #32:get, line 55 (End of traceback) =20 Oddly enough, it seemed to clear this morning when I typed @go Main Entrance. =20 After the @go command I could type say hi and it worked. =20 =20 I'm a wizard and it seems like it has something to do with my user = level,=20 because last night while in class inside TTU MOO I was the only one experiencing this problem chatting. I was able to login as a guest and chat fine. =20 =20 =20 Any theories? This one has me baffled. =20 Thanks for any help you can provide. =20 =20 Lennie =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C61763.E6B39DD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Lennie!

 

      =       I experience this from time to time, it happens when your player is not = located inside a valid room.  This is why using @go to teleport you elsewhere = fixed the problem.  As for why this happened I cannot tell, but moving = commands are not 100% error-proofed and for instance I think you can get inside an = object that is not a room if you type “@go #<object = id>”.  You probably did something like that by mistake.  But there’s no = worry about it, you can always use @go or @home to get back to a valid = location! J

      =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;          =

      =       - Alex

 

-----Origi= nal Message-----
From: = encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] On Behalf Of Lennie Irvin
Sent:
Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:08 = AM
To: = encore@utdallas.edu
Subject: [encore] Strange = problem

 

Hey = Everyone,

I have been experiencing the strangest thing while logged in to the = TTUMOO. I attempt to talk (say hi) and I get this response sequence

I don't understand that.
Try this instead:  say
<<I enter say and then it says>>
Please enter your statement and hit return.
<<I type some and hit enter.  Nothing.  I type a period = on a line by itself. Nothing.  I type and enter again and I get the next line.>>
I don't understand that.

I type "look" and get "I don't understand = that." 

When I hit the WHO button and LOOK button I get these = messages:

Who Browser = Error

Failed request was: GET = /who_browser/main.html HTTP/1.1
Details:

Traceback: =
#154:main_html, line 44:Property not =
found
... called from #32:get, line =
55
(End of =
traceback)

LOOK = error

Failed request was: GET /Xpress_client/display_user_location HTTP/1.1
Details:

Traceback: =
#147:display_user_location, line 14:Verb not =
found
... called from #32:get, line =
55
(End of traceback)
 
Oddly enough, it seemed to clear this  =
morning when I typed @go Main Entrance.  
After the @go command I could type say hi and =
it worked.   
 
I'm a wizard and it seems like it has =
something to do with my user level, 
because last night while in class inside TTU =
MOO I was the only one experiencing this
problem chatting.  I was able to login =
as a guest and chat fine.  
 
 
Any theories? This one has me =
baffled.
 
Thanks for any help you can =
provide.
 
 
Lennie

 

------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C61763.E6B39DD0-- From egoff@mindspring.com Fri Jan 13 05:51:51 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 13 Jan 2006 05:51:52 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBEB5BBB for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 05:51:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2F7462A for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 05:51:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15565-01-36 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 05:51:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6ABE3384 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 05:51:42 -0600 (CST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=Xidpn7sSvlFOVeGLFH/92ATmmSgdEioIdywVm41DdKuIWan5UF2n7dhmD+NuQAUn; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Importance:Disposition-Notification-To:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [69.250.78.202] (helo=master) by smtpauth06.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ExNT4-0006B6-69; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:51:42 -0500 From: "Edward Goff" To: , Subject: [encore] Re: Strange problem Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:48:34 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6180D.5FB867C0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-ELNK-Trace: 23f5b2bec61e6078d4c20f6b8d69d888dddb0c7b466da5828f66bda88df0dd94b734c694fc3ea158350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.250.78.202 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1560 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: egoff@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: egoff@mindspring.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6180D.5FB867C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a feature not a bug :P. Actually folks this was done/not done/undone at the citizens of lambdamoo's request. They have a container object that is actually a player class. Some of our unique programmers developed a way to be a player and have players in you. Makes for some interesting conversations to say the least. If you want to fix this you need to modify the verb(s) on your core that allow movement of the object to check if its a valid player flag and not allow it to enter anything but valid objects either via a list prop check or just descendents of $room. -----Original Message----- From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu]On Behalf Of Alexandre Borgia Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:35 AM To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Strange problem Hi Lennie! I experience this from time to time, it happens when your player is not located inside a valid room. This is why using @go to teleport you elsewhere fixed the problem. As for why this happened I cannot tell, but moving commands are not 100% error-proofed and for instance I think you can get inside an object that is not a room if you type "@go #". You probably did something like that by mistake. But there' s no worry about it, you can always use @go or @home to get back to a valid location! J - Alex -----Original Message----- From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] On Behalf Of Lennie Irvin Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:08 AM To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Strange problem Hey Everyone, I have been experiencing the strangest thing while logged in to the TTUMOO. I attempt to talk (say hi) and I get this response sequence I don't understand that. Try this instead: say <> Please enter your statement and hit return. <> I don't understand that. I type "look" and get "I don't understand that." When I hit the WHO button and LOOK button I get these messages: Who Browser Error Failed request was: GET /who_browser/main.html HTTP/1.1 Details: Traceback: #154:main_html, line 44:Property not found... called from #32:get, line 55(End of traceback)LOOK error Failed request was: GET /Xpress_client/display_user_location HTTP/1.1 Details: Traceback: #147:display_user_location, line 14:Verb not found... called from #32:get, line 55(End of traceback) Oddly enough, it seemed to clear this morning when I typed @go Main Entrance. After the @go command I could type say hi and it worked. I'm a wizard and it seems like it has something to do with my user level, because last night while in class inside TTU MOO I was the only one experiencing thisproblem chatting. I was able to login as a guest and chat fine. Any theories? This one has me baffled. Thanks for any help you can provide. Lennie ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6180D.5FB867C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This=20 is a feature not a bug :P.
 
Actually folks this was done/not done/undone at the citizens of = lambdamoo's request. They have a container object that is actually a = player=20 class. Some of our unique programmers developed a way to be a player and = have=20 players in you. Makes for some interesting conversations to say the = least.=20
 
If you=20 want to fix this you need to modify the verb(s) on your core that allow = movement=20 of the object to check if its a valid player flag and not allow it to = enter=20 anything but valid objects either via a list prop check or just = descendents of=20 $room.
-----Original Message-----
From: = encore-bounce@utdallas.edu=20 [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu]On Behalf Of Alexandre=20 Borgia
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:35 = AM
To:=20 encore@utdallas.edu
Subject: [encore] Re: Strange=20 problem

Hi=20 Lennie!

 

           = =20 I experience this from time to time, it happens when your player is = not=20 located inside a valid room.  This is why using @go to teleport = you=20 elsewhere fixed the problem.  As for why this happened I cannot = tell, but=20 moving commands are not 100% error-proofed and for instance I think = you can=20 get inside an object that is not a room if you type “@go = #<object=20 id>”.  You probably did something like that by = mistake.  But=20 there’s no worry about it, you can always use @go or @home to = get back to a=20 valid location! J

           =             &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;            = ;    =20

           = =20 - Alex

 

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] = On Behalf Of Lennie = Irvin
Sent:
Thursday,=20 January 12, 2006=20 10:08=20 AM
To: = encore@utdallas.edu
Subject: [encore] Strange=20 problem

 

Hey = Everyone,

I have=20 been experiencing the strangest thing while logged in to the TTUMOO. I = attempt=20 to talk (say hi) and I get this response sequence

I don't = understand=20 that.
Try this instead:  say
<<I enter say and then = it=20 says>>
Please enter your statement and hit = return.
<<I type=20 some and hit enter.  Nothing.  I type a period on a line by = itself.=20 Nothing.  I type and enter again and I get the next = line.>>
I=20 don't understand that.

I type "look" and get "I don't = understand=20 that." 

When I hit the WHO button and LOOK button I get = these=20 messages:

Who Browser=20 Error

Failed request was: GET=20 /who_browser/main.html HTTP/1.1
Details: =

Traceback: 
#154:main_html, line =
44:Property not found
... called from #32:get, line =
55
(End of =
traceback)

LOOK = error

Failed request was: GET=20 /Xpress_client/display_user_location HTTP/1.1
Details:=20

Traceback: 
#147:display_user_location, =
line 14:Verb not found
... called from #32:get, line =
55
(End of traceback)
 
Oddly enough, it seemed to =
clear this  morning when I typed @go Main Entrance.  =
After the @go command I could type say hi and it =
worked.   
 
I'm a wizard and it seems like =
it has something to do with my user level, 
because last night while in =
class inside TTU MOO I was the only one experiencing =
this
problem chatting.  I was able to login as a guest and chat =
fine.  
 
 
Any theories? This one has me baffled.
 
Thanks for any help you can =
provide.
 
 
Lennie

 

------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C6180D.5FB867C0-- From kevijeps@telusplanet.net Sat Jan 14 00:51:21 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:51:21 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB895DEF for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:51:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA34490A for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:51:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08265-01-8 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:51:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net (outbound01.telus.net [199.185.220.220]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6412DE6 for ; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:51:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from lilith ([66.222.244.176]) by priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with ESMTP id <20060114065110.UYVB26647.priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net@lilith> for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 23:51:10 -0700 From: "Kevin Jepson" To: Subject: [encore] Problems with enCore Program Editor inputs Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 23:51:10 -0700 Message-ID: <001801c618d6$e82f4dc0$640119ac@lilith> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01C6189C.3BD1FC60" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1561 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: kevijeps@telusplanet.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: kevijeps@telusplanet.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C6189C.3BD1FC60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Good Evening Folks =20 Grrrr... =20 I've run into a problem/bug with the enCore program editor in v4.0.1. =20 When I try to enter values for properties, that aren't text, they are = being stored as text strings with quotes. =20 For example an object number #22 is stored as \"#22\" but still = displayed as #22 in the editor !?! =20 Any verb using this property returns a type mismatch error. =20 I had cut and pasted a VERY long list (18K in fact) made up of 60 = records each composed of six other records, some of which were lists themselves. When complete EVERY RECORD WAS QUOTED as above! =20 Needless to say that list was pooched. =20 At least I hadn't typed it in myself. =20 I've run into this at two MOOs now, both enCore v4.0.1, my own and = Lennie's MOO at TTU. =20 =20 Maybe this is a known problem that I've never noticed because I usually = do my programming with TKMOO. =20 Has anybody else experienced this? =20 Is there a setting in the editor that assumes all input is text strings? =20 I would recommend being very cautious about editing in-MOO database like records using the enCore program editor. =20 Ciao KJ =20 P.S. If this has been discussed before my apologies for dragging it back = up. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Kevin Jepson R.E.T. President 4K Consulting Inc. =20 An't nanum hearm deth, doth hwaet ye willath. PHONE: (403) 875-8372 Email: kevijeps@telusplanet.net =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =20 =20 --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/228 - Release Date: = 12/01/2006 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C6189C.3BD1FC60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
 
Good = Evening=20 Folks
 
Grrrr...
 
I've = run into a=20 problem/bug with the enCore program editor in = v4.0.1.
 
When I = try to enter=20 values for properties, that aren't text, they are being stored as = text=20 strings with quotes.
 
For = example an=20 object number #22 is stored as \"#22\" but still displayed as #22 = in the=20 editor !?!
 
Any = verb using this=20 property returns a type mismatch error.
 
I had = cut and pasted=20 a VERY long list (18K in fact) made up of 60 records each composed = of six=20 other records, some of which were lists themselves. When complete=20 EVERY RECORD WAS QUOTED as above!
 
Needless to say that=20 list was pooched.
 
At = least I hadn't=20 typed it in myself.
 
I've = run into this=20 at two MOOs now, both enCore v4.0.1, my own and Lennie's MOO at=20 TTU.    
 
Maybe = this is a=20 known problem that I've never noticed because I usually do my = programming with=20 TKMOO.
 
Has = anybody else=20 experienced this?
 
Is = there a setting=20 in the editor that assumes all input is text = strings?
 
I = would recommend=20 being very cautious about editing in-MOO database like records using the = enCore=20 program editor.
 
Ciao
KJ
 
P.S. = If this has=20 been discussed before my apologies for dragging it back=20 up. 

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Kevin=20 Jepson R.E.T.
President
4K Consulting=20 Inc.           &nb= sp;        
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------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C6189C.3BD1FC60-- From Lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Sun Jan 15 09:47:13 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:47:14 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08A15BBB for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:47:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D85B20A7 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:47:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 10868-01-58 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:47:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id A8C812CB1 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:47:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from Gilgamesh.accdvm.accd.edu [10.1.11.51] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:47:08 CST Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.0.20060115094521.0277b740@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 09:47:05 -0600 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Lennie Irvin Subject: [encore] Re: Problems with enCore Program Editor inputs In-Reply-To: <001801c618d6$e82f4dc0$640119ac@lilith> References: <001801c618d6$e82f4dc0$640119ac@lilith> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_218513875==.ALT" X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1562 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore --=====================_218513875==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sorry this is giving you headaches Kevin. I seem to remember Daniel at one point in his programming for the new v5 of enCore working on revising the program editor. I'm not sure though. I think Daniel is on medical leave with some back problems, so he may not be listening to the list right now. Lennie At 12:51 AM 1/14/2006, Kevin Jepson wrote: > >Good Evening Folks > >Grrrr... > >I've run into a problem/bug with the enCore program editor in v4.0.1. > >When I try to enter values for properties, that aren't text, they >are being stored as text strings with quotes. > >For example an object number #22 is stored as \"#22\" but still >displayed as #22 in the editor !?! > >Any verb using this property returns a type mismatch error. > >I had cut and pasted a VERY long list (18K in fact) made up of 60 >records each composed of six other records, some of which were lists >themselves. When complete EVERY RECORD WAS QUOTED as above! > >Needless to say that list was pooched. > >At least I hadn't typed it in myself. > >I've run into this at two MOOs now, both enCore v4.0.1, my own and >Lennie's MOO at TTU. > >Maybe this is a known problem that I've never noticed because I >usually do my programming with TKMOO. > >Has anybody else experienced this? > >Is there a setting in the editor that assumes all input is text strings? > >I would recommend being very cautious about editing in-MOO database >like records using the enCore program editor. > >Ciao >KJ > >P.S. If this has been discussed before my apologies for dragging it back up. > >======================================================= >Kevin Jepson R.E.T. >President >4K Consulting Inc. >An't nanum hearm deth, doth hwaet ye willath. > >PHONE: (403) 875-8372 >Email: kevijeps@telusplanet.net >======================================================= > > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/228 - Release Date: 12/01/2006 --=====================_218513875==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Sorry this is giving you headaches Kevin.

I seem to remember Daniel at one point in his programming for the new v5 of enCore working on revising the program editor. I'm not sure though.  I think Daniel is on medical leave with some back problems, so he may not be listening to the list right now.

Lennie

At 12:51 AM 1/14/2006, Kevin Jepson wrote:
 
Good Evening Folks
 
Grrrr...
 
I've run into a problem/bug with the enCore program editor in v4.0.1.
 
When I try to enter values for properties, that aren't text, they are being stored as text strings with quotes.
 
For example an object number #22 is stored as \"#22\" but still displayed as #22 in the editor !?!
 
Any verb using this property returns a type mismatch error.
 
I had cut and pasted a VERY long list (18K in fact) made up of 60 records each composed of six other records, some of which were lists themselves. When complete EVERY RECORD WAS QUOTED as above!
 
Needless to say that list was pooched.
 
At least I hadn't typed it in myself.
 
I've run into this at two MOOs now, both enCore v4.0.1, my own and Lennie's MOO at TTU.  
 
Maybe this is a known problem that I've never noticed because I usually do my programming with TKMOO.
 
Has anybody else experienced this?
 
Is there a setting in the editor that assumes all input is text strings?
 
I would recommend being very cautious about editing in-MOO database like records using the enCore program editor.
 
Ciao
KJ
 
P.S. If this has been discussed before my apologies for dragging it back up.

=======================================================
Kevin Jepson R.E.T.
President
4K Consulting Inc.                   
An't nanum hearm deth, doth hwaet ye willath.

PHONE: (403) 875-8372
Email: kevijeps@telusplanet.net
=======================================================

 
 

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--=====================_218513875==.ALT-- From rozemar@gvsu.edu Sun Jan 15 13:24:17 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:24:17 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 597735BBB for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:24:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9105B20F2 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:24:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22468-01-16 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:24:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from gvsu.edu (gwise-a2.server.gvsu.edu [148.61.5.164]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F19A342C for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:24:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from SMTPDOM-MTA by gvsu.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:24:10 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.5 Beta Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:23:45 -0500 From: "Robert Rozema" To: "Lennie Irvin" , Subject: [encore] Re: Problems with enCore Program Editor inputs Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1563 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: rozemar@gvsu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: rozemar@gvsu.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Kevin, I have had the same problem. In the program editor, my solution is to make sure there are no spaces = after the number that I want saved as an integer. I just put the cursor = next to the number and hold down delete. When I save the property after = doing this, it typically saves as an integer and does not wrongly convert = to a string. I also have had luck creating the property on the text side. =20 Good luck. Robert Rozema English Dept. Grand Valley State University http://faculty.gvsu.edu/rozemar >>> Lennie Irvin 01/15/06 10:47 AM >>> Sorry this is giving you headaches Kevin. I seem to remember Daniel at one point in his programming for the new=20 v5 of enCore working on revising the program editor. I'm not sure=20 though. I think Daniel is on medical leave with some back problems,=20 so he may not be listening to the list right now. Lennie At 12:51 AM 1/14/2006, Kevin Jepson wrote: > >Good Evening Folks > >Grrrr... > >I've run into a problem/bug with the enCore program editor in v4.0.1. > >When I try to enter values for properties, that aren't text, they=20 >are being stored as text strings with quotes. > >For example an object number #22 is stored as \"#22\" but still=20 >displayed as #22 in the editor !?! > >Any verb using this property returns a type mismatch error. > >I had cut and pasted a VERY long list (18K in fact) made up of 60=20 >records each composed of six other records, some of which were lists=20 >themselves. When complete EVERY RECORD WAS QUOTED as above! > >Needless to say that list was pooched. > >At least I hadn't typed it in myself. > >I've run into this at two MOOs now, both enCore v4.0.1, my own and=20 >Lennie's MOO at TTU. > >Maybe this is a known problem that I've never noticed because I=20 >usually do my programming with TKMOO. > >Has anybody else experienced this? > >Is there a setting in the editor that assumes all input is text strings? > >I would recommend being very cautious about editing in-MOO database=20 >like records using the enCore program editor. > >Ciao >KJ > >P.S. If this has been discussed before my apologies for dragging it back = up. > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >Kevin Jepson R.E.T. >President >4K Consulting Inc. >An't nanum hearm deth, doth hwaet ye willath. > >PHONE: (403) 875-8372 >Email: kevijeps@telusplanet.net=20 >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/228 - Release Date: = 12/01/2006 From bmcman@optonline.net Sun Jan 15 16:24:39 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:24:39 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B46F5BDF for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:24:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675781BCC for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:24:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01463-01-85 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:24:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.203]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC152342C for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:24:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from optonline.net (ool-435781e4.dyn.optonline.net [67.87.129.228]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.03 (built Sep 22 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IT500DBCNKSNX00@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for encore@utdallas.edu; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:24:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:24:36 -0500 From: "Barbara F. McManus" Subject: [encore] global search of all object descriptions in database? To: encore@utdallas.edu Message-id: <43CACBA4.4030703@optonline.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1564 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: bmcman@optonline.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: bmcman@optonline.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Is it possible to do a global search of the description props of all objects in the MOO database? I am looking for all objects that contain a particular substring in their descriptions. If so, what is the code to perform this search? Thanks for any help you can give me. Best, Barbara -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Barbara F. McManus, Professor of Classics Emerita The College of New Rochelle, New Rochelle, NY 10805 Co-Director, The VRoma Project or http://www.cnr.edu/home/bmcmanus/ http://www.vroma.org/~bmcmanus/ From jung@uib.no Sun Jan 15 17:15:08 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:15:08 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F2C5BDD for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:15:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0E11DBE for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:15:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03919-01-29 for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:15:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from noralf.uib.no (noralf.uib.no [129.177.30.12]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66E1342C for ; Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:15:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from alfred.uib.no (smtp.uib.no) [129.177.30.120] by noralf.uib.no with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EyH5T-0001Yc-J3; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:15:04 +0100 Received: from 117.84-48-30.nextgentel.com ([10.24.104.19]) [84.48.30.117] by smtp.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EyH5T-0007Rl-C5; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:15:03 +0100 Message-ID: <43CAD7F6.1050700@uib.no> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:17:10 +0100 From: Daniel Jung User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: global search of all object descriptions in database? References: <43CACBA4.4030703@optonline.net> In-Reply-To: <43CACBA4.4030703@optonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on noralf X-Scanner: e2fa3586d4e84ec5b0c9cf7f3d24f025 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 0 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER Improper folded header field made up entirely of whitespace in message header 'X-UiB-SpamReport': X-archive-position: 1565 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jung@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jung@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Barbara F. McManus wrote: > Is it possible to do a global search of the description props of all > objects in the MOO database? I am looking for all objects that > contain > a particular substring in their descriptions. If so, what is the code > to perform this search? Thanks for any help you can give me. Best, This is an easy web form search query in v5. However, while you are waiting for it, I just cooked up a little text command you can try in your own MOO. Say the sequence you are looking for is "LOOKING GLASS". Paste this command into the command line (concatenate this to one line if it's broken down by the mail client): ;for o in [1..toint(max_object())] suspend(0); try if ($object_utils:has_property(o = toobj(o), "description")) if (typeof(desc = o.description) == LIST) desc = tostr(@desc); endif if ((typeof(desc) == STR) && (i = index(desc, search = "LOOKING GLASS"))) notify(me, $string_utils:nn(o), 1); me:tell("...", desc[max(1, i - 20)..min(length(desc), i + length(search) + 20)], "..."); me:tell(); endif endif except error (any) me:tell("ERROR at ", o); endtry endfor me:tell("Done with all objects."); Change the word "LOOKING GLASS" (found in the middle somewhere) to whatever you like. For convenience, I have thrown in a preview of the surrounding as well. Please let me know if you need anything else, or if you get an ERROR. - Daniel From kevijeps@telusplanet.net Mon Jan 16 10:47:00 2006 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:47:00 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E690A5BD1 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:46:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf2-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.14]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADACA1DF1 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:46:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf2.utdallas.edu [10.110.10.14]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05607-01-16 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:46:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net (outbound01.telus.net [199.185.220.220]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774C63384 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:46:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from lilith ([66.222.244.176]) by priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with ESMTP id <20060116164650.HBYI1003.priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net@lilith>; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:46:50 -0700 From: "Kevin Jepson" To: Cc: Subject: [encore] Re: Problems with enCore Program Editor inputs Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 09:46:49 -0700 Message-ID: <002501c61abc$723e7ef0$640119ac@lilith> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1566 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: kevijeps@telusplanet.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: kevijeps@telusplanet.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Robert That's it! Weird. There must be a space character in the input panel such that any input starts with a trailing space already there. Thanks Ciao KJ -----Original Message----- From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Rozema Sent: January 15, 2006 12:24 PM To: Lennie Irvin; encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Problems with enCore Program Editor inputs Kevin, I have had the same problem. In the program editor, my solution is to make sure there are no spaces = after the number that I want saved as an integer. I just put the cursor next = to the number and hold down delete. When I save the property after doing this, it typically saves as an integer and does not wrongly convert to a string. I also have had luck creating the property on the text side. =20 Good luck. Robert Rozema English Dept. Grand Valley State University http://faculty.gvsu.edu/rozemar >>> Lennie Irvin 01/15/06 10:47 AM >>> Sorry this is giving you headaches Kevin. I seem to remember Daniel at one point in his programming for the new=20 v5 of enCore working on revising the program editor. I'm not sure=20 though. I think Daniel is on medical leave with some back problems,=20 so he may not be listening to the list right now. Lennie At 12:51 AM 1/14/2006, Kevin Jepson wrote: > >Good Evening Folks > >Grrrr... > >I've run into a problem/bug with the enCore program editor in v4.0.1. > >When I try to enter values for properties, that aren't text, they >are being stored as text strings with quotes. > >For example an object number #22 is stored as \"#22\" but still >displayed as #22 in the editor !?! > >Any verb using this property returns a type mismatch error. > >I had cut and pasted a VERY long list (18K in fact) made up of 60 >records each composed of six other records, some of which were lists=20 >themselves. When complete EVERY RECORD WAS QUOTED as above! > >Needless to say that list was pooched. > >At least I hadn't typed it in myself. > >I've run into this at two MOOs now, both enCore v4.0.1, my own and >Lennie's MOO at TTU. > >Maybe this is a known problem that I've never noticed because I >usually do my programming with TKMOO. > >Has anybody else experienced this? > >Is there a setting in the editor that assumes all input is text=20 >strings? > >I would recommend being very cautious about editing in-MOO database >like records using the enCore program editor. > >Ciao >KJ > >P.S. If this has been discussed before my apologies for dragging it=20 >back up. > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >Kevin Jepson R.E.T. >President >4K Consulting Inc. >An't nanum hearm deth, doth hwaet ye willath. > >PHONE: (403) 875-8372 >Email: kevijeps@telusplanet.net >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/228 - Release Date:=20 >12/01/2006 --=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.18/230 - Release Date: = 14/01/2006 =20 --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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