From j.turner@qut.edu.au Mon Apr 4 23:41:40 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:41:41 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05B75BAD for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 23:41:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A3EE11 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 23:41:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00158-01-82 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 23:41:38 -0500 (CDT) X-Greylist: delayed 427 seconds by postgrey-1.18 at mx2; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 23:41:37 CDT Received: from mail-router02.qut.edu.au (mail-relay.qut.edu.au [131.181.254.10]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05583384 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 23:41:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail-msgstore01.qut.edu.au (mail-msgstore01-eth0.qut.edu.au [131.181.254.4]) by mail-router02.qut.edu.au (MOS 3.5.8-GR) with ESMTP id CPM09584; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:34:22 +1000 (EST) Received: from mail-msgstore01.qut.edu.au (localhost.qut.edu.au [127.0.0.1]) by mail-msgstore01.qut.edu.au (MOS 3.5.8-GR) with ESMTP id BNC44121; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:34:21 +1000 (EST) Received: from 147.10.84.109 by mail-msgstore01.qut.edu.au (MOS 3.5.8-GR) with HTTPS/1.1; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:34:21 +1000 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 14:34:21 +1000 From: "truna aka j.turner" Subject: [encore] anyone experiencing odd permissions on players? To: encore@utdallas.edu X-Mailer: Mirapoint Webmail Direct 3.5.8-GR MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Junkmail-Status: score=0/50, host=mail-router02.qut.edu.au X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1382 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: j.turner@qut.edu.au Precedence: bulk Reply-to: j.turner@qut.edu.au List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore greetings all ... lost cities upgraded to encore v4.0.1 last year and some strange but annoying glitches have been surfacing ... 1. my builders and programmers cannot edit their web background colour properties - everytime they try via the objects palette they get a 'permission denied' 2. the players cannot share objects - again 'permission denied' they can change all other options in the object palettes .. i can do it in wizard mode so my guess is something to do with player permissions but i haven't been able to find any reference to anything as specific as this! anyone else come across this? is it perhaps this particular version of encore? cheers in advance, love truna From cynthiah@utdallas.edu Tue Apr 5 02:57:40 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:57:40 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.5]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7423B5BAD for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 02:57:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (66.169.106.136.ts46v-02.mhe2.ftwrth.tx.charter.com [66.169.106.136]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1ED388C32; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 02:57:40 -0500 (CDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:57:24 -0500 Subject: [encore] Re: anyone experiencing odd permissions on players? From: Cynthia Haynes To: , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1383 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: cynthiah@utdallas.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cynthiah@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Truna, I can't speak to the problem about your builders and programmers being unable to edit web background color properties, but the shared objects issue is probably related to a security problem discovered with that feature. It's disabled at Lingua MOO for that reason, and I'm not sure where we are on fixing the security problem that would enable that feature to return. If others have resolved this and can shed light on the and/or the other problem, that would be great. Best, Cynthia __Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and Writing___________________ University of Texas at Dallas cynthiah@utdallas.edu School of Arts & Humanities http://www.utdallas.edu/~cynthiah PO Box 830688-JO 31 http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000 Richardson, TX 75083-0688 (O)972-883-6340 (F)972-883-2989 From jung@uib.no Wed Apr 6 08:25:52 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 06 Apr 2005 08:25:52 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9168C5BAD for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 08:25:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4289F103E for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 08:25:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25268-01-67 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 08:25:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noralf.uib.no (noralf.uib.no [129.177.30.12]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFA793430 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2005 08:25:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alfred.uib.no (smtp.uib.no) [129.177.30.120] by noralf.uib.no with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DJAXQ-0000lL-A3; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 15:25:45 +0200 Received: from hudubbing213087.klientdrift.uib.no [129.177.213.87] by smtp.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DJAXQ-0000Qb-4R; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 15:25:44 +0200 Message-ID: <4253E358.6020001@uib.no> Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 15:25:44 +0200 From: Daniel Jung User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Strategy for perms check References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on noralf X-Scanner: df21cdc531a38946a5202a9ed95a3b46 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: -9.0 hits, 11.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; -9.0 -- Message received from UIB X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1384 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jung@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jung@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Cynthia, hi all, Cynthia Haynes wrote: > I can't speak to the problem about your builders and programmers being > unable to edit web background color properties, but the shared objects issue > is probably related to a security problem discovered with that feature. Could you please expand on that (maybe privately, if the security issue hasn't been made public yet)? > It's > disabled at Lingua MOO for that reason, and I'm not sure where we are on > fixing the security problem that would enable that feature to return. Are there any other features turned off (to perms and/or security reasons) which were meant to be switched on? PERMS: $perm_utils:controls (and -_verb|-_prop) is a great thing, though it seems to me that it isn't used (to bundle this function) as much as it could, and should. This has bugged me for a long time. I think most of the Program Editor perms checks (and elsewhere) should go through there, and we should expand the check on the $perm_utils to include shared owners where appropriate or applicable. Ie., when a property is owned by the object or the object's owner, the object's shared owners should be able to control it as well. But when the property is owned by someone other than the object or the object's owner (plus is writable), it shouldn't be writable for shared owners either. That would mean to take the notion of shared ownership one step closer to the core, where it belongs. Aside: It's a weird thing (though understandable) that shared owner related stuff can be done in Xpress, but not in the MOO command parser... I think I am going to implement this, but I want to ask if you guys have any objections (or input) on this one. Thanks, - Daniel From lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Thu Apr 7 11:37:49 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:37:49 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6655BDC for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:37:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3586A1433 for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:37:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20462-01-19 for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:37:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D1D43459 for ; Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:37:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gh-208-300633.accdvm.accd.edu [10.11.36.41] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:36:41 CDT Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050407113213.01d5ba18@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:32:51 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Lennie Irvin Subject: [encore] enCore Consortium Development Projects Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_10627468==.ALT" X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1385 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore --=====================_10627468==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Coming Together to Move Forward Hello Friends, The mission of the enCore Consortium is not only to promote enCore development but to try and coordinate it. What I am sending you now is the Steering Committee's effort to coordinate the efforts of the enCore Consortium members and enCore community. We invite you to participate with your own special knowledge and experience where you feel you can and where you are especially interested. Our goal is to form teams to work on specific projects. I will try to outline the general goals of each project, so you can see what will be involved. The general orientation for all these projects is to support the release of the new enCore version 5 (tentatively set for an August 2005 release date). Please look over this list of projects, and email me at Lirvin@accd.edu if you see a project you would like to be a part of. ************************************************************ enCore Consortium Development Projects (2005) enCore Documentation Project --April-August 2005 (and beyond) This project will work on creating help documentation for enCore v5. It is a large, ambitious project that has many sub-projects within it --single-source documentation solution for enCore User's Guide v5 --the new User's Guide will include an updated enCore Administrator's guide --new installation/backup/update/move guide --new guide for teaching with enCore (I envision creating a enCore Pedagogy Wiki so it is organic and easily open to submissions) --creation of an enCore programming textbook (or MOO programming textbook) that could be used by Computer Science classes in programming For more information please see the website set up already for this project http://encore-consortium.org/Documentation/ enCore Interactivity Project --April-July 2005 The goal of this project is to enhance enCore's ability to facilitate virtual reality and play. It may involve some gathering and sorting of objects created in other moos that we may want to incorporate into the enCore group of generics. These could be play/virtual reality objects like an object or it could be other objects like porting in Wilson's everything-in-one room. It may also be the gathering or even creating of verbs that could be applied to certain objects--like event aware rooms. enCore Graphics Library Project --April-July 2005 This project will collect a library of copy write free graphics that we can have as an easily accessible starting point for students to incorporate graphics into their building. I suppose it is possible to include graphics we create too. enCore Grant Writers Project --April-Dec. 2005 The goal of this group will be first to position the enCore Consortium so that it is able to credibly make grant proposals (we are already close, but more work needs to be done). Then this project will begin creating grant requests to targeted foundations, corporations, or institutions. These grants will be the future life blood for enCore development, so if you have any expertise with grants and grant writing, we need you. enCore Special Initiatives Project This project is really a subset of the grant writing project. This work will entail collecting information on special initiatives like the very large LINGO Project that Daniel Jung supports in Norway and other countries, or Project Achieve or Ron Broglio's Romantic Circles--these are special projects that use or propose to use enCore. Through developing a relationship with these special enCore initiatives, hopefully a symbiotic relationship can emerge: the participation of these initiatives in the enCore Consortium will help the Consortium secure significant grant funding for its larger program development; conversely, participation by these initiatives in the enCore Consortium enhances these initiative's ability to secure funding for their particular work (perhaps even through the Consortium grants). *********************************************************** I know all of you are very busy people, particularly now. But I seriously ask you to consider devoting some time to work on one of these projects. The more of us who come together to work on these projects the better. I encourage you also to recruit others to join the enCore Consortium and to join these projects. Perhaps you teach at a University with graduate students, and you know one student who has expressed some interest in enCore. You could urge him or her to join. Or perhaps there is another teacher at your school who you think should join. The whole notion of the enCore Consortium is about coming together to accomplish things we would not be able to do alone. So sign up now by emailing me at Lirvin@accd.edu with the project you would like to be a part of. Sincerely Yours, Lennie Irvin President, enCore Consortium On behalf of the enCore Consortium Steering Committee Barbara McManus, Treasurer Dene Grigar, Secretary Rhonna Robbins-Sponaas Cynthia Haynes Daniel Jung Jeffrey Schneider --=====================_10627468==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" 
Coming Together to Move Forward

Hello Friends,

The mission of the enCore Consortium is not only to promote enCore
development but to try and coordinate it.  What I am sending you now
is the Steering Committee's effort to coordinate the efforts of the
enCore Consortium members and enCore community. We invite you to
participate with your own special knowledge and experience where you feel
you can and where you are especially interested.  

Our goal is to form teams to work on specific projects.  I will try
to outline the general goals of each project, so you can see what will be
involved.  The general orientation for all these projects is to
support the release of the new enCore version 5 (tentatively set for an
August 2005 release date).  Please look over this list of projects,
and email me at Lirvin@accd.edu if
you see a project you would like to be a part of.


************************************************************
enCore Consortium Development Projects (2005)

enCore Documentation Project --April-August 2005 (and beyond)
This project will work on creating help documentation for enCore
v5.  It is a large, ambitious project that has many sub-projects
within it
--single-source documentation solution for enCore User's Guide v5
--the new User's Guide will include an updated enCore Administrator's
guide
--new installation/backup/update/move guide
--new guide for teaching with enCore (I envision creating a enCore
Pedagogy Wiki so it is organic and easily open to submissions)
--creation of an enCore programming textbook (or MOO programming
textbook) that could be used by Computer Science classes in programming

For more information please see the website set up already for this
project

http://encore-consortium.org/Documentation/ 

enCore Interactivity Project --April-July 2005
The goal of this project is to enhance enCore's ability to facilitate
virtual reality and play.  It may involve some gathering and sorting
of objects created in other moos that we may want to incorporate into the
enCore group of generics. These could be play/virtual reality objects
like an object or it could be other objects like porting in Wilson's
everything-in-one room.  It may also be the gathering or even
creating of verbs that could be applied to certain objects--like event
aware rooms. 

enCore Graphics Library Project  --April-July 2005
This project will collect a library of copy write free graphics that
we can have as an easily accessible starting point for students to
incorporate graphics into their building.  I suppose it is possible
to include graphics we create too.  

enCore Grant Writers Project   --April-Dec. 2005
The goal of this group will be first to position the enCore
Consortium so that it is able to credibly make grant proposals (we are
already close, but more work needs to be done).  Then this project
will begin creating grant requests to targeted foundations, corporations,
or institutions. 

These grants will be the future life blood for enCore development, so if
you have any expertise with grants and grant writing, we need you.
 
enCore Special Initiatives Project
This project is really a subset of the grant writing project. 
This work will entail collecting information on special initiatives like
the very large LINGO Project that Daniel Jung supports in Norway and
other countries, or Project Achieve or Ron Broglio's Romantic
Circles--these are special projects that use or propose to use
enCore.  

Through developing a relationship with these special enCore initiatives,
hopefully a symbiotic relationship can emerge: the participation of these
initiatives in the enCore Consortium will help the Consortium secure
significant grant funding for its larger program development; conversely,
participation by these initiatives in the enCore Consortium enhances
these initiative's ability to secure funding for their particular work
(perhaps even through the Consortium grants).    
***********************************************************
I know all of you are very busy people, particularly now.  But I seriously ask you to consider devoting some time to work on one of these projects.  The more of us who come together to work on these projects the better.
 
I encourage you also to recruit others to join the enCore Consortium and to join these projects.  Perhaps you teach at a University with graduate students, and you know one student who has expressed some interest in enCore.  You could urge him or her to join.  Or perhaps there is another teacher at your school who you think should join. 
 
The whole notion of the enCore Consortium is about coming together to accomplish things we would not be able to do alone.   So sign up now by emailing me at Lirvin@accd.edu with the project you would like to be a part of.
 
 
Sincerely Yours,
 
Lennie Irvin
President, enCore Consortium
 
On behalf of the enCore Consortium Steering Committee
Barbara McManus, Treasurer
Dene Grigar, Secretary
Rhonna Robbins-Sponaas
Cynthia Haynes
Daniel Jung
Jeffrey Schneider

 
--=====================_10627468==.ALT-- From jdeshpan@masaka.cs.ohiou.edu Wed Apr 13 02:05:29 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:05:30 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A965BCC for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:05:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C121B38 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:05:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12585-01-78 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:05:25 -0500 (CDT) X-Greylist: delayed 831 seconds by postgrey-1.18 at mx2; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:05:25 CDT Received: from masaka.cs.ohiou.edu (masaka.cs.ohiou.edu [132.235.3.154]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235B2344D for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:05:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from masaka.cs.ohiou.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by masaka.cs.ohiou.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.8) with ESMTP id j3D6pYjO012232 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:51:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from jdeshpan@localhost) by masaka.cs.ohiou.edu (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/Submit) id j3D6pYSW012231 for encore@utdallas.edu; Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:51:34 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 02:51:34 -0400 From: JAy Deshpande To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Encore/MOOtcan Query Message-ID: <20050413065134.GA12028@masaka.cs.ohiou.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1386 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jdeshpan@masaka.cs.ohiou.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jdeshpan@masaka.cs.ohiou.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reply-Toe jdeshpan@masaka.cs.ohiou.edu X-PGP-Key: http://www.ent.ohiou.edu/~jayram/pubkey.asc Hi , I am a newb trying to understand how the who moo works. I have couple of questions which i hope belong to this list . if these questions don't belong here please direct me to proper group. here's what i have.. 1. without changing the default resolution if we try to resize=20 the window then the pipe gets broken on the MOOtcan side .and then=20 gui and applet can't communicate as we get IOException. here's some of the debugging output ...=20 va.io.IOException: Read end dead at java.io.PipedInputStream.receive(Unknown Source) at java.io.PipedOutputStream.write(Unknown Source) at java.io.DataOutputStream.writeBytes(Unknown Source) at CommandTextField.sendIssuedCommand(CommandTextField.java:138) at CommandTextField.issueCommand(CommandTextField.java:196) at CommandTextField.keyDown(CommandTextField.java:221) at java.awt.Component.handleEvent(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Component.postEvent(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Component.postEvent(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source) at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source) =2E =2E =2E i couldn't dig out these errors . is it like , i have to upgrade my client to better version as this source= =20 probably uses java.1.1 or somebody has already patched it before.. this goes away after setting the resolution thr' the option tab. Even resizing the frames fails to refresh the them.=20 Thanx in advance for your help . hope to get some feedback to that i can come back with more questions :-) Best, JAy P.S. I wasn't able to access mailing list archives . am i missing somethin= g. --=20 "Not condemning knowledge known to be wrong is more sinful than not having right knowledge.The perception of absence of proof is no proof of proof's absence. " - Ish'Av'Asya Upanishad ------------------------------------------------------------ Deshpande Jayram A. http://www.ent.ohiou.edu/~jayram ------------------------------------------------------------ --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (SunOS) iD8DBQFCXMF0XDbUDHekbqQRAjFtAJ9reGGwEDXS1IqkVtypCfRQnJHLtQCghbgc Hciu9U2+xLrxTgQQxO86QxE= =poyj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s-- From rozemar@gvsu.edu Sun Apr 17 10:19:13 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:19:13 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047735BAD for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:19:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA45D39 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:19:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21363-01-56 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:19:07 -0500 (CDT) X-Greylist: delayed 1240 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at mx2; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:19:07 CDT Received: from gvsu.edu (gwise-a2.server.gvsu.edu [148.61.5.164]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1B83392 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:19:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from SMTPDOM-MTA by gvsu.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:58:24 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.5 Beta Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 10:57:57 -0400 From: "Robert Rozema" To: , Subject: [encore] Xpress Program Editor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1387 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: rozemar@gvsu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: rozemar@gvsu.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore I'm getting the following error when I use the Xpress editor to try to = program:=20 there is an error with the Xpress program editor: error: verb not found. I have run into this before; since I rely on the program editor to = program, I've had to create three new wizards for myself. Each one, in = turn, runs into this problem! Any suggestions? Robert Rozema English Dept. Grand Valley State University http://faculty.gvsu.edu/rozemar From kevijeps@telusplanet.net Sun Apr 17 16:02:30 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:02:30 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4698A5BAD for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:02:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED46DC4E for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:02:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07759-01-4 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:02:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net (outbound01.telus.net [199.185.220.220]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89384343E for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:02:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lilith ([137.186.225.85]) by priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050417210223.QPZO7918.priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net@lilith> for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:02:23 -0600 From: "Kevin Jepson" To: Subject: [encore] Xpress issues with version 4.0.1 IE and Firefox Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:02:18 -0600 Message-ID: <006601c54390$be922e90$640119ac@lilith> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0067_01C5435E.73F7BE90" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.084 tagged_above=1 required=8 tests=AWL, BAYES_50, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TEXT_AFTER_BODY, HTML_TEXT_AFTER_HTML X-Spam-Level: * X-archive-position: 1388 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: kevijeps@telusplanet.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: kevijeps@telusplanet.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C5435E.73F7BE90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Folks I have not been using the enCore Xpress interface because of issues with some of the key objects on my MOO. (They are pseudo room objects that = lack the _html verbs needed to display properly) =20 I have been using MOOTCAN in a web browser frame with the other frame displaying web content and it has worked very well. Using both IE and FireFox so MOOTCAN is working. =20 For fun I decided to try and get the Xpress system to work with my MOO. Before doing so I wanted to make sure that Xpress was working and = discovered the following. =20 My MOO version is 4.0.1 =20 When I try to login using IE, I can do so but the CPU utilization goes = up to 100% while the web frame is updating, this essentially locks up my PC. = I also get this behaviour at LINGUA MOO as well. =20 It appears that this 100% utilization only happens from version 4.0.1. ALAMOO version 3.3.3 doesn't exhibit this problem. =20 When I try to login with FireFox however I only get a blank screen! I can browse OK or Telnet from the Login screen just fine but only a = blank page shows up from Xpress. There is a Java error which follows: =20 Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure = code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIDOMWindowInternal.focus]" nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: :: onload :: line 0" data: no] =20 This also occurs at LINGUA, but again NOT at ALAMOO so it seems to be version related. =20 Anybody have any suggestions on what is happening here? =20 Ciao KJ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Kevin Jepson R.E.T. President 4K Consulting Inc. =20 An't nanum hearm deth, doth hwaet ye willath. Email: HYPERLINK "mailto:kevijeps@nospam_telusplanet.net"kevijeps@nospam_telusplanet.net =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 16/04/2005 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C5435E.73F7BE90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
 
Folks
I have = not been=20 using the enCore Xpress interface because of issues with some of the key = objects=20 on my MOO. (They are pseudo room objects that lack the _html verbs = needed to=20 display properly)
 
I have = been using=20 MOOTCAN in a web browser frame with the other frame displaying web = content and=20 it has worked very well. Using both IE and FireFox so MOOTCAN is=20 working.
 
For = fun I decided to=20 try and get the Xpress system to work with my MOO.
Before = doing so I=20 wanted to make sure that Xpress was working and discovered the=20 following.
 
My MOO = version=20 is 4.0.1
 
When I = try to login=20 using IE, I can do so but the CPU utilization goes up to 100% while the = web=20 frame is updating, this essentially locks up my PC.  I also get = this=20 behaviour at LINGUA MOO as well.
 
It = appears that this=20 100% utilization only happens from version 4.0.1.  ALAMOO version = 3.3.3=20 doesn't exhibit this problem.
 
When I = try to login=20 with FireFox however I only get a blank screen!
I can = browse OK or=20 Telnet from the Login screen just fine but only a blank page shows up = from=20 Xpress.
There = is a Java=20 error which follows:
 
Error: = uncaught=20 exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005=20 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIDOMWindowInternal.focus]"  nsresult: = "0x80004005=20 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)"  location: "JS frame :: <unknown = filename> ::=20 onload :: line 0"  data: no]
 
This = also occurs at=20 LINGUA, but again NOT at ALAMOO so it seems to be version=20 related.
 
Anybody have=20 any suggestions on what is happening here?
 
Ciao
KJ

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Kevin=20 Jepson R.E.T.
President
4K Consulting=20 Inc.           &nb= sp;        
An't=20 nanum hearm deth, doth hwaet ye willath.
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------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C5435E.73F7BE90-- From kevijeps@telusplanet.net Sun Apr 17 16:22:39 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:22:39 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397A05BAD for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:22:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA448C7D for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:22:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05655-01-55 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:22:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from priv-edtnes40.telusplanet.net (outbound05.telus.net [199.185.220.224]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67EAF344E for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 16:22:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lilith ([137.186.225.85]) by priv-edtnes40.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.00 201-2131-118-20041027) with ESMTP id <20050417212230.PJUO27855.priv-edtnes40.telusplanet.net@lilith> for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:22:30 -0600 From: "Kevin Jepson" To: Subject: [encore] Re: Xpress issues with version 4.0.1 IE and Firefox Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 15:22:25 -0600 Message-ID: <006d01c54393$8defe590$640119ac@lilith> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006E_01C54361.43557590" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 In-Reply-To: <006601c54390$be922e90$640119ac@lilith> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.252 tagged_above=1 required=8 tests=AWL, BAYES_50, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST, HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TEXT_AFTER_BODY, HTML_TEXT_AFTER_HTML X-Spam-Level: * X-archive-position: 1389 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: kevijeps@telusplanet.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: kevijeps@telusplanet.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C54361.43557590 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oops Did some more checking and the 100% CPU utilization issue does occur = with IE at ALAMOO but NOT with FireFox. Ciao KJ -----Original Message----- From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] On Behalf Of Kevin Jepson Sent: April 17, 2005 3:02 PM To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Xpress issues with version 4.0.1 IE and Firefox =20 Folks I have not been using the enCore Xpress interface because of issues with some of the key objects on my MOO. (They are pseudo room objects that = lack the _html verbs needed to display properly) =20 I have been using MOOTCAN in a web browser frame with the other frame displaying web content and it has worked very well. Using both IE and FireFox so MOOTCAN is working. =20 For fun I decided to try and get the Xpress system to work with my MOO. Before doing so I wanted to make sure that Xpress was working and = discovered the following. =20 My MOO version is 4.0.1 =20 When I try to login using IE, I can do so but the CPU utilization goes = up to 100% while the web frame is updating, this essentially locks up my PC. = I also get this behaviour at LINGUA MOO as well. =20 It appears that this 100% utilization only happens from version 4.0.1. ALAMOO version 3.3.3 doesn't exhibit this problem. =20 When I try to login with FireFox however I only get a blank screen! I can browse OK or Telnet from the Login screen just fine but only a = blank page shows up from Xpress. There is a Java error which follows: =20 Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure = code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIDOMWindowInternal.focus]" nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: :: onload :: line 0" data: no] =20 This also occurs at LINGUA, but again NOT at ALAMOO so it seems to be version related. =20 Anybody have any suggestions on what is happening here? =20 Ciao KJ =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Kevin Jepson R.E.T. President 4K Consulting Inc. =20 An't nanum hearm deth, doth hwaet ye willath. Email: HYPERLINK "mailto:kevijeps@nospam_telusplanet.net"kevijeps@nospam_telusplanet.net =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 16/04/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 16/04/2005 --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.15 - Release Date: 16/04/2005 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C54361.43557590 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Oops
Did=20 some more checking and the 100% CPU utilization issue does occur with IE = at=20 ALAMOO but NOT with FireFox.
Ciao
KJ
-----Original Message-----
From:=20 encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] On = Behalf Of=20 Kevin Jepson
Sent: April 17, 2005 3:02 PM
To:=20 encore@utdallas.edu
Subject: [encore] Xpress issues with = version=20 4.0.1 IE and Firefox

 
Folks
I = have not been=20 using the enCore Xpress interface because of issues with some of the = key=20 objects on my MOO. (They are pseudo room objects that lack the _html = verbs=20 needed to display properly)
 
I = have been using=20 MOOTCAN in a web browser frame with the other frame displaying web = content and=20 it has worked very well. Using both IE and FireFox so MOOTCAN is=20 working.
 
For = fun I decided=20 to try and get the Xpress system to work with my = MOO.
Before doing so I=20 wanted to make sure that Xpress was working and discovered the=20 following.
 
My = MOO version=20 is 4.0.1
 
When = I try to=20 login using IE, I can do so but the CPU utilization goes up to 100% = while the=20 web frame is updating, this essentially locks up my PC.  I also = get this=20 behaviour at LINGUA MOO as well.
 
It = appears that=20 this 100% utilization only happens from version 4.0.1.  ALAMOO = version=20 3.3.3 doesn't exhibit this problem.
 
When = I try to=20 login with FireFox however I only get a blank = screen!
I = can browse OK or=20 Telnet from the Login screen just fine but only a blank page shows up = from=20 Xpress.
There is a Java=20 error which follows:
 
Error: uncaught=20 exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005=20 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIDOMWindowInternal.focus]"  nsresult: = "0x80004005=20 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)"  location: "JS frame :: <unknown = filename> ::=20 onload :: line 0"  data: no]
 
This = also occurs=20 at LINGUA, but again NOT at ALAMOO so it seems to be version=20 related.
 
Anybody have=20 any suggestions on what is happening here?
 
Ciao
KJ

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Kevin Jepson=20 R.E.T.
President
4K Consulting=20 = Inc.           &nb= sp;        
An't=20 nanum hearm deth, doth hwaet ye willath.
Email: kevijeps@nospam_telusplanet.net
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------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C54361.43557590-- From rozemar@gvsu.edu Sun Apr 17 20:48:31 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:48:31 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062F45BAD for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:48:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF96BD0 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:48:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 17973-01 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:48:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gvsu.edu (gwise-a2.server.gvsu.edu [148.61.5.164]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE132344D for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 20:48:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from SMTPDOM-MTA by gvsu.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:48:24 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.5 Beta Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 21:48:10 -0400 From: "Robert Rozema" To: , , Subject: [encore] Re: Xpress Program Editor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1390 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: rozemar@gvsu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: rozemar@gvsu.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore I should add that I am running encore/Xpress version 3.3.3. =20 Robert Rozema English Dept. Grand Valley State University http://faculty.gvsu.edu/rozemar >>> "Robert Rozema" 04/17/05 10:57 AM >>> I'm getting the following error when I use the Xpress editor to try to = program:=20 there is an error with the Xpress program editor: error: verb not found. I have run into this before; since I rely on the program editor to = program, I've had to create three new wizards for myself. Each one, in = turn, runs into this problem! Any suggestions? Robert Rozema English Dept. Grand Valley State University http://faculty.gvsu.edu/rozemar=20