From cindy.franco@Vanderbilt.Edu Wed Nov 3 12:43:46 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 03 Nov 2004 12:43:46 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97A645BAD for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:43:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE2F2B77 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:43:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16710-01-94 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:43:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailbe05.mc.vanderbilt.edu (mailbe05.mc.Vanderbilt.Edu [160.129.50.175]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DD439F6 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:43:39 -0600 (CST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [encore] Quota logs? Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 12:43:35 -0600 Message-ID: <64E9EC876CBE26419EE90810615CE22811AB85@mailbe05.mc.vanderbilt.edu> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Quota logs? Thread-Index: AcQ+vkB1Ntdz+UWkQDeRvIXYtKNmAiDFpN6w From: "Franco, Cindy" To: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1244 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: cindy.franco@Vanderbilt.Edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cindy.franco@Vanderbilt.Edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hello- Does anyone know how I can (easily) pull the quota logs for the MOO users? =20 Hope this makes sense, Cindy Cindy Franco, OAK Manager Director, iaLab Office of Innovation through Technology Vanderbilt University 511 Kirkland Hall Phone: 615.343.5179 Fax: 615.322.6844 From jung@uib.no Wed Nov 3 14:05:33 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 03 Nov 2004 14:05:33 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170885BAD for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:05:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E343C295E for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:05:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01211-01 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:05:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from noralf.uib.no (noralf.uib.no [129.177.30.12]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B3739F8 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:05:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from alfred.uib.no (smtp.uib.no) [129.177.30.120] by noralf.uib.no with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CPRNY-0000aq-7O; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 21:05:13 +0100 Received: from tunnel-45-25.vpn.uib.no [129.177.45.25] by smtp.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CPRNW-0004iH-Fb; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 21:05:12 +0100 Message-ID: <418939F5.5070805@uib.no> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 21:05:09 +0100 From: Daniel Jung User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Quota logs? References: <64E9EC876CBE26419EE90810615CE22811AB85@mailbe05.mc.vanderbilt.edu> In-Reply-To: <64E9EC876CBE26419EE90810615CE22811AB85@mailbe05.mc.vanderbilt.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on noralf X-Scanner: 673a2e372bdd76f4937ab37462143a70 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 0.0 hits, 11.0 required X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1245 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jung@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jung@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Franco, Cindy wrote: > Does anyone know how I can (easily) pull the quota logs for the MOO > users? Depends on what you mean with "log"; the latest status or the changes to the quota. (1) To retrieve the quota _change_, you can read the $quota_log (as a mailbox). This is chronologial. As far as I know, there is presently no tool to sort these changes by name, number or size. (2) To retrieve the quota _size_ itself, do the following two steps. Type (one line): eval for p in ($object_utils:descendants($builder)) suspend(0); me:tell("@measure new ", p); endfor Take the output produced and paste all of it at once into the command line, then hit return. This measures the quota. The automatic counting doesn't work well, and this way, you start with a freshly counted list. Disregard the output after this, you don't need it. Next, type eval for p in ($object_utils:descendants($builder)) suspend(0); me:tell("@quota ", p); endfor Take the output and paste all of it at once into the command line, then hit return. This gives you the quota of each player. *** I _guess_ you want give each existing player more (or: enough) quota. I guess you want to find out whose quota needs to be augmented, and that's why you asked the question. If this is true, you might consider to augment the (ridiculously low) default quota size for future players as well, so you won't have to always do this manually after builders run into E_QUOTA and send you emails on Sunday night like "HELP... I don't understand this... It says I'm out of quota... But I have a paper to submit and it's due tomorrow morning... Has it something to do with my password?... What do I do?...", you get my drift. (1) The default value first. Type eval $quota_utils.default_quota which should return => {50000, 0, 0, 1} Now change the first number in the list. Be careful not to mess up the list. Do this: @setprop $quota_utils.default_quota to {500000, 0, 0, 1} This augments the initial quota by factor 10. You can specify anything you want here, you can augment it by factor 100 if you want to as well. (2) Next, give the existing players enough space. You don't really need to check who is near the out-of-quota-limit, you can batch everyone. You might do it like this: eval for p in ($object_utils:descendants($builder)) suspend(0); if ((q = p.size_quota[1]) < 500000) me:tell("@quota ", p.name, " is 500000"); else me:tell("\"(", p.name, " had already a quota of ", q, ")"); endif endfor Change the two places where it says '500000' to what you set it to in the default_quota value above. Paste, run. Take the output, paste, run. It will only set the builders with the inferior quota, and will not touch the others. (All this will be so much easier soon.) Hope this helps, good luck - Daniel From jung@uib.no Wed Nov 3 14:41:51 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 03 Nov 2004 14:41:51 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B00AC5BAD for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:41:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60BAA2663 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:41:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05665-01-72 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:41:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from noralf.uib.no (noralf.uib.no [129.177.30.12]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB52739F0 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:41:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from alfred.uib.no (smtp.uib.no) [129.177.30.120] by noralf.uib.no with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CPRwv-0003Sm-Qn; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 21:41:46 +0100 Received: from tunnel-45-25.vpn.uib.no [129.177.45.25] by smtp.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CPRwv-0004n1-B4; Wed, 03 Nov 2004 21:41:45 +0100 Message-ID: <41894288.9000601@uib.no> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 21:41:44 +0100 From: Daniel Jung User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Quota logs? References: <64E9EC876CBE26419EE90810615CE22811AB85@mailbe05.mc.vanderbilt.edu> In-Reply-To: <64E9EC876CBE26419EE90810615CE22811AB85@mailbe05.mc.vanderbilt.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on noralf X-Scanner: c98dbe732e5c7585b34e3fe13743f262 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 0.0 hits, 11.0 required X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1246 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jung@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jung@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Franco, Cindy wrote: > Does anyone know how I can (easily) pull the quota logs for the MOO > users? Here's a little tool. To retrieve log _changes_ alphabetically by players, do this: eval for m in ($list_utils:sort_alist($list_utils:slice($quota_log.messages, 2), 4)) suspend(0); me:tell(len = m[4][8..$], $string_utils:space(40-length(len)), ctime(m[1])); endfor - Daniel From kris.olson.au@gmail.com Thu Nov 11 22:30:54 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:30:55 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91AF25BAD for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:30:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5654E513C for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:30:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19731-01-6 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:30:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC9339F4 for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:30:52 -0600 (CST) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so428128rne for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:30:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Npp7m5AdiOpKzfl2Mya43286G1tejJEvwR8aCKXg6VsZcSfbWJT4gwNXZkv7qhL3nLp/PzhHvQh//FVTUrca9WyFjUkrdWsL7aWyR7JltWPWWXFWfR91/inO3YyxsO/TENm8oR18LBeSER6vCb17OUtlaH+QeMC+C/pi6Os8jX8= Received: by 10.38.72.73 with SMTP id u73mr549762rna; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:30:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.125.14 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 20:30:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3dce001b041111203014eacefd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:30:52 +0800 From: Kris Olson To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] trying to set up MOO Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1247 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: kris.olson.au@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: kris.olson.au@gmail.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hello everyone I am trying to set up a MOO at school. We have loaded the software. However, the left hand portion of the web page does not load correctly. We get the please wait message in the right hand window. I know that the two most common problems are java applet problems and port problems. I have gone to the Java site and found a test for the Java. If you see the little animation, then it is okay. The technician doing the installing can see the little animation. So I figure it must be a port problem. How can I be definitely sure what the cause of the problem is? (The technician swears that all ports are open) -- Kris Olson Geraldton Senior College Head of Business and Computing Area 61-8-9965-8443 (W) 61-8-9965-0317 (H) From milokp@gmail.com Fri Nov 12 09:56:41 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:56:41 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67CD75BAD for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:56:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B87C28 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:56:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16926-01-53 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:56:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C895934CC for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:56:39 -0600 (CST) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so474374rne for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:56:39 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=RxEwPkn45oEwReEU6+YS0yZ6GmVfR8g0yfSCGXNIriAlYqt5M7kcaCnvc5KweBYxIiL5oCWKhtorOpmOj648Sh3laW3b0ZHaELLXwFizy2WmWoKdOK20XMs5Ejfcd7ScvrDf4sPfoHvUNszcJtL8GoOz9eCxHZqsH4gyE0Ru0AE= Received: by 10.38.71.17 with SMTP id t17mr892986rna; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:56:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.72.25 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 07:56:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:56:38 -0500 From: Milo Pschigoda To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: trying to set up MOO In-Reply-To: <3dce001b041111203014eacefd@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <3dce001b041111203014eacefd@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1248 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: milokp@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: milokp@gmail.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore I think I'd first chech the Mootcan applet and an actual telnet client, correct me if I'm wrong, but if those can get through then the ports are fine. If those work then I'd check the client computers "Internet security settings" or try another browser. MilesP On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:30:52 +0800, Kris Olson wrote: > Hello everyone > > I am trying to set up a MOO at school. We have loaded the software. > However, the left hand portion of the web page does not load > correctly. We get the please wait message in the right hand window. > > I know that the two most common problems are java applet problems and > port problems. I have gone to the Java site and found a test for the > Java. If you see the little animation, then it is okay. The > technician doing the installing can see the little animation. So I > figure it must be a port problem. > > How can I be definitely sure what the cause of the problem is? (The > technician swears that all ports are open) > > -- > Kris Olson > Geraldton Senior College > Head of Business and Computing Area > 61-8-9965-8443 (W) > 61-8-9965-0317 (H) > > From juergen@fiedlerfamily.net Sat Nov 13 03:44:24 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 13 Nov 2004 03:44:25 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C46A5BC6 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 03:44:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDA94738 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 03:44:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29434-01-35 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 03:44:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail.fiedlerfamily.net (dslcv1-455.fast.net [209.92.41.201]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5F8E39E9 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 03:44:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.fiedlerfamily.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84969E2AAE for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 04:44:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.fiedlerfamily.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cavemaus [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 05360-04 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 04:44:20 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail.fiedlerfamily.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 6E6E2E2AAF; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 04:44:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (unknown [192.168.0.4]) by mail.fiedlerfamily.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB6DE2AAE for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 04:44:14 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4195D774.2030908@fiedlerfamily.net> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 04:44:20 -0500 From: Juergen Fiedler User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040926) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Creating Guest Users X-Enigmail-Version: 0.86.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at fiedlerfamily.net X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1249 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: juergen@fiedlerfamily.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: juergen@fiedlerfamily.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I have encore 3.2 installed and running OK - or so I thought. I have the guest name suffix turned off in @configure-core and yet (even after restarting the MOO), if I try to '@make-guest Guest', the character is created as Guest_Guest. Furthermore, if I '@rename #234 to Guest' with 234 being the object ID of the character, it works once, but if the guest logs out and back in, they show up as Guest_Guest again. That happens whether I connect through Xpress or through telnet. Can anybody tell me how I might be able to turn this behavior off? Thanks in advance, Juergen -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBldd0YFE+dpEf2hQRAuyAAJ9FhfPfLYLvPWERrBIfrhAIuoQWRQCfX5Vf 3SQNHMddYci/UZZakOF/owM= =ZJMN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From kris.olson.au@gmail.com Sat Nov 13 16:45:08 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 13 Nov 2004 16:45:09 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE0F5BAD for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 16:45:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F6924E2 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 16:45:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22944-01-6 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 16:45:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.199]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6943556 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 16:45:01 -0600 (CST) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so567823rne for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 14:45:00 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=mwmjHX6lWXlvuFBlbxSryJlH3P6uXAhej1EUvWcMwZSbPW0gaPrZ+NnDKQzZE++dD5YYk3aY2N8pRSRMWJdIQVQrUFTghCBuhqvma2tbu2aJX+VSW8xJuzWBHxFOcEHcDx7KFgPUKerYisqp2wxZwpfQrIq+oN9SrcDOXQNmDUw= Received: by 10.38.101.52 with SMTP id y52mr601871rnb; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 14:45:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.125.14 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 14:45:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3dce001b04111314453c253bb0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2004 06:45:00 +0800 From: Kris Olson To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: trying to set up MOO In-Reply-To: <8C2D9A2B9988B342BD8BAABEF0C83DB6BFB5D1@xcww01.riv.csu.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <8C2D9A2B9988B342BD8BAABEF0C83DB6BFB5D1@xcww01.riv.csu.edu.au> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1250 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: kris.olson.au@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: kris.olson.au@gmail.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hello all Has anyone out there had experiences in setting up WinMoo and problems associated with WinMoo. It has been suggested that the problems I am experiencing are related to WinMoo. Kris On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 17:20:41 +1100, Eustace, Ken wrote: > Kris, > > Glad to hear you have local support but sad to hear about the port blocking issue. Control, security and ignorance by monolithic education department hamper online pedagogy these days. > > We may be able to help anyway, if needed. > Using WinMOO may be the issue. We run on UNIX systems. > Perhaps another message to the encore list about WinMOO may help. > > -Ken > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kris Olson [mailto:kris.olson.au@gmail.com] > Sent: Fri 11/12/2004 7:43 PM > To: Eustace, Ken > Cc: > Subject: Fwd: [encore] trying to set up MOO > Yes I am the one doing Batavia in Moo. We are very interested. We > are using Moodle to introduce the concept in two weeks. We have set > up 7 personalities from the ship and made three chat rooms to simulate > the time that Lucretia was hung overboard from the Batavia on the > journey over. I am trialling this with my current year 10's on Mondya > and then we will use it as a taster for when the Year 9 students come > for transition week in a week and a half. > > Next year we hope to have each student chose their own identity, > create their character and the various aspects of the environment - > ship, various islands, long boat, etc. We would like to use digital > photography, animation and video. We are pretty excited about it and > have had several planning sessions. > > Leah mentioned that you might host for us but Education Dept firewall > won't let us through to the existing Rochester Moo or any other Moo > (Linga or Terra Moo). After speaking with them, they are not > flexible. I asked the Learning Technology Coordinator if we could > install on our LAN. He said yes. > > I found all the stuff and instructions and our technician has > installed WinMoo and the enCore database. However, when trying to > access to configure via web browser the left frame doesn't come up. > Similar to when I tried to access the Rochester site. > > The technician swears that Java applets are installed and that the > ports are open. I He even downloaded another browser ( I think > Mozilla) to no avail. > > I will keep working on him. Thanks! > > Kris > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Eustace, Ken > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:51:50 +1100 > Subject: RE: [encore] trying to set up MOO > To: kris.olson.au@gmail.com > > Hi Kris, > > Try: > > The MOO ports are in pairs. > You need 2 ports open - one for telnet eg 7777 and one for the Java > applet interface eg 7000. At K9 at http://ispg.csu.edu.au:9000 the MOO > runs on the telnet port of 9999. See if you can see and login as guest > to K9 as a test. > > Check that the browser like IE has Java installed as the left frame is a > Java telnet applet. > > Try using Firefox as a good browser. See http://mozilla.org/firefox > > BTW: are you the team thinking of doing the Batavia in MOO? > We have been working with Leah Irving and will be at ASCILTE 04 in Perth > next month. Leah mentioned that a school at Geraldton had shown > interest. > > Regards, > Ken Eustace > Lecturer (Information Systems) > Study Group Program Manager (IT) > School of Information Studies > Charles Sturt University > Wagga Wagga NSW 2678 > Ph: +61 2 6933 2832 Fax: +61 2 6933 2733 > Mobile: 0413 363 229 > Email: keustace@csu.edu.au > Web: farrer.csu.edu.au/~keustace > > -----Original Message----- > From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] On > Behalf Of Kris Olson > Sent: Friday, 12 November 2004 3:31 PM > To: encore@utdallas.edu > Subject: [encore] trying to set up MOO > > Hello everyone > > I am trying to set up a MOO at school. We have loaded the software. > However, the left hand portion of the web page does not load > correctly. We get the please wait message in the right hand window. > > I know that the two most common problems are java applet problems and > port problems. I have gone to the Java site and found a test for the > Java. If you see the little animation, then it is okay. The > technician doing the installing can see the little animation. So I > figure it must be a port problem. > > How can I be definitely sure what the cause of the problem is? (The > technician swears that all ports are open) > > -- > Kris Olson > Geraldton Senior College > Head of Business and Computing Area > 61-8-9965-8443 (W) > 61-8-9965-0317 (H) > > > -- > > > Kris Olson > Geraldton Senior College > Head of Business and Computing Area > 61-8-9965-8443 (W) > 61-8-9965-0317 (H) > > > -- Kris Olson Geraldton Senior College Head of Business and Computing Area 61-8-9965-8443 (W) 61-8-9965-0317 (H) From Lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Sat Nov 13 20:50:05 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 13 Nov 2004 20:50:05 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64465BAD for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 20:50:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D37270B for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 20:50:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 06495-01-100 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 20:50:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id C71F439E9 for ; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 20:50:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from irvin.accdvm.accd.edu [10.1.11.40] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Sat, 13 Nov 2004 20:48:47 CST Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20041113204528.01f56380@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Sender: Lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 20:50:12 -0600 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Lennie Irvin Subject: [encore] Re: trying to set up MOO In-Reply-To: <3dce001b04111314453c253bb0@mail.gmail.com> References: <8C2D9A2B9988B342BD8BAABEF0C83DB6BFB5D1@xcww01.riv.csu.edu.au> <8C2D9A2B9988B342BD8BAABEF0C83DB6BFB5D1@xcww01.riv.csu.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1251 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Kris, I've done a winmoo set up, and I'm not sure that what you are experiencing has anything to do with winmoo. It sounds like perhaps your base URL is incorrect in the @config. ??? Can you log in OK via telnet? Another possibility might be what you mentioned in your earlier message regarding mootcan. I know that when I set up my winmoo there were two versions of mootcan in the enCore distribution. I had problems with my initial installation, but I tried the other version (I think the older version) of mootcan and it worked fine. Perhaps you might try shifting to the other version of mootcan and see what happens. Good luck, Lennie At 06:45 AM 11/14/04 +0800, you wrote: >Hello all > >Has anyone out there had experiences in setting up WinMoo and problems >associated with WinMoo. It has been suggested that the problems I am >experiencing are related to WinMoo. > >Kris > > >On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 17:20:41 +1100, Eustace, Ken wrote: > > Kris, > > > > Glad to hear you have local support but sad to hear about the port > blocking issue. Control, security and ignorance by monolithic education > department hamper online pedagogy these days. > > > > We may be able to help anyway, if needed. > > Using WinMOO may be the issue. We run on UNIX systems. > > Perhaps another message to the encore list about WinMOO may help. > > > > -Ken > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kris Olson [mailto:kris.olson.au@gmail.com] > > Sent: Fri 11/12/2004 7:43 PM > > To: Eustace, Ken > > Cc: > > Subject: Fwd: [encore] trying to set up MOO > > Yes I am the one doing Batavia in Moo. We are very interested. We > > are using Moodle to introduce the concept in two weeks. We have set > > up 7 personalities from the ship and made three chat rooms to simulate > > the time that Lucretia was hung overboard from the Batavia on the > > journey over. I am trialling this with my current year 10's on Mondya > > and then we will use it as a taster for when the Year 9 students come > > for transition week in a week and a half. > > > > Next year we hope to have each student chose their own identity, > > create their character and the various aspects of the environment - > > ship, various islands, long boat, etc. We would like to use digital > > photography, animation and video. We are pretty excited about it and > > have had several planning sessions. > > > > Leah mentioned that you might host for us but Education Dept firewall > > won't let us through to the existing Rochester Moo or any other Moo > > (Linga or Terra Moo). After speaking with them, they are not > > flexible. I asked the Learning Technology Coordinator if we could > > install on our LAN. He said yes. > > > > I found all the stuff and instructions and our technician has > > installed WinMoo and the enCore database. However, when trying to > > access to configure via web browser the left frame doesn't come up. > > Similar to when I tried to access the Rochester site. > > > > The technician swears that Java applets are installed and that the > > ports are open. I He even downloaded another browser ( I think > > Mozilla) to no avail. > > > > I will keep working on him. Thanks! > > > > Kris > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Eustace, Ken > > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:51:50 +1100 > > Subject: RE: [encore] trying to set up MOO > > To: kris.olson.au@gmail.com > > > > Hi Kris, > > > > Try: > > > > The MOO ports are in pairs. > > You need 2 ports open - one for telnet eg 7777 and one for the Java > > applet interface eg 7000. At K9 at http://ispg.csu.edu.au:9000 the MOO > > runs on the telnet port of 9999. See if you can see and login as guest > > to K9 as a test. > > > > Check that the browser like IE has Java installed as the left frame is a > > Java telnet applet. > > > > Try using Firefox as a good browser. See http://mozilla.org/firefox > > > > BTW: are you the team thinking of doing the Batavia in MOO? > > We have been working with Leah Irving and will be at ASCILTE 04 in Perth > > next month. Leah mentioned that a school at Geraldton had shown > > interest. > > > > Regards, > > Ken Eustace > > Lecturer (Information Systems) > > Study Group Program Manager (IT) > > School of Information Studies > > Charles Sturt University > > Wagga Wagga NSW 2678 > > Ph: +61 2 6933 2832 Fax: +61 2 6933 2733 > > Mobile: 0413 363 229 > > Email: keustace@csu.edu.au > > Web: farrer.csu.edu.au/~keustace > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] On > > Behalf Of Kris Olson > > Sent: Friday, 12 November 2004 3:31 PM > > To: encore@utdallas.edu > > Subject: [encore] trying to set up MOO > > > > Hello everyone > > > > I am trying to set up a MOO at school. We have loaded the software. > > However, the left hand portion of the web page does not load > > correctly. We get the please wait message in the right hand window. > > > > I know that the two most common problems are java applet problems and > > port problems. I have gone to the Java site and found a test for the > > Java. If you see the little animation, then it is okay. The > > technician doing the installing can see the little animation. So I > > figure it must be a port problem. > > > > How can I be definitely sure what the cause of the problem is? (The > > technician swears that all ports are open) > > > > -- > > Kris Olson > > Geraldton Senior College > > Head of Business and Computing Area > > 61-8-9965-8443 (W) > > 61-8-9965-0317 (H) > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Kris Olson > > Geraldton Senior College > > Head of Business and Computing Area > > 61-8-9965-8443 (W) > > 61-8-9965-0317 (H) > > > > > > > > >-- >Kris Olson >Geraldton Senior College >Head of Business and Computing Area >61-8-9965-8443 (W) >61-8-9965-0317 (H) L. Lennie Irvin Department of English, San Antonio College San Antonio, TX http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/ Nouspace: http://www.nouspace.net:7000/ From lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Mon Nov 15 14:18:30 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:18:30 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6CB95BAD for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:18:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF4148CD for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:18:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13527-01-100 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:18:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 490DA39FA for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:18:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from gh-208-300633.accdvm.accd.edu [10.11.36.41] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:17:14 CST Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20041115141108.01b938b0@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:17:20 -0600 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Lennie Irvin Subject: [encore] The enCore Consortium Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1252 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Since September's enCore Symposium, the new enCore Consortium has been forming and beginning to take shape. It's time now for an update on what has been happening. The mission of the consortium is simple: "The enCore Consortium seeks to coordinate and promote the open source development and distribution of the enCore Program." After the Symposium, twenty individuals have joined the Consortium--all interested and experienced enCore MOOers from all parts of the world. A consortium website has been established (http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/encoreconsort/Default.htm) as well as an online Forum site for communication (http://www.lirvin.net/moodle/). The focus of the Consortium's work since September has revolved around three Task Forces: 1) Organizational Task Force 2) Programming Task Force 3) Teacher/User Development Task Force The Organizational Task Force proposed, and members voted approval for, the formation of the consortium as an unincorporated, non-profit organization. This new non-profit should be established by the end of the year. With this non-profit status, the consortium will then be able to solicit funds and make grant requests to foundations and other institutions. The Teacher/User Development Task Force is in the process of identifying improvements needed to enCore from a "user's" perspective--student, teacher, administrator. By mid- to late December, this Task Force should have a comprehensive and prioritized list of development tasks for enCore improvement (from a user's perspective). This list of priorities will go to the Programming Task Force which will then go through them with a programmer's perspective. The end result, hopefully by January 2005, is a master list of development tasks for enCore to give our efforts some direction. The job will then be to coordinate and support this development work. As you can see, there is a lot happening and a lot yet to do. If you are interested in the Consortium's work, we invite you to join. In particular, this November the Consortium is working to determine what our first priorities should be regarding changes to enCore. We need your ideas, creativity, energy, and interest in enCore to improve this program. In order to join the enCore Consortium, go to http://www.lirvin.net/moodle/ and click LOG IN to set up your user account. Once you are in the Developing enCore site, you can join the discussion in the various Task Force Forums. If you are interested in enCore, but would rather not join the Consortium, we invite you to submit your ideas for how enCore might become better as posts to this encore-list. They will join the other ideas proposed already. What ideas do you have for enCore development? Lennie Irvin Barbara McManus From djg25@psu.edu Mon Nov 22 00:43:48 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 22 Nov 2004 00:43:49 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FE55BC5 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 00:43:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24DA118D8 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 00:43:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27639-01-47 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 00:43:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from fe.mail.megapathdsl.net (front1.mail.megapathdsl.net [66.80.60.31]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120E339F0 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 00:43:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from [69.33.216.4] (HELO faclapdjg.psu.edu) by fe.mail.megapathdsl.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 12337353 for encore@utdallas.edu; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 22:43:41 -0800 Received-SPF: error receiver=fe.mail.megapathdsl.net; client-ip=69.33.216.4; envelope-from=djg25@psu.edu Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20041122014012.014f60b8@email.psu.edu> X-Sender: djg25@email.psu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 01:45:25 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Deborah Gill Subject: [encore] Properties problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1253 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: djg25@psu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: djg25@psu.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hello,

I have a question that I am sure is basic on the properties of an object that I am creating. 

I have programmed an object, but it says "Property not found" on line 1 on both of the verbs that I have programmed. 

Line 1 of one of the verbs is:
if (this.kinds)

Line 2 of the other verb is what this.kinds is equal to. 

Am I missing something?

Thanks so much for the help!

Best to all,

Debbie

Deborah Gill, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor of Spanish
Pennsylvania State University-DuBois
College Place
DuBois, PA 15801
(814) 375-4783
Email: djg25@psu.edu, msdgill@aol.com From alexborgia@hotmail.com Mon Nov 22 08:12:19 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:12:19 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC3A55C03 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:12:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4124696 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:12:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29540-01-71 for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:12:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from hotmail.com (bay13-dav4.bay13.hotmail.com [64.4.31.178]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0511B35AC for ; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:12:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 06:11:00 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 216.209.204.82 by BAY13-DAV4.phx.gbl with DAV; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 14:10:36 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [216.209.204.82] X-Originating-Email: [alexborgia@hotmail.com] X-Sender: alexborgia@hotmail.com From: "Alexandre Borgia" To: Subject: [encore] Re: Properties problem Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 09:10:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20041122014012.014f60b8@email.psu.edu> Thread-Index: AcTQXqu8R7DbnwozQ5aCqsjrnYes4wAPXmkg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Nov 2004 14:11:00.0947 (UTC) FILETIME=[184EB230:01C4D09D] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1254 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: alexborgia@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: alexborgia@hotmail.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Debbie, Properties in MOO are physical attributes of an object, and must be created explicitly by using the "@property" command. I think what you = are doing is otherwise okay. Once a property with the name "kinds" exists = on the object, you will be able to read it and set it from verbs. Hope this helps! - Alexandre Borgia ________________________________________ From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] On Behalf Of Deborah Gill Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 1:45 AM To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Properties problem Hello, I have a question that I am sure is basic on the properties of an object that I am creating.=A0=20 I have programmed an object, but it says "Property not found" on line 1 = on both of the verbs that I have programmed.=A0=20 Line 1 of one of the verbs is: if (this.kinds) Line 2 of the other verb is what this.kinds is equal to.=A0=20 Am I missing something? Thanks so much for the help! Best to all, Debbie Deborah Gill, Ph.D. Assistant Professor of Spanish Pennsylvania State University-DuBois College Place DuBois, PA 15801 (814) 375-4783 Email: djg25@psu.edu, msdgill@aol.com From kris.olson.au@gmail.com Fri Nov 26 16:42:28 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:42:28 -0600 (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1A05BCC for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:42:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7DE74F45 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:42:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 10546-01-89 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:42:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DCF39F2 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:42:24 -0600 (CST) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id b11so256611rne for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:42:24 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=uggWjtwRizyL+knnnm4X6Sf50dAvC2M+lO0UvZKKL7lFi/UDJndxDkyAjCd8Ke57zCP0DtY2n8jFD0j8ci4R9RkJy9sE+leIVT8P2PoHxNEIEbfB2eFCM6gFstWtJcgPfEyFYgScamvWRHGl+r3NqEEFbszk9nvii+7c0wb4BRY= Received: by 10.38.181.80 with SMTP id d80mr666815rnf; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:42:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.125.21 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:42:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3dce001b04112614424d3e8f71@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 06:42:23 +0800 From: Kris Olson To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: trying to set up MOO In-Reply-To: <3dce001b041111203014eacefd@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <3dce001b041111203014eacefd@mail.gmail.com> X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1255 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: kris.olson.au@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: kris.olson.au@gmail.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Lennie and everyone else We now have the MOO up and running at school. Thanks for your help. I discovered that the problem was the base URL. Although it was set, after the technician rebooted the server he overwrote the base url by typing WinMoo encore.db test.db as opposed to WinMoo test.db test.db to restart the server. I think I will have a few questions about other settings later on. Kris On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:30:52 +0800, Kris Olson wrote: > Hello everyone > > I am trying to set up a MOO at school. We have loaded the software. > However, the left hand portion of the web page does not load > correctly. We get the please wait message in the right hand window. > > I know that the two most common problems are java applet problems and > port problems. I have gone to the Java site and found a test for the > Java. If you see the little animation, then it is okay. The > technician doing the installing can see the little animation. So I > figure it must be a port problem. > > How can I be definitely sure what the cause of the problem is? (The > technician swears that all ports are open) > > -- > Kris Olson > Geraldton Senior College > Head of Business and Computing Area > 61-8-9965-8443 (W) > 61-8-9965-0317 (H) > -- Kris Olson Geraldton Senior College Head of Business and Computing Area 61-8-9965-8443 (W) 61-8-9965-0317 (H)