From Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Wed Oct 6 09:50:49 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 06 Oct 2004 09:50:49 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9D95BB3 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 09:50:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FC221F28 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 09:50:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18511-01-41 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 09:50:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailhub2.dartmouth.edu (mailhub2.Dartmouth.EDU [129.170.17.107]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E3D35C3 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 09:50:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [129.170.91.39] (moneil.Kiewit.Dartmouth.EDU [129.170.91.39]) by mailhub2.dartmouth.edu (8.12.10+DND/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i96ElVJs031272 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 10:47:31 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: EnCore list From: "Mark A. O'Neil" Subject: [encore] Cyrillic Moo? Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 10:47:38 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-MailScanner: Found to be clean by mailhub2.Dartmouth.EDU X-MailScanner-From: mark.a.oneil@dartmouth.edu X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1217 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Is it possible to set Encore Moo to display Cyrillic text? If so what needs to be done? I have a faculty interested in using the moo in his Russian language course. thank you, -m From djh@dmu.ac.uk Thu Oct 14 04:14:04 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 04:14:04 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52BDA5BC6 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 04:14:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 066122990 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 04:14:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29330-01-25 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 04:13:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dmu.ac.uk (motown.dmu.ac.uk [146.227.1.21]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F04234CC for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 04:13:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk (vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk [146.227.40.53]) by dmu.ac.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9E8vgq1028869 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:57:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (djh@localhost) by vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id i9E8jbmr023215 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:45:37 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk: djh owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:45:37 +0100 (BST) From: David James Houghton X-X-Sender: djh@vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Edit Player Messages Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-DMU-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DMU-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: djh@dmu.ac.uk X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1218 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: djh@dmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: djh@dmu.ac.uk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hello Has this feature been removed in V 4 ?? regards -- Dave Houghton djh@dmu.ac.uk System Manager Faculty of Humanities Work Tel. No. 0116 207 8260 Clephan Building, Room 0.07a De Montfort University Leicester LE1 9BH From lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Thu Oct 14 08:04:10 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:04:10 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12895BC6 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:04:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD59524D2 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:04:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19297-01-16 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:04:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E09C39F8 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:04:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gh-208-300633.accdvm.accd.edu [10.11.36.41] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:03:22 CST Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20041014075901.01bacf10@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:03:50 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Lennie Irvin Subject: [encore] Re: Edit Player Messages In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1219 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore I noticed that this property is missing in the Xpress Edit interface for v 4. It still exists, of course. You could set it with a text command or use the Xpress Editor by clicking the Program menu button and find the message property for your player object. I'm not sure why it is gone from the Xpress options. ? Lennie At 03:45 AM 10/14/2004, you wrote: >Hello > > Has this feature been removed in V 4 ?? > >regards > >-- > >Dave Houghton djh@dmu.ac.uk >System Manager >Faculty of Humanities Work Tel. No. 0116 207 8260 >Clephan Building, Room 0.07a >De Montfort University >Leicester LE1 9BH From djh@dmu.ac.uk Thu Oct 14 08:52:12 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:52:12 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230C55BC6 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:52:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC201DB8 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:52:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24545-01-9 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:52:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dmu.ac.uk (motown.dmu.ac.uk [146.227.1.21]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9552739F5 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:52:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk (vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk [146.227.40.53]) by dmu.ac.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9ECkedE028759 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:46:51 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (djh@localhost) by vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id i9ECYZbf023607 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:34:35 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk: djh owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:34:35 +0100 (BST) From: David James Houghton X-X-Sender: djh@vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Time and Dates Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-DMU-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DMU-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: djh@dmu.ac.uk X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1220 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: djh@dmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: djh@dmu.ac.uk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hello Does anyone how to set the time and date in encore ? d. -- Dave Houghton djh@dmu.ac.uk System Manager Faculty of Humanities Work Tel. No. 0116 207 8260 Clephan Building, Room 0.07a De Montfort University Leicester LE1 9BH From djh@dmu.ac.uk Thu Oct 14 10:47:10 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:47:11 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1585BC5 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:47:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9B5219C7 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:47:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11665-01-8 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:47:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dmu.ac.uk (motown.dmu.ac.uk [146.227.1.21]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F28D3EE3 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:47:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk (vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk [146.227.40.53]) by dmu.ac.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9EFVjiG019111 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:31:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (djh@localhost) by vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id i9EFJdOQ023950 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:19:39 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk: djh owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:19:39 +0100 (BST) From: David James Houghton X-X-Sender: djh@vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Blank left hand side (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-DMU-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DMU-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: djh@dmu.ac.uk X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1221 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: djh@dmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: djh@dmu.ac.uk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Ah I have looked in the FAQs and there was mention of security patch for IE that may have caused our problem. We note that there is no problem with IE v 5.0 but there is a serious one with IE 5.1. Investigations are on going. -- Dave Houghton djh@dmu.ac.uk System Manager Faculty of Humanities Work Tel. No. 0116 207 8260 Clephan Building, Room 0.07a De Montfort University Leicester LE1 9BH ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:14:27 +0100 (BST) From: David James Houghton To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: Blank left hand side Hi We are using 4.01 and are suddenly experiencing a blank left hand side to the encore express interface. This seems to happening more and more often. Has anyone else had this experience and is there a way around it ? d. -- Dave Houghton djh@dmu.ac.uk System Manager Faculty of Humanities Work Tel. No. 0116 207 8260 Clephan Building, Room 0.07a De Montfort University Leicester LE1 9BH From rselfe@mtu.edu Thu Oct 14 12:41:56 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:41:56 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF3F5BC4 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:41:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A2014CA for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:41:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26839-01-90 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:41:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailoff.mtu.edu (mailoff.mtu.edu [141.219.70.111]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1937134CC for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:41:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from node5.services.dcsint.mtu.edu (node5.mtu.edu [141.219.69.5]) by mailoff.mtu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.4) with ESMTP id i9EHfll15078 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:41:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from node34.edge.dcsint.mtu.edu (node34.mtu.edu [141.219.69.34]) by node5.services.dcsint.mtu.edu (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i9EHflX9029937 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:41:47 -0400 Received: from mail.mtu.edu (campus4.mtu.edu [141.219.70.7]) by node34.edge.dcsint.mtu.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9EHfkJ9002804 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:41:46 -0400 (envelope-from rselfe@mtu.edu) Received: from node6.services.dcsint.mtu.edu (node6.mtu.edu [141.219.69.6]) by mail.mtu.edu (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i9EHfjF29834 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:41:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [141.219.148.69] (beserker.hu.mtu.edu [141.219.148.69]) by node6.services.dcsint.mtu.edu (8.12.10/8.12.3/auth_ssl.mc v1.0) with ESMTP id i9EHfiwV000641 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:41:45 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rselfe@email.mtu.edu Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:41:42 -0400 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Dickie Selfe Subject: [encore] level of programming Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-PMX-Version: 4.7.0.111621, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.0.0, Antispam-Data: 2004.10.14.0 X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__C230066_P5 0, __CT 0, __CTYPE_CHARSET_QUOTED 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1222 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: rselfe@mtu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: rselfe@mtu.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore I've been thinking of MOO as the base interface for educational/gaming activities. A couple of questions come to mind: 1. do .swf files play in a MOO space triggered by someone enteriing the space? 2. How much programming would be necessary to create a bot that would be a gatekeeper? That is, it wouldn't let the traveler (who is wondering through & exploring a whole set of rooms) go forward (leave the room) until s/he was able to answer questions or riddles or find something hidden or whatever? -- Dickie Selfe (OO) Director of CCCCCCC LLLL iiii Center for Computer-Assisted Language Instruction CCCCCCCCC LLLL iiii +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ CCCC ccccc LLLL iiii 138 Walker Arts and Humanities Center CCCC cc LLLL iiii Michigan Technological University CCCC ccccc LLLL iiii Houghton, MI 49931 906-487-3225 CCCCCCCCC LLLLLLLLL CCCCCCC LLLLLLLLL "It's hard work to be a good geek!" -- Noel Maddy . From djh@dmu.ac.uk Thu Oct 14 15:37:28 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:37:28 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825575BC4 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:37:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA7E13CB for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:37:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25920-01-62 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:37:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dmu.ac.uk (motown.dmu.ac.uk [146.227.1.21]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC38635C3 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:37:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk (vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk [146.227.40.53]) by dmu.ac.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9EEQWvK011098 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:27:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (djh@localhost) by vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id i9EEERdu023794 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:14:27 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk: djh owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 15:14:27 +0100 (BST) From: David James Houghton X-X-Sender: djh@vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Blank left hand side Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-DMU-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DMU-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: djh@dmu.ac.uk X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1223 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: djh@dmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: djh@dmu.ac.uk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi We are using 4.01 and are suddenly experiencing a blank left hand side to the encore express interface. This seems to happening more and more often. Has anyone else had this experience and is there a way around it ? d. -- Dave Houghton djh@dmu.ac.uk System Manager Faculty of Humanities Work Tel. No. 0116 207 8260 Clephan Building, Room 0.07a De Montfort University Leicester LE1 9BH From rbroglio@earthlink.net Fri Oct 15 06:00:13 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 15 Oct 2004 11:15:29 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50B05BCB for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 06:00:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E60269B for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 06:00:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16766-01-53 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 06:00:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from nc001sip01.solutionip.com (unknown [12.38.11.122]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id CC33039E9 for ; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 06:00:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [12.174.153.157] (helo=[12.174.153.157]) by nc001sip01.solutionip.com with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1) id 1CIPoa-0001rQ-00; Fri, 15 Oct 2004 07:00:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: encore@utdallas.edu From: Ron Broglio Subject: [encore] Re: Blank left hand side Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 18:59:58 -0400 To: djh@dmu.ac.uk X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1224 X-Approved-By: cynthiah@utdallas.edu X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: rbroglio@earthlink.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: rbroglio@earthlink.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Yes, But I've yet to know what went wrong. It happened for about 10 min. and then went fine. I'd be interested to hear other tales... and possible solutions. RB On Oct 14, 2004, at 10:14 AM, David James Houghton wrote: > Hi > > We are using 4.01 and are suddenly experiencing a blank left > hand side to the encore express interface. This seems to happening > more and more often. Has anyone else had this experience and > is there a way around it ? > > d. > > -- > > Dave Houghton djh@dmu.ac.uk > System Manager > Faculty of Humanities Work Tel. No. 0116 207 8260 > Clephan Building, Room 0.07a > De Montfort University > Leicester LE1 9BH > > From ps138792@ohio.edu Tue Oct 19 10:15:31 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:15:31 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88B15BC5 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:15:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6701F48 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:15:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08070-01-65 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:15:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from oak1a.cats.ohiou.edu (oak1a.cats.ohiou.edu [132.235.8.45]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EFA3EDF for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:15:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 132.235.87.74 by pm8 for 0s (PureMessage); Tue Oct 19 11:11:57 2004 Received: from inspiron9100 (dhcp-087-074.cns.ohiou.edu [132.235.87.74]) (authenticated bits=0) by oak3a.cats.ohiou.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9JFBuSc1982317 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:11:57 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:11:52 -0400 From: Paul Shovlin To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] multimedia and encore (powerpoint) Message-ID: <998DEC7CEE898EB7398E2326@inspiron9100> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.5 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 4.7.0.111621, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.1.0, Antispam-Data: 2004.10.19.0 (pm8) X-PMX-Information: http://www.cns.ohiou.edu/email/filtering/ X-PMX-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CD 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1225 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: ps138792@ohio.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: ps138792@ohio.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hey folks, I was wondering if anyone knew of any easy way to utilize powerpoint on an encore moo...Obviously, I could save it as html and post it as a Web page then have encore link to it but I thought maybe someone had a better way. Also, if there is some resource for using multimedia on encore please do point me towards it... Thanks, Paul Shovlin Ohio University From raking@uncg.edu Tue Oct 19 12:49:12 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:49:12 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D945BC7 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:49:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F87F1C05 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:49:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01790-01-85 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:49:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from hygeia.uncg.edu (hygeia.uncg.edu [152.13.2.96]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3997839F8 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:49:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from email5.uncg.edu (email5-real.uncg.edu [152.13.13.77]) by hygeia.uncg.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i9JHmrOb000012 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:49:04 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <998DEC7CEE898EB7398E2326@inspiron9100> To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: multimedia and encore (powerpoint) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.1 January 21, 2004 Message-ID: From: Bob King RAKING Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:24:50 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on email5/servers/uncg(Release 6.5.1|January 21, 2004) at 10/19/2004 01:49:05 PM, Serialize complete at 10/19/2004 01:49:05 PM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 005FAB4285256F32_=" X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.2(snapshot 20021217) (hygeia) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1226 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: raking@uncg.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: raking@uncg.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 005FAB4285256F32_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Paul, I like to give slideshows in MOO and have settled on the following method for now. I make the PowerPoint, then I use a free screen-capture tool to save the invididual slides as .gif files (I do the captures from the "normal" view in ppt because this allows me to adjust the size of the ppt slide). I then post the .gif files to a web directory and link to them via the Web Projector object. The .gif filesizes are small, and I have found I can knock out a batch of slides very quickly in this way. Bob "Paul Shovlin" Sent by: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu 10/19/2004 11:11 AM Please respond to ps138792@ohio.edu To , cc Subject [encore] multimedia and encore (powerpoint) Hey folks, I was wondering if anyone knew of any easy way to utilize powerpoint on an encore moo...Obviously, I could save it as html and post it as a Web page then have encore link to it but I thought maybe someone had a better way. Also, if there is some resource for using multimedia on encore please do point me towards it... Thanks, Paul Shovlin Ohio University --=_alternative 005FAB4285256F32_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
Paul,

I like to give slideshows in MOO and have settled on the following method for now. I make the PowerPoint, then I use a free screen-capture tool to save the invididual slides as .gif files (I do the captures from the "normal" view in ppt because this allows me to adjust the size of the ppt slide). I then post the .gif files to a web directory and link to them via the Web Projector object. The .gif filesizes are small, and I have found I can knock out a batch of slides very quickly in this way.

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Hey folks,
I was wondering if anyone knew of any easy way to utilize powerpoint on an
encore moo...Obviously, I could save it as html and post it as a Web page
then have encore link to it but I thought maybe someone had a better way.
Also, if there is some resource for using multimedia on encore please do
point me towards it...
Thanks,
Paul Shovlin
Ohio University
--=_alternative 005FAB4285256F32_=-- From jeffwhite@uaa.alaska.edu Tue Oct 19 13:34:13 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:36:38 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA49A5BC4 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:34:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 922891B05 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:34:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 10517-01-10 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:34:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mmp-3.gci.net (mmp-3.gci.net [208.138.130.77]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A943EE3 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:34:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (158-198-237-24.gci.net [24.237.198.158]) by mmp-3.gci.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0I5U001YFGV5WT@mmp-3.gci.net> for encore@utdallas.edu; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:33:07 -0800 (AKDT) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:33:34 -0800 From: Jeff White Subject: [encore] Re: multimedia and encore (powerpoint) In-reply-to: To: encore@utdallas.edu Message-id: <41755DFE.5090508@uaa.alaska.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1227 X-Approved-By: cynthiah@utdallas.edu X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jeffwhite@uaa.alaska.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jeffwhite@uaa.alaska.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore You could consider using Flash (or Swish) rather than PPT to make your slides--or if you have PPT, but not Flash, make them in PPT, convert to Flash with OpenOffice (though any movement or other effects in PPT don't convert very well). jeffwhite Bob King RAKING wrote: > > Paul, > > I like to give slideshows in MOO and have settled on the following > method for now. I make the PowerPoint, then I use a free screen-capture > tool to save the invididual slides as .gif files (I do the captures from > the "normal" view in ppt because this allows me to adjust the size of > the ppt slide). I then post the .gif files to a web directory and link > to them via the Web Projector object. The .gif filesizes are small, and > I have found I can knock out a batch of slides very quickly in this way. > > Bob > > > > > *"Paul Shovlin" * > Sent by: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu > > 10/19/2004 11:11 AM > Please respond to > ps138792@ohio.edu > > > > To > , > cc > > Subject > [encore] multimedia and encore (powerpoint) > > > > > > > > > Hey folks, > I was wondering if anyone knew of any easy way to utilize powerpoint on an > encore moo...Obviously, I could save it as html and post it as a Web page > then have encore link to it but I thought maybe someone had a better way. > Also, if there is some resource for using multimedia on encore please do > point me towards it... > Thanks, > Paul Shovlin > Ohio University > > From lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Tue Oct 19 15:08:05 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:08:05 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA795BF5 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:08:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AEF42080 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:08:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22983-01-85 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:08:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 540EB3EDD for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:08:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gh-208-300633.accdvm.accd.edu [10.11.36.41] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:07:17 CST Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20041019150322.01bd8250@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 15:07:36 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Lennie Irvin Subject: [encore] Re: multimedia and encore (powerpoint) In-Reply-To: <998DEC7CEE898EB7398E2326@inspiron9100> References: <998DEC7CEE898EB7398E2326@inspiron9100> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1228 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hey Paul, I typically do what you describe where I make a link available to a PPT . I guess the trick would be to keep the presentation inside the viewing window of the MOO. Whenever you hit the presentation icon, it takes over the whole screen. I'm not sure if there is a way to have PPT stay within a particular window. I think Jeff is probably on target recommending Flash if you want any kind of animation to a presentation. Lennie At 10:11 AM 10/19/2004, you wrote: >Hey folks, >I was wondering if anyone knew of any easy way to utilize powerpoint on an >encore moo...Obviously, I could save it as html and post it as a Web page >then have encore link to it but I thought maybe someone had a better way. >Also, if there is some resource for using multimedia on encore please do >point me towards it... >Thanks, >Paul Shovlin >Ohio University From jung@uib.no Wed Oct 20 18:14:43 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:14:43 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2830D5BE7 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:14:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAFE31871 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:14:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23913-01-58 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:14:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noralf.uib.no (noralf.uib.no [129.177.30.12]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFA1A39F6 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:14:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alfred.uib.no (smtp.uib.no) [129.177.30.120] by noralf.uib.no with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CKPf9-0000qk-13; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 01:14:36 +0200 Received: from tunnel-45-27.vpn.uib.no [129.177.45.27] by smtp.uib.no with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CKPf8-0006gx-IQ; Thu, 21 Oct 2004 01:14:34 +0200 Message-ID: <4176F15B.7070909@uib.no> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 01:14:35 +0200 From: Daniel Jung User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Accented characters on mootcan 0.1.2 on java 1.4.02 on Mac OS 10.3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on noralf X-Scanner: 1cbc7115ab36a947f14b5ec1bced602d http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 0.0 hits, 11.0 required X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1229 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jung@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jung@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi IExplorer 5.2 for MAC doesn't display the applet (specs in the subject line). Safari doesn't either. Bad enough, but that's not the question. Netscape and the Gecko family run the applet like they should, but: You cannot compose characters in the applet. Meaning key combinations that lead to é, à, ñ, ü, etc. It is possible to copy-and-paste into the applet, and the characters are rendered and sent (and, server side, processed) correctly. It is possible to switch the keyboard to a "foreign" one and get accented characters by pushing "built-in" single stroke accented characters. Combining is a problem though. In Firefox, the browser's "search-while-you-type" feature takes over when an accent is chosen (say ´), and when hitting the following vowel (say e), the browser alerts you "Link é not found". I believe this to be a browser bug. Still, it tells us that accents are breaking (blurring) the input flow somehow. Is there any way to escape that break signal? The other Gecko browsers (w/o the "search-while-you-type" feature) just ignore the set (the two keys). I haven't figured out yet how to fix that. I have tried in vain to search MAC and JAVA forums for messages about that special behaviour, but couldn't find any usefull text. Since I cannot tell my users to switch to IExplorer or Safari either (see first paragraph), I'm kind of stuck here... Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, - Daniel From djh@dmu.ac.uk Mon Oct 25 06:18:03 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:18:04 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3615BAD for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:18:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E23117D2 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:18:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09447-01-5 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:17:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dmu.ac.uk (motown.dmu.ac.uk [146.227.1.21]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9426F39F3 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 06:17:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk (vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk [146.227.40.53]) by dmu.ac.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9PBGjP4010877 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:16:46 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (djh@localhost) by vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id i9PBGiNV023282 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:16:45 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk: djh owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:16:44 +0100 (BST) From: David James Houghton X-X-Sender: djh@vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Who moved that object Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-DMU-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DMU-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: djh@dmu.ac.uk X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1230 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: djh@dmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: djh@dmu.ac.uk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hello Does anybody know if there is a facility to track who moved what object. We have a rogue user who keeps moving other peoples stuff about but we are having difficulty finding out who it is. regards -- Dave Houghton djh@dmu.ac.uk System Manager Faculty of Humanities Work Tel. No. 0116 207 8260 Clephan Building, Room 0.07a De Montfort University Leicester LE1 9BH From jung@uib.no Mon Oct 25 07:26:13 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:26:13 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053375BAD for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:26:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2CC17B2 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:26:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 14746-01-8 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:26:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noralf.uib.no (noralf.uib.no [129.177.30.12]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5832539E9 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 07:26:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alfalfa.uib.no (webmail.uib.no) [129.177.13.21] by noralf.uib.no with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CM3vK-0002Hp-Ux; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:26:09 +0200 Received: from httpd by webmail.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with local (Exim 4.12) id 1CM3vK-0000A5-00; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:26:06 +0200 Received: from mac86.sms.uib.no [129.177.213.86] as user fafdj@localhost by webmail.uib.no with HTTP; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:26:06 +0200 Message-ID: <1098707166.417cf0dea7c16@webmail.uib.no> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 14:26:06 +0200 From: Daniel Jung To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Who moved that object References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1-cvs X-checked-clean: by exiscan on noralf X-Scanner: 28a9be6b6da353b3878bcb4166c1985c http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: -9.0 hits, 11.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; -9.0 -- Message received from UIB X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1231 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jung@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jung@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hello David Zitat von David James Houghton : > Does anybody know if there is a facility to track who > moved what object. We have a rogue user who keeps moving > other peoples stuff about but we are having difficulty > finding out who it is. Sounds like fun. :) Answer: There is NO recollection of who moved what in the MOO. You can, however, hack a few verbs to track moving. Example: 1. Build a property: -------------------- @prop $root_class.moveto_data {} 2. Insert this into the verb $root_class:moveto ----------------------------------------------- new_data = {time(), player}; this.moveto_data = (!(is_clear_property(md = this.moveto_data))) ? {@md, new_data} | new_data; 3. Create a new verb on yourself -------------------------------- @verb me:@trackmove any none none rd @program me:@trackmove object = argstr; this:tell(); if (!length(md = toobj(argstr).moveto_data)) this:tell("no moving data for ", object); else for m in (md) this:tell(ctime(m[1]), ": ", m[2], " (", m[2].name, ") moved ", object); endfor endif this:tell(); 4. Track the moving about ------------------------- Whenever there is an object moved about and you want to know who moved it, type the following command (e.g., the object is #1020): @trackmove #1020 This is code off the sleeve. No warranty! Hope it works. CAVEAT: Be carefull with $root_class:moveto()! Once you have tracked down the rogue, you should consider reverting $root_class:moveto to its original version. - Daniel From jung@uib.no Mon Oct 25 09:04:58 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:04:58 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787735BAD for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:04:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29846212A for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:04:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24044-01-26 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:04:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from noralf.uib.no (noralf.uib.no [129.177.30.12]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA0039F3 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:04:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alfred.uib.no (smtp.uib.no) [129.177.30.120] by noralf.uib.no with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CM5Sv-0006gh-Gd; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:04:55 +0200 Received: from tunnel-45-30.vpn.uib.no [129.177.45.30] by smtp.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CM5Su-0003Rj-Tv; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:04:53 +0200 Message-ID: <417D0800.7060602@uib.no> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:04:48 +0200 From: Daniel Jung User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Who moved that object References: <1098707166.417cf0dea7c16@webmail.uib.no> In-Reply-To: <1098707166.417cf0dea7c16@webmail.uib.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on noralf X-Scanner: c3f880256e5d09f51e18c9bbb7222e21 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 0.0 hits, 11.0 required X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1232 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jung@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jung@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi again Came to think about one thing: Daniel Jung wrote: > 2. Insert this into the verb $root_class:moveto > ----------------------------------------------- > new_data = {time(), player}; > this.moveto_data = (!(is_clear_property(md = this.moveto_data))) ? {@md, > new_data} | new_data; Actually, do rather this: new_data = {time(), player}; this.moveto_data = !is_clear_property(md = this.moveto_data) ? {@md, new_data} | {new_data}; (The last `new_data' should be inside a list.) Else the @trackmove wouldn't work. Still, there is no warranty - the code might just point you into one possible right direction. Good luck, - Daniel From alexborgia@hotmail.com Mon Oct 25 20:01:04 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:01:04 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2667F5BC4 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:01:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4DC1687 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:01:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 22772-01-23 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:01:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay13-dav4.bay13.hotmail.com [64.4.31.178]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1657B39F6 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 20:01:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:01:00 -0700 Received: from 66.36.148.0 by BAY13-DAV4.phx.gbl with DAV; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 01:00:04 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [66.36.148.0] X-Originating-Email: [alexborgia@hotmail.com] X-Sender: alexborgia@hotmail.com From: "Alexandre Borgia" To: Subject: [encore] Re: Who moved that object Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:00:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <417D0800.7060602@uib.no> Thread-Index: AcS6m6yACbGx6hJLQTSV6pxZj5JL9wAVZggg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2004 01:01:00.0979 (UTC) FILETIME=[42925030:01C4BAF7] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1233 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: alexborgia@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: alexborgia@hotmail.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi! Malicious programmers have always been an annoyance in MOOs. They cannot do much damage (like loss of data), but can perform very annoying tricks like resource consumption, mass-mailing, spamming the conversation window ... and moving things around, unfortunately. The philosophy behind MOO programming has always been one of share & trust. Small communities are usually easy to monitor, and leaving such freedom to developers is in my opinion a good thing since it lets the MOO evolve in many creative way. Some MOOs enforce stronger programming politics than other, but as general rules, every programmer should be known by Wizards who keep an eye on their work from time to time. For instance, it is interesting to periodically check the list of @forked tasks and make sure no unjustified tasks are running in background. Also, when increasing quota, it might be worth surveying what the programmer has previously created. Furthermore, Lambda MOO (hence enCore) has a "builder" player-class that has rights to create objects but cannot do any programming work. This is a very interesting class to use if you want to give the opportunity for your players to create object instances without worrying about potential damages. In my MOO, players are created with this class and a small amount of quota is given to everyone, so I only have to worry about actual requests of players who really wish to develop. That being said, Daniel's tool should be quite efficient at finding your troublemaker:) I'd also like to point out that there are mechanism to prevent unwanted moving of objects, mainly @locking the objects in a particular room or for a particular person, or using the $housekeeper (try "help $housekeeper"). The later is particularly useful if you want to create moods using room objects and make sure that they somewhat remain at the same place. Have a nice week everyone! - Alexandre Borgia From alexborgia@hotmail.com Mon Oct 25 21:49:09 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:49:09 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B895C44 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:49:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A4B20DA for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:49:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02794-01-62 for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:49:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay13-dav4.bay13.hotmail.com [64.4.31.178]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF08B39FA for ; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:49:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 25 Oct 2004 19:49:00 -0700 Received: from 66.36.133.190 by BAY13-DAV4.phx.gbl with DAV; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:48:21 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [66.36.133.190] X-Originating-Email: [alexborgia@hotmail.com] X-Sender: alexborgia@hotmail.com From: "Alexandre Borgia" To: , Subject: [encore] Re: Who moved ... (housekeeper) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 22:48:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <200410260111.i9Q1B8fH026798@mail28.syd.optusnet.com.au> Thread-Index: AcS6+Kz6nc8qKlF8RamyrjX5NhRAgAACY/cg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2004 02:49:00.0937 (UTC) FILETIME=[58ED6F90:01C4BB06] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1234 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: alexborgia@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: alexborgia@hotmail.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Peter, Hmm, after investigation there seems to be some bugs in the version of $housekeeper found in enCore, I hence don't recommend using it as I previously suggested:/ They appear to have been fixed on various MOOs - I don't know about the original Lambda release (I assume this is not enCore-specific). Hypothetically, you can add objects to the $housekeeper using the following command: ;$housekeeper:add_cleanup(); .. and remove them this way: ;$housekeeper:remove_cleanup(); Where is the ID (i.e. #123) of a MOO object. You also have to activate the housekeeper like this: ;$housekeeper:continuous(); Objects managed by the housekeeper are cleaned up periodically, that is, they are returned at the location they were when you originally added them. This is done only if the object is no longer "used", that is, that there are nobody at the current object location and also it is not being carried by an active player. It is an interesting tool because you can leave objects laying around that can be used and carried by players, being certain that they will eventually come back to the original scene. About the bugs encountered ... it seems that $housekeeper:continuous will never enter the main loop if there is only one object to clean because of a bogus index declaration - or it will never clean the last object added. Also, I don't see how the "litterbug" functionality can work as expected, though it is not one of the functionalities I described above. On a side note, you can use the housekeeper to personalize the messages displayed when people are taken back to their room on disconnect. They are $housekeeper.drop_off_msg and $housekeeper.take_away_msg :) Sincerely, - Alexandre Borgia -----Original Message----- From: Peter Whitehouse [mailto:pwhitehouse@optusnet.com.au] Sent: 25 octobre 2004 21:11 To: alexborgia@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [encore] Re: Who moved that object > $housekeeper (try"help $housekeeper"). The later is particularly useful if you want to create moods using room objects and make sure that they somewhat remain at the same place. can you help me with syntax to use these functions please regards, Peter R Whitehouse * (AKA wOnKo) --------------------------------------------------- HOF - ICT St. Joseph's College, Gregory Terrace, Brisbane. ACCE Professional Associate http://www.wonko.info *some assembler required From rozemar@gvsu.edu Tue Oct 26 12:25:07 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:25:07 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D02D5BDE for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:25:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6227C2B89 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:25:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28910-01-49 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:25:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gvsu.edu (gwise-a2.server.gvsu.edu [148.61.5.164]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E10A3559 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 12:24:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from SMTPDOM-MTA by gvsu.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:24:58 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.1 Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:24:37 -0400 From: "Robert Rozema" To: , , Subject: [encore] Access Issues Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1235 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: rozemar@gvsu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: rozemar@gvsu.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi all, I have a quick question: A few secondary teachers have expressed interest in using the MOO hosted at www.wmich.edu/teachenglish/encore, but most of them are unable to access the site through their school's computers. In one case, the teacher received this message Starting enCore Xpress from server: webapp01.it.wmich.edu but nothing happened. I'm guessing that their firewall is the issue, but I'd like your input. Any simple directions I can give to get them access? Thanks, Robert Rozema English Dept. Grand Valley State University From alexborgia@hotmail.com Tue Oct 26 17:24:07 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:24:07 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423635BAD for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:24:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062422CE4 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:24:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12327-01-63 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:24:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay13-dav18.bay13.hotmail.com [64.4.31.192]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75C239E9 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:24:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:24:01 -0700 Received: from 66.36.133.190 by BAY13-DAV18.phx.gbl with DAV; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:23:53 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [66.36.133.190] X-Originating-Email: [alexborgia@hotmail.com] X-Sender: alexborgia@hotmail.com From: "Alexandre Borgia" To: Subject: [encore] Re: Access Issues Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:24:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcS7gMnb3ZUmd9r5REWGLYTGiqnaIAAJaRYg In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2004 22:24:01.0115 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E4EE2B0:01C4BBAA] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1236 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: alexborgia@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: alexborgia@hotmail.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Robert, Assuming they can open the main MOO window, that the buttons are appearing on top of the page and that the java applet on the left is NOT loading, I would try the following: 1) Try to telnet directly to the MOO. You can "open MOOtcan" from the main login screen and check the html source to see the port used by the MOO. The key looks like this: Open a command prompt and type: telnet
... in your case telnet webapp01.it.wmich.edu 7777 If the connection can't be made, it is most probable that a firewall/proxy server is blocking that port. 2) Open the java console and read the error log. It will tell you what went wrong with the applet. Possible reasons are that the applet is not supported by the java plug-in version or that security policies restrict outgoing connections to be made from applets. Hope this helps! - Alexandre Borgia -----Original Message----- From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Rozema Sent: 26 octobre 2004 13:25 To: alexborgia@hotmail.com; pwhitehouse@optusnet.com.au; encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Access Issues Hi all, I have a quick question: A few secondary teachers have expressed interest in using the MOO hosted at www.wmich.edu/teachenglish/encore, but most of them are unable to access the site through their school's computers. In one case, the teacher received this message Starting enCore Xpress from server: webapp01.it.wmich.edu but nothing happened. I'm guessing that their firewall is the issue, but I'd like your input. Any simple directions I can give to get them access? Thanks, Robert Rozema English Dept. Grand Valley State University From ps138792@ohio.edu Tue Oct 26 14:46:35 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 26 Oct 2004 23:14:16 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4325BC7 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:46:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB28AFA9 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:46:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19330-01-55 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:46:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from oak1a.cats.ohiou.edu (oak1a.cats.ohiou.edu [132.235.8.45]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF09939F4 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 14:46:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 132.235.87.74 by pm7 for 0s (PureMessage); Tue Oct 26 15:39:31 2004 Received: from inspiron9100 (dhcp-087-074.cns.ohiou.edu [132.235.87.74]) (authenticated bits=0) by oak1a.cats.ohiou.edu (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9QJdVvO528079 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:39:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:39:15 -0400 From: Paul Shovlin To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] log issue Message-ID: X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.5 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 4.7.0.111621, Antispam-Engine: 2.0.1.0, Antispam-Data: 2004.10.26.1 (pm7) X-PMX-Information: http://www.cns.ohiou.edu/email/filtering/ X-PMX-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CD 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0' X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1237 X-Approved-By: cynthiah@utdallas.edu X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: ps138792@ohio.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: ps138792@ohio.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hey folks, One of the problems we've faced from extensively using the log tool through encore xpress is that if we are logging an hour session with a good bit of dialogue the log becomes too big. At that point, if one tries to save to email or delete the log it times out and nothing happens...on a few occasions we had to manually delete the log through the MOO window on the left. Anyway have any fixes for this (aside from saving to email and deleting and restarting every 45 minutes or so)? Thanks, Paul Shovlin Ohio University From djh@dmu.ac.uk Wed Oct 27 03:06:47 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:06:47 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495B95BAD for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:06:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0520A1BCE for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:06:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02139-01-47 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:06:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dmu.ac.uk (motown.dmu.ac.uk [146.227.1.21]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 367113559 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:06:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk (vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk [146.227.40.53]) by dmu.ac.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9R86AY3001766; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:06:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (djh@localhost) by vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id i9R86AZG026237; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:06:10 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk: djh owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:06:10 +0100 (BST) From: David James Houghton X-X-Sender: djh@vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk To: Alexandre Borgia Cc: pwhitehouse@optusnet.com.au, encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Who moved ... (housekeeper) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-DMU-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DMU-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: djh@dmu.ac.uk X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1238 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: djh@dmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: djh@dmu.ac.uk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Should this be reported as a bug ? -- Dave Houghton djh@dmu.ac.uk System Manager Faculty of Humanities Work Tel. No. 0116 207 8260 Clephan Building, Room 0.07a De Montfort University Leicester LE1 9BH On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Alexandre Borgia wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Hmm, after investigation there seems to be some bugs in the version > of $housekeeper found in enCore, I hence don't recommend using it as I > previously suggested:/ They appear to have been fixed on various MOOs - I > don't know about the original Lambda release (I assume this is not > enCore-specific). > > Hypothetically, you can add objects to the $housekeeper using the > following command: > > ;$housekeeper:add_cleanup(); > > .. and remove them this way: > > ;$housekeeper:remove_cleanup(); > > Where is the ID (i.e. #123) of a MOO object. > > You also have to activate the housekeeper like this: > > ;$housekeeper:continuous(); > > Objects managed by the housekeeper are cleaned up periodically, that > is, they are returned at the location they were when you originally added > them. This is done only if the object is no longer "used", that is, that > there are nobody at the current object location and also it is not being > carried by an active player. > > It is an interesting tool because you can leave objects laying > around that can be used and carried by players, being certain that they will > eventually come back to the original scene. > > > About the bugs encountered ... it seems that $housekeeper:continuous > will never enter the main loop if there is only one object to clean because > of a bogus index declaration - or it will never clean the last object added. > Also, I don't see how the "litterbug" functionality can work as expected, > though it is not one of the functionalities I described above. > > > On a side note, you can use the housekeeper to personalize the > messages displayed when people are taken back to their room on disconnect. > They are $housekeeper.drop_off_msg and $housekeeper.take_away_msg :) > > > Sincerely, > > - Alexandre Borgia > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Whitehouse [mailto:pwhitehouse@optusnet.com.au] > Sent: 25 octobre 2004 21:11 > To: alexborgia@hotmail.com > Subject: Re: [encore] Re: Who moved that object > > > $housekeeper (try"help $housekeeper"). The later is particularly useful > if you want to > create moods using room objects and make sure that they somewhat remain at > the same place. > > can you help me with syntax to use these functions please > > regards, > > Peter R Whitehouse * > (AKA wOnKo) > --------------------------------------------------- > HOF - ICT > St. Joseph's College, Gregory Terrace, Brisbane. > ACCE Professional Associate > http://www.wonko.info > *some assembler required > From milokp@gmail.com Wed Oct 27 13:47:20 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:47:20 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFF85BB0 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:47:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C32166A for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:47:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18481-01-4 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:47:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667FA35C3 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 13:47:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so828832wri for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:47:17 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GQLrHyYRY94Y/zcjhSbAihsnwwqr3ySpBPcvfzHySBpT5/0KVvnXQB+0DM2z5vZ7ryWzosuYLUSJPcSBShS70h+WKZzXb1Wr6LNmBLk2N0Xg6+1w4BCe8M6Lrsd+L7NcVX1MAXecuKirhxqjH3ula6TWA6Y5KT5rZOHDMVusHcs= Received: by 10.38.76.80 with SMTP id y80mr957052rna; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.25 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:47:16 -0400 From: Milo Pschigoda To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Access Issue Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1239 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: milokp@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: milokp@gmail.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore >Hi all, > >I have a quick question: A few secondary teachers have expressed >interest in using the MOO hosted at >www.wmich.edu/teachenglish/encore, >but most of them are unable to access the site through their school's >computers. In one case, the teacher received this message > >Starting enCore Xpress from server: webapp01.it.wmich.edu > >but nothing happened. > >I'm guessing that their firewall is the issue, but I'd like your input. >Any simple directions I can give to get them access? > >Thanks, > > >Robert Rozema >English Dept. >Grand Valley State University I'm a student on the WMU campus currently, and even here on the campus network the Xpress login does not work. When I press the login button it reloads the page, but does nothing else. I can login through the MOOtcan java/telnet client and the telnet interface, though browsing about I ran into some more problems with mislinked exits, where it had the exit back, but I couldn't use it. Being that I am on the wmich.edu network, I would guess that it is a server issue rather then a firewall issue. Running though the "Browse the MOO" link I ran into a few "500 Internal Server Errors" with Traceback: #55:append, line 7:Type mismatch ... called from #125:make_body, line 9 ... called from #244:build, line 22 ... called from #244:_html, line 8 ... called from #244:_html, line 6 ... called from #32:get, line 50 (End of traceback) I am only a student, but if you want me to go and talk to somebody give me names and I'll do my best. As a side note, I am also not going to use gmail for this list anymore, I am very unhappy with its handling of conversations and mailing lists. MilesP From alexborgia@hotmail.com Wed Oct 27 18:37:06 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:37:06 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001FE5BB0 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:37:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72AE1A5C for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:37:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29956-01-23 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:37:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from hotmail.com (bay13-dav4.bay13.hotmail.com [64.4.31.178]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447743559 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:37:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:37:00 -0700 Received: from 66.36.131.123 by BAY13-DAV4.phx.gbl with DAV; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 23:36:35 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [66.36.131.123] X-Originating-Email: [alexborgia@hotmail.com] X-Sender: alexborgia@hotmail.com From: "Alexandre Borgia" To: Subject: [encore] Housekeeper Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:36:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcS7+/2nPp1/IbYDTBO4MS2ZhDteggAf6hUg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2004 23:37:00.0461 (UTC) FILETIME=[DB03CDD0:01C4BC7D] X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1240 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: alexborgia@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: alexborgia@hotmail.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore > Should this be reported as a bug ? Since the housekeeper is no part of the official enCore documentation and has no user interface associated with it I'm hesitant to call this a bug, though it would obviously be nice to get it working correctly on future releases. For those interested in using the $housekeeper you may change the following line in $housekeeper:continuous : 14: while (index < length(this.clean)) For this one: while (index <= length(this.clean)) The functionalities I described in my last post should now work as expected. Notice that the Housekeeper works as a real-life labourer and does not clean the MOO "instantly". He will though try to make his run within less than an hour, moving objects and taking naps between :) - Alexandre Borgia From milokp@gmail.com Wed Oct 27 19:15:26 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:15:26 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049685BB0 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:15:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06D11744 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:15:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02973-01-71 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:15:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CFB39F3 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:15:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so912530wri for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:15:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=ew6YUimQ8JsnE7wsH7wXu0xUC2uxqH+rnmWHe0Qt4Ov6tTzBRG7lFHpwpydC1LSPOuZ7NnMlZ6bPobHHMz7XWyRZUdrcFGmctmo5TnqiU/kyHmCfqPyXxcNtR4oM1KoAv3wAMHozCrMEC9TcEepkX1sshW9k8hZVIzZlqynR8pU= Received: by 10.38.151.24 with SMTP id y24mr1078245rnd; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.25 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:15:23 -0400 From: Milo Pschigoda To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Access Issue In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1241 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: milokp@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: milokp@gmail.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:27:25 -0400, Robert Rozema wrote: > Milo, > > Odd. I'd say you're right, but then, I can access it from multiple > locations, including Western. > > I might guess that your browser has javascript disabled, since when I > ran into the same problem you describe I've enabled javascript to > correct the problem. You've probably thought of this already . . . > It would almost have to be not-my-computer, because I can connect to another enCore based moo outside of WMU's network... A thought just struck me, is the MOO being hosted on the same server as the Webserver? I seem to recall the documentation mentioning that they must be on the same machine and thinking to myself, "That's wieard, I wonder why." MOOtcan tells me that the MOO is running on webapp01.it.wmich.edu, following address... drat, yes they are running on the same system. But on a good note, I did connect through Xpress [currently logged in as Shakespeare Guest] by entering the address http://webapp01.it.wmich.edu:7000/Xpress_client/vertical_layout/ directly into the address bar. I got the address from the javascript in the "login-window" frame from http://www.wmich.edu/teachenglish/encore . So, your MOO works, at least on campus and I have to assume off, but there is a problem with the ... login page javascript? That doesn't seem right. Unfortunatly now I am out of ideas. MilesP From djh@dmu.ac.uk Thu Oct 28 08:36:31 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 08:36:31 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A025BAD for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 08:36:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB021F13 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 08:36:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04513-01-96 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 08:36:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from dmu.ac.uk (motown.dmu.ac.uk [146.227.1.21]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7E039E9 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 08:36:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk (vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk [146.227.40.53]) by dmu.ac.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id i9SDWL0L005916; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:32:21 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (djh@localhost) by vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id i9SDWKmY028215; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:32:20 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk: djh owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 14:32:20 +0100 (BST) From: David James Houghton X-X-Sender: djh@vinku.hum.dmu.ac.uk To: Alexandre Borgia Cc: pwhitehouse@optusnet.com.au, encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Who moved ... (housekeeper) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-DMU-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-DMU-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: djh@dmu.ac.uk X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1242 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: djh@dmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: djh@dmu.ac.uk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore A I have successfully edited and compiled the housekeeper as suggested by Alexandre. However when I issue the command ;$housekeeper:continuous(); I get Error on line 1. DO I need the ; at the end of the line ? d. From milokp@gmail.com Thu Oct 28 18:49:37 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:49:37 -0500 (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B6ED5BC5 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:49:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3773281E for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:49:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([129.110.10.17]) by localhost (mf1 [10.110.10.13]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03571-01-57 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:49:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.205]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DE535C3 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:49:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1229858wri for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:49:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=kx+1EYgqSMKUlyRuSJAx2/uOd9jBp4YQRnz5LZb7I1HCGd0U+WVIIXA981Z18K+ySSKkK2GktuwHgbo1avQOz2qG1szBtXETWgz2T/pwkdhY5lgyO6WWMhm+hQf3nKJCAByhC5wnwy3n6oVo0OUgOawOTTBjoN2Kc/66aOZ4leE= Received: by 10.38.152.73 with SMTP id z73mr1621552rnd; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.72.25 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 19:49:32 -0400 From: Milo Pschigoda To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Access Issue In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p9 at utdallas.edu X-archive-position: 1243 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: milokp@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: milokp@gmail.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Now I really feel silly: Quick solution: disable pop-up blocking. I can't believe I didn't think of that before, but that fixed it here in a WMU lab. When I get home I'll try, but I have to assume, again, that it will work. Hope that helps, MilesP On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:15:23 -0400, Milo Pschigoda wrote: > On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 16:27:25 -0400, Robert Rozema wrote: > > Milo, > > > > Odd. I'd say you're right, but then, I can access it from multiple > > locations, including Western. > > > > I might guess that your browser has javascript disabled, since when I > > ran into the same problem you describe I've enabled javascript to > > correct the problem. You've probably thought of this already . . . > > > > It would almost have to be not-my-computer, because I can connect to > another enCore based moo outside of WMU's network... > > A thought just struck me, is the MOO being hosted on the same server > as the Webserver? I seem to recall the documentation mentioning that > they must be on the same machine and thinking to myself, "That's > wieard, I wonder why." MOOtcan tells me that the MOO is running on > webapp01.it.wmich.edu, following address... drat, yes they are running > on the same system. > > But on a good note, I did connect through Xpress [currently logged in > as Shakespeare Guest] by entering the address > http://webapp01.it.wmich.edu:7000/Xpress_client/vertical_layout/ > directly into the address bar. I got the address from the javascript > in the "login-window" frame from > http://www.wmich.edu/teachenglish/encore . So, your MOO works, at > least on campus and I have to assume off, but there is a problem with > the ... login page javascript? That doesn't seem right. > > Unfortunatly now I am out of ideas. > > MilesP >