From Lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Sat Jan 3 07:53:32 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 03 Jan 2004 07:53:33 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A956B5BAA for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 07:53:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8174AD6 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 07:53:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29640-02-7 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 07:53:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 3AFC4349B for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 07:53:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from irvin.accdvm.accd.edu [10.1.11.40] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Sat, 03 Jan 2004 07:50:36 CST Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20040103074528.00a61ec0@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Sender: Lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 07:52:31 -0600 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Lennie Irvin Subject: [encore] Moving a MOO to a new server? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 997 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Happy New Year everyone! I am seriously considering moving AlaMOO away from the clutches of my campus LAN administrator to a professionally hosted site for MUDs where I hope to receive more competent and reliable hosting support. I have questions about shifting a moo database to a new location, however. --what is involved with transfering a moo to a new server location? --does it matter that I am moving from a winmoo server to a lambdamoo server and from a Windows box to a Linux box? --One area I am confused about is dealing with ports. If my current ports are 7777 and 7000 and I am assigned different ones (say 8888 and 8000), how do I access my MOO? I appreciate your help. Thanks, Lennie L. Lennie Irvin Department of English, San Antonio College San Antonio, TX http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/ AlaMOO: http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/AlaMOO/ From aborgia@videotron.ca Sat Jan 3 12:47:03 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 03 Jan 2004 12:47:03 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7FC5BAA for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 12:47:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64934A1A for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 12:47:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07751-01-30 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 12:47:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from aeimail.aei.ca (mail.aei.ca [206.123.6.14]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D4F34C3 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 12:47:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from alex (dsl-132-120.aei.ca [66.36.132.120]) by aeimail.aei.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i03IksCL023390 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 13:46:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200401031846.i03IksCL023390@aeimail.aei.ca> From: "Alexandre Borgia" To: "enCore" Subject: [encore] Re: Moving a MOO to a new server? Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 13:50:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Thread-Index: AcPSAQqIex+TetsNRmyW4iVJ1LTy0AAI+lRQ In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20040103074528.00a61ec0@accdvm.accd.edu> X-archive-position: 998 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: aborgia@videotron.ca Precedence: bulk Reply-to: aborgia@videotron.ca List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Lennie, MOO Databases are not much dependant on server versions, and everything usually goes smoothly when moving it from one to another. I used to have WinMOO locally for testing purposes and never had problems loading a DB from an UNIX system. If I remember well, passwords have to be set again because the "crypt" function uses a different algorithm in WinMOO, but this issue might have been fixed over time. If it is the case, you should be able to boot the MOO server normally and get to the login screen, see players using the "who" command, but trying to "connect" will always give you an invalid user/password error. The first thing to do would be to login using the Emergency Wizard option and change your wizard player's password to a valid one. I.e.: ;#2.password = crypt("foo"); ... gives "foo" password to the ArchWizard. You should now be able to log normally using this player. There is now the problem of fixing passwords for all other users - usually you'll email new random passwords to everyone and invite them to change it upon first login. There are lots of ways to do it, should it happen don't hesitate to query back the list for help in this step :) As for "what is involved": when installing the new server simply follow your enCore and MOO Server installation instructions as if installing a new MOO. Once everything is set up, transfer your MOO Database to the new host and boot the server using it. You may not be able to connect via the web directly, so use telnet. Use @configure to set any option that might have changed (like addresses and ports). Once everything is set up, web access should work correctly. Also, don't forget to move custom web content (for instance, if you are using VASE for users to upload file. VASE would also need to be reconfigured I guess). Hope this help! - Alexandre Borgia -----Original Message----- From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] On Behalf Of Lennie Irvin Sent: 3 janvier 2004 08:53 To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Moving a MOO to a new server? Happy New Year everyone! I am seriously considering moving AlaMOO away from the clutches of my campus LAN administrator to a professionally hosted site for MUDs where I hope to receive more competent and reliable hosting support. I have questions about shifting a moo database to a new location, however. --what is involved with transfering a moo to a new server location? --does it matter that I am moving from a winmoo server to a lambdamoo server and from a Windows box to a Linux box? --One area I am confused about is dealing with ports. If my current ports are 7777 and 7000 and I am assigned different ones (say 8888 and 8000), how do I access my MOO? I appreciate your help. Thanks, Lennie L. Lennie Irvin Department of English, San Antonio College San Antonio, TX http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/ AlaMOO: http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/AlaMOO/ From egoff@mindspring.com Sat Jan 3 13:17:04 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 03 Jan 2004 13:17:04 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A455BAA for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 13:17:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032AB498D for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 13:17:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09063-01-27 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 13:17:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.60]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C122DD9 for ; Sat, 3 Jan 2004 13:17:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from [192.168.167.39] (helo=wamui01.slb.atl.earthlink.net) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AcrGe-0002r6-00; Sat, 03 Jan 2004 14:17:00 -0500 Message-ID: <13665999.1073157420360.JavaMail.root@wamui01.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 14:17:00 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: egoff@mindspring.com To: aborgia@videotron.ca, enCore Subject: [encore] Re: Moving a MOO to a new server? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-archive-position: 999 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: egoff@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: egoff@mindspring.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore -----Original Message----- From: Alexandre Borgia Sent: Jan 3, 2004 1:50 PM To: enCore Subject: [encore] Re: Moving a MOO to a new server? Hi Lennie, MOO Databases are not much dependant on server versions, and everything usually goes smoothly when moving it from one to another. I used to have WinMOO locally for testing purposes and never had problems loading a DB from an UNIX system. If I remember well, passwords have to be set again because the "crypt" function uses a different algorithm in WinMOO, but this issue might have been fixed over time. Everything you said to lennie sounds good to me, except the above. I seem to remember that windows likes to add CR and LF to its database's during checkpoint and Linxu DOES NOT like them. It will in fact panic on boot. I've always had to use a dos2unix converter to run a winmoo DB in a *nix box. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. The rest sounds good. FYI The part about the ports doesn't matter except for chaning settings in the setup and in vase if your using it or any other port specific parts of the moo. REstarting the moo on 8000 instead of 7000 just means the users need the new port for telnet. ShadowDragon From cynthiah@utdallas.edu Fri Jan 9 08:17:26 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:17:27 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.5]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A24BC5BAA for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:17:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from [129.177.211.162] (dbnafta.hf.uib.no [129.177.211.162]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A2A63891A6 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:16:16 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 15:16:37 +0100 Subject: [encore] Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik! From: Cynthia Haynes To: encore Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3156506198_1034689" X-archive-position: 1000 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: cynthiah@utdallas.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cynthiah@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3156506198_1034689 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable It is with great pleasure that I announce the successful defense of Jan Run= e Holmevik's dissertation today, and the conferring of his doctor art degree from the University of Bergen, Norway. Jan delivered a trial lecture on Jan 8th in Bergen on "The Use and Significance of MOOs for Education in the Humanities." And today, Jan 9th, he gave a presentation on his dissertation= , titled: TraceBack: On MOOs, Open Source, and the Humanities. The members of his committee were Professor Dag Elgesem (Univ of Bergen), Professor =D8yvind Thomassen (Univ of Trondheim, Norway), and Professor Jay David Bolter (Georgia Tech Univ). Congratulations Dr. Holmevik! All the best, Cynthia __Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and Writing___________________ University of Texas at Dallas cynthiah@utdallas.edu School of Arts & Humanities http://www.utdallas.edu/~cynthiah PO Box 830688-JO 31 http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000 Richardson, TX 75083-0688 (O)972-883-6340 (F)972-883-2989 --B_3156506198_1034689 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik! It is with great pleasure that I announce the successful= defense of Jan Rune Holmevik's dissertation today, and the conferring of hi= s doctor art degree from the University of Bergen, Norway. Jan delivered a t= rial lecture on Jan 8th in Bergen on "The Use and Significance of MOOs = for Education in the Humanities." And today, Jan 9th, he gave a present= ation on his dissertation, titled: TraceBack: On MOOs, Open Source, and t= he Humanities. The members of his committee were Professor Dag Elgesem (= Univ of Bergen), Professor Øyvind Thomassen (Univ of Trondheim, Norwa= y), and Professor Jay David Bolter (Georgia Tech Univ).

Congratulations Dr. Holmevik!

All the best,

Cynthia

__Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and Writing___________________
University of Texas at Dallas        &nb= sp;          cynthiah@utda= llas.edu
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 --B_3156506198_1034689-- From sands@uwm.edu Fri Jan 9 08:21:57 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:21:57 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0962A5BAA for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:21:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56F84F1D; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:21:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28259-01-48; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:21:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.166.115]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F1D534C4; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:21:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from PETER (CPE-65-31-138-165.wi.rr.com [65.31.138.165]) by ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id i09ELfbS001534; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:21:50 -0600 (CST) From: "Peter Sands" To: , "'encore'" Subject: [encore] Re: Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik! Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:21:43 -0600 Message-ID: <001901c3d6bb$eb127670$230110ac@PETER> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01C3D689.A0780670" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-archive-position: 1001 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: sands@uwm.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: sands@uwm.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C3D689.A0780670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WOO HOO! =20 Congrats Jan! =20 __________ Peter Sands, UW-Milwaukee sands@uwm.edu || http://www.uwm.edu/~sands English Department || http://www.uwm.edu/Dept/English=20 414.229.4416 || 414.229.2643 (fax)=20 Editor, H-UTOPIA || http://www2.h-net.msu.edu/~utopia/ -----Original Message----- From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] On Behalf Of Cynthia Haynes Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:17 AM To: encore Subject: [encore] Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik! It is with great pleasure that I announce the successful defense of Jan = Rune Holmevik's dissertation today, and the conferring of his doctor art = degree from the University of Bergen, Norway. Jan delivered a trial lecture on = Jan 8th in Bergen on "The Use and Significance of MOOs for Education in the Humanities." And today, Jan 9th, he gave a presentation on his = dissertation, titled: TraceBack: On MOOs, Open Source, and the Humanities. The members = of his committee were Professor Dag Elgesem (Univ of Bergen), Professor = =D8yvind Thomassen (Univ of Trondheim, Norway), and Professor Jay David Bolter (Georgia Tech Univ). Congratulations Dr. Holmevik!=20 All the best, Cynthia __Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and Writing___________________ University of Texas at Dallas cynthiah@utdallas.edu=20 School of Arts & Humanities http://www.utdallas.edu/~cynthiah PO Box 830688-JO 31 http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000 Richardson, TX 75083-0688 (O)972-883-6340 (F)972-883-2989 ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C3D689.A0780670 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
WOO=20 HOO!
 
Congrats Jan!
 

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-----Original Message-----
From:=20 encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] On = Behalf Of=20 Cynthia Haynes
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:17=20 AM
To: encore
Subject: [encore] Congratulations to = Dr. Jan=20 Rune Holmevik!

It is with great = pleasure=20 that I announce the successful defense of Jan Rune Holmevik's = dissertation=20 today, and the conferring of his doctor art degree from the University = of=20 Bergen, Norway. Jan delivered a trial lecture on Jan 8th in Bergen on = "The Use=20 and Significance of MOOs for Education in the Humanities." And today, = Jan 9th,=20 he gave a presentation on his dissertation, titled: TraceBack: On = MOOs,=20 Open Source, and the Humanities. The members of his committee were = Professor Dag Elgesem (Univ of Bergen), Professor =D8yvind Thomassen = (Univ of=20 Trondheim, Norway), and Professor Jay David Bolter (Georgia Tech=20 Univ).

Congratulations Dr. Holmevik!

All the=20 best,

Cynthia

__Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and = Writing___________________
University of Texas at Dallas=20 =             &= nbsp;     cynthiah@utdallas.edu=20
School of Arts & Humanities=20 =         http://www.utdallas.edu/~= cynthiah=20          
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------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C3D689.A0780670-- From tb0mxd1@corn.cso.niu.edu Fri Jan 9 08:22:50 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:22:50 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E922F5BAA for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:22:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53EA4F21; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:22:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28133-01-83; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:22:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D2B3497; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:22:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i09EMlDe005387; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:22:47 -0600 (CST) Received: (from tb0mxd1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i09EMlNN005386; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:22:47 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:22:47 -0600 (CST) From: day michael Message-Id: <200401091422.i09EMlNN005386@corn.cso.niu.edu> To: cynthiah@utdallas.edu, encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik! X-archive-position: 1002 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: tb0mxd1@corn.cso.niu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: tb0mxd1@corn.cso.niu.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Three cheers for Jan! Hip hip hooray! Hip hip hooray! Hip hip HOORAY! My warmest congratulations to Dr. Holmevik. Michael From lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Fri Jan 9 08:38:42 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:38:42 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850725BAA for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:38:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D2BABCB for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:38:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28824-01-88 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:38:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D9AB3497 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:38:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from GH208-LIRVIN.accdvm.accd.edu [10.11.36.44] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:35:45 CST Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20040109083520.023fa2a8@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:37:25 -0600 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Lennie Irvin Subject: [encore] Re: Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-archive-position: 1003 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Bravo Jan!  A job well done! From one who has benefited from all you work, I send you my congratulations!

Lennie

At 03:16 PM 1/9/2004 +0100, you wrote:
It is with great pleasure that I announce the successful defense of Jan Rune Holmevik's dissertation today, and the conferring of his doctor art degree from the University of Bergen, Norway. Jan delivered a trial lecture on Jan 8th in Bergen on "The Use and Significance of MOOs for Education in the Humanities." And today, Jan 9th, he gave a presentation on his dissertation, titled: TraceBack: On MOOs, Open Source, and the Humanities. The members of his committee were Professor Dag Elgesem (Univ of Bergen), Professor =D8yvind Thomassen (Univ of Trondheim, Norway), and Professor Jay David Bolter (Georgia Tech Univ).

Congratulations Dr. Holmevik!

All the best,

Cynthia

__Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and Writing___________________
University of Texas at Dallas           &nbs= p;       cynthiah@utdallas.edu
School of Arts & Humanities         http://www.= utdallas.edu/~cynthiah        &n= bsp;
PO Box 830688-JO 31            &n= bsp;      http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000
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L. Lennie Irvin
English Instructor, San Antonio College
1300 San Pedro Ave.
San Antonio, TX 78212
Lirvin@accd.edu
http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/

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 From kschwien@tcd.ie Fri Jan 9 08:44:56 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:44:56 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299115BAA for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:44:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058EEAC27 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:44:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29860-01-18 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:44:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from dux1.tcd.ie (dux1.tcd.ie [134.226.1.23]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9FB2DD7 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:44:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from lcs090199 (lcs090199.artsl.tcd.ie [134.226.90.199]) by dux1.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0024145B for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 14:44:54 +0000 (GMT) From: "Klaus Schwienhorst" To: encore@utdallas.edu Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 14:43:54 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [encore] Re: Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik! Message-ID: <3FFEBE2A.26457.20287@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <5.2.1.1.0.20040109083520.023fa2a8@accdvm.accd.edu> References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.12a) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body X-archive-position: 1004 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: kschwien@tcd.ie Precedence: bulk Reply-to: kschwien@tcd.ie List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Jan, congratulations!!! And about bloody time ;-) Klaus------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Klaus Schwienhorst Language Modules Co-ordinator Centre for Language and Communication Studies Arts Building Trinity College Dublin 2 Ireland Phone: Ireland +1 6083316 Fax: Ireland +1 6082941 Email: kschwien@tcd.ie MOO: Klaus at CLCS Campus (http://kontakt.tcd.ie:7000) Homepage: http://www.tcd.ie/CLCS/assistants/kschwien.html ------------------------------------------------------- From pkhowe@office.uncg.edu Fri Jan 9 09:16:22 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:16:22 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 706D85BAA for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:16:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF0BACD0 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:16:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01187-01-66 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:16:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from hygeia.uncg.edu (hygeia.uncg.edu [152.13.2.96]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCAA34C7 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:16:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from office.uncg.edu (office.uncg.edu [152.13.5.17]) by hygeia.uncg.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i09FGIa9008007 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:16:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from UNCG3-MTA by office.uncg.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:16:18 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.2 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:15:45 -0500 From: "Pamela Howe" To: Subject: [encore] Re: Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline X-RAVMilter-Version: 8.4.2(snapshot 20021217) (hygeia) X-archive-position: 1005 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: pkhowe@office.uncg.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: pkhowe@office.uncg.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Congratulations! Dr. Holmevik! Pamela Howe MEd. Instructional Technology Consultant School of Human Environmental Sciences 336-256-0294 pkhowe@uncg.edu >>> Cynthia Haynes 01/09/04 09:16AM >>> It is with great pleasure that I announce the successful defense of Jan Rune Holmevik's dissertation today, and the conferring of his doctor art degree from the University of Bergen, Norway. Jan delivered a trial lecture on Jan 8th in Bergen on "The Use and Significance of MOOs for Education in the Humanities." And today, Jan 9th, he gave a presentation on his dissertation, titled: TraceBack: On MOOs, Open Source, and the Humanities. The members of his committee were Professor Dag Elgesem (Univ of Bergen), Professor Øyvind Thomassen (Univ of Trondheim, Norway), and Professor Jay David Bolter (Georgia Tech Univ). Congratulations Dr. Holmevik! All the best, Cynthia __Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and Writing___________________ University of Texas at Dallas cynthiah@utdallas.edu School of Arts & Humanities http://www.utdallas.edu/~cynthiah PO Box 830688-JO 31 http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000 Richardson, TX 75083-0688 (O)972-883-6340 (F)972-883-2989 From jeank@email.arizona.edu Fri Jan 9 09:26:53 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:26:53 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DE7D5BAA for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:26:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204ABADD5 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:26:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01716-01-56 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:26:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (deagol.email.Arizona.EDU [128.196.133.142]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AF4834F6 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:26:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from JEAN2 (unknown [150.135.65.94]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 2BFFA2751EB for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:26:49 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <005301c3d6c4$ffe3d040$5e418796@ltc.arizona.edu> From: "jeank" To: Subject: [encore] Fw: Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik! Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 08:26:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0050_01C3D68A.5372A8C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at email.arizona.edu X-archive-position: 1006 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jeank@email.arizona.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jeank@email.arizona.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C3D68A.5372A8C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik! Congratulations Dr. Homevik! - and a heartfelt thank you for the years = of your hard work and dedication in the pursuit of this research and = practical technology. So, when's the dissertation available to us? *wink* Jean Jean Kreis, M.Ed., M.A. EDUCAUSE NLII 2004 Fellow University of Arizona Program Coordinator, Sr. Web-Based Instructional Tools Learning Technologies Center, Rm. 337 PO Box 21007 1077 N. Highland Ave. Tucson, AZ 85721-0073 phone 520.626.8071 fax 520.626.8220 jeank@u.arizona.edu http://www.educause.edu/nlii ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Cynthia Haynes=20 To: encore=20 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 7:16 AM Subject: [encore] Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik! It is with great pleasure that I announce the successful defense of = Jan Rune Holmevik's dissertation today, and the conferring of his doctor = art degree from the University of Bergen, Norway. Jan delivered a trial = lecture on Jan 8th in Bergen on "The Use and Significance of MOOs for = Education in the Humanities." And today, Jan 9th, he gave a presentation = on his dissertation, titled: TraceBack: On MOOs, Open Source, and the = Humanities. The members of his committee were Professor Dag Elgesem = (Univ of Bergen), Professor =D8yvind Thomassen (Univ of Trondheim, = Norway), and Professor Jay David Bolter (Georgia Tech Univ). Congratulations Dr. Holmevik!=20 All the best, Cynthia __Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and Writing___________________ University of Texas at Dallas cynthiah@utdallas.edu=20 School of Arts & Humanities http://www.utdallas.edu/~cynthiah = =20 PO Box 830688-JO 31 http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000 Richardson, TX 75083-0688 (O)972-883-6340 (F)972-883-2989 ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C3D68A.5372A8C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik!


Congratulations Dr. = Homevik! - and a=20 heartfelt thank you for the years of your hard work and dedication in = the=20 pursuit of this research and practical technology.
 
So, when's the dissertation = available to us?=20 *wink*
 
Jean
 
Jean Kreis, M.Ed., M.A.
EDUCAUSE = NLII 2004=20 Fellow
 
University of Arizona
Program = Coordinator,=20 Sr.
Web-Based Instructional Tools
Learning Technologies Center, = Rm.=20 337
PO Box 21007
1077 N. Highland Ave.
Tucson, AZ = 85721-0073
phone=20 520.626.8071
fax 520.626.8220
jeank@u.arizona.edu
http://www.educause.edu/nlii
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Cynthia=20 Haynes
To: encore
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 = 7:16=20 AM
Subject: [encore] = Congratulations to Dr.=20 Jan Rune Holmevik!

It is with great pleasure that I = announce the=20 successful defense of Jan Rune Holmevik's dissertation today, and the=20 conferring of his doctor art degree from the University of Bergen, = Norway. Jan=20 delivered a trial lecture on Jan 8th in Bergen on "The Use and = Significance of=20 MOOs for Education in the Humanities." And today, Jan 9th, he gave a=20 presentation on his dissertation, titled: TraceBack: On MOOs, Open = Source,=20 and the Humanities. The members of his committee were Professor = Dag=20 Elgesem (Univ of Bergen), Professor =D8yvind Thomassen (Univ of = Trondheim,=20 Norway), and Professor Jay David Bolter (Georgia Tech=20 Univ).

Congratulations Dr. Holmevik!

All the=20 best,

Cynthia

__Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and = Writing___________________
University of Texas at Dallas=20 =             &= nbsp;     cynthiah@utdallas.edu=20
School of Arts & Humanities=20 =         http://www.utdallas.edu/~= cynthiah=20          
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Ric= hardson,=20 TX 75083-0688=20 =             (= O)972-883-6340=20 = (F)972-883-2989






 ------=_NextPart_000_0050_01C3D68A.5372A8C0-- From Barry.Maid@asu.edu Fri Jan 9 09:32:43 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:32:43 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251835BAA for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:32:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE055846 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:32:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02552-01-28 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:32:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from post5.inre.asu.edu (post5.inre.asu.edu [129.219.110.120]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21FB23457 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:32:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from conversion.post5.inre.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1-1X6 #30769) id <0HR800J01B6CHS@asu.edu> for encore@utdallas.edu; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:32:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from ex4.asurite.ad.asu.edu (ex4.asurite.ad.asu.edu [129.219.10.248]) by asu.edu (PMDF V6.1-1X6 #30769) with ESMTP id <0HR800I6BB6CN1@asu.edu> for encore@utdallas.edu; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:32:36 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 08:32:36 -0700 From: Barry Maid Subject: [encore] Re: Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik! To: encore Message-id: <43BDABC497A27647AD8A163A3098842003044BD6@ex4.asurite.ad.asu.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_pfT7kR6sOiMKrCUH6CXAmg)" Thread-Topic: [encore] Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik! Thread-Index: AcPWu11dWa2qvq/6TFulHordSK0CcQAClkrg Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-archive-position: 1007 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Barry.Maid@asu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Barry.Maid@asu.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_pfT7kR6sOiMKrCUH6CXAmg) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Jan-- =20 Congratulations! This is great news. =20 Barry Barry.Maid@asu.edu =20 --Boundary_(ID_pfT7kR6sOiMKrCUH6CXAmg) Content-type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik!
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Barry.Maid@asu.edu   --Boundary_(ID_pfT7kR6sOiMKrCUH6CXAmg)-- From claudijo.borovic@mmedu.net Fri Jan 9 09:46:40 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 09 Jan 2004 09:46:40 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E5A5BAA for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:46:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61094F2E for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:46:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03333-01-55 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:46:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from eden.grace.se (unknown [193.14.11.99]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF61C34C3 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:46:35 -0600 (CST) Message-id: Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 16:46:41 +0100 Subject: [encore] Re: Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik! Cc: encore From: "Claudijo Borovic" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 1008 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: claudijo.borovic@mmedu.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: claudijo.borovic@mmedu.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Great news :) Congratulations!!! //Claudijo From RTKochJr@verizon.net Fri Jan 9 10:03:39 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:03:42 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD7645BAA for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:03:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E13EAB41; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:03:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04335-01-45; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:03:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from out009.verizon.net (out009pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.131]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C38B2DD7; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:03:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from home ([141.151.145.26]) by out009.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20040109160336.WFMW29632.out009.verizon.net@home>; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:03:36 -0600 From: "Robert T. Koch Jr." To: , "encore" Subject: [encore] Re: Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik! Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:03:56 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C3D6A0.46ECC7A0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out009.verizon.net from [141.151.145.26] at Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:03:35 -0600 X-archive-position: 1009 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: RTKochJr@verizon.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: RTKochJr@verizon.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C3D6A0.46ECC7A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik!Congratulations! Rob -----Original Message----- From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu]On Behalf Of Cynthia Haynes Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 9:17 AM To: encore Subject: [encore] Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik! It is with great pleasure that I announce the successful defense of Jan Rune Holmevik's dissertation today, and the conferring of his doctor art degree from the University of Bergen, Norway. Jan delivered a trial lecture on Jan 8th in Bergen on "The Use and Significance of MOOs for Education in the Humanities." And today, Jan 9th, he gave a presentation on his dissertation, titled: TraceBack: On MOOs, Open Source, and the Humanities. The members of his committee were Professor Dag Elgesem (Univ of Bergen), Professor Øyvind Thomassen (Univ of Trondheim, Norway), and Professor Jay David Bolter (Georgia Tech Univ). Congratulations Dr. Holmevik! All the best, Cynthia __Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and Writing___________________ University of Texas at Dallas cynthiah@utdallas.edu School of Arts & Humanities http://www.utdallas.edu/~cynthiah PO Box 830688-JO 31 http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000 Richardson, TX 75083-0688 (O)972-883-6340 (F)972-883-2989 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C3D6A0.46ECC7A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik!
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Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: = encore-bounce@utdallas.edu=20 [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu]On Behalf Of Cynthia=20 Haynes
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 9:17 AM
To:=20 encore
Subject: [encore] Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune=20 Holmevik!

It is with great = pleasure that=20 I announce the successful defense of Jan Rune Holmevik's dissertation = today,=20 and the conferring of his doctor art degree from the University of = Bergen,=20 Norway. Jan delivered a trial lecture on Jan 8th in Bergen on "The Use = and=20 Significance of MOOs for Education in the Humanities." And today, Jan = 9th, he=20 gave a presentation on his dissertation, titled: TraceBack: On = MOOs, Open=20 Source, and the Humanities. The members of his committee were = Professor=20 Dag Elgesem (Univ of Bergen), Professor =D8yvind Thomassen (Univ of = Trondheim,=20 Norway), and Professor Jay David Bolter (Georgia Tech=20 Univ).

Congratulations Dr. Holmevik!

All the=20 best,

Cynthia

__Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and = Writing___________________
University of Texas at Dallas=20 =             &= nbsp;     cynthiah@utdallas.edu=20
School of Arts & Humanities=20 =         http://www.utdallas.edu/~= cynthiah=20          
PO Box = 830688-JO 31=20 =             &= nbsp;     http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000
Ric= hardson,=20 TX 75083-0688=20 =             (= O)972-883-6340=20 = (F)972-883-2989






------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C3D6A0.46ECC7A0-- From kelliott@utdallas.edu Fri Jan 9 10:08:48 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:08:48 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.5]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D847E5BAA for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:08:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from anylion (crtntx1-ar2-4-47-034-164.crtntx1.dsl-verizon.net [4.47.34.164]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id B27503892ED for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:08:46 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <000d01c3d6ca$dcd52580$a4222f04@dslverizon.net> From: "Ken Elliott" To: "encore" References: Subject: [encore] Re: Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik! Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:08:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C3D698.91F79200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-archive-position: 1010 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: kelliott@utdallas.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: kelliott@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C3D698.91F79200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik!Great work, Jan! You're an = inspiration! -- Kenneth Elliott PhD Program Arts and Humanities The University of Texas at Dallas ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Cynthia Haynes=20 To: encore=20 Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:16 AM Subject: [encore] Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik! It is with great pleasure that I announce the successful defense of = Jan Rune Holmevik's dissertation today, and the conferring of his doctor = art degree from the University of Bergen, Norway. Jan delivered a trial = lecture on Jan 8th in Bergen on "The Use and Significance of MOOs for = Education in the Humanities." And today, Jan 9th, he gave a presentation = on his dissertation, titled: TraceBack: On MOOs, Open Source, and the = Humanities. The members of his committee were Professor Dag Elgesem = (Univ of Bergen), Professor =D8yvind Thomassen (Univ of Trondheim, = Norway), and Professor Jay David Bolter (Georgia Tech Univ). Congratulations Dr. Holmevik!=20 All the best, Cynthia __Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and Writing___________________ University of Texas at Dallas cynthiah@utdallas.edu=20 School of Arts & Humanities http://www.utdallas.edu/~cynthiah = =20 PO Box 830688-JO 31 http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000 Richardson, TX 75083-0688 (O)972-883-6340 (F)972-883-2989 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C3D698.91F79200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik!
Great work, Jan!  You're an=20 inspiration!
--
Kenneth Elliott
PhD Program = Arts and=20 Humanities
The University of Texas at Dallas
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Cynthia=20 Haynes
To: encore
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 = 8:16=20 AM
Subject: [encore] = Congratulations to Dr.=20 Jan Rune Holmevik!

It is with great pleasure that I = announce the=20 successful defense of Jan Rune Holmevik's dissertation today, and the=20 conferring of his doctor art degree from the University of Bergen, = Norway. Jan=20 delivered a trial lecture on Jan 8th in Bergen on "The Use and = Significance of=20 MOOs for Education in the Humanities." And today, Jan 9th, he gave a=20 presentation on his dissertation, titled: TraceBack: On MOOs, Open = Source,=20 and the Humanities. The members of his committee were Professor = Dag=20 Elgesem (Univ of Bergen), Professor =D8yvind Thomassen (Univ of = Trondheim,=20 Norway), and Professor Jay David Bolter (Georgia Tech=20 Univ).

Congratulations Dr. Holmevik!

All the=20 best,

Cynthia

__Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and = Writing___________________
University of Texas at Dallas=20 =             &= nbsp;     cynthiah@utdallas.edu=20
School of Arts & Humanities=20 =         http://www.utdallas.edu/~= cynthiah=20          
PO Box = 830688-JO 31=20 =             &= nbsp;     http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000
Ric= hardson,=20 TX 75083-0688=20 =             (= O)972-883-6340=20 = (F)972-883-2989






 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C3D698.91F79200-- From cynthiah@utdallas.edu Fri Jan 9 10:12:04 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:12:04 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.5]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 593A05BAA for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:12:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from [129.177.211.162] (dbnafta.hf.uib.no [129.177.211.162]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E3C388F89 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:12:03 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 17:12:25 +0100 Subject: [encore] Announcements from Dr. Jan From: Cynthia Haynes To: encore Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1011 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: cynthiah@utdallas.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cynthiah@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Let me first of all thank everyone for the warm congratulations on my dissertation defense today! I would like to commemorate this day with the following two releases: 1) My dissertation _TraceBack: MOO, Open Source, and the Humanities_ has been released today under the Open Publication License. It is available in PDF format (343 pages) and can be downloaded from the enCore FTP archive. 2) enCore version 4.0 enCore version 4.0 represents a total overhaul of the Xpress client. While the interface has only received minor cosmetic improvements, all code generated by the system has been converted to XHTML 1.0 and a new set of utility verbs are now being used for tagging. This version introduces added flexibility such as screen resizing and much more. A new and improved version of the MOO mailer by Daniel Jung is also included. enCore 4.0 has been successfully tested with Mozilla/Firebird, Safari 1.1.1, and IE 5.2 on Mac OS X, and Internet Explorer 6.0 and Mozilla 1.5 on Windows. Please be advised that new features in this release may break compatibility with older browsers. Please NOTE: Downloading via the web site does not seem to work at the moment. I will have to talk to our sys admin when I get back to Texas next week, but in the mean time you can download via FTP. Open your FTP program and go to ftp.utdallas.edu Connect as anonymous and give your email as password Change directory to /pub/ah/moo Download to your heart's content! Enjoy, Dr. Jan ;) ------------ Changelog enCore version 4.0 - Changed argument separator from '&' to ';' at the recommendation of W3C. Please note, if you have verbs that send URL encoded data you *must* update the arg separator to ; or else your code will break. - Implemented an improved MOO mailer package by Daniel Jung. New features include searching, printing, mail preview pane, and general layout improvements. Thanks MUCH Daniel! - Transitioned from HTML to XHTM 1.0. Removed about 98% of all tagging from the code and created a set of new markup verbs on $encore_web_utils to handle all markup. Converted all tags from upper- to lowercase, enclosed all values in quotemarks, closed all tags, also empty elements. I.e Heckuva job ;) 99% of the system now validates as XHTML 1.0 Transitional. NOTE TO PROGRAMMERS: You are strongly encouraged to use the new markup verbs instead of writing tags directly in your code. - Removed property $httpd.expires - Added property $httpd.charset with value "ISO-8859-1" - Removed references to path, domain, and expires from $httpd:generate_server_response_header. This was done in order to set cookies properly in certain browsers such as Safari. This information is optional in the cookie header. - Added 'widescreen' options to $xpress_client.screen_sizes - Made Xpress client window resizable. - Added a : separator to the cookie string in order to remove the white space that was there before. This was done to achieve better standards comliance. Affected verbs are $Xpress_client:initialize_session (cookie encoding) and $httpd:authenticate (cookie decoding) - Removed MacOS specific checks from $Xpress_client:initialize_session. This code was originally added to deal with older versions of MSIE and Netscape. Newer versions of both browsers has made the check obsolete. These changes has made it possible to run Xpress in many more browsers. I have successfully tested this version of enCore in Mozilla/Firebird, Safari 1.1.1, and IE 5.2 on Mac OS X, and Internet Explorer 6.0 and Mozilla 1.5 on Windows. Please note that this means that enCore 4.0 will probably no longer work with some older browsers. - Simplified the login form generated by $xpress_login:login. Newer browsers has made the checks performed by the old code obsolete. - Changed layout of all tabular data in the system via css. - Using CSS instead of table for layout. Exception for tabular data where an improved version of $encore_web_utils:generate_table is still used. - Created new place holder named $xpress_misc for miscellaneous Xpress verbs and properties. This is a CGI application which means that it accepts unauthenticated requests. If your verbs require authentication to not put them here! - And many more tweaks to the interface. From roxanne@email.arizona.edu Fri Jan 9 10:58:30 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 09 Jan 2004 10:58:30 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C375BAA for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:58:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E0E9245C for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:58:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07751-01-85 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:58:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from breaker.dakotacom.net (breaker.dakotacom.net [66.192.152.146]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2577B2DD7 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:58:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from rmountford1836 (ppp166.usr02.tus.dakotacom.net [69.9.28.167]) by breaker.dakotacom.net (8.12.2/x.y.z) with SMTP id i09GwNiS010063 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:58:24 -0700 (MST) X-Sent-Via: DakotaCom.NET Message-ID: <007701c3d6c9$a332eca0$004ffea9@rmountford1836> From: "Roxanne Mountford" To: References: Subject: [encore] Re: Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik! Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 09:59:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-archive-position: 1012 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: roxanne@email.arizona.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: roxanne@email.arizona.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik!Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah! Congratulations on a job well done, Jan! xo, Roxanne & OldPuebloMOO "Do not say that your wisdom and my ignorance belong to opposing worlds. Look: China and Japan, but there are not two skies." --Muso Soseki (trans. by W. S. Merwin & Soiku Shigematsu) Roxanne Mountford Associate Professor Department of English University of Arizona Homepage: http://www.u.arizona.edu/~roxanne/ OldPuebloMOO: http://oldpueblomoo.arizona.edu/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Cynthia Haynes To: encore Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:16 AM Subject: [encore] Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik! It is with great pleasure that I announce the successful defense of Jan Rune Holmevik's dissertation today, and the conferring of his doctor art degree from the University of Bergen, Norway. Jan delivered a trial lecture on Jan 8th in Bergen on "The Use and Significance of MOOs for Education in the Humanities." And today, Jan 9th, he gave a presentation on his dissertation, titled: TraceBack: On MOOs, Open Source, and the Humanities. The members of his committee were Professor Dag Elgesem (Univ of Bergen), Professor Øyvind Thomassen (Univ of Trondheim, Norway), and Professor Jay David Bolter (Georgia Tech Univ). Congratulations Dr. Holmevik! All the best, Cynthia __Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and Writing___________________ University of Texas at Dallas cynthiah@utdallas.edu School of Arts & Humanities http://www.utdallas.edu/~cynthiah PO Box 830688-JO 31 http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000 Richardson, TX 75083-0688 (O)972-883-6340 (F)972-883-2989 From Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Fri Jan 9 11:05:05 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 09 Jan 2004 11:05:06 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF75E5BAA for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:05:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E8350E0 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:05:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08424-01-73 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:05:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailhub4.dartmouth.edu (mailhub4.Dartmouth.EDU [129.170.17.94]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA8B34AD for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:05:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from [129.170.90.74] (moneil.Kiewit.dartmouth.edu [129.170.90.74]) by mailhub4.dartmouth.edu (8.12.10+DND/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i09H50CW025355 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:05:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Mark A. O'Neil" Subject: [encore] Re: Announcements from Dr. Jan Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:05:02 -0500 To: encore X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) X-MailScanner: No virus detected by mailhub4.Dartmouth.EDU X-archive-position: 1013 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Very fine news indeed - Congratulations Jan! -m > Let me first of all thank everyone for the warm congratulations on my > dissertation defense today! From jan.holmevik@uib.no Fri Jan 9 11:24:34 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 09 Jan 2004 11:24:34 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A546B5BAA for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:24:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49BB2AB48 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:24:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 10355-01-23 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:24:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6CE334AC for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 11:24:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from ([129.177.79.123]) [129.177.79.123] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AeyLd-0001D8-00; Fri, 09 Jan 2004 16:14:53 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 16:14:52 +0100 Subject: [encore] Release announcements From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: b2ea4691df4476e834ec9106b9c1971b http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: -4.6 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; * 1.2 -- BODY: Message is 0% to 10% HTML * 0.1 -- BODY: HTML included in message * 3.1 -- BODY: Contains an ASCII-formatted form * -9.0 -- Message received from UIB X-archive-position: 1014 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Let me first of all thank everyone for the warm congratulations on my dissertation defense today! I would like to commemorate this day with the following two releases: 1) My dissertation _TraceBack: MOO, Open Source, and the Humanities_ has been released today under the Open Publication License. It is available in PDF format (343 pages) and can be downloaded from the enCore FTP archive. 2) enCore version 4.0 enCore version 4.0 represents a total overhaul of the Xpress client. While the interface has only received minor cosmetic improvements, all code generated by the system has been converted to XHTML 1.0 and a new set of utility verbs are now being used for tagging. This version introduces added flexibility such as screen resizing and much more. A new and improved version of the MOO mailer by Daniel Jung is also included. enCore 4.0 has been successfully tested with Mozilla/Firebird, Safari 1.1.1, and IE 5.2 on Mac OS X, and Internet Explorer 6.0 and Mozilla 1.5 on Windows. Please be advised that new features in this release may break compatibility with older browsers. Please NOTE: Downloading via the web site does not seem to work at the moment. I will have to talk to our sys admin when I get back to Texas next week, but in the mean time you can download via FTP. Open your FTP program and go to ftp.utdallas.edu Connect as anonymous and give your email as password Change directory to /pub/ah/moo Download to your heart's content! Enjoy, Dr. Jan ;) ------------ Changelog enCore version 4.0 - Changed argument separator from '&' to ';' at the recommendation of W3C. Please note, if you have verbs that send URL encoded data you *must* update the arg separator to ; or else your code will break. - Implemented an improved MOO mailer package by Daniel Jung. New features include searching, printing, mail preview pane, and general layout improvements. Thanks MUCH Daniel! - Transitioned from HTML to XHTM 1.0. Removed about 98% of all tagging from the code and created a set of new markup verbs on $encore_web_utils to handle all markup. Converted all tags from upper- to lowercase, enclosed all values in quotemarks, closed all tags, also empty elements. I.e
Heckuva job ;) 99% of the system now validates as XHTML 1.0 Transitional. NOTE TO PROGRAMMERS: You are strongly encouraged to use the new markup verbs instead of writing tags directly in your code. - Removed property $httpd.expires - Added property $httpd.charset with value "ISO-8859-1" - Removed references to path, domain, and expires from $httpd:generate_server_response_header. This was done in order to set cookies properly in certain browsers such as Safari. This information is optional in the cookie header. - Added 'widescreen' options to $xpress_client.screen_sizes - Made Xpress client window resizable. - Added a : separator to the cookie string in order to remove the white space that was there before. This was done to achieve better standards comliance. Affected verbs are $Xpress_client:initialize_session (cookie encoding) and $httpd:authenticate (cookie decoding) - Removed MacOS specific checks from $Xpress_client:initialize_session. This code was originally added to deal with older versions of MSIE and Netscape. Newer versions of both browsers has made the check obsolete. These changes has made it possible to run Xpress in many more browsers. I have successfully tested this version of enCore in Mozilla/Firebird, Safari 1.1.1, and IE 5.2 on Mac OS X, and Internet Explorer 6.0 and Mozilla 1.5 on Windows. Please note that this means that enCore 4.0 will probably no longer work with some older browsers. - Simplified the login form generated by $xpress_login:login. Newer browsers has made the checks performed by the old code obsolete. - Changed layout of all tabular data in the system via css. - Using CSS instead of table for layout. Exception for tabular data where an improved version of $encore_web_utils:generate_table is still used. - Created new place holder named $xpress_misc for miscellaneous Xpress verbs and properties. This is a CGI application which means that it accepts unauthenticated requests. If your verbs require authentication to not put them here! - And many more tweaks to the interface. __Jan Rune Holmevik, Dr. Art.____________________________________________ University of Bergen Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From compass@nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca Fri Jan 9 13:01:34 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 09 Jan 2004 13:01:34 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37595BAA for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:01:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90E055A4B for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:01:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16524-01-3 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:01:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca (nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca [129.128.113.203]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A92D34A7 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:00:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i09J0It9024468 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:00:18 -0700 Received: (from compass@localhost) by nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i09J0IQu008128 for encore@utdallas.edu; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:00:18 -0700 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 12:00:18 -0700 From: Wesley Cooper To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] congrats Message-ID: <20040109190017.GA37524@nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-archive-position: 1015 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: compass@nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca Precedence: bulk Reply-to: compass@nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Heartfelt congratulations, Dr Jan. -- Wesley Cooper, Prof, Dept of Philosophy, Univ of Alberta Edmonton, Alberta T6G 2E5 CANADA http://www.arts.uaberta.ca:3000 From ronan@nwe.ufl.edu Fri Jan 9 13:51:16 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 09 Jan 2004 13:51:16 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536B35BAA for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:51:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230B94CF8 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:51:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19726-01-35 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:51:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from lakemtao02.cox.net (lakemtao02.cox.net [68.1.17.243]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E819834F7 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:51:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from truck ([24.170.200.138]) by lakemtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with SMTP id <20040109195109.CFKM2297.lakemtao02.cox.net@truck> for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 14:51:09 -0500 Message-ID: <001101c3d6e9$ed6689b0$8ac8aa18@truck> From: "ronan" To: "'encore'" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20040109083520.023fa2a8@accdvm.accd.edu> Subject: [encore] Re: Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik! Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 14:51:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C3D6C0.045E7530" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-archive-position: 1016 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: ronan@nwe.ufl.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: ronan@nwe.ufl.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C3D6C0.045E7530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All Hail Doctor Holmevik. Congratulations, Jan! ronan ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C3D6C0.045E7530 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C3D6C0.045E7530-- From compass@nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca Fri Jan 9 18:55:31 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 09 Jan 2004 18:55:31 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947875BAA for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:55:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DEFAB15 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:55:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09055-01-82 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:55:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca (nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca [129.128.113.203]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767D1349B for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:55:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0A0tTt9029418 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:55:29 -0700 Received: (from compass@localhost) by nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0A0tTZ8032612 for encore@utdallas.edu; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:55:29 -0700 Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:55:29 -0700 From: Wesley Cooper To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] small prob Message-ID: <20040110005529.GA23922@nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-archive-position: 1017 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: compass@nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca Precedence: bulk Reply-to: compass@nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Everyone, Sorry to bother you, but I'm setting up 4.0 at the beginning of Winter Term here, and I've run up against a difficulty I need help with. Rooms aren't showing contents (object icons, directional arrows, player icons). When I eval here:tell-contents() I get the following error message. #3:tell_contents (this == #62), line 1: Incorrect number of arguments ... called from #-1:Input to EVAL, line 3 ... called from built-in function eval() ... called from #58:eval_cmd_string (this == #2), line 19 ... called from #58:eval*-d (this == #2), line 13 (End of traceback) Line 1 looks okay to me. It's this: {contents, ctype} = args; Any help would be desperately appreciated. Thanks, Wes -- Wesley Cooper, Prof, Dept of Philosophy, Univ of Alberta Edmonton, Alberta T6G 2E5 CANADA http://www.arts.uaberta.ca:3000 From egoff@mindspring.com Sat Jan 10 13:33:11 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:33:11 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5AA5BAA for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:33:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AF34939 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:33:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12535-01-69 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:33:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.60]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23D9E349B for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 13:33:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from [192.168.167.45] (helo=wamui07.slb.atl.earthlink.net) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1AfOr6-0003gG-00 for encore@utdallas.edu; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:33:08 -0500 Message-ID: <24912013.1073763188760.JavaMail.root@wamui07.slb.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:33:08 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: egoff@mindspring.com To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Earthlink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-archive-position: 1018 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: egoff@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: egoff@mindspring.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik!
Congratulations Dr. Holmevik!
CHEERS!


-----Original Message-----
From: Cynthia Haynes=
Sent: Jan 9, 2004 9:16 AM
To: encore
Subject: [encore] Congratulations to Dr. Jan Rune Holmev= ik!

It is with great pleasu= re that I announce the successful defense of Jan Rune Holmevik's dissertati= on today, and the conferring of his doctor art degree from the University o= f Bergen, Norway. Jan delivered a trial lecture on Jan 8th in Bergen on "Th= e Use and Significance of MOOs for Education in the Humanities." And today,= Jan 9th, he gave a presentation on his dissertation, titled: TraceBack:= On MOOs, Open Source, and the Humanities. The members of his committee= were Professor Dag Elgesem (Univ of Bergen), Professor =D8yvind Thomassen = (Univ of Trondheim, Norway), and Professor Jay David Bolter (Georgia Tech U= niv).

Congratulations Dr. Holmevik!

All the best,

Cyn= thia

__Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and Writing_____________= ______
University of Texas at Dallas       = ;            cy= nthiah@utdallas.edu
School of Arts & Humanities    &= nbsp;    http://www.utdallas.edu/~cynthiah   =        
PO Box 830688-JO 31  &nb= sp;            =     http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000
Richardson, TX 7= 5083-0688            = ; (O)972-883-6340 (F)972-883-2989






From compass@nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca Sun Jan 11 15:06:24 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:06:24 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCE75BAA for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:06:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48FD255E7 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:06:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21156-01-8 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:06:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca (nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca [129.128.113.203]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553D83457 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 15:06:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0BL6Mt9029290 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 14:06:22 -0700 Received: (from compass@localhost) by nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0BL6MLe049870 for encore@utdallas.edu; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 14:06:22 -0700 Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 14:06:21 -0700 From: Wesley Cooper To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] progress report Message-ID: <20040111210621.GA24852@nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-archive-position: 1019 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: compass@nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca Precedence: bulk Reply-to: compass@nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi All, I'm sure you don't need a progress report, but I'm still in need of help. Thanks to Daniel setting me straight, I see there's nothing wrong with :tell_contents, and when going into the MOO through telnet you can see objects and exits just fine. I followed up Jan's suggestion by renaming my old 'encore' directory and installing a completely fresh 4.0, and carefully chmoding directories to 755 and files to a+r. Also I checked the base URL, which hasn't changed from pre-4.0 and it seems all right. The results were the same. Everything looks great (the round icons at the top show nicely, etc.), except that exits, objects, and players aren't shown. Any thoughts about how to proceed would be welcome. Thanks, Wes -- Wesley Cooper, Prof, Dept of Philosophy, Univ of Alberta Edmonton, Alberta T6G 2E5 CANADA http://www.arts.uaberta.ca:3000 From jung@uib.no Sun Jan 11 19:49:21 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 11 Jan 2004 19:49:21 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1380F5BAA for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 19:49:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8457565B for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 19:49:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27721-01-84 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 19:49:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from rolf.uib.no (rolf.uib.no [129.177.30.19]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3FA73457 for ; Sun, 11 Jan 2004 19:49:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from alfred.uib.no (smtp.uib.no) [129.177.30.120] by rolf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AfrCZ-00057U-Lh; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 02:49:11 +0100 Received: from tunnel-45-12.vpn.uib.no (Daniel2667.uib.no) [129.177.45.12] by smtp.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AfrCZ-0000t0-00; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 02:49:11 +0100 Message-Id: <5.2.0.8.2.20040112021703.01f69e90@alf.uib.no> X-Sender: fafdj@alf.uib.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.8 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 02:48:59 +0100 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Daniel Jung Subject: [encore] Re: progress report In-Reply-To: <20040111210621.GA24852@nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-checked-clean: by exiscan on rolf X-Scanner: a34022fc90ff61334fbf2a46f581241e http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-Bogosity: 0 X-UiB-SpamFlag: YES UIB: 9.3 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; * 3.0 -- BODY: HTML has unbalanced "html" tags * 1.0 -- BODY: Message is 10% to 20% HTML * 1.6 -- BODY: HTML mail with non-white background * 0.1 -- BODY: HTML included in message * 3.6 -- BODY: HTML has unbalanced "body" tags X-archive-position: 1020 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jung@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jung@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi At 22:06 11.01.2004, you wrote: >Everything looks >great (the round icons at the top show nicely, etc.), except that >exits, objects, and players aren't shown. Any thoughts about how >to proceed would be welcome. I can't understand how this could be the perms (after all, there is no error and no broken IMG and link, right, there is just a big fat white nothing?). I am almost convinced that it must be an HTML source code issue. It really depends on how your #62 looks like, if it's a $webpage or a $room. Is this a problem on ALL the rooms? Having a look at Lingua's #62, you will see the source code stating [meta-stuff] The Courtyard [image and map] and THEN comes the contents table:
You see:
and so on. This is something strict browsers would choke on (or rather: render as written, not as intended); the file is ended by before the contents is shown. This might be ONE answer. Another one might be that there are HTML comments like the following on the page. Consider an audio or visual contents commented in this way: I have found this to not display the moo page completely when there are several such blocks. Changing this to the following syntax did the trick for me: bla bla bla bla bla bla bla When you have checked these two issues (and probably fixed them, if needed) and if you are still struggeling, send me a password to your MOO (I'm intrigued). Cheers (and good luck) - Daniel From compass@nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca Mon Jan 12 13:17:40 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 12 Jan 2004 13:17:41 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54DC5BAA for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 13:17:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49C2285E for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 13:17:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 09740-01-4 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 13:17:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca (nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca [129.128.113.203]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E2534AD for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 13:17:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0CJHZt9009556 for ; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 12:17:35 -0700 Received: (from compass@localhost) by nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i0CJHZTF018754 for encore@utdallas.edu; Mon, 12 Jan 2004 12:17:35 -0700 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 12:17:35 -0700 From: Wesley Cooper To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] prob solved Message-ID: <20040112191735.GA4018@nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-archive-position: 1021 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: compass@nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca Precedence: bulk Reply-to: compass@nifflheim.arts.ualberta.ca List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Everyone, It's me again. I promise to refrain from posting for a long time. The problem was that I was using HTML code in children of the generic web page, but I was leaving out the initial "" stuff. Earlier versions were tolerant of this, but 4.0 barfed. I've decided to start with a fresh 4.0 layer anyway. Since there is little building on AMVU, the porting isn't too hard. Thanks again to Daniel Jung. I've created an honorary AMVU character for him. :) Wes -- Wesley Cooper, Prof, Dept of Philosophy, Univ of Alberta Edmonton, Alberta T6G 2E5 CANADA http://www.arts.uaberta.ca:3000 From milokp@fingerferrit.dyndns.org Tue Jan 13 00:43:20 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:43:20 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F98E5BAA for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:43:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F692540D for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:43:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13651-01-100 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:43:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from fingerferrit.dyndns.org (brhspc75.bridgman.k12.mi.us [198.109.252.75]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04AEB34C7 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 00:43:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from fingerferrit.dyndns.org (IDENT:1000@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fingerferrit.dyndns.org (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id i0D6afKa019794 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 01:36:41 -0500 Received: from localhost (milokp@localhost) by fingerferrit.dyndns.org (8.12.4/8.12.4/Submit) with ESMTP id i0D6afi6019791 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 01:36:41 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 01:36:41 -0500 (EST) From: MPs To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] question about 4.0 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 1022 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: milokp@fingerferrit.dyndns.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: milokp@fingerferrit.dyndns.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hello, First, I would like to say I am new to enCore and this mailing list. I have been playing around with running my own Lambda based MOO off of the standard/small database. I got that working no problems. But I wanted more functionality, and the server went for months running with no changes. Then, just out of the blue, I stumble across a link to enCore. I say to my self, this might be what I am looking for. I downloaded enCore-latest [at the time, 3. whatever came before 4.0] and the linked-to moo server source. Compiled, installed, and connected from Internet Explorer just fine, but not with Mozilla. 4.0 came out, and is reported to work with Moz, so I grab that, and here is where I am at: Slackware 9 Linux Kernel 2.4.23 Mozilla 1.6 pre-built on 2003 12 10 libjavaplugin 1.4.2 Server is running on IP 10.0.0.125 Client is running on IP 10.0.0.125 I logged in and @configured to my local network [10.0.0. ] and the enCore Xpress 4.0 login page comes up just fine, when I log in I get the Xpress client page [more then before, thank you], but the Java applet fails with this error [in the Java Console] Java(TM) Plug-in: Version 1.4.2 Using JRE version 1.4.2 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM ... load: class MOOtcan.class not found. java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: MOOtcan.class at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) ... And it repeats the "at sun..." line for a good many classes. Unfortunately I do not have any windows computers to test it on at the moment, but I will try it when I get back to work tomorrow while I am "Lab-sitting" the computer lab and have windows to play with. My assumption is that I need to reinstall my Java, as I am not sure where exactly this VM came from or if it was an official build. Does anyone have and suggestions or ideas? Thank you for creating enCore/Xpress, even if I have to build a second computer to host it at home and boot into windows to use it, I like the product. Miles Pschigoda Computer Technician Bridgman Public Schools Bridgman Michigan USA From milokp@fingerferrit.dyndns.org Tue Jan 13 14:37:47 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:37:47 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8C55BF8 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:37:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AEB05157 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:37:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24784-01-99 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:37:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from fingerferrit.dyndns.org (brhspc75.bridgman.k12.mi.us [198.109.252.75]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35FD349E for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:37:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from fingerferrit.dyndns.org (IDENT:1000@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fingerferrit.dyndns.org (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id i0DKV6Ka022536 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:31:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (milokp@localhost) by fingerferrit.dyndns.org (8.12.4/8.12.4/Submit) with ESMTP id i0DKV6W2022533 for ; Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:31:06 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 15:31:06 -0500 (EST) From: MPs To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: question about 4.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 1023 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: milokp@fingerferrit.dyndns.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: milokp@fingerferrit.dyndns.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore It has got to be my home computers Java client. When I installed it on my poor, neglected slackware 8 [circa 2002] server at work, with enCore/Xpress 4.0 even my Mozilla 1.0 [circa 2002] browser [Java version 1.4.2] ran just peachy. On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, MPs wrote: > Hello, > > First, I would like to say I am new to enCore and this mailing list. > > I have been playing around with running my own Lambda based MOO off of the > standard/small database. I got that working no problems. But I wanted more > functionality, and the server went for months running with no changes. > > Then, just out of the blue, I stumble across a link to enCore. I say to my > self, this might be what I am looking for. I downloaded enCore-latest [at > the time, 3. whatever came before 4.0] and the linked-to moo server > source. Compiled, installed, and connected from Internet Explorer just > fine, but not with Mozilla. > > 4.0 came out, and is reported to work with Moz, so I grab that, and here > is where I am at: > > Slackware 9 > Linux Kernel 2.4.23 > Mozilla 1.6 pre-built on 2003 12 10 > libjavaplugin 1.4.2 > Server is running on IP 10.0.0.125 > Client is running on IP 10.0.0.125 > > I logged in and @configured to my local network [10.0.0. ] and the enCore > Xpress 4.0 login page comes up just fine, when I log in I get the Xpress > client page [more then before, thank you], but the Java applet fails with > this error [in the Java Console] > > Java(TM) Plug-in: Version 1.4.2 > Using JRE version 1.4.2 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM > ... > load: class MOOtcan.class not found. > java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: MOOtcan.class > at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) > ... > > And it repeats the "at sun..." line for a good many classes. Unfortunately > I do not have any windows computers to test it on at the moment, but I > will try it when I get back to work tomorrow while I am "Lab-sitting" the > computer lab and have windows to play with. > > My assumption is that I need to reinstall my Java, as I am not sure where > exactly this VM came from or if it was an official build. > > Does anyone have and suggestions or ideas? > > Thank you for creating enCore/Xpress, even if I have to build a second > computer to host it at home and boot into windows to use it, I like the > product. > > Miles Pschigoda > Computer Technician > Bridgman Public Schools > Bridgman Michigan USA > > From Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Fri Jan 16 08:07:48 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:07:48 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469EE5BAA for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:07:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15465B003 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:07:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03583-01-13 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:07:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailhub4.dartmouth.edu (mailhub4.Dartmouth.EDU [129.170.17.94]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D81F34C4 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:07:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from [129.170.88.111] (moneil.dartmouth.edu [129.170.88.111]) by mailhub4.dartmouth.edu (8.12.10+DND/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0GE7hCW002835 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 09:07:43 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5BE97694-482D-11D8-A052-000A9579F9D2@Dartmouth.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: encore List From: "Mark A. O'Neil" Subject: [encore] Moving to 4.0 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 09:07:46 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) X-MailScanner: No virus detected by mailhub4.Dartmouth.EDU X-archive-position: 1024 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Okay I am getting ready to bite the bullet and upgrade to 4.0 (I have been putting off upgrades for far too long and a few days free!) Question is: which is the best practice for upgrading a modified core? Patches or starting fresh and migrating everything.... If it is the latter what would the best procedure be? In either case, because there are problems with the ftp server at utDallas would someone be willing to send me the patches (later that 2.0) and the full 4.0 download? Feel free to contact me off list. An alternate FTP would be nice.... Any pointers on merging databases would be appreciated. peace, -m From macrorie.1@nd.edu Fri Jan 16 08:12:14 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:12:15 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31FE5BAA for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:12:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E9DB014 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:12:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03312-01-63 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:12:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from pickering.cc.nd.edu (pickering.cc.nd.edu [129.74.250.225]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B1734AD for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 08:12:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from [129.74.183.150] (kermit.flanner.nd.edu [129.74.183.150]) by pickering.cc.nd.edu (Switch-3.1.3/Switch-3.1.0) with ESMTP id i0GEC98h017857 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 09:12:09 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: rmacrori@pop.nd.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <5BE97694-482D-11D8-A052-000A9579F9D2@Dartmouth.EDU> References: <5BE97694-482D-11D8-A052-000A9579F9D2@Dartmouth.EDU> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 09:12:08 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Robin MacRorie Subject: [encore] Re: Moving to 4.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ND-MTA-Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 09:12:11 -0500 (EST) X-ND-Virus-Scan: engine v4.2.40; dat v4314 X-archive-position: 1025 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: macrorie.1@nd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: macrorie.1@nd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore >Okay I am getting ready to bite the bullet and upgrade to 4.0 (I >have been putting off upgrades for far too long and a few days free!) Please post any and all advice to Mark on the list, please! :) Several folks in encore-land have finally gotten their tech support to approve this much needed upgrade. Thanks! Robin -- ************************************* Robin MacRorie Instructional Technology Designer (574) 631-7110 536 Flanner macrorie.1@nd.edu http://www.nd.edu/~rmacrori/fyc110 University Writing Program 534 Flanner Hall Notre Dame, IN 46556 From cynthiah@utdallas.edu Fri Jan 16 12:05:34 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:05:34 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.5]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B8B5BAA for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:05:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (c66.169.106.136.ts46v-02.ftwrth.tx.charter.com [66.169.106.136]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62A0388D13 for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:05:33 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:05:37 -0600 Subject: [encore] Downloading 4.0 From: Cynthia Haynes To: encore Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1026 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: cynthiah@utdallas.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cynthiah@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore There may have been problems with ftp downloading of 4.0 and other files from the enCore website, but it appears to be working fine now. If, however, anyone experiences a problem downloading, please email us right away so we can look into it asap. Best, Cynthia __Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and Writing___________________ University of Texas at Dallas cynthiah@utdallas.edu School of Arts & Humanities http://www.utdallas.edu/~cynthiah PO Box 830688-JO 31 http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000 Richardson, TX 75083-0688 (O)972-883-6340 (F)972-883-2989 From Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Fri Jan 16 12:34:54 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:34:54 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AABE5BAA for ; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:34:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2256149D2; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:34:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20238-01-98; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:34:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailhub4.dartmouth.edu (mailhub4.Dartmouth.EDU [129.170.17.94]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F90349E; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 12:34:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from [129.170.90.15] (moneil.Kiewit.dartmouth.edu [129.170.90.15]) by mailhub4.dartmouth.edu (8.12.10+DND/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0GIYpCW017970; Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:34:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: encore From: "Mark A. O'Neil" Subject: [encore] Re: Downloading 4.0 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:34:52 -0500 To: cynthiah@utdallas.edu X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) X-MailScanner: No virus detected by mailhub4.Dartmouth.EDU X-archive-position: 1027 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Yes, indeed it is fine now. Thank you! -m On Jan 16, 2004, at 1:05 PM, Cynthia Haynes wrote: > There may have been problems with ftp downloading of 4.0 and other > files > from the enCore website, but it appears to be working fine now. If, > however, > anyone experiences a problem downloading, please email us right away > so we > can look into it asap. > > Best, > > Cynthia > > __Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and Writing___________________ > University of Texas at Dallas cynthiah@utdallas.edu > School of Arts & Humanities http://www.utdallas.edu/~cynthiah > PO Box 830688-JO 31 http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000 > Richardson, TX 75083-0688 (O)972-883-6340 (F)972-883-2989 > > > > > > > > From KEustace@csu.edu.au Sat Jan 17 01:16:33 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 17 Jan 2004 01:16:33 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D00C5BBC for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 01:16:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A9D486D for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 01:16:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 15345-01-30 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 01:16:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from csunw.riv.csu.edu.au (csunw.riv.csu.edu.au [137.166.76.1]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC0239FD for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 01:15:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from XCWW01.CSUMain.csu.edu.au (xcww01.riv.csu.edu.au [137.166.216.22]) by csunw.riv.csu.edu.au (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0H7DcCP007994; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 18:13:39 +1100 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C3DCC9.6D6D55C8" Subject: [encore] Re: Moving to 4.0 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 18:13:37 +1100 Message-ID: <8C2D9A2B9988B342BD8BAABEF0C83DB605BE04@xcww01.riv.csu.edu.au> X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: RE: [encore] Moving to 4.0 Thread-Index: AcPcyW1aHT6ABNl/QhamBRLr/I2eTA== From: "Eustace, Ken" To: , "encore List" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.21 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-archive-position: 1028 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: KEustace@csu.edu.au Precedence: bulk Reply-to: KEustace@csu.edu.au List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3DCC9.6D6D55C8 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_002_01C3DCC9.6D6D55C8" ------_=_NextPart_002_01C3DCC9.6D6D55C8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mark and others, =20 One way to do MOO patching =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D =20 This may not be "best practice" but it works well for patching our encore MOOs. I keep this info handy for the next patch job. Being a busy academic IT research group downunder, we have to do all our own IT support, so notes like this are useful to pass on to others. =20 We announce a "stall" on building and programming on the MOO while the patching is done. That way, MOO meetings continue as usual and disruption is minimal. We then copy and mirror the current MOO db onto a separate development host where the patching is done. Handy to have mirror as backup. =20 (the main MOO is the production site on ispg.csu.edu.au and the MOO database that is patched runs on the development site at infstud.riv.csu.edu.au) =20 Both of our host machines run on FreeBSD UNIX and my desktop computer I used for patching is an IBM Pentium 4 running Windows XP. The tools I use for patching are: =20 * Microsoft WordPad (not notepad or MS Word) to open all the patch files and=20 * the latest version of Pueblo UE 2.6b. - see=20 http://pueblo.sourceforge.net/=20 =20 The big screen and enhanced client features of Pueblo UE 2.6b are useful to check that each verb and property has been copied correctly, although MOOTcan and others are fine. =20 (NOTE: The UE stands for Ultra Enterprises - the company who has taken over development of Pueblo after Chaco Communications dropped development and gave away the source code. So now Pueblo is an open source MOO client). =20 After setting up the mirror sites and reading the notes by Jan and Cynthia, then download the patch files to the desktop PC from=20 http://lingua.utdallas.edu/encore/download.html is done. Patching is then simply done by: =20 1. Open the patch file in Word Pad and COPY from the beginning, a chunk of text at a time, ending the "chunk" with line a period "." character to signify the end of a verb or a blank line to signify the end of a section. =20 2. Connect to the MOO via Pueblo and PASTE the chunk of text into the Pueblo text window where all text and commands are entered. =20 3. Compile each verb or property by simply hitting the "enter" key. =20 4. Reading the text in the window to see that all has been programmed OK the first couple of times is good so that you get familiar with the "action" of compiling a patch file into the db. =20 5. Toggle back to the patch file and repeat until the end of the file =20 6. Open next patch file if you have more to do and repeat from step 1. =20 7. Copy any files needed to the encore directory (eg new MOOtcan, images etc) =20 8. Test the MOO, shut it down and also the main MOO, copy the db file over to the main production site. =20 9. Restart your newly patched MOO =20 I have successfully fixed K9MOO from 2.0.5 and done 15 patches up to version 4.0 on infstud, ready for transfer to the main site on ispg. That will teach me to be a lazy patcher! It took me longer to "bite the bullet" as Mark suggests. The 15 patch file sizes reflect the versioning, where the biggest patches (about half a megabyte each in size) were going from version 2.1.1 to version 3.0 and finally going from 3.3.4 to version 4.0. =20 Some of the extra files (images etc) for the 3.2 and 4.0 patches plus a later version of MOOtcan have to be copied to the encore directory where the MOO is configured, in order to complete both of those patch installations. =20 The 15 patches files are about 2 megabytes in total length from took about 2 hours on K9MOO... boring and repetitive, but done and the results can be seen at http://infstud.riv.csu.edu.au:9000 =20 =20 I hope those notes based on my experiences are useful. It works for me. =20 Regards, Ken Eustace Lecturer (Information Systems) Study Group Program Manager (IT) School of Information Studies Charles Sturt University Wagga Wagga NSW 2678 Ph: +61 2 6933 2832 Fax: +61 2 6933 2733=20 Mobile: 0413 363 229 Email: keustace@csu.edu,.au Web: farrer.csu.edu.au/~keustace =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] On Behalf Of Mark A. O'Neil Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2004 1:08 AM To: encore List Subject: [encore] Moving to 4.0 =20 Okay I am getting ready to bite the bullet and upgrade to 4.0 (I have=20 been putting off upgrades for far too long and a few days free!) =20 Question is: which is the best practice for upgrading a modified core? =20 Patches or starting fresh and migrating everything.... =20 If it is the latter what would the best procedure be? =20 In either case, because there are problems with the ftp server at=20 utDallas would someone be willing to send me the patches (later that=20 2.0) and the full 4.0 download? Feel free to contact me off list. An=20 alternate FTP would be nice.... =20 Any pointers on merging databases would be appreciated. =20 peace, -m =20 ------_=_NextPart_002_01C3DCC9.6D6D55C8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Mark and others,

 

One way to do MOO patching

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D

 

This may not be "best practice" but it works well for patching our encore MOOs. I keep this info handy for the next patch job. = Being a busy academic IT research group downunder, we have to do all our own = IT support, so notes like this are useful to pass on to = others.

 

We announce a "stall" on building = and programming on the MOO while the patching is done. That way, MOO meetings continue = as usual and disruption is minimal. We then copy and mirror the current MOO db = onto a separate development host where the patching is done. Handy to have = mirror as backup.

 

(the main MOO is the production site on = ispg.csu.edu.au and the MOO database that is patched runs on the development site at = infstud.riv.csu.edu.au)

 

Both of our host machines run on FreeBSD UNIX and my desktop = computer I used for patching is an IBM Pentium 4 running Windows XP. The tools I = use for patching are:

 

·         Microsoft WordPad (not notepad or MS Word) = to open all the patch files and

·         the latest version of Pueblo UE 2.6b. = – see http://pueblo.sourceforge.net/

 

The big screen and enhanced client features of Pueblo UE 2.6b = are useful to check that each verb and property has been copied correctly, = although MOOTcan and others are fine.

 

(NOTE: The UE stands for Ultra Enterprises – the company = who has taken over development of Pueblo after Chaco = Communications dropped development and gave away the source code. So now Pueblo is an = open source MOO client).

 

After setting up the mirror sites and reading the notes by Jan = and Cynthia, then download the patch files to the desktop PC from http://lingua.ut= dallas.edu/encore/download.html is done. Patching is then simply done by:

 

1. Open the patch file in Word Pad and COPY from the beginning, = a chunk of text at a time, ending the “chunk” with line a period = “.” character to signify the end of a verb or a blank line to signify the = end of a section.

 

2. Connect to the MOO via Pueblo and PASTE the = chunk of text into the Pueblo text window where all text and commands are = entered.

 

3. Compile each verb or property by simply hitting the = “enter” key.

 

4. Reading the text in the window to see that all has been = programmed OK the first couple of times is good so that you get familiar with the = “action” of compiling a patch file into the db.

 

5. Toggle back to the patch file and repeat until the end of the = file

 

6. Open next patch file if you have more to do and repeat from = step 1.

 

7. Copy any files needed to the encore directory (eg new = MOOtcan, images etc)

 

8. Test the MOO, shut it down and also the main MOO, copy the db = file over to the main production site.

 

9. Restart your newly patched MOO

 

I have successfully fixed K9MOO from 2.0.5 and done 15 patches = up to version 4.0 on infstud, ready for transfer to the main site on ispg. = That will teach me to be a lazy patcher! It took me longer to “bite the = bullet” as Mark suggests.

The 15 patch file sizes reflect the versioning, where the = biggest patches (about half a megabyte each in size) were going from version 2.1.1 to = version 3.0 and finally going from 3.3.4 to version 4.0.

 

Some of the extra files (images etc) for the 3.2 and 4.0 patches = plus a later version of MOOtcan have to be copied to the encore directory where = the MOO is configured, in order to complete both of those patch = installations.

 

The 15 patches files are about 2 megabytes in total length from = took about 2 hours on K9MOO… boring and repetitive, but done and the = results can be seen at http://infstud.riv.csu.edu.a= u:9000

 

I hope those notes based on my experiences are useful. It works = for me.

 

Regards,
Ken = Eustace

Lecturer (Information = Systems)

Study Group Program Manager = (IT)

School of Information= Studies
Charles = Sturt = University

Wagga Wagga NSW = 2678

Ph:  +61 2 6933 = 2832   Fax: +61 2 6933 2733

Mobile: 0413 363 229
Email: keustace@csu.edu,.au
Web: farrer.csu.edu.au/~keustace

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] On = Behalf Of Mark A. O'Neil
Sent: Saturday, 17 January = 2004 1:08 AM
To: encore List
Subject: [encore] Moving to 4.0

 

Okay I am getting ready to bite the bullet and upgrade to 4.0 (I = have

been putting off upgrades for far too long and a few days = free!)

 

Question is: which is the best practice for upgrading a modified = core?

 

Patches or starting fresh and migrating = everything....

 

If it is the latter what would the best procedure = be?

 

In either case, because there are problems with the ftp server = at

utDallas would someone be willing to send me the patches (later = that

2.0) and the full 4.0 download? Feel free to contact me off = list. An

alternate FTP would be nice....

 

Any pointers on merging databases would be = appreciated.

 

peace,

-m

 

=00 ------_=_NextPart_002_01C3DCC9.6D6D55C8-- ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3DCC9.6D6D55C8 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Eustace, Ken.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: Eustace, Ken.vcf Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Eustace, Ken.vcf" QkVHSU46VkNBUkQNClZFUlNJT046Mi4xDQpOOkV1c3RhY2U7S2VuDQpGTjpFdXN0YWNlLCBLZW4N Ck9SRzpDaGFybGVzIFN0dXJ0IFVuaXZlcnNpdHk7SW5mb3JtYXRpb24gU3R1ZGllcywgU2Nob29s DQpUSVRMRTpMZWN0dXJlcg0KVEVMO1dPUks7Vk9JQ0U6MzI4MzINCkFEUjtXT1JLOjs7TG9ja2Vk IEJhZyA1ODg7V2FnZ2EgV2FnZ2E7TlNXOzI2Nzg7QXVzdHJhbGlhDQpMQUJFTDtXT1JLO0VOQ09E SU5HPVFVT1RFRC1QUklOVEFCTEU6TG9ja2VkIEJhZyA1ODg9MEQ9MEFXYWdnYSBXYWdnYSwgTlNX IDI2Nzg9MEQ9MEFBdXN0cmFsaWENCkVNQUlMO1BSRUY7SU5URVJORVQ6S0V1c3RhY2VAY3N1LmVk dS5hdQ0KUkVWOjIwMDMwNTE1VDA3NTgwNloNCkVORDpWQ0FSRA0K ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3DCC9.6D6D55C8-- From Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Sat Jan 17 15:00:47 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 17 Jan 2004 15:00:47 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46B6E5BAA for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 15:00:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D30527EB for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 15:00:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28536-01-85 for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 15:00:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from out011.verizon.net (out011pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.135]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF1239FD for ; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 15:00:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([64.222.178.199]) by out011.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20040117205927.JWTJ17235.out011.verizon.net@[10.0.1.2]>; Sat, 17 Jan 2004 14:59:27 -0600 In-Reply-To: <8C2D9A2B9988B342BD8BAABEF0C83DB605BE04@xcww01.riv.csu.edu.au> References: <8C2D9A2B9988B342BD8BAABEF0C83DB605BE04@xcww01.riv.csu.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: <07FEAABA-4930-11D8-87C8-000A9579F9D2@Dartmouth.EDU> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "encore List" From: Mark A.O'Neil Subject: [encore] Re: Moving to 4.0 Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 15:59:24 -0500 To: KEustace@csu.edu.au X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out011.verizon.net from [64.222.178.199] at Sat, 17 Jan 2004 14:59:27 -0600 X-archive-position: 1029 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Ken, Thank you for your excellent explanation. This is pretty much what I did last night to move from 2.11 to 4.0. The=20= whole process took about 3.5 hours including reading, uploading, and=20 testing. I have a copy of the old DB from which I will eventually start=20= up on an odd port number and add back some objects/verbs which are not=20= being used again until next Fall. Other than that the upgrade solved most all of the issues with Browsers=20= and Applets on OS X. Thanks to everyone who got 4.0 out the door! peace, -m On Jan 17, 2004, at 2:13 AM, Eustace, Ken wrote: > Hi Mark and others, > > =A0 > > One way to do MOO patching > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D > > =A0 > > This may not be "best practice" but it works well for patching our=20 > encore MOOs. I keep this info handy for the next patch job. Being a=20 > busy academic IT research group downunder, we have to do all our own=20= > IT support, so notes like this are useful to pass on to others. > > =A0 > > We announce a "stall" on building and programming on the MOO while the=20= > patching is done. That way, MOO meetings continue as usual and=20 > disruption is minimal. We then copy and mirror the current MOO db onto=20= > a separate development host where the patching is done. Handy to have=20= > mirror as backup. > > =A0 > > (the main MOO is the production site on ispg.csu.edu.au and the MOO=20 > database that is patched runs on the development site at=20 > infstud.riv.csu.edu.au) > > =A0 > > Both of our host machines run on FreeBSD UNIX and my desktop computer=20= > I used for patching is an IBM Pentium 4 running Windows XP. The tools=20= > I use for patching are: > > =A0 > > =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Microsoft WordPad (not notepad or MS Word) = to open all the=20 > patch files and > > =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 the latest version of Pueblo UE 2.6b. =96=20= > seehttp://pueblo.sourceforge.net/ > > =A0 > > The big screen and enhanced client features of Pueblo UE 2.6b are=20 > useful to check that each verb and property has been copied correctly,=20= > although MOOTcan and others are fine. > > =A0 > > (NOTE: The UE stands for Ultra Enterprises =96 the company who has = taken=20 > over development ofPueblo after Chaco Communications dropped=20 > development and gave away the source code. So now Pueblo is an open=20 > source MOO client). > > =A0 > > After setting up the mirror sites and reading the notes by Jan and=20 > Cynthia, then download the patch files to the desktop PC=20 > fromhttp://lingua.utdallas.edu/encore/download.htmlis done. Patching=20= > is then simply done by: > > =A0 > > 1. Open the patch file in Word Pad and COPY from the beginning, a=20 > chunk of text at a time, ending the =93chunk=94 with line a period =93.=94= =20 > character to signify the end of a verb or a blank line to signify the=20= > end of a section. > > =A0 > > 2. Connect to the MOO viaPueblo and PASTE the chunk of text into the=20= > Pueblo text window where all text and commands are entered. > > =A0 > > 3. Compile each verb or property by simply hitting the =93enter=94 = key. > > =A0 > > 4. Reading the text in the window to see that all has been programmed=20= > OK the first couple of times is good so that you get familiar with the=20= > =93action=94 of compiling a patch file into the db. > > =A0 > > 5. Toggle back to the patch file and repeat until the end of the file > > =A0 > > 6. Open next patch file if you have more to do and repeat from step 1. > > =A0 > > 7. Copy any files needed to the encore directory (eg new MOOtcan,=20 > images etc) > > =A0 > > 8. Test the MOO, shut it down and also the main MOO, copy the db file=20= > over to the main production site. > > =A0 > > 9. Restart your newly patched MOO > > =A0 > > I have successfully fixed K9MOO from 2.0.5 and done 15 patches up to=20= > version 4.0 on infstud, ready for transfer to the main site on ispg.=20= > That will teach me to be a lazy patcher! It took me longer to =93bite=20= > the bullet=94 as Mark suggests. > > The 15 patch file sizes reflect the versioning, where the biggest=20 > patches (about half a megabyte each in size) were going from version=20= > 2.1.1 to version 3.0 and finally going from 3.3.4 to version 4.0. > > =A0 > > Some of the extra files (images etc) for the 3.2 and 4.0 patches plus=20= > a later version of MOOtcan have to be copied to the encore directory=20= > where the MOO is configured, in order to complete both of those patch=20= > installations. > > =A0 > > The 15 patches files are about 2 megabytes in total length from took=20= > about 2 hours on K9MOO=85 boring and repetitive, but done and the=20 > results can be seen athttp://infstud.riv.csu.edu.au:9000 > > =A0 > > I hope those notes based on my experiences are useful. It works for = me. > > =A0 > > Regards, > Ken Eustace > > Lecturer (Information Systems) > > Study Group Program Manager (IT) > > School ofInformationStudies > Charles Sturt University > > Wagga Wagga NSW 2678 > > Ph:=A0 +61=A02 6933 2832=A0=A0 Fax: +61 2 6933 2733 > > Mobile: 0413 363 229 > Email:keustace@csu.edu,.au > Web:farrer.csu.edu.au/~keustace > > =A0 > > =A0 > > -----Original Message----- > From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu]=20= > On Behalf Of Mark A. O'Neil > Sent:Saturday, 17 January 2004 1:08 AM > To: encore List > Subject: [encore] Moving to 4.0 > > =A0 > > Okay I am getting ready to bite the bullet and upgrade to 4.0 (I have > > been putting off upgrades for far too long and a few days free!) > > =A0 > > Question is: which is the best practice for upgrading a modified core? > > =A0 > > Patches or starting fresh and migrating everything.... > > =A0 > > If it is the latter what would the best procedure be? > > =A0 > > In either case, because there are problems with the ftp server at > > utDallas would someone be willing to send me the patches (later that > > 2.0) and the full 4.0 download? Feel free to contact me off list. An > > alternate FTP would be nice.... > > =A0 > > Any pointers on merging databases would be appreciated. > > =A0 > > peace, > > -m > > =A0 > From kevijeps@telusplanet.net Sun Jan 18 20:34:14 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:34:15 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993445BAA for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:34:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7345A1877 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:34:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01059-01-14 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:34:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net (defout.telus.net [199.185.220.240]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F9639E4 for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:34:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from ishtar ([198.53.189.177]) by priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.6.00.05.02 201-2115-109-103-20031105) with SMTP id <20040119023324.LPGM371.priv-edtnes56.telusplanet.net@ishtar> for ; Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:33:24 -0700 From: "Kevin Jepson" To: "encore List" Subject: [encore] Express Login Screen trouble V4 Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:34:01 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C3DDFA.067836D0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal X-archive-position: 1030 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: kevijeps@telusplanet.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: kevijeps@telusplanet.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C3DDFA.067836D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks I've done the upgrade to V4 and it works great so far. Only problem I've encountered is the Initial Express screen. I get the following error on the screen. Internal Server Error An internal server error was encountered. If this problem persists please notify a MOO administrator. Failed request was: GET //Xpress_Login/welcome_screen HTTP/1.1 Details: Traceback: #126:page_assembled, line 8:Range error ... called from #32:get, line 76 (End of traceback) I can login OK so it seems to only be the welcome screen. Any suggestions welcome. Ciao KJ ======================================================= Kevin Jepson R.E.T. President 4K Consulting Inc. An't nanum hearm deth, doth hwaet ye willath. PHONE: (403) 875-8372 Email: kevijeps@telusplanet.net ======================================================= --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/2004 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C3DDFA.067836D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Folks
I've = done the=20 upgrade to V4 and it works great so far.
Only = problem I've=20 encountered is the Initial Express screen.
I get = the following=20 error on the screen.

Internal Server Error

An internal server error was encountered. If this problem persists = please=20 notify a MOO administrator.


Failed request was: GET //Xpress_Login/welcome_screen HTTP/1.1=20
Details:=20

 
Traceback:
#126:page_assembled, line 8:Range error
... called from #32:get, line 76
(End of traceback)
 
I can login OK = so it seems=20 to only be the welcome screen.
Any suggestions = welcome.
Ciao
KJ 

An't nanum hearm deth, doth hwaet = ye=20 willath.

PHONE: (403) 875-8372 =
Email: kevijeps@telusplanet.net =
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------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C3DDFA.067836D0-- From Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Mon Jan 19 12:03:26 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:03:27 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B69F45BAA for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:03:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 811C823B2 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:03:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26841-01-12 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:03:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from out012.verizon.net (out012pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.137]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC45839FD for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:03:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([64.222.178.199]) by out012.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20040119180234.YGQH1590.out012.verizon.net@[10.0.1.2]> for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:02:34 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: encore List From: Mark A.O'Neil Subject: [encore] Properties Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:02:31 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out012.verizon.net from [64.222.178.199] at Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:02:34 -0600 X-archive-position: 1031 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Which property contains the text for the right hand frame of the startup screen (http://domain:7000)? thanks, -m From jan.holmevik@uib.no Mon Jan 19 12:11:56 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:11:56 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CEA05BAA for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:11:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE9423F9 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:11:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27242-02-11 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:11:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1E439ED for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:11:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from c66.169.106.136.ts46v-02.ftwrth.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.3]) [66.169.106.136] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AidrT-0005gg-9u; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 19:10:55 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:10:53 -0600 Subject: [encore] Re: Properties From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: 93a39d5d8cf7c24b7274e53491eeaa23 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 3.1 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; 3.1 -- Contains an ASCII-formatted form X-archive-position: 1032 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore On 1/19/04 12:02 PM, "Mark A.O'Neil" wrote: > Which property contains the text for the right hand frame of the > startup screen (http://domain:7000)? > > thanks, > -m That would be $xpress_login.welcome_screen __Jan Rune Holmevik, Dr Art______________________________________________ University of Bergen Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Mon Jan 19 12:42:21 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:42:21 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43A955BAA for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:42:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15352F03 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:42:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29142-01-6 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:42:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from out011.verizon.net (out011pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.135]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C7839E4 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:42:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([64.222.178.199]) by out011.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20040119184131.YKPQ17235.out011.verizon.net@[10.0.1.2]>; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:41:31 -0600 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <17EC1F7E-4AAF-11D8-8542-000A9579F9D2@Dartmouth.EDU> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: enCore list From: Mark A.O'Neil Subject: [encore] Re: Properties Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:41:28 -0500 To: Erin E Karper , jan.holmevik@uib.no X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out011.verizon.net from [64.222.178.199] at Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:41:31 -0600 X-archive-position: 1033 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Jan, Erin, Thanks for the pointers this was the ticket - I need to reacquaint myself with the MOO after a year absence. peace, -m On Jan 19, 2004, at 1:10 PM, Jan Rune Holmevik wrote: > That would be $xpress_login.welcome_screen From jan.holmevik@uib.no Mon Jan 19 13:53:38 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:53:38 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 048635BAA for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:53:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1D4B25EB for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:53:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03325-01-9 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:53:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2523A02 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:53:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from c66.169.106.136.ts46v-02.ftwrth.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.3]) [66.169.106.136] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AifSC-0007gd-15; Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:52:56 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 13:52:54 -0600 Subject: [encore] enCore 4.0.1 Released From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: abe3d9295873f8fd6eaa119fdf1e6e6a http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 3.1 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; 3.1 -- Contains an ASCII-formatted form X-archive-position: 1034 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hot on the heals of version 4.0 we're releasing the first maintenance update today. A complete 4.0.1 package as well as the 4.0.1 patch can be downloaded from http://lingua.utdallas.edu/encore/. The 4.0.1 patch addresses a few bugs that were inadvertently introduced in the main release. It also contains a fix for a security hole in the Xpress MOO mailer that Wade Wesolowsky brought to my attention last night. This security hole exist in all enCore MOOs since version 3. If you are running a version 3.x-based MOO we advice you to apply the following security fix from the 4.0.1 patch: @program $xpress_moo_mailer:permission_to_read "==========================================================="; "Copyright (C) 1999-2004, Jan Rune Holmevik"; "Verb that checks to see if user has permission to see requested"; "folder or mail message. Returns true (1) if user has permission,"; "else returns false (0)"; "Added additional checks to make sure users can't read other players"; "mail. Thanks to Wade Wesolowsky"; "==========================================================="; {user, folder} = args; cm = user.current_message; cm[1..2] = verb == "@rn" ? {{this, @cm[1..2]}} | {}; valid_folders = {user}; for item in (cm) if (item[1] == user) "Folder is the user"; valid_folders = {@valid_folders, item[1]}; elseif ($object_utils:isa(item[1], $mail_recipient) || $object_utils:isa(item[1], $big_mail_recipient)) "Folder is a mailing list, grant access if user is wizard or if folder is readable"; if ($object_utils:has_property(item[1], "readers")) if (user.wizard || item[1].readers == 1) valid_folders = {@valid_folders, item[1]}; endif endif endif endfor if (folder in valid_folders) return 1; else return 0; endif . enCore 4.0.1 Changelog - Upped default quota to 100.000 bytes for new installations - Fixed a css format problem in $encore_web_class:css Introduced in 4.0. - Fixed a layout issue with $webpage:_html. Introduced in 4.0. - Fixed a small problem with $administration_module:batch_make_player that was introduced in 4.0. - Added task_perms to $prog:@code in order to prevent folks from viewing non-readable code. - Added additional permission checks to $xpress_moo_mailer:permission_to_read in order to plug a critical security hole that allowed users to read other player's mail as well as wiz only lists. Thanks to Wade Wesolowsky for bringing these last two issues to my attention. Enjoy, Jan __Jan Rune Holmevik, Dr Art______________________________________________ University of Bergen Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From jan.holmevik@uib.no Wed Jan 21 09:52:54 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:52:55 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88955BC7 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:52:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 898E547C8 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:52:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 29311-01-31 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:52:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A93A39ED for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:52:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from c66.169.106.136.ts46v-02.ftwrth.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.3]) [66.169.106.136] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AjKeV-0001aZ-6j; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 16:52:23 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 09:52:19 -0600 Subject: [encore] Minor update From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="B_3157523543_27835178" X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: b6f950a0d9d1704b8b25e062a9869b3d http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 3.1 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; 3.1 -- Contains an ASCII-formatted form X-archive-position: 1035 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3157523543_27835178 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit During some testing of enCore 4 at UT Dallas yesterday we discovered a small bug that causes IE on the Mac to not size MOOtcan properly. The result is that the applet is loaded in an area so small that it is for all practical purposes invisible. I am not going to release a new patch just for this, so instead I'm sending out the fix here on the list. Please find it attached to this mail. This code will also be included in the next patch. 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list encore); Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:04:33 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AED35BC7 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:04:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 301CA48B4 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:04:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00364-01-15 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:04:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64BF139ED for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:04:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from c66.169.106.136.ts46v-02.ftwrth.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.3]) [66.169.106.136] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AjKqB-0002tv-JS; Wed, 21 Jan 2004 17:04:27 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 10:04:27 -0600 Subject: [encore] Just in case... From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: a0e6dada1e4f7ae2829b9a9a2f04d696 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 3.1 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; 3.1 -- Contains an ASCII-formatted form X-archive-position: 1036 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore The code I sent out in my previous mail is for enCore version 4.x MOOs ONLY. DO NOT use the code in version 3.x systems, since it will break compatibility with older browsers still supported in version 3.x. Jan __Jan Rune Holmevik, Dr Art______________________________________________ University of Bergen Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From milokp@fingerferrit.dyndns.org Mon Jan 26 19:06:33 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:06:34 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5915C5C for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:06:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C887192A for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:06:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25933-01-59 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:06:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from fingerferrit.dyndns.org (brhspc75.bridgman.k12.mi.us [198.109.252.75]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B53F3D24 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:02:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from fingerferrit.dyndns.org (IDENT:1000@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fingerferrit.dyndns.org (8.12.4/8.12.4) with ESMTP id i0QLsYKa013473 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:54:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (milokp@localhost) by fingerferrit.dyndns.org (8.12.4/8.12.4/Submit) with ESMTP id i0QLsYmd013470 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:54:34 -0500 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:54:34 -0500 (EST) From: MPs To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: question about 4.0 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 1037 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: milokp@fingerferrit.dyndns.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: milokp@fingerferrit.dyndns.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Just an update. Yes, it was my java client at home. Also, congratulations Dr. Jan Rune Holmevik. I am really enjoying TraceBack. It is an intresting read. Miles Pschigoda. On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, MPs wrote: > It has got to be my home computers Java client. When I installed it on my > poor, neglected slackware 8 [circa 2002] server at work, with > enCore/Xpress 4.0 even my Mozilla 1.0 [circa 2002] browser [Java version > 1.4.2] ran just peachy. > > > > On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, MPs wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > First, I would like to say I am new to enCore and this mailing list. > > > > I have been playing around with running my own Lambda based MOO off of the > > standard/small database. I got that working no problems. But I wanted more > > functionality, and the server went for months running with no changes. > > > > Then, just out of the blue, I stumble across a link to enCore. I say to my > > self, this might be what I am looking for. I downloaded enCore-latest [at > > the time, 3. whatever came before 4.0] and the linked-to moo server > > source. Compiled, installed, and connected from Internet Explorer just > > fine, but not with Mozilla. > > > > 4.0 came out, and is reported to work with Moz, so I grab that, and here > > is where I am at: > > > > Slackware 9 > > Linux Kernel 2.4.23 > > Mozilla 1.6 pre-built on 2003 12 10 > > libjavaplugin 1.4.2 > > Server is running on IP 10.0.0.125 > > Client is running on IP 10.0.0.125 > > > > I logged in and @configured to my local network [10.0.0. ] and the enCore > > Xpress 4.0 login page comes up just fine, when I log in I get the Xpress > > client page [more then before, thank you], but the Java applet fails with > > this error [in the Java Console] > > > > Java(TM) Plug-in: Version 1.4.2 > > Using JRE version 1.4.2 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM > > ... > > load: class MOOtcan.class not found. > > java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: MOOtcan.class > > at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) > > ... > > > > And it repeats the "at sun..." line for a good many classes. Unfortunately > > I do not have any windows computers to test it on at the moment, but I > > will try it when I get back to work tomorrow while I am "Lab-sitting" the > > computer lab and have windows to play with. > > > > My assumption is that I need to reinstall my Java, as I am not sure where > > exactly this VM came from or if it was an official build. > > > > Does anyone have and suggestions or ideas? > > > > Thank you for creating enCore/Xpress, even if I have to build a second > > computer to host it at home and boot into windows to use it, I like the > > product. > > > > Miles Pschigoda > > Computer Technician > > Bridgman Public Schools > > Bridgman Michigan USA > > > > > > From jeffwhite@uaa.alaska.edu Tue Jan 27 17:07:57 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:07:58 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8845BAA for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:07:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8898E1A83 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:07:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04591-01-13 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:07:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from sentinel.uaa.alaska.edu (webmail.uaa.alaska.edu [137.229.138.128]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C02913490 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:07:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from sentinel.uaa.alaska.edu by sentinel.uaa.alaska.edu via smtpd (for [129.110.10.17]) with ESMTP; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:58:53 -0900 Received: from anc-109.vpdn.alaska.edu ([137.229.247.109]) by sentinel.uaa.alaska.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HS586F00.5NS for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:08:39 -0900 Received: from anc-109.vpdn.alaska.edu ([137.229.247.109]) by anc-109.vpdn.alaska.edu via smtpd (for sentinel.uaa.alaska.edu [137.229.138.128]) with ESMTP; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 00:59:14 -0900 Message-ID: <4016387D.1050004@uaa.alaska.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:07:57 -0900 From: "Jeff White" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: enCore list Subject: [encore] MOO integration with other apps? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 1038 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: afjcw@uaa.alaska.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: afjcw@uaa.alaska.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore I know I've asked something similar to this before on the list; however, I'm wondering if there are any people out there authenticating their MOO off an LDAP server? I am setting up a new MOO w/4.0 enCore, and I want to integrate the MOO login for my students with other items I use--basically a php based CMS (Drupal) and a Flash Communication Server video conf space. I can use a single login that checks off LDAP for the other two; but I'd like to have them login one time to access all class spaces. This is a relatively easy process with php, but I don't know MOO network utils, etc, nearly well enough to write something from scratch for it. There are, it seems, a couple of elements necessary--one which would turn off the automatic password generator when a character is created, and one to shut down the new-password option within the MOO. I previously had built in Cold Fusion, a page to which students logged in, and after authenticating, it pulled their MOO number and password from a DB that I'd entered the info into as I created the characters. After getting that info, I had a frame that opened up with the Login info automatically entered--and the studnets hit "go" to launch the MOO. It worked okay, but seemed a cumbersome process--and one which if they changed their MOO passwords (even though they never needed to actually use them...several did change them) demanded my re-setting the password in the MOO. jeffwhite From Lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Tue Jan 27 21:01:03 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:01:03 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827AB5BC7 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:01:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531501782 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:01:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13290-01-15 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:01:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E7B93490 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:01:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from irvin.accdvm.accd.edu [10.1.11.59] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:21:48 CST Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20040127201735.00aab250@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Sender: Lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 20:23:51 -0600 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Lennie Irvin Subject: [encore] Re: MOO integration with other apps? In-Reply-To: <4016387D.1050004@uaa.alaska.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 1039 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hey Jeff, Interesting question. I know herve (rv) in Hawaii was doing some interesting things with integrating the MOO database with some another database, but I don't know where he is with that. I believe that Old Pueblo MOO created a way to integrate their University database with their MOO (so that students would be automatically registered also in the MOO for particular sections... I think). I'd love to see how you are setting up Drupal as a course platform and then how you would integrate MOO into it. The Flash video space sounds interesting too--do you use the flash video conferencing within the MOO? Are you coming to the 4Cs in San Antonio? Lennie At 01:07 AM 1/27/04 -0900, Jeff White wrote: >I know I've asked something similar to this before on the list; however, >I'm wondering if there are any people out there authenticating their MOO >off an LDAP server? I am setting up a new MOO w/4.0 enCore, and I want to >integrate the MOO login for my students with other items I use--basically >a php based CMS (Drupal) and a Flash Communication Server video conf >space. I can use a single login that checks off LDAP for the other two; >but I'd like to have them login one time to access all class spaces. This >is a relatively easy process with php, but I don't know MOO network utils, >etc, nearly well enough to write something from scratch for it. There are, >it seems, a couple of elements necessary--one which would turn off the >automatic password generator when a character is created, and one to shut >down the new-password option within the MOO. > >I previously had built in Cold Fusion, a page to which students logged in, >and after authenticating, it pulled their MOO number and password from a >DB that I'd entered the info into as I created the characters. After >getting that info, I had a frame that opened up with the Login info >automatically entered--and the studnets hit "go" to launch the MOO. It >worked okay, but seemed a cumbersome process--and one which if they >changed their MOO passwords (even though they never needed to actually use >them...several did change them) demanded my re-setting the password in the MOO. > >jeffwhite > > L. Lennie Irvin Department of English, San Antonio College San Antonio, TX http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/ AlaMOO: http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/AlaMOO/ From shovlin@ohio.edu Wed Jan 28 17:10:15 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:53:13 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3265C05 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:10:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7344169D for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:10:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23108-01-46 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:10:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from oak3a.cats.ohiou.edu (oak3a.cats.ohiou.edu [132.235.8.151]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0F834A4 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 17:10:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from 132.235.44.59 by pm5 (PureMessage); Wed Jan 28 12:27:28 2004 Received: from PAUL1 (dhcp-044-059.cns.ohiou.edu [132.235.44.59]) (authenticated bits=0) by oak3a.cats.ohiou.edu (8.12.8-OU/8.12.8-OU) with ESMTP id i0SHRR3u1602742 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:27:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 12:26:08 -0500 From: Paul Shovlin To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Upgrade to 4? Message-ID: <523983.1075292768@PAUL1> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.0 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-PMX-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report='' X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, PureMessage (score=0, required 5) X-PMX-Information: http://www.cns.ohiou.edu/email/spam-virus.html X-PMX-Version: 4.0.4.77969 (pm5) X-PMX-Start: Wed Jan 28 12:27:28 2004 X-PMX-Stop: Wed Jan 28 12:27:28 2004 X-archive-position: 1040 X-Approved-By: cynthiah@utdallas.edu X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: shovlin@ohio.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: shovlin@ohio.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hey folks, I'm new to this listserv so please forgive the ignorance on my part for my questions. I'm working on a MOO at Ohio University for writing purposes (writing enriched courses, WID meetings, tutoring, etc.) and we are currently using 3.3.2 enCore...I'll be meeting with my boss and the tech team in a few days. Can anyone briefly outline the benefits of an upgrade or point me in the direction of a document that explains the features of 4.0? Thanks for your time.... Paul Shovlin From jhaefner@iwu.edu Thu Jan 29 12:21:36 2004 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:21:37 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3295BAA for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:21:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8163717C8 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:21:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26368-01-83 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:21:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from triton.iwu.edu (triton.iwu.edu [198.178.132.31]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C7034A3 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:21:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postfilter.iwu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2772A4C3C9 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:01:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from triton.iwu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (triton [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12448-07 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:01:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from haefner.iwu.edu (unknown [10.2.46.196]) by triton.iwu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6A134C39D for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:01:08 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20040129105802.01d3f8b8@mail.iwu.edu> X-Sender: jhaefner@mail.iwu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:59:14 -0600 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Joel Haefner Subject: [encore] toasted DB Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at iwu.edu X-archive-position: 1041 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jhaefner@iwu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jhaefner@iwu.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Well, I managed to toast my MOO trying to upgrade to 4.0. I tried to restore my backup, but it's just hanging now .... telnet access works, but not web access. Could someone please remind me how to restore my old DB? Sorry for this question. Dr. Joel Haefner, Writing Coordinator and Lecturer in Computer Science Illinois Wesleyan University, Bloomington, IL, 61704 Office: 309/556-3756 Email: jhaefner@iwu.edu Web: www.iwu.edu/~jhaefner "Everything is deeply intertwingled." -- Ted Nelson, guru of hypertext

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