From jung@uib.no Tue Dec 2 00:43:45 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 02 Dec 2003 00:43:45 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EEF85BC6 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 00:43:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB77A83B for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 00:43:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13135-01-91 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 00:43:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from rolf.uib.no (rolf.uib.no [129.177.30.19]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00EE53497 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 00:43:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from alfred.uib.no (smtp.uib.no) [129.177.30.120] by rolf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AR4G2-0004Bb-OG; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 07:43:38 +0100 Received: from tunnel-45-55.vpn.uib.no (Daniel2667.uib.no) [129.177.45.55] by smtp.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AR4G2-0005SB-00; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 07:43:38 +0100 Message-Id: <5.2.0.8.2.20031202073130.01ab4008@alf.uib.no> X-Sender: fafdj@alf.uib.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.8 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 07:43:40 +0100 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Daniel Jung Subject: [encore] MOO Mailer package Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-checked-clean: by exiscan on rolf X-Scanner: 9e21d3def93d931fd85c172d83d30c99 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 0.0 hits, 9.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; X-archive-position: 970 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jung@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jung@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi all, I have written a MOO Mailer upgrade package which I am submitting to Jan Rune for the next Xpress version. Works like a charm here, but it would be nice if some of you could test it as well and give your two cents (different browsers, different kinds of mail boxes). Some features: * Fixed a security hole which could lead to sending and deleting and subscribing to maillists unwillingly. * Added an outbox where a copy of all outgoing mails is stored. The OutBox can be browsed and handled just like the InBox. * Added a preview pane which lets you navigate and read messages in the same window. Links appear to make the message appear in a new window, quicklink to reply and a print command. Preview is optional (on/off for the user). * Added a search function and a result display which lets you navigate through searches. * Added a recovery function which makes composed messages reappear after a send error. * Added a list of language strings on the object for easy translation or customization. * Added a multiple message delete function. * Added a customizable sound property which overrides the system choice (URL). * Added a user property to define the number of messages per page. * Added an object editor section to edit these properties * Made a new contents table and mail head layout, graphical multilevel quoting style, search string highlighting. * Made all produced HMTL code XHTML compatible: followed style recommendation (lowercase, closed non-empty elements, terminated empty elements, quoted values, no minimized value pairs) * Included an uninstall section Commented code may be downloaded here: http://lingo.uib.no/daniel/code/moo_mailer There are screenshots as well. The code can be pasted right into the command line. Enjoy, and thanks for feedback! - Daniel From jan.holmevik@uib.no Tue Dec 2 00:50:34 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 02 Dec 2003 00:50:34 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1F95BC6 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 00:50:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB0F483F for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 00:50:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 13187-01-83 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 00:50:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E642234A7 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 00:50:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from c68.113.221.149.ts46v-03.dntn.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.3]) [68.113.221.149] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AR4MV-0004Iw-00; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 07:50:20 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 00:50:18 -0600 Subject: [encore] Re: MOO Mailer package From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.8.2.20031202073130.01ab4008@alf.uib.no> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: 677a3294edf333ca4f7007c4732bed7a http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 3.1 hits, 9.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; * 3.1 -- BODY: Contains an ASCII-formatted form X-archive-position: 971 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Excellent job, Daniel! Jan On 12/2/03 12:43 AM, "Daniel Jung" wrote: > Hi all, > > I have written a MOO Mailer upgrade package which I am submitting to Jan > Rune for the next Xpress version. Works like a charm here, but it would be > nice if some of you could test it as well and give your two cents > (different browsers, different kinds of mail boxes). Some features: > > * Fixed a security hole which could lead to sending and deleting and > subscribing to maillists unwillingly. > * Added an outbox where a copy of all outgoing mails is stored. The > OutBox can be browsed and handled just like the InBox. > * Added a preview pane which lets you navigate and read messages in the > same window. Links appear to make the message appear in a new window, > quicklink to reply and a print command. Preview is optional (on/off for the > user). > * Added a search function and a result display which lets you navigate > through searches. > * Added a recovery function which makes composed messages reappear > after a send error. > * Added a list of language strings on the object for easy translation > or customization. > * Added a multiple message delete function. > * Added a customizable sound property which overrides the system choice > (URL). > * Added a user property to define the number of messages per page. > * Added an object editor section to edit these properties > * Made a new contents table and mail head layout, graphical multilevel > quoting style, search string highlighting. > * Made all produced HMTL code XHTML compatible: followed style > recommendation (lowercase, closed non-empty elements, terminated empty > elements, quoted values, no minimized value pairs) > * Included an uninstall section > > > Commented code may be downloaded here: > http://lingo.uib.no/daniel/code/moo_mailer > There are screenshots as well. The code can be pasted right into the > command line. > > > Enjoy, and thanks for feedback! > - Daniel > > > > > __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Tue Dec 2 15:18:00 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 02 Dec 2003 15:18:02 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A93665BE1 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:18:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1571AC90 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:18:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26527-01-26 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:17:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id D39FE34DC for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 15:17:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from GH208-LIRVIN.accdvm.accd.edu [10.11.36.44] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 15:15:02 CST Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20031202142328.020a4208@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 15:17:33 -0600 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Lennie Irvin Subject: [encore] Loss/Restore question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" X-archive-position: 972 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Lennie waves, sadly...

AlaMOO is still experiencing some problems, and I was hoping some of you might provide a little perspective and help. On 11/12, AlaMOO lost about three weeks of uptime, and we have not been able to restore this lost data (alas).

Cause(s) of the problem--how could it happen?
It seems pretty clear to me now that the current database running in the MOO was replaced by either the moo.db or the moo old.db.  The date for those files was 10/21 which matches with the version of the moo that was running after the problem occurred. 

I know that upon a moo server reboot the RAM version of the MOO is written to the moo.db and moo.old file, while the moo new.db keeps a continuously updated version of the MOO via checkpointing.  I was wondering if anyone might know of what could have caused one of these older versions of the moo db to be written instead of the moo new.db.  We have done mooserver reboots since the problem and not experienced the loss of data, so I believe our restart batch file is correct.

One coincident factor that might have contributed to the problem may have come from my actions.  I am able to "see" the AlaMOO folder on the ranger.accd.edu server.  Even though our technicians run weekly tape backups of the whole server, and do a dynamic backup of the server nightly, I have been doing my own clandestine backup by copying the AlaMOO folder onto my own workstation.  I simply created a dated backup folder and copy the MOO into this new folder.  I have copied the AlaMOO folder this way once or twice a month for the last two years. 

On the particular day when the problem seems to have occurred, I did one of my backups.  However, this time I experienced an error message I have never had before.  The flying folders were interrupted with an error message saying the copying could not proceed because of a file sharing problem with winmoo.exe--file already in use.  I closed the error message and it stopped the copying.  I thought about it for a little while, and then tried the copying again.  This time the copying was successful without an error message.  Could this problem with copying the folder and the file sharing violation with winmoo have caused the problem?  How?  How come I haven't experienced this file sharing error in the past (and I just tried the copying a moment ago and the error did not occur)?

How do you restore lost data from a backup copy?
What is the sequence for restoring lost data?  What file(s) exactly do you replace?
Do you copy a backup version of moo new.db over the current version of the moo new.db and then reboot?  Do you recopy all three backup copies of the moo db into the current MOO directory and then reboot?  Do you shut down the moo, then copy in the backup copies, and then restart the moo server?

I appreciate your help and perspective on this problem.  Thanks!


Lennie



L. Lennie Irvin
English Instructor, San Antonio College
1300 San Pedro Ave.
San Antonio, TX 78212
Lirvin@accd.edu
http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/

AlaMOO: http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/AlaMOO/
 From sscinica@richmond.edu Tue Dec 2 16:58:35 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 02 Dec 2003 16:58:35 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20EAC5BC7 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:58:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32925A49 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:58:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03330-01-41 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:58:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from monty.richmond.edu (monty.richmond.edu [141.166.188.13]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E17134A2 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:58:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from penny.richmond.edu (penny.richmond.edu [141.166.188.34]) by monty.richmond.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB2MwVQ06774 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:58:31 -0500 Received: from polyester.richmond.edu ([141.166.188.14]) by penny.richmond.edu (SAVSMTP 3.1.2.35) with SMTP id M2003120217583105214 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:58:31 -0500 Received: from urmail-ag.richmond.edu (urmail-ag.richmond.edu [141.166.183.2]) by polyester.richmond.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB2MwU817870 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:58:30 -0500 Received: by urmail-ag.richmond.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:58:30 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Scinicariello, Sharon" To: "'encore@utdallas.edu'" Subject: [encore] Upgrade Question Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:58:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamxCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=0, required 5) X-archive-position: 973 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: sscinica@richmond.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: sscinica@richmond.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore I am new to this list, so please excuse me if this has been answered before. I inherited a MOO running High Wired enCore 1.0 on version 1.8.0p6 of the LambdaMOO server code. I want to upgrade to 3.3.4. The server administrator wants to upgrade the OS to RedHat 9. Are there any known problems with the combination of RedHat 9, the latest version of the Lambda core, and enCore 3.3.4? Is it possible to use the database from the old version as the foundation for the new MOO? If so, what is it called and where is it stored? Thanks for your help. Sharon Scinicariello, Ph.D. Director, Multimedia Language Laboratory Department of Modern Languages and Literatures University of Richmond, VA 23173 (804)287-6838 From jan.holmevik@uib.no Tue Dec 2 17:09:40 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:09:40 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F9275BC7 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:09:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA0626BC for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:09:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03851-01-57 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:09:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63BE034DA for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:09:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from c68.113.221.149.ts46v-03.dntn.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.3]) [68.113.221.149] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ARJe5-0000SH-00; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 00:09:30 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:09:28 -0600 Subject: [encore] Re: Upgrade Question From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: ea9a25fe40c21fd40f2ac683f2f69552 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 5.8 hits, 9.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; * 2.7 -- BODY: No experience needed! * 3.1 -- BODY: Contains an ASCII-formatted form X-archive-position: 974 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Sharon and welcome to the list, I have no experience with RedHat per. se. but I can tell you that the MOO database is cross platform so you can move it any OS you like. If your old server binaries give you any problems simply download the 1.8.1 source code from the enCore web site and recompile. Upgrading from 1.0 to 3.3.4 is going to be quite a job :) Before you start you need to determine to what degree your existing database has been modified locally. If there's been substantial changes made to the core you will have to incorporate these into the enCore patches or else those modifications will be overwritten. Proceed slowly and test your MOO after each patch to catch and problems. Feel free to utilize this list for support if you run into problems. Another way to do this is to start fresh with a 3.3.4 core and 'recreate' as much of the old MOO as you want. Cheers, Jan On 12/2/03 4:58 PM, "Scinicariello, Sharon" wrote: > I am new to this list, so please excuse me if this has been answered before. > > I inherited a MOO running High Wired enCore 1.0 on version 1.8.0p6 of the > LambdaMOO server code. > I want to upgrade to 3.3.4. The server administrator wants to upgrade the > OS to RedHat 9. > > Are there any known problems with the combination of RedHat 9, the latest > version of the Lambda core, and enCore 3.3.4? > > Is it possible to use the database from the old version as the foundation > for the new MOO? If so, what is it called and where is it stored? > > Thanks for your help. > > > > > Sharon Scinicariello, Ph.D. > Director, Multimedia Language Laboratory > Department of Modern Languages and Literatures > University of Richmond, VA 23173 > (804)287-6838 > > __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From jung@uib.no Wed Dec 3 16:24:06 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 03 Dec 2003 16:24:06 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697FF5BE4 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:24:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386F5A984 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:24:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11139-01-43 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:24:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from rolf.uib.no (rolf.uib.no [129.177.30.19]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3A6034DA for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 16:24:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from alfred.uib.no (smtp.uib.no) [129.177.30.120] by rolf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ARfPb-0000Mt-2j; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:23:59 +0100 Received: from tunnel-45-53.vpn.uib.no (Daniel2667.uib.no) [129.177.45.53] by smtp.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ARfPa-00015I-00; Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:23:58 +0100 Message-Id: <5.2.0.8.2.20031203230612.01a8a1f0@alf.uib.no> X-Sender: fafdj@alf.uib.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.8 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:24:03 +0100 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Daniel Jung Subject: [encore] microtime Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-checked-clean: by exiscan on rolf X-Scanner: 557cb7feb189120ad60a78784968180b http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 0.0 hits, 9.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; X-archive-position: 975 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jung@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jung@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi I want to measure a few things in the MOO. I wonder how I can access microtime (milliseconds). The time() function is to coarse since it just displays seconds. Do I have to do that on the server or can I do that from the MOO? BTW: Counting seconds since 1970 and knowing that the largest integer the MOO is capable of handling is 2147483647 means that we can run this database continually until Mon Jan 18 19:14:07 2038 PST... (~ Kevlar on http://sindome.org/cgi-bin/ikonboard/topic.cgi?forum=13&topic=16) - Daniel From jung@uib.no Wed Dec 3 18:53:51 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 03 Dec 2003 18:53:51 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F8505BCB for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:53:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC6EB252 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:53:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18757-01-90 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:53:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from rolf.uib.no (rolf.uib.no [129.177.30.19]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2956334DA for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:53:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from alfred.uib.no (smtp.uib.no) [129.177.30.120] by rolf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ARhkY-0003BN-Qp; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 01:53:46 +0100 Received: from tunnel-45-53.vpn.uib.no (Daniel2667.uib.no) [129.177.45.53] by smtp.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ARhkY-0001ea-00; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 01:53:46 +0100 Message-Id: <5.2.0.8.2.20031204012058.01a99430@alf.uib.no> X-Sender: fafdj@alf.uib.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.8 Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 01:53:50 +0100 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Daniel Jung Subject: [encore] Re: MOO Mailer package: Michael's comment In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.0.8.2.20031202073130.01ab4008@alf.uib.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-checked-clean: by exiscan on rolf X-Scanner: 496948a6898d8872565f98c9f9926b86 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 0.0 hits, 9.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; X-archive-position: 976 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jung@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jung@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Thanks for your comments. At 01:03 04.12.2003, you wrote: >- $Xpress_MOO_Mailer:send_mail is Yet Another Verb That Needs Player Set. How observant. Thanks, I inserted that. >- I would verbify references to this.xpress_moo_mailer_strings as > this:xpress_moo_mailer_strings(user), with the following definition: I already did that... What I did in my multilingual design (some of my running MOOs) is: strings = user:lang().xpress_moo_mailer_strings where user:lang() returns a language object: user.lang == "German" ? => $germ_utils (with German strings) user.lang == "French" ? => $french_utils (with French strings) etc., all children of $lang_utils -- which also is the default return value for that verb and carry the English strings. I don't think the strings should be on the user (the same goes for pronouns etc.), for language switching reasons (or gender, for that matter). I took all out of that to make it a distributable version. A design like that should be global, and it seemed like an overkill to me to introduce $lang_utils just for the MOO Mailer. >Also, I prefer to use ALL-UPPERCASE variable names for data types and >errors (INT, LIST, E_PROPNF, etc.) only but that's a matter of taste. I don't quite understand: lowercase data types (list, int, str) and errors are replaced UPPERCASE by the parser (LIST, INT, STR) , as are uppercase typecast methods. But I can't see where I shouldn't have complied to that? Again, it is very nice to read your opinion. - Daniel From fox@vader.aacc.edu Wed Dec 3 18:41:34 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:19:48 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730015BCB for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:41:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44298B1B2 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:41:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18291-01-88 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:41:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from vader.aacc.edu (vader.aacc.cc.md.us [12.167.138.28]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B463734C3 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:41:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from vader.aacc.edu (IDENT:Hlmf2ikQzf0jtw6+InJ3kzs0v4pidS/l@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vader.aacc.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB40f8sn019238; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:41:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (fox@localhost) by vader.aacc.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id hB40f852019125; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:41:08 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:41:08 -0500 (EST) From: "PauAmma@Falcon aka Michel@Achieve" To: Daniel Jung Cc: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: microtime In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.8.2.20031203230612.01a8a1f0@alf.uib.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 977 X-Approved-By: cynthiah@utdallas.edu X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: fox@vader.aacc.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: fox@vader.aacc.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, Daniel Jung wrote: > Hi > > I want to measure a few things in the MOO. I wonder how I can access > microtime (milliseconds). The time() function is to coarse since it just > displays seconds. Do I have to do that on the server or can I do that from > the MOO? You need to write a builtin that does that. You could probably crib a large part of it from time(), with a couple caveats: - To avoid any race conditions, you want a single builtin to return seconds and microseconds, not just microseconds. Otherwise, you could get problems when the microseconds wrap around at exactly the wrong time, eg in: seconds = time(); "Wrap around (microseconds become zero, seconds bumped by one)"; micros = microtime(); "Now it's nearly 1 second later than we think."; - Depending on the resolution you need, you want either to return a FLOAT (C double, IIRC, not C float) or a {INT, INT}. Also, the actual resolution and accuracy you can get are hardware- and OS-dependent, making it hard to write portable MOO code using this feature. > BTW: Counting seconds since 1970 and knowing that the largest integer the > MOO is capable of handling is 2147483647 means that we can run this > database continually until Mon Jan 18 19:14:07 2038 PST. "But everyone will have switched to 128-bit machines by then and the Sun will go nova before we have any problem." (famous last words) -- "I'd ask if you'd found the right sort of isolated wasteland for your citadel of dread yet, but that would be a silly question; you're in Utah, after all." --ESR to Darl McBride (Chief Excessive Ossifier of Squandered Clues Obstination), in http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/mcbride.html From fox@vader.aacc.edu Wed Dec 3 18:04:22 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 03 Dec 2003 23:20:11 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE815BCB for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:04:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C26AF20 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:04:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 17254-01-26 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:04:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from vader.aacc.edu (vader.aacc.cc.md.us [12.167.138.28]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A3C34C3 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 18:04:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from vader.aacc.edu (IDENT:2O0QY0kZD8xsp1NpRw9EfzPJ5YTjxqxy@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vader.aacc.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB403isn025964; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:03:50 -0500 Received: from localhost (fox@localhost) by vader.aacc.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id hB403inA025860; Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:03:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 19:03:44 -0500 (EST) From: "PauAmma@Falcon aka Michel@Achieve" To: Daniel Jung Cc: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: MOO Mailer package In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.8.2.20031202073130.01ab4008@alf.uib.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 978 X-Approved-By: cynthiah@utdallas.edu X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: fox@vader.aacc.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: fox@vader.aacc.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Daniel Jung wrote: > Hi all, > > I have written a MOO Mailer upgrade package which I am submitting to Jan > Rune for the next Xpress version. Works like a charm here, but it would be > nice if some of you could test it as well and give your two cents > (different browsers, different kinds of mail boxes). Some features: Looks nice at first glance (haven't tried running it). 2 things jump out: - $Xpress_MOO_Mailer:send_mail is Yet Another Verb That Needs Player Set. $mail_agent:send_message calls $mail_agent:raw_send, which may call player:notify. (Changing $mail_agent:raw_send not to do that if player is invalid or unset wouldn't do the trick, as someone will eventually get a custom :notify_mail that relies on player being set.) Inserting: player = user; just above the call to $mail_agent:send_message should do the trick. (BTW, that's also true of the stock 3.3.4 $mail_agent:send_message. *hint*) - I would verbify references to this.xpress_moo_mailer_strings as this:xpress_moo_mailer_strings(user), with the following definition: @verb $Xpress_MOO_Mailer:xpress_moo_mailer_strings this none this rxd @program $Xpress_MOO_Mailer:xpress_moo_mailer_strings return this.(verb); This paves the way to a multilingual setup, eg by changing the above to: {user} = args; return `user.(verb) ! E_PROPNF => this.(verb)'; (Yes, I know this has problems of its own, but it's a step in the right direction, IMO.) Also, I prefer to use ALL-UPPERCASE variable names for data types and errors (INT, LIST, E_PROPNF, etc.) only but that's a matter of taste. -- "I'd ask if you'd found the right sort of isolated wasteland for your citadel of dread yet, but that would be a silly question; you're in Utah, after all." --ESR to Darl McBride (Chief Excessive Ossifier of Squandered Clues Obstination), in http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/mcbride.html From fox@vader.aacc.edu Thu Dec 4 01:31:32 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 04 Dec 2003 01:34:59 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D48275BC7 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:31:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FC8B322 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:31:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03712-01-75 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:31:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from vader.aacc.edu (vader.aacc.edu [12.167.138.28]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721D634C2 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:31:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from vader.aacc.edu (IDENT:XexVxWyzsznlpnyx2PJgj7MLhzv7GvtB@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vader.aacc.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id hB47V6sn018998; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 02:31:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (fox@localhost) by vader.aacc.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id hB47V6dC018895; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 02:31:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 02:31:06 -0500 (EST) From: "PauAmma@Falcon aka Michel@Achieve" To: Daniel Jung Cc: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: MOO Mailer package: Michael's comment In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.8.2.20031204012058.01a99430@alf.uib.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 979 X-Approved-By: cynthiah@utdallas.edu X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: fox@vader.aacc.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: fox@vader.aacc.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Daniel Jung wrote: > >- I would verbify references to this.xpress_moo_mailer_strings as > > this:xpress_moo_mailer_strings(user), with the following definition: > > I already did that... What I did in my multilingual design (some of my > running MOOs) is: > > strings = user:lang().xpress_moo_mailer_strings That works too. > I don't think the > strings should be on the user (the same goes for pronouns etc.), for > language switching reasons (or gender, for that matter). Agreed. That's one of the problems I was referring to. > I took all out of that to make it a distributable version. A design like > that should be global, and it seemed like an overkill to me to introduce > $lang_utils just for the MOO Mailer. Probably. I just wanted to mention the possibility. > >Also, I prefer to use ALL-UPPERCASE variable names for data types and > >errors (INT, LIST, E_PROPNF, etc.) only but that's a matter of taste. > > I don't quite understand: lowercase data types (list, int, str) and errors > are replaced UPPERCASE by the parser (LIST, INT, STR) , as are uppercase > typecast methods. But I can't see where I shouldn't have complied to that? Sorry if I was unclear. I didn't mean "don't use lowercase for these variables", I meant "don't use uppercase for other variables". (cf. WAC in your authentication code.) -- "I'd ask if you'd found the right sort of isolated wasteland for your citadel of dread yet, but that would be a silly question; you're in Utah, after all." --ESR to Darl McBride (Chief Excessive Ossifier of Squandered Clues Obstination), in http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/mcbride.html From herve@hawaii.edu Sun Dec 7 22:37:50 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 07 Dec 2003 22:37:50 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246495BAA for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:37:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8CC52DF9 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:37:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20114-01-50 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:37:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from rapidash.its.hawaii.edu (rapidash.its.hawaii.edu [128.171.94.83]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E856E3497 for ; Sun, 7 Dec 2003 22:37:43 -0600 (CST) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail.hawaii.edu by mail.hawaii.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.14 (built Oct 8 2003)) id <0HPK004017AZSH@mail.hawaii.edu>; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:37:42 -1000 (HST) Received: from uhunix2 (uhunix2.its.hawaii.edu [128.171.44.7]) by mail.hawaii.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.14 (built Oct 8 2003)) with ESMTPS id <0HPK00NGG7IU2R@mail.hawaii.edu>; Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:37:42 -1000 (HST) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:37:42 -1000 (HST) From: rv Subject: [encore] Re: microtime X-X-Sender: herve@uhunix2 To: encore@utdallas.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 980 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: herve@hawaii.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: herve@hawaii.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Daniel, check out ext-martian.c at: http://www.martian.cx/Code/MOO/ Aloha, rv, > I want to measure a few things in the MOO. I wonder how I can access microtime (milliseconds). The time() function is to coarse since it just displays seconds. Do I have to do that on the server or can I do that from the MOO? From antonio.roversi@unibo.it Mon Dec 8 13:41:37 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 08 Dec 2003 13:48:51 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588DE5BAA for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:41:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469072B9A for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:41:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25363-01-82 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:41:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from ms003msg.fastwebnet.it (ms003msg.fastwebnet.it [213.140.2.42]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D7E34CC for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:41:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from [37.255.74.78] (37.255.74.78) by ms003msg.fastwebnet.it (6.7.019) id 3FCB6952000EF4AF for encore@utdallas.edu; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:41:31 +0100 From: Antonio Roversi To: enCore list Subject: [encore] What is wrong with HTML ? Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 20:36:00 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200312082036.00658.antonio.roversi@unibo.it> X-archive-position: 981 X-Approved-By: cynthiah@utdallas.edu X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: antonio.roversi@unibo.it Precedence: bulk Reply-to: antonio.roversi@unibo.it List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Dear all can you help me pls ? If i type in the Express Object Editor something like: blah blah blah


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Why ? Thanks to all Antonio enCore - Italy MOO http://mud.scform.unibo.it:7000/ From jung@uib.no Mon Dec 8 14:08:05 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 08 Dec 2003 14:08:05 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 547C05BAA for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:08:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFD24868 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:08:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27704-01-54 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:08:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from rolf.uib.no (rolf.uib.no [129.177.30.19]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA0534A7 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 14:08:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from alfred.uib.no (smtp.uib.no) [129.177.30.120] by rolf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ATRfh-0005aw-4u; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 21:07:57 +0100 Received: from tunnel-45-23.vpn.uib.no (Daniel2667.uib.no) [129.177.45.23] by smtp.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ATRfg-0006WL-00; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 21:07:56 +0100 Message-Id: <5.2.0.8.2.20031208205455.01b324c8@alf.uib.no> X-Sender: fafdj@alf.uib.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.8 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 21:07:48 +0100 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Daniel Jung Subject: [encore] Re: What is wrong with HTML ? In-Reply-To: <200312082036.00658.antonio.roversi@unibo.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-checked-clean: by exiscan on rolf X-Scanner: 1fba11a0c6b30478d886a9ef156d973f http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 1.4 hits, 9.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; * 0.1 -- BODY: HTML has images with 1000-1200 bytes of words * 1.2 -- BODY: Message is 0% to 10% HTML * 0.1 -- BODY: HTML included in message X-archive-position: 982 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jung@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jung@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Ciao Antonio At 20:36 08.12.2003, you wrote: >

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> >Why ? This is a known problem, or phenomenon. You are pasting HTML code into a a text which is assumed to be no-HTML. Texts are normally raw format, no tags. Thus texts are normally run through a verb $encore_web_utils:detect_urls(user, text), for clickability. Check out this verb. The third, optional, argument is "treat as html", defaults to 0. If you set that to 1, no tags are tagged. The solution: 1. Don't write tags (at least no a-tags and p/br-tags). or 2. Specify that the default in the verb should be 1 or 3. build a property on the object letting the owner decide if the verb should be run; e.g. text = $encore_web_utils:detect_urls(user, text, toint(object.text_treat_as_html) ? 1 | 0); Should have a radio button in the edit note text section which says "yes | no" on this as well, for easier setting. I have made this in a couple of generics. Works fine. Another thing is the wrapping in this verb, which isn't sophisticated enough for instances like
and the like. Part of the problem is the :insert_line_breaks(text) verb, which also causes trouble in rendering tables correctly. I might come back to this later of this list, since I wrote a workaround for that. - Daniel From sscinica@richmond.edu Mon Dec 8 16:51:22 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:51:22 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99A45BB3 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:51:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0E05A8F for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:51:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08850-01-12 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:51:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from monty.richmond.edu (monty.richmond.edu [141.166.188.13]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFBAC34A2 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:51:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from penny.richmond.edu (penny.richmond.edu [141.166.188.34]) by monty.richmond.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB8MpBQ08367 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:51:11 -0500 Received: from polyester.richmond.edu ([141.166.188.14]) by penny.richmond.edu (SAVSMTP 3.1.2.35) with SMTP id M2003120817511106515 for ; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 17:51:11 -0500 Received: from urmail-ag.richmond.edu (urmail-ag.richmond.edu [141.166.183.2]) by polyester.richmond.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8MpA817437 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:51:10 -0500 Received: by urmail-ag.richmond.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:51:10 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Scinicariello, Sharon" To: "'encore@utdallas.edu'" Subject: [encore] Installation Problem Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:51:00 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamxCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=0, required 5) X-archive-position: 983 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: sscinica@richmond.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: sscinica@richmond.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore I wrote last week about upgrading the MOO I inherited from enCore 1.0 on version 1.8.0p6 of the LambdaMOO server to 3.3.4, the whole installation to run on RedHat 9. We decided not to worry about an "upgrade," but to start completely over. The system administrator installed RedHat 9--with Apache as the web server--and then followed the instructions (http://lingua.utdallas.edu/encore/installation.html) for installing enCore and the LambdaMOO server (ftp://ftp.utdallas.edu/pub/ah/moo/LambdaMOO-1.8.1.tar.gz). The problem: we are able to telnet to the MOO, but we are not able to access the web interface from anything except localhost. And only the login page works; attempting to log in results in another error message. Clearly something is configured incorrectly. The current setup: home/cow (does it have to be named moo to work?) contains the following: enCore.db enCore.db.new enCore-latest.tar.gz enCore.log enCore.log.old LambdaMOO-1.8.1.tar.gz moo (executable) MOO-1.8.1 (directory) restart (executable) The encore directory is located in /var/www/html/encore Help? Solving this may answer our other questions, which mostly involve the way servers need to be configured on this campus for security reasons. The basic questions are whether the apache server needs to be configured to use port 7000 and how open does that server have to be for the MOO to function? Thanks for your help on such basic questions. Sharon Scinicariello, Ph.D. Director, Multimedia Language Laboratory Department of Modern Languages and Literatures University of Richmond, VA 23173 (804)287-6838 From karper@ics.purdue.edu Mon Dec 8 16:52:51 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 08 Dec 2003 16:52:51 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D205BB3 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:52:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C565A8D for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:52:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08869-01-11 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:52:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from expert.ics.purdue.edu (expert.ics.purdue.edu [128.210.10.11]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B443934A7 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 16:52:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from expert.ics.purdue.edu (IDENT:karper@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by expert.ics.purdue.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB8MqiJs008983; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:52:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (karper@localhost) by expert.ics.purdue.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) with ESMTP id hB8MqiSf008980; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:52:44 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: expert.ics.purdue.edu: karper owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:52:44 -0500 (EST) From: Erin E Karper To: "Scinicariello, Sharon" Cc: "'encore@utdallas.edu'" Subject: [encore] Re: Installation Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 984 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: karper@ics.purdue.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: karper@ics.purdue.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Did you connect to the MOO via telnet and run @configure-core to set up the MOO's web interface? Erin -- karper@expert.cc.purdue.edu Grad Student, Technology Maven expert.cc.purdue.edu/~karper Rhetoric and Composition @ Purdue "They learn to work within uncertainty, not as a surrender but as a natural state. " -- Johndan Johnson-Eilola, Datacloud From sscinica@richmond.edu Mon Dec 8 17:26:49 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 08 Dec 2003 17:26:49 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E7F5BB3 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:26:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4D828A9 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:26:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 10608-01-16 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:26:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from monty.richmond.edu (monty.richmond.edu [141.166.188.13]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC7223497 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 17:26:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from penny.richmond.edu (penny.richmond.edu [141.166.188.34]) by monty.richmond.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB8NQjQ26975; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:26:45 -0500 Received: from polyester.richmond.edu ([141.166.188.14]) by penny.richmond.edu (SAVSMTP 3.1.2.35) with SMTP id M2003120818264510670 ; Mon, 08 Dec 2003 18:26:45 -0500 Received: from urmail-ag.richmond.edu (urmail-ag.richmond.edu [141.166.183.2]) by polyester.richmond.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB8NQi832272; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:26:44 -0500 Received: by urmail-ag.richmond.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:26:44 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Scinicariello, Sharon" To: "'Erin E Karper'" Cc: "'encore@utdallas.edu'" , "Stefanovski, Sasko" Subject: [encore] Re: Installation Problem Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:26:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamxCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-3.2, required 5, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT) X-archive-position: 985 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: sscinica@richmond.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: sscinica@richmond.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Yes, but I just did it one more time and now, happily, we have part of the web interface. I am now able to log in as a player, but none of the images are appearing and, worse, I'm getting a java error. This is not a browser issue, as I'm able to use the LinguaMOO successfully. The errors are: in the status bar: Applet MOOtcam not loaded in the browser window: java.lang.ClassFormatError:MOOtcan (Bad magic number) Thanks for your help; I'm one step closer to success. Sharon > -----Original Message----- > From: Erin E Karper [mailto:karper@ics.purdue.edu] > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 5:53 PM > To: Scinicariello, Sharon > Cc: 'encore@utdallas.edu' > Subject: Re: [encore] Installation Problem > > > Did you connect to the MOO via telnet and run @configure-core > to set up the MOO's web interface? > > Erin > > -- > karper@expert.cc.purdue.edu Grad Student, Technology Maven > expert.cc.purdue.edu/~karper Rhetoric and > Composition @ Purdue > "They learn to work within uncertainty, not as a surrender > but as a natural state. " -- Johndan Johnson-Eilola, Datacloud > From jan.holmevik@uib.no Mon Dec 8 18:01:02 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 08 Dec 2003 18:01:03 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554315BB3 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:01:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11EBC5A6C for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:01:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11432-01-100 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:01:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36DD134E9 for ; Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:01:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from c68.113.221.149.ts46v-03.dntn.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.3]) [68.113.221.149] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1ATVJ8-0005rE-00; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 01:00:55 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2003 18:00:51 -0600 Subject: [encore] Re: Installation Problem From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: 4eac63f90e1a0a4dcd932c71b5b6c8f2 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 3.1 hits, 9.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; * 3.1 -- BODY: Contains an ASCII-formatted form X-archive-position: 986 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore It appears you have a permission problem with the enCore components. To resolve this you need to set permissions on all the affected files to readable, i.e: chmod a+r mootcan.jar Cheers, Jan On 12/8/03 5:26 PM, "Scinicariello, Sharon" wrote: > Yes, but I just did it one more time and now, happily, we have part of the > web interface. I am now able to log in as a player, but none of the images > are appearing and, worse, I'm getting a java error. This is not a browser > issue, as I'm able to use the LinguaMOO successfully. > > The errors are: > > in the status bar: Applet MOOtcam not loaded > in the browser window: java.lang.ClassFormatError:MOOtcan (Bad magic > number) > > Thanks for your help; I'm one step closer to success. > > Sharon > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Erin E Karper [mailto:karper@ics.purdue.edu] >> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 5:53 PM >> To: Scinicariello, Sharon >> Cc: 'encore@utdallas.edu' >> Subject: Re: [encore] Installation Problem >> >> >> Did you connect to the MOO via telnet and run @configure-core >> to set up the MOO's web interface? >> >> Erin >> >> -- >> karper@expert.cc.purdue.edu Grad Student, Technology Maven >> expert.cc.purdue.edu/~karper Rhetoric and >> Composition @ Purdue >> "They learn to work within uncertainty, not as a surrender >> but as a natural state. " -- Johndan Johnson-Eilola, Datacloud >> > > __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From sscinica@RICHMOND.EDU Tue Dec 9 10:18:16 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:18:16 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17D45BAA for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:18:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA4DA302 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:18:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18606-01-15 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:18:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from monty.richmond.edu (monty.richmond.edu [141.166.188.13]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BF534DA for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 10:18:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from penny.richmond.edu (penny.richmond.edu [141.166.188.34]) by monty.richmond.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9GI7Q15729 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:18:07 -0500 Received: from polyester.richmond.edu ([141.166.188.14]) by penny.richmond.edu (SAVSMTP 3.1.2.35) with SMTP id M2003120911180723859 for ; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 11:18:07 -0500 Received: from urmail-ag.richmond.edu (urmail-ag.richmond.edu [141.166.183.2]) by polyester.richmond.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9GI6818715 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:18:07 -0500 Received: by urmail-ag.richmond.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:18:06 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Scinicariello, Sharon" To: "'encore@utdallas.edu'" Subject: [encore] Re: Installation Problem--Still More Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:18:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamxCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.8, required 5, ASCII_FORM_ENTRY, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, QUOTE_TWICE_1) X-archive-position: 987 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: sscinica@RICHMOND.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-to: sscinica@RICHMOND.EDU List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore The permissions have been set so that everything is readable, but I'm still having the same problem: no images and a Java error: > > The errors are: > > > > in the status bar: Applet MOOtcam not loaded > > in the browser window: java.lang.ClassFormatError:MOOtcan > (Bad magic > > number) The permissions are set like this. in /var/www/html/ drwxr-xr-x 8 cow cow 4096 Dec 8 15:33 encore in /var/www/html/encore/ -rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 56219 Nov 17 01:14 changelog.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 866 Apr 5 2001 encore.css -rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 18793 Apr 5 2001 gpl.html drwxr-xr-x 6 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 images -rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 3138 Apr 14 2001 installation.html drwxr-xr-x 5 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 mootcan drwxr-xr-x 2 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 sounds drwxr-xr-x 2 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 stylesheets drwxr-xr-x 2 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 texts drwxr-xr-x 2 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 vase in /var/www/html/encore/mootcan -rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 125 Sep 30 2001 AUTHORS.TXT -rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 2616 Sep 30 2001 Changelog.txt drwxr-xr-x 2 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 docs -rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 3534 Sep 30 2001 INSTALL.TXT -rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 17989 Sep 30 2001 LICENSE.TXT -rwxr-xr-x 1 cow cow 16143 Sep 30 2001 mootcan-012.jar -rwxr-xr-x 1 cow cow 14609 Sep 30 2001 mootcan-050.jar -rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 2875 Sep 30 2001 README.TXT drwxr-xr-x 2 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 src-012 drwxr-xr-x 2 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 src-050 Any ideas? Sharon Scinicariello > -----Original Message----- > From: Jan Rune Holmevik [mailto:jan.holmevik@uib.no] > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:01 PM > To: enCore list > Subject: [encore] Re: Installation Problem > > > It appears you have a permission problem with the enCore > components. To resolve this you need to set permissions on > all the affected files to readable, i.e: > > chmod a+r mootcan.jar > > Cheers, > Jan > > On 12/8/03 5:26 PM, "Scinicariello, Sharon" > wrote: > > > Yes, but I just did it one more time and now, happily, we > have part of > > the web interface. I am now able to log in as a player, > but none of > > the images are appearing and, worse, I'm getting a java > error. This > > is not a browser issue, as I'm able to use the LinguaMOO > successfully. > > > > The errors are: > > > > in the status bar: Applet MOOtcam not loaded > > in the browser window: java.lang.ClassFormatError:MOOtcan > (Bad magic > > number) > > > > Thanks for your help; I'm one step closer to success. > > > > Sharon > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Erin E Karper [mailto:karper@ics.purdue.edu] > >> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 5:53 PM > >> To: Scinicariello, Sharon > >> Cc: 'encore@utdallas.edu' > >> Subject: Re: [encore] Installation Problem > >> > >> > >> Did you connect to the MOO via telnet and run > @configure-core to set > >> up the MOO's web interface? > >> > >> Erin > >> > >> -- > >> karper@expert.cc.purdue.edu Grad Student, Technology Maven > >> expert.cc.purdue.edu/~karper Rhetoric and > >> Composition @ Purdue > >> "They learn to work within uncertainty, not as a surrender > but as a > >> natural state. " -- Johndan Johnson-Eilola, Datacloud > >> > > > > > > > __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand > Philol_________________________________________ > University of Bergen > Department of Humanistic Informatics > jan.holmevik@uib.no > Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget > janruneh@utdallas.edu > N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY > http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan > > > From sscinica@richmond.edu Tue Dec 9 11:49:20 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 09 Dec 2003 11:49:20 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BEB5BAA for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:49:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA959A3CF for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:49:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25320-01-7 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:49:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from monty.richmond.edu (monty.richmond.edu [141.166.188.13]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6372334E0 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:49:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from penny.richmond.edu (penny.richmond.edu [141.166.188.34]) by monty.richmond.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hB9HjSQ08307; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:45:28 -0500 Received: from polyester.richmond.edu ([141.166.188.14]) by penny.richmond.edu (SAVSMTP 3.1.2.35) with SMTP id M2003120912452703606 ; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:45:27 -0500 Received: from urmail-ag.richmond.edu (urmail-ag.richmond.edu [141.166.183.2]) by polyester.richmond.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hB9HjS832043; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:45:28 -0500 Received: by urmail-ag.richmond.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:45:27 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Scinicariello, Sharon" To: "'Lennie Irvin'" Cc: "'encore@utdallas.edu'" Subject: [encore] Re: Installation Problem--Still More Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2003 12:45:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamxCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-2.2, required 5, ASCII_FORM_ENTRY, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT) X-archive-position: 988 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: sscinica@richmond.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: sscinica@richmond.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Thanks for your help. Luckily, with much coaching from Erin Karper and Jan Rune Holmevik, our MOO is now functioning. > -----Original Message----- > From: Lennie Irvin [mailto:lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 12:30 PM > To: sscinica@RICHMOND.EDU > Subject: Re: [encore] Re: Installation Problem--Still More > > > I think I might have had a similar problem when I upgraded to Encore > 3.0. As I recall, there are two versions of mootcan in the > installation > package. I at first installed the newest version of mootcan, but had > problems. I replaced the new version of mootcan with the > other version and > presto--it worked. You might try that? > > Lennie > > At 11:18 AM 12/9/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >The permissions have been set so that everything is > readable, but I'm > >still having the same problem: no images and a Java error: > > > > > > The errors are: > > > > > > > > in the status bar: Applet MOOtcam not loaded > > > > in the browser window: java.lang.ClassFormatError:MOOtcan > > > (Bad magic > > > > number) > > > >The permissions are set like this. > > > >in /var/www/html/ > >drwxr-xr-x 8 cow cow 4096 Dec 8 15:33 encore > > > >in /var/www/html/encore/ > > > >-rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 56219 Nov 17 01:14 changelog.txt > >-rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 866 Apr 5 2001 encore.css > >-rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 18793 Apr 5 2001 gpl.html > >drwxr-xr-x 6 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 images > >-rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 3138 Apr 14 2001 > installation.html > >drwxr-xr-x 5 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 mootcan > >drwxr-xr-x 2 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 sounds > >drwxr-xr-x 2 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 stylesheets > >drwxr-xr-x 2 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 texts > >drwxr-xr-x 2 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 vase > > > >in /var/www/html/encore/mootcan > > > >-rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 125 Sep 30 2001 AUTHORS.TXT > >-rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 2616 Sep 30 2001 Changelog.txt > >drwxr-xr-x 2 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 docs > >-rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 3534 Sep 30 2001 INSTALL.TXT > >-rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 17989 Sep 30 2001 LICENSE.TXT > >-rwxr-xr-x 1 cow cow 16143 Sep 30 2001 > mootcan-012.jar > >-rwxr-xr-x 1 cow cow 14609 Sep 30 2001 > mootcan-050.jar > >-rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 2875 Sep 30 2001 README.TXT > >drwxr-xr-x 2 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 src-012 > >drwxr-xr-x 2 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 src-050 > > > > > >Any ideas? > > > >Sharon Scinicariello > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jan Rune Holmevik [mailto:jan.holmevik@uib.no] > > > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:01 PM > > > To: enCore list > > > Subject: [encore] Re: Installation Problem > > > > > > > > > It appears you have a permission problem with the enCore > components. > > > To resolve this you need to set permissions on all the affected > > > files to readable, i.e: > > > > > > chmod a+r mootcan.jar > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Jan > > > > > > On 12/8/03 5:26 PM, "Scinicariello, Sharon" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, but I just did it one more time and now, happily, we > > > have part of > > > > the web interface. I am now able to log in as a player, > > > but none of > > > > the images are appearing and, worse, I'm getting a java > > > error. This > > > > is not a browser issue, as I'm able to use the LinguaMOO > > > successfully. > > > > > > > > The errors are: > > > > > > > > in the status bar: Applet MOOtcam not loaded > > > > in the browser window: java.lang.ClassFormatError:MOOtcan > > > (Bad magic > > > > number) > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help; I'm one step closer to success. > > > > > > > > Sharon > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: Erin E Karper [mailto:karper@ics.purdue.edu] > > > >> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 5:53 PM > > > >> To: Scinicariello, Sharon > > > >> Cc: 'encore@utdallas.edu' > > > >> Subject: Re: [encore] Installation Problem > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Did you connect to the MOO via telnet and run > > > @configure-core to set > > > >> up the MOO's web interface? > > > >> > > > >> Erin > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> karper@expert.cc.purdue.edu Grad Student, > Technology Maven > > > >> expert.cc.purdue.edu/~karper Rhetoric and > > > >> Composition @ Purdue > > > >> "They learn to work within uncertainty, not as a surrender > > > but as a > > > >> natural state. " -- Johndan Johnson-Eilola, Datacloud > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand > > > Philol_________________________________________ > > > University of Bergen > > > Department of Humanistic Informatics > > > jan.holmevik@uib.no > > > Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget > > > janruneh@utdallas.edu > > > N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY > > > http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan > > > > > > > > > > > L. Lennie Irvin > English Instructor, San Antonio College > 1300 San Pedro Ave. > San Antonio, TX 78212 > Lirvin@accd.edu > http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/ > > AlaMOO: http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/AlaMOO/ > From patterna@gvsu.edu Tue Dec 9 13:15:14 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 09 Dec 2003 13:15:14 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296C85BAA for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:15:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE26A46F for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:15:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01277-02-12 for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:15:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from gvsu.edu (b4.gwise.gvsu.edu [148.61.5.36]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C94234CC for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:15:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from SMTPDOM-MTA by gvsu.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:15:05 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.2 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 14:14:44 -0500 From: "Nancy Patterson" To: , Cc: Subject: [encore] mootcan versions and installation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-archive-position: 989 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: patterna@gvsu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: patterna@gvsu.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore I'm having the same problem Sharon is having, but I can't figure out how to install a different version of mootcan. Can someone help??? Nancy Nancy Patterson, PhD Literacy Studies Program Coordinator Grand Valley State University Editor "Tech Connect," Voices from the Middle Chair, Assembly on Computers in English patterna@gvsu.edu http://faculty.gvsu.edu/patterna >>> "Scinicariello, Sharon" 12/09/03 12:45PM >>> Thanks for your help. Luckily, with much coaching from Erin Karper and Jan Rune Holmevik, our MOO is now functioning. > -----Original Message----- > From: Lennie Irvin [mailto:lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 12:30 PM > To: sscinica@RICHMOND.EDU > Subject: Re: [encore] Re: Installation Problem--Still More > > > I think I might have had a similar problem when I upgraded to Encore > 3.0. As I recall, there are two versions of mootcan in the > installation > package. I at first installed the newest version of mootcan, but had > problems. I replaced the new version of mootcan with the > other version and > presto--it worked. You might try that? > > Lennie > > At 11:18 AM 12/9/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >The permissions have been set so that everything is > readable, but I'm > >still having the same problem: no images and a Java error: > > > > > > The errors are: > > > > > > > > in the status bar: Applet MOOtcam not loaded > > > > in the browser window: java.lang.ClassFormatError:MOOtcan > > > (Bad magic > > > > number) > > > >The permissions are set like this. > > > >in /var/www/html/ > >drwxr-xr-x 8 cow cow 4096 Dec 8 15:33 encore > > > >in /var/www/html/encore/ > > > >-rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 56219 Nov 17 01:14 changelog.txt > >-rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 866 Apr 5 2001 encore.css > >-rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 18793 Apr 5 2001 gpl.html > >drwxr-xr-x 6 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 images > >-rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 3138 Apr 14 2001 > installation.html > >drwxr-xr-x 5 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 mootcan > >drwxr-xr-x 2 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 sounds > >drwxr-xr-x 2 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 stylesheets > >drwxr-xr-x 2 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 texts > >drwxr-xr-x 2 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 vase > > > >in /var/www/html/encore/mootcan > > > >-rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 125 Sep 30 2001 AUTHORS.TXT > >-rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 2616 Sep 30 2001 Changelog.txt > >drwxr-xr-x 2 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 docs > >-rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 3534 Sep 30 2001 INSTALL.TXT > >-rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 17989 Sep 30 2001 LICENSE.TXT > >-rwxr-xr-x 1 cow cow 16143 Sep 30 2001 > mootcan-012.jar > >-rwxr-xr-x 1 cow cow 14609 Sep 30 2001 > mootcan-050.jar > >-rw-r--r-- 1 cow cow 2875 Sep 30 2001 README.TXT > >drwxr-xr-x 2 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 src-012 > >drwxr-xr-x 2 cow cow 4096 Apr 29 2003 src-050 > > > > > >Any ideas? > > > >Sharon Scinicariello > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jan Rune Holmevik [mailto:jan.holmevik@uib.no] > > > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:01 PM > > > To: enCore list > > > Subject: [encore] Re: Installation Problem > > > > > > > > > It appears you have a permission problem with the enCore > components. > > > To resolve this you need to set permissions on all the affected > > > files to readable, i.e: > > > > > > chmod a+r mootcan.jar > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Jan > > > > > > On 12/8/03 5:26 PM, "Scinicariello, Sharon" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, but I just did it one more time and now, happily, we > > > have part of > > > > the web interface. I am now able to log in as a player, > > > but none of > > > > the images are appearing and, worse, I'm getting a java > > > error. This > > > > is not a browser issue, as I'm able to use the LinguaMOO > > > successfully. > > > > > > > > The errors are: > > > > > > > > in the status bar: Applet MOOtcam not loaded > > > > in the browser window: java.lang.ClassFormatError:MOOtcan > > > (Bad magic > > > > number) > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help; I'm one step closer to success. > > > > > > > > Sharon > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: Erin E Karper [mailto:karper@ics.purdue.edu] > > > >> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 5:53 PM > > > >> To: Scinicariello, Sharon > > > >> Cc: 'encore@utdallas.edu' > > > >> Subject: Re: [encore] Installation Problem > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Did you connect to the MOO via telnet and run > > > @configure-core to set > > > >> up the MOO's web interface? > > > >> > > > >> Erin > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> karper@expert.cc.purdue.edu Grad Student, > Technology Maven > > > >> expert.cc.purdue.edu/~karper Rhetoric and > > > >> Composition @ Purdue > > > >> "They learn to work within uncertainty, not as a surrender > > > but as a > > > >> natural state. " -- Johndan Johnson-Eilola, Datacloud > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand > > > Philol_________________________________________ > > > University of Bergen > > > Department of Humanistic Informatics > > > jan.holmevik@uib.no > > > Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget > > > janruneh@utdallas.edu > > > N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY > > > http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan > > > > > > > > > > > L. Lennie Irvin > English Instructor, San Antonio College > 1300 San Pedro Ave. > San Antonio, TX 78212 > Lirvin@accd.edu > http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/ > > AlaMOO: http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/AlaMOO/ > From Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Wed Dec 10 15:35:46 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:35:46 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE0F5BB3 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:35:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2104A555 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:35:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18028-01-13 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:35:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from mailhub4.dartmouth.edu (mailhub4.Dartmouth.EDU [129.170.17.94]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A003434CC for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:35:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from [129.170.89.139] (moneil.Kiewit.dartmouth.edu [129.170.89.139]) by mailhub4.dartmouth.edu (8.12.10+DND/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hBALZgBj010196 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:35:43 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v606) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: encore@utdallas.edu From: "Mark A. O'Neil" Subject: [encore] Best combinations Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:35:42 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.606) X-MailScanner: No virus detected by mailhub4.Dartmouth.EDU X-archive-position: 990 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi all! If this is an available resource and I have missed it please just point me in the right direction. What happens to be the current best combinations of Browser/JVM/Mootcan/encore on each of the popular OSs I am possibly one of the last hold outs on 2.1.1 - have not found the time for upgrades and am having issues specifically with OS X and Panther JVM 1.4.1 (pick your browser...) Suggestions _very_ welcome. Thanks! -m From sscinica@richmond.edu Thu Dec 11 09:35:02 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:35:03 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A776F5BAA for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:35:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9464550D1 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:35:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00294-01-17 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:34:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from monty.richmond.edu (monty.richmond.edu [141.166.188.13]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574F934E4 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:34:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from penny.richmond.edu (penny.richmond.edu [141.166.188.34]) by monty.richmond.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id hBBFYrQ11650 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:34:53 -0500 Received: from polyester.richmond.edu ([141.166.188.14]) by penny.richmond.edu (SAVSMTP 3.1.2.35) with SMTP id M2003121110345202021 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:34:52 -0500 Received: from urmail-ag.richmond.edu (urmail-ag.richmond.edu [141.166.183.2]) by polyester.richmond.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hBBFYq805128 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:34:52 -0500 Received: by urmail-ag.richmond.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:34:52 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Scinicariello, Sharon" To: "'encore@utdallas.edu'" Subject: [encore] Question about VASE Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 10:34:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamxCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=0, required 5) X-archive-position: 991 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: sscinica@richmond.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: sscinica@richmond.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Thanks to all who helped. My MOO is now up and running, so I have a new question. Unless one is a wizard, any attempt to create a new VASE project gives a message that the character is not authorized to create projects. How do I, as a wizard, authorize someone to use this feature? Making a character a builder or programmer doesn't seem to work. I've also tried @designer [character name] and looked for help with no success. Thanks for any help you can offer. Sharon Scinicariello, Ph.D. Director, Multimedia Language Laboratory Department of Modern Languages and Literatures University of Richmond, VA 23173 (804)287-6838 From jason@jasonnolan.net Mon Dec 22 12:18:32 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 23 Dec 2003 02:58:56 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5255BAA for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:18:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4489B1C12 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:18:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11276-01-9 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:18:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from ComplicityTheory.local (user395.megabit.utoronto.ca [142.150.241.189]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAC434DC for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:18:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ComplicityTheory.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F84D219BCA for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:18:26 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nolanjas@mailbox91.utcc.utoronto.ca Message-Id: Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:22:41 -0500 To: Encore Mailing List From: JASON NOLAN Subject: [encore] Dead? ftp://ftp.utdallas.edu/pub/ah/moo/binaries/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-archive-position: 992 X-Approved-By: cynthiah@utdallas.edu X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jason@jasonnolan.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jason@jasonnolan.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore I've been trying to access ftp://ftp.utdallas.edu/pub/ah/moo/binaries/ but it seems to be down... at least the two times I've tried it over the past week. Is this just temporary? % ping ftp.utdallas.edu PING tangled.utdallas.edu (129.110.10.20): 56 data bytes ^C --- tangled.utdallas.edu ping statistics --- 7 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss From Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Tue Dec 23 08:25:02 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:25:02 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCBF5BBB for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:25:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F65DB01C for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:25:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28047-01-54 for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:25:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from out009.verizon.net (out009pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.131]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E0C34DC for ; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:25:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([64.222.178.199]) by out009.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20031223142500.OGEK15642.out009.verizon.net@[10.0.1.2]>; Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:25:00 -0600 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Encore Mailing List From: Mark A.O'Neil Subject: [encore] Re: Dead? ftp://ftp.utdallas.edu/pub/ah/moo/binaries/ Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 09:24:59 -0500 To: jason@jasonnolan.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out009.verizon.net from [64.222.178.199] at Tue, 23 Dec 2003 08:24:59 -0600 X-archive-position: 993 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Jason, I too have had problems getting at the FTP server but was eventually able to get access - this was a couple weeks ago. On another note. Is there a mootcan substitute that may simply be dropped in. One which works with most the common browsers out there? The mootcan I have (no version number off the top of my head) does not work in Safari. And enCore 2.1 does not like OS X Mozilla 1.5 - it doesn't recognize that javascript is available. Thanks, -m On Dec 22, 2003, at 12:22 PM, JASON NOLAN wrote: > I've been trying to access ftp://ftp.utdallas.edu/pub/ah/moo/binaries/ > but it seems to be down... at least the two times I've tried it over > the past week. > > Is this just temporary? > > % ping ftp.utdallas.edu > PING tangled.utdallas.edu (129.110.10.20): 56 data bytes > ^C > --- tangled.utdallas.edu ping statistics --- > 7 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss > From sir.van@uol.com.br Sun Dec 28 08:00:21 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 28 Dec 2003 08:00:21 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C825BAA for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 08:00:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 426F44803 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 08:00:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 16979-01-63 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 08:00:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtp.uol.com.br (smtpout5.uol.com.br [200.221.11.58]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC78734FA for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 08:00:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from Locutus (200-158-200-134.dsl.telesp.net.br [200.158.200.134]) by scorpion5.uol.com.br (Postfix) with SMTP id 13F828095 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 12:00:14 -0200 (BRST) Message-ID: <000f01c3cd4a$f52d5a50$0100a8c0@Locutus> From: "Sir Van" To: References: Subject: [encore] network connection problems Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 12:00:31 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-archive-position: 994 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: sir.van@uol.com.br Precedence: bulk Reply-to: sir.van@uol.com.br List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hello everybody-- I have a small network at home through which I can only connect to EncoreMOOs from the server. Everytime I try to connect from stats the talking area doesn't work and the web area just doesn't complete the connection. I use winproxy in my network. Cookies are enabled and I am using Internet Explorer 6.0. Any insight? Thanks, Van From sir.van@uol.com.br Sun Dec 28 09:02:13 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:02:13 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9339E5BAA for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:02:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F60532D for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:02:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26678-01-44 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:02:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtp.uol.com.br (smtpout3.uol.com.br [200.221.11.56]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C81349B for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 09:02:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from Locutus (200-158-200-134.dsl.telesp.net.br [200.158.200.134]) by scorpion3.uol.com.br (Postfix) with SMTP id B04A58171 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 13:02:08 -0200 (BRST) Message-ID: <001b01c3cd53$9bce8b10$0100a8c0@Locutus> From: "Sir Van" To: Subject: [encore] [BU-NOSPAM] Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 13:02:27 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=5.8 tagged_above=5.0 required=8.0 tests=BAYES_01, RCVD_IN_DSBL, RCVD_IN_SORBS, RCVD_IN_SORBS_HTTP, RCVD_IN_SORBS_MISC X-Spam-Level: ***** X-archive-position: 995 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: sir.van@uol.com.br Precedence: bulk Reply-to: sir.van@uol.com.br List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore I am Resending it for anti-spamming reasons... > Hello everybody-- > > I have a small network at home through > which I can only connect to EncoreMOOs > from the server. Everytime I try to connect from > stats the talking area doesn't work and the web area > just doesn't complete the connection. > > I use winproxy in my network. Cookies are enabled > and I am using Internet Explorer 6.0. > > Any insight? > > Thanks, > > Van > > > From jason@jasonnolan.net Mon Dec 29 14:34:37 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 31 Dec 2003 04:48:43 %z (CST) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from iq1.utdallas.edu (iq1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.7]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61BF45BBB for ; Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:34:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from mf1 (mf1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.8]) by iq1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF89A9DA for ; Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:34:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx2.utdallas.edu ([192.168.1.6]) by mf1 (mf1 [192.168.1.8]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08253-01-20 for ; Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:34:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from ComplicityTheory.local (user395.megabit.utoronto.ca [142.150.241.189]) by mx2.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E9C34C3 for ; Mon, 29 Dec 2003 14:34:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ComplicityTheory.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE3F23E873; Mon, 29 Dec 2003 15:34:32 -0500 (EST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nolanjas@mailbox91.utcc.utoronto.ca Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 15:17:18 -0500 To: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU From: JASON NOLAN Subject: [encore] Mootcan substitute... Cc: Encore Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-archive-position: 996 X-Approved-By: cynthiah@utdallas.edu X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jason@jasonnolan.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jason@jasonnolan.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore I think that the problems that mootcan has are endemic, and not its fault. While I can't get out java applet (http://zanid.com/mooca) working with Safari yet. It does work with Mozilla firebird. And we're just putting together a new version of MOOca which may work with Safari. Will keep you informed. J At 9:24 AM -0500 12/23/03, Mark A.O'Neil wrote: >On another note. Is there a mootcan substitute that may simply be >dropped in. One which works with most the common browsers out there? >The mootcan I have (no version number off the top of my head) does >not work in Safari. And enCore 2.1 does not like OS X Mozilla 1.5 - >it doesn't recognize that javascript is available.