From jeffwhite@uaa.alaska.edu Sun Jun 1 15:53:31 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 01 Jun 2003 15:53:31 %z (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F835BDB for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 15:53:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146821A1909 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 15:53:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01315-01-99 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 15:53:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ITSFW01.uaa.alaska.edu (webmail.uaa.alaska.edu [137.229.138.128]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8128238A8F for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 15:53:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sentinel.uaa.alaska.edu by ITSFW01.uaa.alaska.edu via smtpd (for ns0.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.1]) with ESMTP; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 12:53:10 -0800 Received: from [137.229.138.3] ([137.229.98.77]) by sentinel.uaa.alaska.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HFTM0J00.8YC for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 12:53:07 -0800 Received: from uaa-du-02-11.alaska.edu ([137.229.98.77]) by [137.229.138.3] via smtpd (for sentinel.uaa.alaska.edu [137.229.138.128]) with ESMTP; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 12:52:24 -0800 From: "Jeff White" To: Subject: [encore] Connecting DBs Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 12:40:22 -0800 Organization: University of Alaska Anchorage Message-ID: <000001c3287e$070f2810$4d62e589@Isocrates> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-archive-position: 850 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: afjcw@uaa.alaska.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: afjcw@uaa.alaska.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Something a while back came up about MOO db info outside of the MOO, but I don't see anything that deals with my question here exactly. I would like to find a better way to create MOO accts for my students. Currently, I do this (for an online class): 1. A form based registration that assigns a random password correlated to their University username. I've modified a few apps I use to share the same "users" table, and so the random password generated allows them into any of these areas. 2. When they go to the first page of my site, they log in with normal University info, it queries the LDAP server to be sure they are a registered student and then checks the username against my own DB to be sure the account is in the class. When it does that, I assign session variables for the username and associated (class specific) password. The students never know about that extra password. The MOO makes this a bit more probematic, b/c I don't seem able to share that same "users" table from my own DB. What I've done is put a field called MOO_ID, for which after they have registered for the rest of stuff, I create a MOO character and place the OBJ # in the field. I then change @new-password, and assign the randomly generated one from before to the username in the MOO. Two basic problems this causes--if the students change their password in the MOO, they are screwed until I fix it (I've never really had anyone do that...but); Second, it seems unnecessarily clunky. I'm just fishing for suggestions here or thoughts. An idea I hasd is that I may be going backwards--maybe beef up the MOO login page to give me more info when they first try (like the Guest window)...but I don't know how I'd use the table out of that either, really. Ideas? Or is this just likely the way it is for now? jeffwhite From herve@hawaii.edu Sun Jun 1 16:07:44 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 01 Jun 2003 16:07:44 %z (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8A25BDB for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:07:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE411A0D57 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:07:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01539-01-50 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:07:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from rapidash.its.hawaii.edu (rapidash.its.hawaii.edu [128.171.94.83]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD0938A8E for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:07:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail.hawaii.edu by mail.hawaii.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.11 (built Jan 28 2003)) id <0HFT00A01ME07U@mail.hawaii.edu>; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 11:07:27 -1000 (HST) Received: from herve.phys.hawaii.edu (herve.phys.hawaii.edu [128.171.11.114]) by mail.hawaii.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.11 (built Jan 28 2003)) with ESMTPS id <0HFT00939MOFH2@mail.hawaii.edu>; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 11:07:27 -1000 (HST) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 11:08:18 -1000 (HST) From: rv Subject: [encore] Re: Connecting DBs In-reply-to: <000001c3287e$070f2810$4d62e589@Isocrates> X-X-Sender: herve@herve.phys.hawaii.edu To: Jeff White Cc: encore@utdallas.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 851 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: herve@hawaii.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: herve@hawaii.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Jeff, what kid of DB do you use for your student? I'm not sure I understand everything correctly, but it seems that you would need your MOO to access your own DB. IF your DB is an ASCII file, what about using FUP to check upon it and update it? Which leads to another question: anyone has work in making MOO talk to mysql? Aloha, rv, > The MOO makes this a bit more probematic, b/c I don't seem able to share > that same "users" table from my own DB. What I've done is put a field > called MOO_ID, for which after they have registered for the rest of > stuff, I create a MOO character and place the OBJ # in the field. I then > change @new-password, and assign the randomly generated one from before > to the username in the MOO. > > Two basic problems this causes--if the students change their password in > the MOO, they are screwed until I fix it (I've never really had anyone > do that...but); Second, it seems unnecessarily clunky. > > I'm just fishing for suggestions here or thoughts. An idea I hasd is > that I may be going backwards--maybe beef up the MOO login page to give > me more info when they first try (like the Guest window)...but I don't > know how I'd use the table out of that either, really. > > Ideas? Or is this just likely the way it is for now? > > jeffwhite > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+2mtEgJTKqShLTdgRAgleAJ4loHCpYEI8nwcQw17YEI3xi6Hs6ACfTO9a pKMUmoc6f3mz04QIYyLhXVs= =0s4v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jeffwhite@uaa.alaska.edu Sun Jun 1 16:38:51 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 01 Jun 2003 16:38:51 %z (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153655BDB for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:38:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B241A163E for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:38:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03779-01-6 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:38:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ITSFW01.uaa.alaska.edu (sentinel.uaa.alaska.edu [137.229.138.128]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0263A38A91 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:38:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sentinel.uaa.alaska.edu by ITSFW01.uaa.alaska.edu via smtpd (for ns0.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.1]) with ESMTP; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 13:38:29 -0800 Received: from [137.229.138.3] ([137.229.98.77]) by sentinel.uaa.alaska.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id HFTO4200.8YP; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 13:38:26 -0800 Received: from uaa-du-02-11.alaska.edu ([137.229.98.77]) by [137.229.138.3] via smtpd (for sentinel.uaa.alaska.edu [137.229.138.128]) with ESMTP; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 13:37:43 -0800 From: "Jeff White" To: "'rv'" , "'Jeff White'" Cc: Subject: [encore] Re: Connecting DBs Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2003 13:25:41 -0800 Organization: University of Alaska Anchorage Message-ID: <000201c32884$5c039a80$4d62e589@Isocrates> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-archive-position: 852 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: afjcw@uaa.alaska.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: afjcw@uaa.alaska.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore rv Yes, I'd like the MOO to work with my own DB of users--so when they register with the class, the MOO automatically creates a character for them and assigns the same Password within the MOO that it assigns to them for other areas of my course space. I'm currently using Cold Fusion and connecting to an Access db, but will switch to php & mysql for the Fall as far as the class db goes. As I typed out that first part, I'm realizing that this may not work...I'd be automating a Wizard function (creating a character), and I'd want the PHP template to get the char's OBJ# from the MOO. It may be better, in the long run, to continue doing as I am. jeffwhite > -----Original Message----- > From: rv [mailto:herve@hawaii.edu] > Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 1:08 PM > To: Jeff White > Cc: encore@utdallas.edu > Subject: Re: [encore] Connecting DBs > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Jeff, > what kid of DB do you use for your student? > I'm not sure I understand everything correctly, but it seems that you > would need your MOO to access your own DB. > IF your DB is an ASCII file, what about using FUP to check > upon it and > update it? > > Which leads to another question: anyone has work in making > MOO talk to > mysql? > Aloha, > rv, > > > The MOO makes this a bit more probematic, b/c I don't seem able to > > share that same "users" table from my own DB. What I've > done is put a > > field called MOO_ID, for which after they have registered > for the rest > > of stuff, I create a MOO character and place the OBJ # in > the field. I > > then change @new-password, and assign the randomly > generated one from > > before to the username in the MOO. > > > > Two basic problems this causes--if the students change > their password > > in the MOO, they are screwed until I fix it (I've never really had > > anyone do that...but); Second, it seems unnecessarily clunky. > > > > I'm just fishing for suggestions here or thoughts. An idea > I hasd is > > that I may be going backwards--maybe beef up the MOO login page to > > give me more info when they first try (like the Guest > window)...but I > > don't know how I'd use the table out of that either, really. > > > > Ideas? Or is this just likely the way it is for now? > > > > jeffwhite > > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE+2mtEgJTKqShLTdgRAgleAJ4loHCpYEI8nwcQw17YEI3xi6Hs6ACfTO9a > pKMUmoc6f3mz04QIYyLhXVs= > =0s4v > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > From jung@uib.no Sun Jun 1 16:53:17 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 01 Jun 2003 16:53:18 %z (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58735BDB for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:53:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 787BA1A1968 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:53:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03061-01-63 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:53:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from rolf.uib.no (rolf.uib.no [129.177.30.19]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC1B38A8C for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:53:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alfred.uib.no (smtp.uib.no) [129.177.30.120] by rolf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19MalE-0003Qo-00; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 23:53:04 +0200 Received: from tunnel-44-13.vpn.uib.no (desktop.uib.no) [129.177.44.13] by smtp.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19MalE-0000Cd-00; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 23:53:04 +0200 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20030601232801.01b0df08@alf.uib.no> X-Sender: fafdj@alf.uib.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 23:53:06 +0200 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Daniel Jung Subject: [encore] Re: Connecting DBs In-Reply-To: <000001c3287e$070f2810$4d62e589@Isocrates> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-checked-clean: by exiscan on rolf X-Scanner: 42de01d9a303fb9c981a5d8bb61800be http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: -9.0 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; * -9.0 -- Message received from UIB X-archive-position: 853 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jung@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jung@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore At 22:40 01.06.2003 Sunday, you wrote: >I'm just fishing for suggestions here or thoughts. An idea I hasd is >that I may be going backwards--maybe beef up the MOO login page to give >me more info when they first try (like the Guest window)...but I don't >know how I'd use the table out of that either, really. We have a complete external authentication. We run several MOOs, and the=20 participants' data is stored in one single mysql-db, which is basically a=20 web forum database, with our extensions. When a registered player accesses the MOO through the external=20 authenticator for the first time (that is, if the MOO value for this player= =20 in the db is not a valid player object number), the MOO creates a profile=20 on a few arguments passed along from the cgi; name, real name, email=20 address, forum id etc. I have included a parent object number as well; this= =20 way, first timers are immediately @chparented into the right player class=20 (some are teachers, some not etc.). Then the newly created object number is= =20 passed back to the cgi and connected to that player in the db. Second time the player connects, his/her MOO player object number is passed= =20 on and he/she is authenticated in the MOO. Changes they might have done in= =20 their email address etc. are passed to the MOO again and updated. We don't= =20 use the encore login page anymore for registered participants. Of course,=20 the login page still exists, and login is possible there as well. But the=20 password isn't updated. I don't want to send passwords back and forth=20 between scripts on unsecure servers, so I chose to force our registered=20 students to always use the ext-auth. Still, you could choose to set and=20 update passwords this way as well. The main idea is to give them one place and one password to log in and have= =20 access to different resources, in our case a threaded web forum, an upload= =20 function and and all of our MOOs. This gives us (all rise!) ONE DB TO RULE= =20 THEM ALL! (at ease!). BTW, the scripts are based on the very fine work of my former co-worker=20 Sindre S=F8rensen. - Daniel From herve@hawaii.edu Sun Jun 1 16:55:49 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 01 Jun 2003 16:55:49 %z (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E73055BDB for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:55:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD931A19D5 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:55:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03057-01-76 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:55:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from rapidash.its.hawaii.edu (rapidash.its.hawaii.edu [128.171.94.83]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07A338A8E for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 16:55:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail.hawaii.edu by mail.hawaii.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.11 (built Jan 28 2003)) id <0HFT00001OHLVO@mail.hawaii.edu>; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 11:55:43 -1000 (HST) Received: from herve.phys.hawaii.edu (herve.phys.hawaii.edu [128.171.11.114]) by mail.hawaii.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 1.11 (built Jan 28 2003)) with ESMTPS id <0HFT00LKUOWS4S@mail.hawaii.edu>; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 11:55:40 -1000 (HST) Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 11:56:36 -1000 (HST) From: rv Subject: [encore] Re: Connecting DBs In-reply-to: <000201c32884$5c039a80$4d62e589@Isocrates> X-X-Sender: herve@herve.phys.hawaii.edu To: jeffwhite@uaa.alaska.edu Cc: encore@utdallas.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 854 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: herve@hawaii.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: herve@hawaii.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > I'm currently using Cold Fusion and connecting to an Access db, but will > switch to php & mysql for the Fall as far as the class db goes. Jeff, I'd like to know how it goes with mysql/MOO. I started to learn it in order to improve our DB efficiency. Right now, I'm using ASCII db with delimiters: class;crn;last_name;first_name;email;key;etc... and I use FUP to check upon them, update etc... for our web apps controlled by MOO (Online surveys) whenever a request is received from the Web. At some point, I'd like to replace all those with mysql tables, and just trigger the query using FUP, get the results and send it back to our $httpd object. but right now, I dunno what I'm doing with mysql, yet...;) Aloha, rv, > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > Jeff, > > what kid of DB do you use for your student? > > I'm not sure I understand everything correctly, but it seems that you > > would need your MOO to access your own DB. > > IF your DB is an ASCII file, what about using FUP to check > > upon it and > > update it? > > > > Which leads to another question: anyone has work in making > > MOO talk to > > mysql? > > Aloha, > > rv, > > > > > The MOO makes this a bit more probematic, b/c I don't seem able to > > > share that same "users" table from my own DB. What I've > > done is put a > > > field called MOO_ID, for which after they have registered > > for the rest > > > of stuff, I create a MOO character and place the OBJ # in > > the field. I > > > then change @new-password, and assign the randomly > > generated one from > > > before to the username in the MOO. > > > > > > Two basic problems this causes--if the students change > > their password > > > in the MOO, they are screwed until I fix it (I've never really had > > > anyone do that...but); Second, it seems unnecessarily clunky. > > > > > > I'm just fishing for suggestions here or thoughts. An idea > > I hasd is > > > that I may be going backwards--maybe beef up the MOO login page to > > > give me more info when they first try (like the Guest > > window)...but I > > > don't know how I'd use the table out of that either, really. > > > > > > Ideas? Or is this just likely the way it is for now? > > > > > > jeffwhite > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQE+2mtEgJTKqShLTdgRAgleAJ4loHCpYEI8nwcQw17YEI3xi6Hs6ACfTO9a > > pKMUmoc6f3mz04QIYyLhXVs= > > =0s4v > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+2naWgJTKqShLTdgRAkNSAKD10LYFE/5f69vgfcFip1T7MlTVgQCg2kG+ Ef/tuoRJeP5dBzk528SGrQ0= =09+x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From egoff@mindspring.com Mon Jun 2 10:23:40 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 02 Jun 2003 10:23:40 %z (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768D35BDB for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:23:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2633A1A1E23 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:23:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19136-04-46 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:23:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from granger.mail.mindspring.net (granger.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.148]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4555F38A8C for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:23:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from user-2ivekrk.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.83.116] helo=master) by granger.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19Mr9l-0006Ka-00; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 11:23:30 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20030602112325.009863a8@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: egoff@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 11:23:25 -0400 To: jung@uib.no, encore@utdallas.edu From: Edward Goff Subject: [encore] Re: Connecting DBs In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20030601232801.01b0df08@alf.uib.no> References: <000001c3287e$070f2810$4d62e589@Isocrates> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-archive-position: 855 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: egoff@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: egoff@mindspring.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This like the end all to end all so my only question would be any pointers in the direction? Is anything your using private or is is shareable with the rest of us looking for things like this. IE: Do we all need to invent the wheel? Just toss me a nickel and I'll go buy some bubble gum. :) From lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Mon Jun 2 10:32:41 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 02 Jun 2003 10:32:41 %z (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1725BAD for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:32:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5901A1D51 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:32:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20235-01-24 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:32:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C78E38A93 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:32:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from GH208-LIRVIN.accdvm.accd.edu [10.11.36.44] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 10:31:12 CDT Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20030602102829.00b0c4e0@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 10:30:58 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Lennie Irvin Subject: [encore] Re: Connecting DBs In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20030602112325.009863a8@pop.mindspring.com> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20030601232801.01b0df08@alf.uib.no> <000001c3287e$070f2810$4d62e589@Isocrates> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 856 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore I'll echo Edward's question. I seem to remember Old Pueblo MOO having something like what Jeff described for "registering" new students/users. Lennie At 11:23 AM 6/2/2003 -0400, Edward Goff wrote: >This like the end all to end all so my only question would be any pointers >in the direction? Is anything your using private or is is shareable with >the rest of us looking for things like this. IE: Do we all need to invent >the wheel? > > >Just toss me a nickel and I'll go buy some bubble gum. :) L. Lennie Irvin English Instructor, San Antonio College 1300 San Pedro Ave. San Antonio, TX 78212 Lirvin@accd.edu http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/lirvin.htm AlaMOO: http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/AlaMOO/index.htm From egoff@mindspring.com Mon Jun 2 19:19:04 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 02 Jun 2003 19:19:04 %z (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F6D5BF0 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 19:19:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04FC51A2322 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 19:19:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26186-01-32 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 19:18:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.60]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C46D38AB0 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 19:18:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from user-2inigb1.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.121.65.97] helo=master) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19MzVy-0003B0-00 for encore@utdallas.edu; Mon, 02 Jun 2003 20:18:58 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20030602201848.00971b58@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: egoff@pop.mindspring.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 20:18:48 -0400 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Edward Goff Subject: [encore] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <5.1.1.5.2.20030601232801.01b0df08@alf.uib.no> References: <000001c3287e$070f2810$4d62e589@Isocrates> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-archive-position: 857 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: egoff@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: egoff@mindspring.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore With all this talk of new idea's springing forth. I think I have had one of my own and I am curious to know if anyone else has done, thought, banged there head on a wall, of this. I am looking at converting fully to Encore style database. I run a RPG moo, while this is not educational, it might have a point to it. In my case I want to use it so that if a player looks at a door they can "see" it in the image window. Also if they "click" on the knob will it open or just rattle becuase its locked. While this is my RPG geekdom speaking. I think that if we had this ability to say "click on a power button" and the project comes on or other possiblies it woul dbe intersting. My only concern is how to add one more window/frame the the system. I like the ability to "see" objects but if you click on 1 item you lose that item. Maybe we could have a dual window on the right so that 1 shows your "room view" and one shows "last item" view Would allow for an image of the "person" talking to be shown or an object looked at. Other ideas come to me as we ponder the potential for flash, VRML, MYSQL and other such ideas. egoff From jung@uib.no Mon Jun 2 21:37:53 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 02 Jun 2003 21:37:53 %z (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D08275BF0 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 21:37:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779A31A1C21 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 21:37:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02114-08-60 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 21:37:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from rolf.uib.no (rolf.uib.no [129.177.30.19]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 277FB38A9D for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 21:37:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alfred.uib.no (smtp.uib.no) [129.177.30.120] by rolf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19N1fz-0004Yu-00; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 04:37:27 +0200 Received: from tunnel-43-25.vpn.uib.no (desktop.uib.no) [129.177.43.25] by smtp.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19N1fz-0001qp-00; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 04:37:27 +0200 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20030603035411.01bd1580@alf.uib.no> X-Sender: fafdj@alf.uib.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 04:36:48 +0200 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Daniel Jung Subject: [encore] split webframe In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20030602201848.00971b58@pop.mindspring.com> References: <5.1.1.5.2.20030601232801.01b0df08@alf.uib.no> <000001c3287e$070f2810$4d62e589@Isocrates> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-checked-clean: by exiscan on rolf X-Scanner: a4d28352f7f0e2a36b1527d2570afd83 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: -9.0 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; * -9.0 -- Message received from UIB X-archive-position: 858 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jung@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jung@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore At 02:18 03.06.2003 Tuesday, egoff wrote: >[...] My only concern is how to add one more window/frame the the >system. I like >the ability to "see" objects but if you click on 1 item you lose that item. >Maybe we could have a dual window on the right so that 1 shows your "room >view" and one shows "last item" view Here's my five cents: I had students who complained about the webframe and that the space it uses is wasted on the one item they were looking at. More specific, they wondered if they could read two documents at once - one the translation they did on a given text, the other a teacher's solution suggestion. Or a fellow student's text. Without switching between windows and losing focus (in both senses of the expression). Great idea, I thought, and wrote a little script which splits the web frame into two sub frames on demand. The syntax is '@splitscreen #432 #543' (object names are parsed as well for convenience) - which results in objects #432 and #543 to be displayed in the web frame with a moveable frame bar (to the caller only). Horizontal mode gives vertical split and vice-versa. It's a text-only command. The verb simply calls an object which builds a frameset with the two objects in the argument string and saves this frameset temporarily as its own description, then displays itself to the caller. And yes, I have a guard check if the objects are rooms, so noone can look (i.e., be) at two places at the same time. Newton made such a big fuzz about that that I don't think we should touch that issue. A little ad hoc maybe, but it works fine for the purpose mentioned. I don't think I would write it quite the same way again if I had to, as there is only one splitscreen object carrying the split information, and overwriting it on other calls. Should be involving a personal property instead, kind of a memory to go back to if you have switched to a full frame view and want to go back. And so on. But a thing like this could very well be operationalized more globally. I can picture an icon next to the object link, refering to a script address containing two arguments and returning a split frame, one part containing the thing the caller already looks at, the other part containing the thing the caller wants to examine. I think this would be the way to go if I would have to point-and-click-alize the text command. That's far from VRML, but that may be a beginning. - Daniel From jung@uib.no Tue Jun 3 06:30:07 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 03 Jun 2003 06:30:07 %z (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0125BDC for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 06:30:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A8A1A0D1E for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 06:30:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02770-08-61 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 06:30:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from rolf.uib.no (rolf.uib.no [129.177.30.19]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C62C38A94 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 06:30:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alfred.uib.no (smtp.uib.no) [129.177.30.120] by rolf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19N9zJ-0005QI-00; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 13:29:57 +0200 Received: from tunnel-43-26.vpn.uib.no (desktop.uib.no) [129.177.43.26] by smtp.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19N9zJ-0005pJ-00; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 13:29:57 +0200 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20030603132411.01bd1a50@alf.uib.no> X-Sender: fafdj@alf.uib.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 13:29:58 +0200 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Daniel Jung Subject: [encore] Re: Connecting DBs In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-checked-clean: by exiscan on rolf X-Scanner: 857bc2c8b6798b67642b32c311989d9c http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: -9.0 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; * -9.0 -- Message received from UIB X-archive-position: 859 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jung@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jung@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore >Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 11:23:25 -0400 >From: Edward Goff >Subject: [encore] Re: Connecting DBs > >This like the end all to end all so my only question would be any pointers >in the direction? Is anything your using private or is is shareable with >the rest of us looking for things like this. IE: Do we all need to invent >the wheel? Of course it's sharable. You need a MOO object which handles the external authentication and a script outside pluss a db. I'll make a summary of it and clean the script a bit and make it accessible. I'll let you know. May take a little time, I am afraid, cause I am overloaded as usual. - Daniel From mlamarcus@eurekanet.com Fri Jun 6 14:24:46 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 06 Jun 2003 14:24:46 %z (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB955BAD for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:24:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4168B1A3844 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:24:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 00890-01-60 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:24:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from oak1a.cats.ohiou.edu (oak.cats.ohiou.edu [132.235.8.44]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B008038A99 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:24:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [132.235.45.232] (dhcp-045-232.cns.ohiou.edu [132.235.45.232]) by oak2a.cats.ohiou.edu (8.12.8-OU/8.12.8-OU) with ESMTP id h56JBRY91070616 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 15:11:27 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 15:11:28 -0400 Subject: [encore] "property not found" From: To: Encore Development Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 860 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: mlamarcus@eurekanet.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: mlamarcus@eurekanet.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hello everyone... I'm having a problem with the Encore Xpress interface -- and the properties therein. I cannot make changes to anything under the Wizard-->enCore Settings interface. Using @configure, I was able to change things from the command line interface, but (as non CL-savvy people need to use the Moo) I need to get the web interface to work. The error message is Blah blah, Contact the Moo Administrator An examination of the javascript shows a "Property Not Found" error. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm not a programmer, but I'm capable enough to implement changes if I can find the problem... Thanks, Emily Marcus Bob Katz Moo: http://wac.citl.ohiou.edu:7000/ -- e m i l y m a r c u s Graphics Instructional Media & Technology Services Ohio University Alden Library 225 Athens, Ohio 45701 marcuse@ohio.edu 740.597.2521 -- SCIENTIA EST POTENTIA From marcuse@ohio.edu Fri Jun 6 13:55:48 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 06 Jun 2003 16:02:40 %z (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D575BAD for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 13:55:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E037D1A38A2 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 13:55:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28264-01-87 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 13:55:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from oak1a.cats.ohiou.edu (oak.cats.ohiou.edu [132.235.8.44]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1818638A95 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 13:55:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [132.235.45.232] (dhcp-045-232.cns.ohiou.edu [132.235.45.232]) by oak2a.cats.ohiou.edu (8.12.8-OU/8.12.8-OU) with ESMTP id h56InuY91569582 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2003 14:49:57 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 14:49:57 -0400 Subject: [encore] "property not found" From: Emily Marcus To: Encore Development Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 861 X-Approved-By: cynthiah@utdallas.edu X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: marcuse@ohio.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: marcuse@ohio.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hello everyone... I'm having a problem with the Encore Xpress interface -- and the properties therein. I cannot make changes to anything under the Wizard-->enCore Settings interface. Using @configure, I was able to change things from the command line interface, but (as non CL-savvy people need to use the Moo) I need to get the web interface to work. The error message is Blah blah, Contact the Moo Administrator An examination of the javascript shows a "Property Not Found" error. Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm not a programmer, but I'm capable enough to implement changes if I can find the problem... Thanks, Emily Marcus Bob Katz Moo: http://wac.citl.ohiou.edu:7000/ -- e m i l y m a r c u s Graphics Instructional Media & Technology Services Ohio University Alden Library 225 Athens, Ohio 45701 marcuse@ohio.edu 740.597.2521 From rbowman@bridgewater.edu Sat Jun 7 06:20:46 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 07 Jun 2003 06:20:46 %z (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A6A5BAD for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 06:20:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77041A3B52 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 06:00:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25931-01-27 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 06:00:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Isis.bridgewater.edu (Isis.bridgewater.edu [147.138.10.100]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B6338A8C for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 06:00:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from testing.bridgewater.edu (Dial13.bridgewater.edu [147.138.110.213]) by Isis.bridgewater.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h57B0MxU010804 for ; Sat, 7 Jun 2003 07:00:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030607065007.022200d0@mail.bridgewater.edu> X-Sender: rbowman@mail.bridgewater.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 07:00:49 -0400 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Richard L Bowman Subject: [encore] Creating Rooms & Automatic Home Designation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 862 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: rbowman@Bridgewater.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-to: rbowman@Bridgewater.EDU List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore It had been awhile since I had created any rooms in our MOO. Our user base of faculty has been fairly stable. However, yesterday during an a week-long educational technology workshop I was leading, several of us did make some new rooms. Each time we did using the Xpress object editor, we discovered that the room that was created became our new "home". Is this standard behavior or have we gotten something messed up in our MOO database? We are running enCore v 3.3.3. (I was able to get each of our home properties changed back to the Entrance, but it was not the type of ting I have had to do routinely, so it took me awhile to figure it out.) BTW, a nice added feature, from the perspective of a few of us who still use the text commands regularly, would be to allow the designation of names for entrances and exits when a room is created using the Xpress object editor rather than having them automatically created as "To_...". Thanks for any assistance. Richard ------------------------ Richard L. Bowman Prof. of Physics / Dir. of Academic Computing Bridgewater College, Bridgewater, VA, USA http://www.bridgewater.edu/~rbowman/ From tengrrl@tengrrl.com Tue Jun 10 17:19:10 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:19:10 %z (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFB65BDD for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:19:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318441A2521 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:19:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11373-01-6 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:19:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from inter.interversity.net (inter.interversity.net [64.41.72.53]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A943D38A9B for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:19:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [64.41.72.53]) by inter.interversity.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB6A33F05 for ; Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:19:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:19:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Traci Gardner X-X-Sender: tengrrl@inter.interversity.net To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Internal Server Error -->Re: NorthwoodsMOO graphical login problem In-Reply-To: <002501c325db$95847fa0$0200a8c0@alex> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 863 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: tengrrl@tengrrl.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: tengrrl@tengrrl.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Any more ideas? I've tried tracing errors through with a :tell, but all I find out is that there's an internal server error. I'm not seeing anything that tells me what the error is. Kinda up against a rock and a hard place here...any additional ideas would help. Traci On Thu, 29 May 2003, Alexandre Borgia wrote: > I am not familiar with this error and the mechanisms it deals with are > quite complex. Someone more used to the web interface may see a very > specific problem here (maybe it's not even MOO-related), but as for me all I > can do is give some hints about the analytical approach I would use to fix > it. > > > The problem emanates from $list_utils:append, which takes MOO lists as > argument and concatenates them. One of these argument is probably not a > "list", hence causing the error. This function is called from > $httpd:generate_server_response_header - in my MOO the line looks like this: > > 37: result = $list_utils:append(response_header, html); > > What I usually do in these situations is connect from telnet with a > wiz-player and insert such code into problematic verbs: > > #2:tell("response_header: " + toliteral(response_header)); > #2:tell("html: " + toliteral(html)); > > (where "#2" would be the object number of my player). This example > inserted above line "37" would display to this player the text-formatted > content of both variables sent to $list_utils:append. A list is formatted > this way: > > {...} > > .. so one of these variable is probably messed up and would not display > as such. > > In the current situation, my guess is that the problem comes from "html" > which pass straight through the verb if no html-error has been raised, and > would then originates from the previous verb "$httpd:get". > > The thing is then to track up how these variables are "built" from > within code, listening to previous parts with methods similar to above, also > checking property content when used, etc. > > Fortunately, usually you don't have to track for long and at some point > the content of a variable is very explicit about the problem:) > > > - Alexandre Borgia > > | Traceback: > | > | #55:append, line 7:Type mismatch > | ... called from #32:generate_server_response_header, line 39 > | ... called from #32:get, line 108 > | (End of traceback) > | > | Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > > -- Disclaimer: These views and opinions and are entirely my own and do not reflect the views of anyone else. They are not the opinion of my employer; they are a personal statement only. ------------------------------------------- Traci Gardner http://www.tengrrl.com/ ------------------------------------------- Send Postal Mail to Traci Gardner P. O. Box 6783 Champaign, IL 61826-6783 ------------------------------------------- From jan.holmevik@uib.no Fri Jun 27 01:30:18 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 27 Jun 2003 01:30:18 %z (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779DF5BE4 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 01:30:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCEB1A1717 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 01:30:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18580-01-86 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 01:30:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54ACC38A8C for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 01:30:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from oppringt-203.ppp.uib.no [129.177.138.203] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19VmkM-000142-00; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 08:30:10 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 08:30:38 +0200 Subject: [encore] On a Personal Note From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: 7d34f2a9f2186313c36b2f8fbb8252c6 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: -5.9 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; * 3.1 -- BODY: Contains an ASCII-formatted form * -9.0 -- Message received from UIB X-archive-position: 864 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hey folks, Just wanted to let you know that I have now completed my dissertation! It consists of a manuscript entitled "TraceBack: MOO, Open Source, and the Humanities" and a CD-ROM with the complete enCore distribution. It was submitted to the University of Bergen this week, and if all goes well and the committee accepts it, I'll be looking at a defense in about six months from now. Thanks to everyone for help and support. This means that I'll be looking for a job soon, so if you know of anything that be of interest please let me know :) My vita is online at http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan/vita.html Cheers, Jan __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From SCHWELLER@bvu.edu Fri Jun 27 14:36:10 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:36:10 %z (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512A35C06 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:36:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B471A076E for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:36:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04129-01-66 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:36:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ngw.bvu.edu (ngw.bvu.edu [147.92.2.13]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E39838A91 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:36:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from BVU-Gateways-MTA by ngw.bvu.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:36:07 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.1 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:35:44 -0500 From: "Ken Schweller" To: Subject: [encore] MOO collaboration Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-archive-position: 865 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: SCHWELLER@bvu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: SCHWELLER@bvu.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Folks, I am teaching a first year undergraduate honors course on "Living in CyberSpace" this coming Fall. Anybody else teaching a Fall undergrad course involving MOO activities who would like to have their students meet with mine in a few shared online activities? Drop me a line! cheers, Ken Schweller wiz CollegeTown, SeminarMOO ====================================== Dr. Ken Schweller Professor of Computer Science and Psychology Dean, School of Science Buena Vista University Storm Lake, IA 50588 schweller@bvu.edu http://schweller.bvu.edu 712 749-2019 ====================================== From patterna@gvsu.edu Fri Jun 27 14:47:06 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:47:06 %z (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9155C06 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:47:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3BA1A0C06 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:47:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05180-01-56 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:47:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gvsu.edu (b4.gwise.gvsu.edu [148.61.5.36]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6115538A88 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:47:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from SMTPDOM-MTA by gvsu.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 15:47:04 -0400 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.2 Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 15:46:36 -0400 From: "Nancy Patterson" To: , Subject: [encore] moo download and installation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-archive-position: 866 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: patterna@gvsu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: patterna@gvsu.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hello. My university has give me a server so that I can develop an Encore MOO, but the powers that be loaded windows server 2000 rather than linux. I can install linux and install a partition, but before I do that, I'm wondering if anyone else here is running Encore on windows. And if you are, how do you intall? I have successfull (I think) decompressed the tar file, but I can't seem to simply install Encore the way I would install other programs. I am not at all experienced with a server, so I'm not sure I'm even asking this question in a way that is understandable. But if anyone can respond to my question, just remember that I'm a novice I'm not even sure I've downloaded Encore. When I go into My Computer and try to open the MOO folder, it simply reveals more folders, none of which ever want to open to something that I can install. Am I making any sense>> Thank you for any help you can give me. Nancy Nancy Patterson, PhD Grand Valley State University Red Cedar Writing Project Tech Liaison Editor "Tech Connect," Voices from the Middle Chair, Assembly on Computers in English patterna@gvsu.edu http://faculty.gvsu.edu/patterna From sands@uwm.edu Fri Jun 27 18:07:51 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:07:51 %z (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1995BDE for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:07:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44ED01A31E4 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:07:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19870-01-65 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:07:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com (ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.166.115]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E05138A97 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:07:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from PETER (CPE-65-31-128-198.wi.rr.com [65.31.128.198]) by ms-smtp-01.rdc-kc.rr.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h5RN7MrO019277 for ; Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:07:31 -0500 (CDT) From: "Peter Sands" To: "'enCore list'" Subject: [encore] Re: On a Personal Note Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:07:21 -0500 Message-ID: <001a01c33d00$e0452cb0$220110ac@PETER> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-archive-position: 867 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: sands@uwm.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: sands@uwm.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Jan, Congrats! ... best of luck ... pete sands __________ Peter Sands, UW-Milwaukee sands@uwm.edu || http://www.uwm.edu/~sands English Department || http://www.uwm.edu/Dept/English 414.229.4416 || 414.229.2643 (fax) Editor, H-UTOPIA || http://www2.h-net.msu.edu/~utopia/ -----Original Message----- From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu] On Behalf Of Jan Rune Holmevik Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 1:31 AM To: enCore list Subject: [encore] On a Personal Note Hey folks, Just wanted to let you know that I have now completed my dissertation! It consists of a manuscript entitled "TraceBack: MOO, Open Source, and the Humanities" and a CD-ROM with the complete enCore distribution. It was submitted to the University of Bergen this week, and if all goes well and the committee accepts it, I'll be looking at a defense in about six months from now. Thanks to everyone for help and support. This means that I'll be looking for a job soon, so if you know of anything that be of interest please let me know :) My vita is online at http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan/vita.html Cheers, Jan __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From Lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Sat Jun 28 06:41:49 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 28 Jun 2003 06:41:49 %z (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371A55BE5 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 06:41:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA661A1EA7 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 06:41:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 18735-01-41 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 06:41:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id F0F2E38A8C for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 06:41:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from irvin.accdvm.accd.edu [10.1.11.14] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 06:40:14 CDT Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20030628064431.00a11310@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Sender: Lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 06:46:10 -0700 To: jan.holmevik@uib.no, enCore list From: Lennie Irvin Subject: [encore] Re: On a Personal Note In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 868 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Congratulations Jan! ...........fireworks explode, champagne pops!!............. We who ride upon the shoulders of your work wish you well. Lennie At 08:30 AM 6/27/03 +0200, Jan Rune Holmevik wrote: >Hey folks, > >Just wanted to let you know that I have now completed my dissertation! It >consists of a manuscript entitled "TraceBack: MOO, Open Source, and the >Humanities" and a CD-ROM with the complete enCore distribution. It was >submitted to the University of Bergen this week, and if all goes well and >the committee accepts it, I'll be looking at a defense in about six months >from now. Thanks to everyone for help and support. > >This means that I'll be looking for a job soon, so if you know of anything >that be of interest please let me know :) > >My vita is online at http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan/vita.html > >Cheers, >Jan > >__Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ >University of Bergen >Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no >Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu >N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From kevijeps@telusplanet.net Sat Jun 28 12:24:47 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 28 Jun 2003 12:24:47 %z (CDT) Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791C35BDF for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 12:24:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C63E1A03BB for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 12:24:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01704-01-2 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 12:24:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from priv-edtnes53.telusplanet.net (defout.telus.net [199.185.220.240]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C5238A8E for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 12:24:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ishtar ([137.186.196.14]) by priv-edtnes53.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with SMTP id <20030628172443.RJZ8690.priv-edtnes53.telusplanet.net@ishtar>; Sat, 28 Jun 2003 11:24:43 -0600 From: "Kevin Jepson" To: , Subject: [encore] Re: moo download and installation Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 11:25:06 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-archive-position: 869 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: kevijeps@telusplanet.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: kevijeps@telusplanet.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Nancy You can run Encore on Win2k but you have to use a program called WinMoo from here http://www.stanford.edu/~cunkel/WinMOO/ This is a console based Win32 executable that works with EnCore. The web based functions need to be set up the same as linux but it depends on the setup of IIS on the server. I've played with both. I prefer the simplicity of running EnCore under Linux myself. Good luck. Ciao KJ -----Original Message----- From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu]On Behalf Of Nancy Patterson Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 1:47 PM To: SCHWELLER@bvu.edu; encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] moo download and installation Hello. My university has give me a server so that I can develop an Encore MOO, but the powers that be loaded windows server 2000 rather than linux. I can install linux and install a partition, but before I do that, I'm wondering if anyone else here is running Encore on windows. And if you are, how do you intall? I have successfull (I think) decompressed the tar file, but I can't seem to simply install Encore the way I would install other programs. I am not at all experienced with a server, so I'm not sure I'm even asking this question in a way that is understandable. But if anyone can respond to my question, just remember that I'm a novice I'm not even sure I've downloaded Encore. When I go into My Computer and try to open the MOO folder, it simply reveals more folders, none of which ever want to open to something that I can install. Am I making any sense>> Thank you for any help you can give me. Nancy Nancy Patterson, PhD Grand Valley State University Red Cedar Writing Project Tech Liaison Editor "Tech Connect," Voices from the Middle Chair, Assembly on Computers in English patterna@gvsu.edu http://faculty.gvsu.edu/patterna --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.491 / Virus Database: 290 - Release Date: 6/18/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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