From jan.holmevik@uib.no Wed Jan 1 11:41:39 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 01 Jan 2003 11:41:40 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05525BE1 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 11:41:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4841A17F7 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 01:55:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 24488-01-51 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 01:54:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34A4EA3417 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 01:54:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from c66.169.102.60.ftwrth.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.51]) [66.169.102.60] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18TdiH-000201-00; Wed, 01 Jan 2003 08:54:53 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 01:55:02 -0600 Subject: [encore] Happy New Year From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: 4a0629f13f239745e5456062c4beeb76 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 0 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; X-archive-position: 726 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Wishing you all a happy New Year! Cheers, Jan and Cynthia __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From aborgia@videotron.ca Wed Jan 1 12:05:51 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 01 Jan 2003 12:05:51 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88D6D5BE0 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2003 12:05:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C031A1536 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 15:12:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 19192-01-19 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 15:12:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from VL-MS-MR004.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A163FA3453 for ; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 15:12:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from alex ([24.200.69.169]) by VL-MS-MR004.sc1.videotron.ca (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 0.9 (built Jul 29 2002)) with SMTP id <0H8000AQC5M3E6@VL-MS-MR004.sc1.videotron.ca> for encore@utdallas.edu; Tue, 31 Dec 2002 16:13:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 16:12:02 -0500 From: Alexandre Borgia Subject: [encore] Re: accents & winmoo To: Encore Message-id: <000f01c2b111$436220e0$0200a8c0@alex> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <001d01c2b018$3053d7e0$2702d2c8@nome585wjwifvl> X-archive-position: 727 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: aborgia@videotron.ca Precedence: bulk Reply-to: aborgia@videotron.ca List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Greetings, From what I remember WinMOO is no longer maintained by Christopher Unkel, the original author. If it does not currently support accents, I'm affraid not much can be done except trying to compile your own "WinMOO" using the open-source code found at SourceForge :/ What I'd first do is try to contact the author or the official WinMOO mailing-list (addresses may be found at: http://www.stanford.edu/~cunkel/WinMOO/) - maybe some people are still involved in the project! - Alexandre Borgia From jan.holmevik@uib.no Sun Jan 5 22:21:07 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 05 Jan 2003 22:21:07 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFAD25BAD for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:21:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC65A1A0764 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:21:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 19417-01-70 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:21:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4717A3423 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2003 22:21:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from c66.169.102.60.ftwrth.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.51]) [66.169.102.60] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18VOl0-0001el-00; Mon, 06 Jan 2003 05:20:58 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 22:20:56 -0600 Subject: [encore] enCore version 3.3.2 Released From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: bfeb81e9335eded0d7b54ac177119b31 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 0 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; X-archive-position: 728 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore I the rush to get the security update 3.3.1 out the door I inadvertently overlooked a few properties that had to be changed in order to work under the new system. This is a maintenance release that addresses these issues. enCore MOO admins should install this patch as soon as possible in order to restore proper editing capabilities. The 3.3.2 update as well as the full distro can, as usual, be downloaded from the enCore web site at http://lingua.utdallas.edu/encore/ Enjoy, Cynthia and Jan __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From kevijeps@telusplanet.net Tue Jan 7 16:30:03 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 07 Jan 2003 16:30:03 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CB0F5BF8 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 16:30:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80871A5E79 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 16:09:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 06623-01-3 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 16:09:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from priv-edtnes04.telusplanet.net (outbound02.telus.net [199.185.220.221]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A157A5327 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 22:10:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from ishtar ([137.186.209.171]) by priv-edtnes04.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.17 201-253-122-126-117-20021021) with SMTP id <20030107041048.OHO27316.priv-edtnes04.telusplanet.net@ishtar> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 21:10:48 -0700 From: "Kevin jepson" To: "enCore list (E-mail)" Subject: [encore] Temporary player class? Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 21:10:52 -0700 Message-ID: <000201c2b602$c628fd00$0d0119ac@4kcon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal X-archive-position: 729 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: kevijeps@telusplanet.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: kevijeps@telusplanet.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Happy New Year folks! I'm trying to port the key elements of the RPGCore over to my enCore based MOO. The $player_class in the RPG core has many verbs and properties I would like to be able to have my normal players use when doing quests in a Role Playing Environment. They don't normally need them however. Rather than porting all the RPG functionality over to all my users permanently, by adding the verbs and properties to the $player_class, is it possible to create a temporary player class? Can you switch a player from one class to another without messing things up? Along similar lines does a feature object add properties as well as verbs to the user who has added it? Perhaps a RPG Feature object would work as a sort of "ticket" to the quest. Thanks for any help or suggestions. Ciao KJ =======================================================                                 Kevin Jepson R.E.T.                                        President                                                4K Consulting Inc.                                       " An't nanum hearm deth, doth hwaet                                        ye willath."                 PHONE: (403) 875-8372          Email: kevijeps@telusplanet.net ======================================================= From aborgia@videotron.ca Wed Jan 8 02:24:53 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 08 Jan 2003 02:24:53 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742A05BE3 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 02:24:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3295E1A146E for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 02:24:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 16257-01-7 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 02:24:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from VL-MS-MR001.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77A138A89 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 02:24:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from alex ([24.200.69.169]) by VL-MS-MR001.sc1.videotron.ca (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 0.9 (built Jul 29 2002)) with SMTP id <0H8D002D7ZCWFT@VL-MS-MR001.sc1.videotron.ca> for encore@utdallas.edu; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 03:24:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 03:24:01 -0500 From: Alexandre Borgia Subject: [encore] Re: Temporary player class? To: Encore Message-id: <000901c2b6ef$4c9afd60$0200a8c0@alex> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <000201c2b602$c628fd00$0d0119ac@4kcon.com> X-archive-position: 730 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: aborgia@videotron.ca Precedence: bulk Reply-to: aborgia@videotron.ca List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Greetings, One way to do it would be to create a fertile object from the "$programmer" class being your RPG-class. People can then @chparent themselve to it if they want RPG capabilities or back to standard player-class when they get tired of it (they would then loose all specific RPG customization - but all super-class settings should be kept intact). Such "custom" classes are actually used a lot (for instance, BayMOO has its own "RPG-Class" using this very same method). I'm though worried about what you mean by "temporary". If you mean to set and unset the RPG class automatically as needed (for example, when a player enters a specific location) I would strongly suggest against it. Although probably feasable, it would require a lot of hacking to archive RPG-related settings (since they would be lost when switching back to standard classes) and much more ressources and checks than needed. The RPG-class should remain permanently set once the player decides to become an "hero", and it should be up to the RPG-specific commands themselves to do a check to see if they can execute or not. For a simple example, you could create a new instance of the generic room which would be the "$RPG_room" and make a check at the beginning of each RPG-class verbs to see wether the player is in a room descending from the "$PRG_room" or not. If he is not, the verb simply returns (or "pass" execution to its super-class). It could even print back a nice little message like "Aye mate, pirates are at @go !" ... and if he is in the RPG-environment, the verb continues normally doing RPG-behavior. Also, what is interesting when making a standard room-parent is that you can create custom "enterfunc" and "exitfunc" so: - non-RPG players cannot access these rooms - RPG players can access these rooms, but only through specific areas - RPG-players can exit these rooms *only* if they teleport to non-RPG rooms or pass through standard exits (ie: cannot teleport from within the RPG-environment) - etc:) | Along similar lines does a feature object add properties as well as verbs to | the user who has added it? No, although there are always indirect ways to do it. For example, if you do a "clock" feature object that displays the current hour in a nice drawing and want the user to be able to see it in either "digital" or "analog" format (and save this preference), you could always keep a table into a list on the FO itself (this would be similar to: {{#player1, "analog"}, {#player2, "digital"}, {etc}} ... and fetch the custom setting from it. - Alexandre Borgia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin jepson" To: "enCore list (E-mail)" Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 11:10 PM Subject: [encore] Temporary player class? | Happy New Year folks! | | I'm trying to port the key elements of the RPGCore over to my enCore based | MOO. | The $player_class in the RPG core has many verbs and properties I would like | to be able to have my normal players use when doing quests in a Role Playing | Environment. They don't normally need them however. | | Rather than porting all the RPG functionality over to all my users | permanently, by adding the verbs and properties to the $player_class, is it | possible to create a temporary player class? | | Can you switch a player from one class to another without messing things up? | | Along similar lines does a feature object add properties as well as verbs to | the user who has added it? | | Perhaps a RPG Feature object would work as a sort of "ticket" to the quest. | | Thanks for any help or suggestions. | Ciao | KJ | ======================================================= | Kevin Jepson R.E.T. | President | 4K Consulting Inc. | | " An't nanum hearm deth, doth hwaet | ye willath." | | PHONE: (403) 875-8372 Email: | kevijeps@telusplanet.net | ======================================================= From jan.holmevik@uib.no Wed Jan 8 05:37:47 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 08 Jan 2003 05:37:47 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9605BBA for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 05:37:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1059D1A14B5 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 05:37:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 24634-01-78 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 05:37:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B2738A8D for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 05:37:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from c66.169.102.60.ftwrth.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.51]) [66.169.102.60] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18WEWD-0001AH-00; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 12:37:09 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 05:37:07 -0600 Subject: [encore] Safari and Xpress From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: aa88aab6db9e10246a712bfcb2d25cc4 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 0 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; X-archive-position: 731 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore The beta version of the new OS X browser, Safari, which was released yesterday does not currently work with Xpress. As far as I have been able to determine one of the problems with it is that it does not submit POST data properly and this prevents users from logging in. I'm going to investigate this one some more, but it looks like we'll have to wait until the next release to see if this issue has been fixed. Cheers, Jan __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Wed Jan 8 11:45:13 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 08 Jan 2003 11:45:13 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82AF45BAD for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:45:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DEFE1A1CBF for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:45:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 04679-01-98 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:45:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 635B438A8A for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:45:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from *unknown [10.11.14.204] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 11:45:08 CST X-Warning: ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU: Could not confirm that host [10.11.14.204] is GH208-LIRVIN.accdvm.accd.edu Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20030108113136.02945a80@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 11:37:00 -0600 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Lennie Irvin Subject: [encore] Wizardly cleaning question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 732 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi All, Happy New Year and that stuff. Perhaps some of you more experienced wizards can help me with a problem I am facing "keeping my MOO clean." The MOO generates quite a few automatic moomail messages to the wizard (me): these include many many many quota utils reports, Quota Log, and Password Change Log. Does anyone know how to delete these moo mail messages in a more time efficient way than one at a time? Is there a way to delete all messages from a moomail list? Thanks for the help! Lennie L. Lennie Irvin English Instructor, San Antonio College 1300 San Pedro Ave. San Antonio, TX 78212 Lirvin@accd.edu http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/lirvin.htm AlaMOO: http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/AlaMOO/index.htm From jan.holmevik@uib.no Wed Jan 8 11:51:55 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 08 Jan 2003 11:51:55 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F285BAD for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:51:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E1601A1D35 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:51:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 12758-01-8 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:51:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D018638A88 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:51:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from c66.169.102.60.ftwrth.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.51]) [66.169.102.60] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18WKMj-0001qx-00; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 18:51:45 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 11:51:43 -0600 Subject: [encore] Re: Wizardly cleaning question From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030108113136.02945a80@accdvm.accd.edu> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: e2b8b5df7e90b8294113435223f86324 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: -5 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; * -5.0 -- 'In-Reply-To' line found X-archive-position: 733 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore On 1/8/03 11:37 AM, "Lennie Irvin" wrote: > Hi All, > > Happy New Year and that stuff. > > Perhaps some of you more experienced wizards can help me with a problem I > am facing "keeping my MOO clean." The MOO generates quite a few automatic > moomail messages to the wizard (me): these include many many many quota > utils reports, Quota Log, and Password Change Log. > > Does anyone know how to delete these moo mail messages in a more time > efficient way than one at a time? Is there a way to delete all messages > from a moomail list? You bet... @rmm 1-$ from *list-name For example, to remove all messages from yourself type @rmm 1-$ from me Jan __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From cynthiah@utdallas.edu Wed Jan 8 12:14:24 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 08 Jan 2003 12:14:24 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.5]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F0A5BAD for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 12:14:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from [10.0.1.52] (c66.169.102.60.ftwrth.tx.charter.com [66.169.102.60]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67774388CB2; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 12:14:24 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 12:21:16 -0600 Subject: [encore] Re: Wizardly cleaning question From: Cynthia Haynes To: , encore Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030108113136.02945a80@accdvm.accd.edu> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 734 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: cynthiah@utdallas.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cynthiah@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Lennie, You can use the command-line method of deleting mail, rather than the Xpress Mail editor. Typing 'help mail' gives you a series of commands, among which is '@rmmail', which removes a subset of mail from a specified list. The help text for this command is: --------------------------------- Syntax: @rmmail [] [from *] Deletes the indicated messages from your MOO email collection. By default, your current message is deleted. See `help message-sequence' for the full list of possible arguments. You get the message numbers for use here by typing the '@mail' command. There is no confirmation for this action, so be careful. While it is true that @unrmmail will be able to bring back the messages deleted by the last @rmm, any messages deleted before then are really gone, i.e., irrecoverable. See `help @unrmmail' for more information. This command may be used on other mail recipients (children of $mail_recipient), but only ones to which you have write access (you either have to own it or be on good terms with whoever does...). --------------------------------- So, for example, if you wish to delete mail on the *quota-log list, and you have messages 1-50, you would type: @rmmail 1-50 from *quota-log There is a command to undo that if you delete something you didn't want to delete, i.e. @unrmmail...but it's wise to be cautious when deleting in this manner. This command may be used for subsets of the mail collection, and as mails are numbered, you can enter strings of mail and leave others intact, such as: @rmmail 3-7, 9-10, 15 from *quota-log Hope this helps. Best, Cynthia __Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and Writing___________________ University of Texas at Dallas cynthiah@utdallas.edu School of Arts & Humanities http://www.utdallas.edu/~cynthiah PO Box 830688-JO 31 http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000 Richardson, TX 75083-0688 (O)972-883-6340 (F)972-883-2989 From beuja@iinet.net.au Thu Jan 9 04:05:53 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 09 Jan 2003 04:05:53 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538425BDC for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 04:05:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66A51A0E0D for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 04:05:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 08945-02-55 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 04:05:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail.iinet.net.au (mail-01.iinet.net.au [203.59.3.33]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 59DCB38A8B for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 04:05:50 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 20557 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2003 10:05:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO goddess.iinet.net.au) (203.59.196.205) by mail.iinet.net.au with SMTP; 9 Jan 2003 10:05:38 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20030109180513.026e5258@mail.iinet.net.au> X-Sender: beuja@mail.iinet.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 18:05:22 +0800 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Scott DC Subject: [encore] enCoreXpress urls sent through MOOtcan Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 735 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: beuja@iinet.net.au Precedence: bulk Reply-to: beuja@iinet.net.au List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore I am seeking a list of objects that send urls to the MOOtcan client to load a webpage of the moo. I know just looking at objects triggers this, but what other object events are there? Cheers, Scott DC From jeffwhite@uaa.alaska.edu Sat Jan 11 12:45:41 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:45:42 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD255BDC for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:45:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A741B1A170A for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:45:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 11217-01-35 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:45:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from itsfw02.uaa.alaska.edu (Sentinel.uaa.alaska.edu [137.229.138.128]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1A638A8A for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 12:45:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from sentinel.uaa.alaska.edu by itsfw02.uaa.alaska.edu via smtpd (for ns0.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.1]) with ESMTP; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 09:48:21 -0900 Received: from [137.229.138.3] ([137.229.181.20]) by sentinel.uaa.alaska.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id H8KC4B00.1DN for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 09:45:47 -0900 Received: from [137.229.181.20] by [137.229.138.3] via smtpd (for sentinel.uaa.alaska.edu [137.229.138.128]) with ESMTP; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 09:48:20 -0900 From: "Jeff White" To: Subject: [encore] Slow motion MOO...? Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 09:45:31 -0900 Organization: University of Alaska Anchorage Message-ID: <000201c2b9a1$9e2fef50$14b5e589@Isocrates> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030109180513.026e5258@mail.iinet.net.au> X-archive-position: 736 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: afjcw@uaa.alaska.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: afjcw@uaa.alaska.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Over semester break, my moo shutdown (a power loss to our building). I rebooted the machine and ran Restart, and now the web elements are really slow to load. When I go to the Login screen URL, there's quite a delay before the screen appears. After logging in, there is another long delay before the window opens. However, once the MOO opens, I can navigate normally (quickly) via MOOtcan, but the web pages are slow to appear--and if I try to navigate via the web-side, then there is a delay on both sides (MOOtcan and web). I've done reboots of this machine and restarts of this MOO many times before, and had no problems. So I'm not sure what to look at for this problem. Any suggestions? I'm running this on a Linux (slackware 7.x) box and had successfully put on the most recent encore updates prior to leaving for the break. Thanks, jeffwhite From dilger@nwe.ufl.edu Sat Jan 11 13:48:21 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:48:21 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ABB95BAD for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:48:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ADC21A04F5 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:48:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 12003-01-26 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:48:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from clas.ufl.edu (minotaur.clas.ufl.edu [128.227.148.248]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA3B38A8B for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 13:48:17 -0600 (CST) X-Envelope-From: dilger@nwe.ufl.edu Received: from lovecraft.clas.ufl.edu (lovecraft.clas.ufl.edu [128.227.148.226]) by clas.ufl.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.10.2/clas1.15) with ESMTP id h0BJmIQ02979; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 14:48:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 14:48:18 -0500 (EST) From: Bradley Dilger X-X-Sender: dilger@lovecraft.clas.ufl.edu To: Jeff White Cc: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Slow motion MOO...? In-Reply-To: <000201c2b9a1$9e2fef50$14b5e589@Isocrates> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 737 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: dilger@nwe.ufl.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: dilger@nwe.ufl.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore > Over semester break, my moo shutdown (a power loss to our building). I > rebooted the machine and ran Restart, and now the web elements are > really slow to load. [...] Hi Jeff, Some thoughts... I would do some tests to see if you have a server load or networking problem. Perhaps your network card(s) are not running at the proper speed. Check the server load with 'top' or 'ps' and the networking with 'ifconfig' and 'netstat'. Did you customize your MOO or web server (httpd) configuration before the restart, without writing customization to a configuration file? If you have an old copy of the db, you could start that on a different port and see if you might have some db corruption or other problems. Also check with your networking folks and see if they changed anything after the power blip. It's also possible that problems with the network developed because of that blip (maybe a switch is misconfigured, etc). cbd. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Bradley Dilger http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~dilger/ From jan.holmevik@uib.no Sat Jan 11 20:02:06 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 11 Jan 2003 20:02:06 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BB55BAD for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 20:02:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1681A1BE0 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 20:02:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 05241-01-43 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 20:02:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4FBA38A89 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 20:01:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from c66.169.102.60.ftwrth.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.201]) [66.169.102.60] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18XXRk-0005d7-00; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 03:01:56 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 20:01:56 -0600 Subject: [encore] enCore 3.4 beta From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: 5ee4a6d8a78211418fc4a2710702af92 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 6 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; * 5.5 -- BODY: Uses a dotted-decimal IP address in URL X-archive-position: 738 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Well, as they say, the best way to move an open source project along is to scratch your own itch. While I was in the process of tinkering with the Xpress code so I could use Safari I also had to make some modification to the existing login procedures and the changes I've made should now allow more browsers to run Xpress. Back in the bad old days of Netscape and Microsoft both pushing their own standards, and the Mac platform lagging hopelessly behind, it was necessary for us to write login code for the specific browsers and platforms. The upshot of this was that we could only support Netscape and MSIE. Today, however, with the proliferation of Open Source based browsers and a recommitment to open standards things look much better. So one thing led to another and while I was at it I also rewrote the system so that it can now be used in conjunction with various pop-up blocking features. There are also a few other changes and fixes, but nothing major. As of today I have successfully tested the new version with the following browsers: OS X: MSIE 5.2, Netscape 7.1, Mozilla 1.3a, Safari 0.8.1 and OmniWeb 4.1.1. Chimera 0.6 will load up Xpress but I'm not getting any input in MOOtcan. The applet worked fine in Chimera 0.4 but is now broken. Opera will load only partially. OS 9.2: MSIE 5, MSIE 4.5, and Netscape 4.7 Since I don't have a PC I have not yet been able to test Windows and Linux browsers. If you would like to help test on these systems head on over to my development MOO at http://66.169.102.60:7000 and create yourself an account (Note, emailing of passwords has not been enabled, so write it down!) When you have tested your favorite browsers please send me an email with information about which operating systems and browser versions you have tested. Cheers, Jan __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From dilger@nwe.ufl.edu Sun Jan 12 21:04:03 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 12 Jan 2003 21:04:03 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D58C15BBA for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 21:04:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD2A1A034A for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 21:04:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 24850-01-74 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 21:04:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from clas.ufl.edu (minotaur.clas.ufl.edu [128.227.148.248]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E6238A8B for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 21:04:01 -0600 (CST) X-Envelope-From: dilger@nwe.ufl.edu Received: from lovecraft.clas.ufl.edu (lovecraft.clas.ufl.edu [128.227.148.226]) by clas.ufl.edu (8.11.6+Sun/8.10.2/clas1.15) with ESMTP id h0D33vQ15263; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:03:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:03:57 -0500 (EST) From: Bradley Dilger X-X-Sender: dilger@lovecraft.clas.ufl.edu To: Jan Rune Holmevik Cc: enCore list Subject: [encore] Re: enCore 3.4 beta In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 739 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: dilger@nwe.ufl.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: dilger@nwe.ufl.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Jan wrote (in part): > When you have tested your favorite browsers please send me an email > with information about which operating systems and browser versions > you have tested. I was able to log in using Red Hat Linux 7.2 (kernel 2.4.18-5), with KDE 3.0.3-0.7.2. Galeon 1.2.6 worked well. I could log in with Konqueror (same version as KDE), but there were problems with the right-hand window at times. It didn't synch cleanly with the Java applet chat window ("look" and other commands produced output sporadically). Netscape 4.7.6 and Mozilla 1.0.1 didn't work at all. But I confess that I haven't paid attention to those browsers since I discovered Galeon and Konqueror, so my versions may be out of date. I don't own any software from the Microsoft Fascism Trust (MSFT), so I can't help ya there. :) cbd. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Bradley Dilger http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~dilger/ From jan.holmevik@uib.no Sun Jan 12 22:55:33 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:55:33 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDBE65BBA for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:55:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38CC51A06C9 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:55:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 25817-01-53 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:55:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8956838A90 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:55:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from c66.169.102.60.ftwrth.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.201]) [66.169.102.60] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.05) id 18XwdH-0004Ss-00; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 05:55:31 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 22:55:33 -0600 Subject: [encore] enCore 3.4 beta From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: 7fb74a0ce3def6ee8d65db7359531d50 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: -5 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; * -5.0 -- 'In-Reply-To' line found X-archive-position: 740 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Thanks to those who came to test the beta core. I am taking it off-line again now. Cheers, Jan __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From jan.holmevik@uib.no Tue Jan 14 22:28:56 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:28:57 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD665BE6 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:28:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE521A2E3A for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:28:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 13831-01-53 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:28:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8236438A89 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:28:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from c66.169.102.60.ftwrth.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.201]) [66.169.102.60] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18YfAg-0005ov-00; Wed, 15 Jan 2003 05:28:58 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:28:56 -0600 Subject: [encore] EnCore Beta From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: 6a4f3e4ef6ca422dae2d52df17ae290c http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 0 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; X-archive-position: 741 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore I have installed the upcoming enCore version in Lingua for a beta test before I release it. If you would like to test it, please head on over to http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000/ I have pretty much tested all the Mac OS 9 and OS X browsers and the ones that work are: OS X 10.2: MSIE 5.2, Mozilla 1.2, Netscape 7, and Safari 0.8 OmniWeb, iCab, and Chimera all have problems that seems to be related to either their Javascript or Java implementations. Hopefully later releases of these will work without any Xpress modifications. Please note that OS X versions earlier than 10.2 does not support Java properly and should not be used. Get your Jagwyre today! OS 9.2: MSIE 4.5 and 5 Netscape 4.75 exhibits strange behavior when trying to load Xpress. I'm going to investigate this a bit further, but I'm not prepared to spend a lot of time on it since OS 9 users can also use IE which works. Since I do not have a Windows or a Linux/BSD machine I have not been able to test browsers on those platforms, so please report your findings so I can make adjustments if necessary. Cheers, Jan __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From jan.holmevik@uib.no Fri Jan 17 08:45:16 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:45:16 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB9C5BBA for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:45:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2091A3520 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:45:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 17511-01-55 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:45:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953A138A8D for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:45:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from c66.169.102.60.ftwrth.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.201]) [66.169.102.60] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZXkC-00013X-00; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:45:16 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 08:45:15 -0600 Subject: [encore] Calling Windows and Linux users From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: f8ae23251ddfd7dd38c58037ae8ab1b2 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 0 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; X-archive-position: 742 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore I need help testing the new enCore version. If you have a minute, please head on over to Lingua at http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000 and try logging in with your favorite browsers. If you don't have a character there you can either log in as guest, or email me for a password. If you encounter any problems please send me an email with information about which OS and browser versions you have tried. I have successfully tested the new installation with the most popular browsers under OS X and Mac OS 9.2. Thanks, Jan __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From jan.holmevik@uib.no Fri Jan 17 09:32:29 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:32:30 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB84F5BBA for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:32:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29C91A2579 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:32:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 24041-01-17 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:32:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B21E38A88 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:32:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from c66.169.102.60.ftwrth.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.201]) [66.169.102.60] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZYTs-0007Yc-00; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:32:28 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:32:26 -0600 Subject: [encore] Re: Calling Windows and Linux users From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: e5be756e97883c8462a3a610780226c5 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: -5 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; * -5.0 -- 'In-Reply-To' line found X-archive-position: 743 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Looks like it's back to the drawing board here. Thanks to Daniel Jung, Frank Roher, and Barbara McManus for testing. It appears that there are still issues with browsers under Windows and Linux. Does anyone have a VNC server that I could connect to in order to see these issues for myself? Right now everything works on my systems so trying to troubleshoot and solve the Win/Linux issues is like fumbling around in the dark. Thanks, Jan On 1/17/03 8:45 AM, "Jan Rune Holmevik" wrote: > I need help testing the new enCore version. If you have a minute, please > head on over to Lingua at http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000 and try logging in > with your favorite browsers. If you don't have a character there you can > either log in as guest, or email me for a password. > > If you encounter any problems please send me an email with information about > which OS and browser versions you have tried. I have successfully tested the > new installation with the most popular browsers under OS X and Mac OS 9.2. > > Thanks, > Jan > > __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ > University of Bergen jan@mac.com > Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no > Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu > N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan > > > > __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From jan.holmevik@uib.no Fri Jan 17 11:04:51 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:04:51 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446EA5BBA for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:04:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954F41A1D7E for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:04:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 03880-01-78 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:04:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A79138A8E for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:04:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from c66.169.102.60.ftwrth.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.201]) [66.169.102.60] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18ZZvE-0006g9-00; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:04:48 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:04:47 -0600 Subject: [encore] The straw that broke the camel's back From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: 936679086bc8300f4db696c7652ae8dd http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: -5 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; * -5.0 -- 'In-Reply-To' line found X-archive-position: 744 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore self.location.replace('/') It appears that this simple little Javascript call was what prevented some browsers from loading the Xpress client earlier today. After removing it I'm getting feedback now that these browsers loads Xpress without problems. Some people have reported that the client screen is smaller than it used to be. That is correct, I have changed the default from full screen to 900x600. Users can easily go back to full screen via the options. Also, I have now made the Xpress client window resizable. In some Windows browsers both the web and the chat areas will scale when you resize the window, in other browsers, including all Mac browsers that I have tested, the chat area does not scale. This is not a bug, but what appears to be a feature of either the OS or the OS specific browser implementations. Thanks to all those who have written with feedback. I'm still interested in hearing about problems with this beta, though. Cheers, Jan __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From cynthiah@utdallas.edu Fri Jan 17 12:08:16 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:08:16 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from smtp1.utdallas.edu (smtp1-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.5]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2075BBA for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:08:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from [10.0.1.202] (c66.169.102.60.ftwrth.tx.charter.com [66.169.102.60]) by smtp1.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4E0388C41 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:08:23 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:08:27 -0600 Subject: [encore] 10th anniversary? From: Cynthia Haynes To: encore Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200201150656.g0F6uqX20221@corn.cso.niu.edu> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 745 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: cynthiah@utdallas.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cynthiah@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Michael, I was thinking today about the fact that Lingua MOO will be 8 on the 25th of this month, and wondered about MediaMOO's 10th anniversary. Is it around this time? Will there be a party? I tried to log in just now at mediamoo.engl.niu.edu 7777 and I couldn't connect. Has the telnet address changed? Thanks! Cynthia __Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and Writing___________________ University of Texas at Dallas cynthiah@utdallas.edu School of Arts & Humanities http://www.utdallas.edu/~cynthiah PO Box 830688-JO 31 http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000 Richardson, TX 75083-0688 (O)972-883-6340 (F)972-883-2989 From jan.holmevik@uib.no Sat Jan 18 15:24:03 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:24:03 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66BA55BBA for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:24:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7CCD1A267E for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:24:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 12835-01-85 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:24:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF8238A8B for ; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:24:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from c66.169.102.60.ftwrth.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.201]) [66.169.102.60] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18a0Rg-00024T-00; Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:24:05 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 15:24:02 -0600 Subject: [encore] enCore 3.5 beta test results From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: 82333c3ea343609eb306df6534ae2e3f http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: -4 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; * -5.0 -- 'In-Reply-To' line found * 1.3 -- BODY: JavaScript code which can easily be executed X-archive-position: 746 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Greetings, The following browsers have been tested and confirmed to work with enCore 3.5 beta. Windows XP OS X 10.2 Mac OS 9.2 Linux ----------------- ----------------- --------------- --------------- MSIE 6 MSIE 5.2.2 MSIE 4.5 Mozilla 1.2 Netscape 4.75 Netscape 7 MSIE 5.0 Konqueror 3.0.5 Netscape 6.1 Mozilla 1.3a iCab 2.9 Galeon 1.2.6 Netscape 6.2 iCab 2.9 Netscape 4.7* Netscape 7.0 Safari 1.0 Beta Netscape 7.0* Phoenix 0.5 Opera 6.0** K-Melon 0.7 Chimera 0.6*** Mozilla 1.2.1 OmniWeb 4.1.1**** Neoplanet 5.2 Opera 6.05 Opera 7.0 * Will load Xpress but uses old JVM that doesn't wrap. ** Will load Xpress but produces double output in MOOtcan *** Will load Xpress but no input in MOOtcan **** Onload javscript bug prevents Xpress from loading. Workaround: Open blank client page in source view and click Redisplay. Note: OS X versions prior to 10.2 does not have proper java support and browsers running on these systems will probably not run Xpress properly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks to those who have helped test this new version. Special thanks go out to Daniel Jung who've been a real champion...his reward is that he can now run Xpress in his beloved Opera browser ;-) I'm going to run the 3.5 beta in Lingua for another week or so before I release it. If you would like to test a browser that is not mentioned here feel free to do so and report your findings to me. Lingua MOO can be found at http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000 Have a good weekend, Jan __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan ------ End of Forwarded Message From egoff@mindspring.com Sun Jan 19 10:23:10 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:23:10 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D4F5BAD for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:23:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B311A019D for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:23:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 24039-01-70 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:23:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (mclean.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.57]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A3138A88 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 10:23:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from user-uivenng.dsl.mindspring.com ([165.247.94.240] helo=master) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18aIDy-0000zY-00; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:23:11 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20030119111953.00dc29e8@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: egoff@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:19:53 -0500 To: jan.holmevik@uib.no, enCore list From: Edward Goff Subject: [encore] Re: Calling Windows and Linux users In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-archive-position: 747 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: egoff@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: egoff@mindspring.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Windows 2000 SP2 (I still say 3 is evil) IE 6.0.2600.0000 SP1 Though I must admit. I HATE dialup :) Espically on bad phone lines. Looks good Jan At 08:45 AM 1/17/2003 -0600, Jan Rune Holmevik wrote: >I need help testing the new enCore version. If you have a minute, please >head on over to Lingua at http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000 and try logging in >with your favorite browsers. If you don't have a character there you can >either log in as guest, or email me for a password. > >If you encounter any problems please send me an email with information about >which OS and browser versions you have tried. I have successfully tested the >new installation with the most popular browsers under OS X and Mac OS 9.2. > >Thanks, >Jan > >__Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ >University of Bergen jan@mac.com >Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no >Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu >N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan > > > > From spector@zeitgeist.com Sun Jan 19 11:00:54 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:00:54 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 376535BAD for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:00:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C771A0B69 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:00:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 19061-02-89 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:00:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from charon.ny.zeitgeist.com (ool-182f3b5b.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.59.91]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08FF838A8C for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 11:00:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from wintermute.ny.zeitgeist.com (IDENT:Ph6T8lRPNB58Kky7EgyHoNlNBsxNKtCZ@wintermute.ny.zeitgeist.com [192.124.49.10]) by charon.ny.zeitgeist.com (8.12.5/8.10.0) with ESMTP id h0JH0w1G001917 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:00:58 -0500 Received: from zeitgeist.com (dot.ny.zeitgeist.com [192.124.49.25]) by wintermute.ny.zeitgeist.com (8.11.6/8.7.2) with ESMTP id h0JH0oU26772 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:00:50 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 12:00:50 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-263941046 Subject: [encore] Connectivity options and MOO development From: David HM Spector To: enCore list Message-Id: <8FFB782F-2BCF-11D7-8A6B-000393853BFC@zeitgeist.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-archive-position: 748 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: spector@zeitgeist.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: spector@zeitgeist.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore --Apple-Mail-2-263941046 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed After being out of the MOO scene for a while (I hate when real-life intrudes...) I'm restarting a lot of work I did a number of years ago on MOO connectivity and interaction with external systems. In looking around at what I thought would be the usual sources (the MOOring, some well-known MOOs), I was surprised how little activity there seemed to be. (I guest'ed into several MOOs that have been run attended for ~3 years with no logins and a couple of very lonely 'bots who came up to me and wanted to talk.. [very creepy in an existential kind of way!] ) After a lot of Google searching I stumbled across a large and deep amount of work being some on the Wiki, XML, SOAP and IRC fronts along with other network tools. None of these sites (see below) seem to show up on any of the semi-active MOO mailing lists. Has anyone cataloged the various projects going on out there..? Has anyone integrated any of these tools into an enCode DB..? I'd love to hear of anyone's experiences integrating more network technologies into MOOs. Here are some of the things I've found: MOO IRC http://ahynes1.homeip.net:8000/moo/mooirc.htm; Connectivty Projects: http://ahynes1.homeip.net:8000/moo/connectivity.htm SOAP http://www.o-r-g.org/~azaroth/moosoap XML utilities http://ahynes1.homeip.net:8000/moo/jabber/xml_utils.txt SUNNET Networking http://sunray.dyndns.org/rupert/sunnet The folks at MOOCanada seem to be integrating lots of interesting client functionality into Mozilla (and they seem to have a very active MOO community to boot...) MOOCanada: http://www.moo.ca/clients regards, David ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - David HM Spector spector@zeitgeist.com software architecture - network/security consultation technical due diligence - technology planning/analysis Office:(631)261-5013 Cell: (631)827-3132 --Apple-Mail-2-263941046 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII After being out of the MOO scene for a while (I hate when real-life intrudes...) I'm restarting a lot of work I did a number of years ago on MOO connectivity and interaction with external systems. In looking around at what I thought would be the usual sources (the MOOring, some well-known MOOs), I was surprised how little activity there seemed to be. (I guest'ed into several MOOs that have been run attended for ~3 years with no logins and a couple of very lonely 'bots who came up to me and wanted to talk.. [very creepy in an existential kind of way!] ) After a lot of Google searching I stumbled across a large and deep amount of work being some on the Wiki, XML, SOAP and IRC fronts along with other network tools. None of these sites (see below) seem to show up on any of the semi-active MOO mailing lists. Has anyone cataloged the various projects going on out there..? Has anyone integrated any of these tools into an enCode DB..? I'd love to hear of anyone's experiences integrating more network technologies into MOOs. Here are some of the things I've found: MOO IRC http://ahynes1.homeip.net:8000/moo/mooirc.htm; Connectivty Projects: http://ahynes1.homeip.net:8000/moo/connectivity.htm SOAP http://www.o-r-g.org/~azaroth/moosoap XML utilities http://ahynes1.homeip.net:8000/moo/jabber/xml_utils.txt SUNNET Networking http://sunray.dyndns.org/rupert/sunnet The folks at MOOCanada seem to be integrating lots of interesting client functionality into Mozilla (and they seem to have a very active MOO community to boot...) MOOCanada: http://www.moo.ca/clients regards, David ------------------------------------------------------------------------- David HM Spector spector@zeitgeist.com software architecture - network/security consultation technical due diligence - technology planning/analysis Office:(631)261-5013 Cell: (631)827-3132 --Apple-Mail-2-263941046-- From KEustace@csu.edu.au Mon Jan 20 00:16:28 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:16:28 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E76915BAD for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:16:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F671A03F8 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:16:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 09711-01-16 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:16:30 -0600 (CST) Received: from csunw.riv.csu.edu.au (csunw.riv.csu.edu.au [137.166.76.1]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F3338A89 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 00:16:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from XCWW01.CSUMain.csu.edu.au (xcww01.riv.csu.edu.au [137.166.216.22]) by csunw.riv.csu.edu.au (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0K6GMug025578 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:16:23 +1100 (EST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.5762.3 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [encore] Re: Connectivity options and MOO development Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 17:16:32 +1100 Message-ID: <211F78EFD1D870409CC3E4158F4881DA04D6FA17@XCWW01.CSUMain.csu.edu.au> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [encore] Connectivity options and MOO development Thread-Index: AcK/3HKuNwJkykvNShqlM9etfp1GWQAa0PZj From: "Eustace, Ken" To: , "enCore list" Cc: "Eustace, Ken" , "Fellows, Geoff" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.21 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-archive-position: 749 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: KEustace@csu.edu.au Precedence: bulk Reply-to: KEustace@csu.edu.au List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore David, This looks exciting to follow up, as here at CSU (downunder) we are = trying to get more IT students working in this area, for honours, = Masters and PhD.=20 The dialogue generated by Jan and others is good for exposing the = process of sftware development. MOO, Python and ZOPE good for teaching = programming and software design (my bias) , then let 'em loose with = Java. We are looking at ways of integrating MOO systems like Xpress with open = source environments like Mozilla (mozilla.org) and ZOPE products = (zope.org). The latter crosses the great dividing range between the Java = and Python worlds. The XML, SOAP and IRC all add more flavour. Recently I began thinking about such integrated MOO systems on device = networks , with Petabyte storage using multiple device access to the = same distributed objects and applications. That way I can join a MOO = session via my bluetooth enabled PalmOS PDA. MOO is resilient and won't be pushed aside in the rush for bandwidth = gold. To think that it is about the same age as the Web (maybe older, just). I = always think that MOO-driven Web development was the way (pity that Tim = BL & friends and Pavel C & friends, were not on the same team). Hinge = the development of Object Internet services on communications and the = user interface, rather than accessing information. Access the people, = and the information follows. Not a big change in foundations or = development, but a rather big change in perspective.=20 -Ken Eustace -----Original Message----- From: David HM Spector [mailto:spector@zeitgeist.com] Sent: Mon 20/01/2003 4:00 AM To: enCore list Cc:=09 Subject: [encore] Connectivity options and MOO development After being out of the MOO scene for a while (I hate when real-life =20 intrudes...) I'm restarting a lot of work I did a number of years ago =20 on MOO connectivity and interaction with external systems. In looking around at what I thought would be the usual sources (the =20 MOOring, some well-known MOOs), I was surprised how little activity =20 there seemed to be. (I guest'ed into several MOOs that have been run =20 attended for ~3 years with no logins and a couple of very lonely 'bots =20 who came up to me and wanted to talk.. [very creepy in an existential =20 kind of way!] ) After a lot of Google searching I stumbled across a large and deep =20 amount of work being some on the Wiki, XML, SOAP and IRC fronts along =20 with other network tools. None of these sites (see below) seem to show = up on any of the semi-active MOO mailing lists. Has anyone cataloged the various projects going on out there..? Has =20 anyone integrated any of these tools into an enCode DB..? I'd love to hear of anyone's experiences integrating more network =20 technologies into MOOs. Here are some of the things I've found: MOO IRC http://ahynes1.homeip.net:8000/moo/mooirc.htm; Connectivty =20 Projects: http://ahynes1.homeip.net:8000/moo/connectivity.htm SOAP http://www.o-r-g.org/~azaroth/moosoap XML utilities http://ahynes1.homeip.net:8000/moo/jabber/xml_utils.txt SUNNET Networking http://sunray.dyndns.org/rupert/sunnet The folks at MOOCanada seem to be integrating lots of interesting =20 client functionality into Mozilla (and they seem to have a very active MOO community to boot...) MOOCanada: http://www.moo.ca/clients regards, David ------------------------------------------------------------------------ = - David HM Spector spector@zeitgeist.com =09 software architecture - network/security consultation technical due diligence - technology planning/analysis Office:(631)261-5013 Cell: (631)827-3132 From spector@zeitgeist.com Mon Jan 20 23:10:04 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 20 Jan 2003 23:10:04 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225E65BAD for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 23:10:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD6021A03B9 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 23:10:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 06202-01-48 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 23:10:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from charon.ny.zeitgeist.com (ool-182f3b5b.dyn.optonline.net [24.47.59.91]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA5338A8C for ; Mon, 20 Jan 2003 23:10:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from wintermute.ny.zeitgeist.com (IDENT:0ApYmxqGONHRo6qfZc4FQZ8ShfO7EXf8@wintermute.ny.zeitgeist.com [192.124.49.10]) by charon.ny.zeitgeist.com (8.12.5/8.10.0) with ESMTP id h0L5AG1G007103 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 00:10:16 -0500 Received: from zeitgeist.com (dot.ny.zeitgeist.com [192.124.49.25]) by wintermute.ny.zeitgeist.com (8.11.6/8.7.2) with ESMTP id h0L5AGU05628 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 00:10:16 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 00:10:15 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: [encore] Differneces between enCore's web service(s) and Alohas, SUNnet, etc..? From: David HM Spector To: "enCore list" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) X-archive-position: 750 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: spector@zeitgeist.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: spector@zeitgeist.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Jan, This is probably a question best answered by you: what's the difference between the web services available via enCore and those available in the Aloha package? Are the two mutually exclusive in the same MOO..? Also, what are the advantages of using SUNNET to connect MOOs over a generic TCP connection (I seem to recall seeing LinguaMOO in many fo teh SUNNET maps)... regards, David From rbowman@bridgewater.edu Tue Jan 21 06:03:19 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 21 Jan 2003 06:03:20 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8195BAD for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 06:03:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752041A19EB for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 06:03:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 08644-01-91 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 06:03:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from Isis.bridgewater.edu (Isis.bridgewater.edu [147.138.10.100]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C56C38A8B for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 06:03:20 -0600 (CST) Received: from testing.bridgewater.edu (Dial13.bridgewater.edu [147.138.110.213]) by Isis.bridgewater.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0LC3TND002813 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 07:03:30 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.2.0.9.0.20030121065857.02247040@mail.bridgewater.edu> X-Sender: rbowman@mail.bridgewater.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 07:03:48 -0500 To: encore From: Richard L Bowman Subject: [encore] Placing Generic Objects Where They Belong In-Reply-To: References: <200201150656.g0F6uqX20221@corn.cso.niu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 751 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: rbowman@Bridgewater.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-to: rbowman@Bridgewater.EDU List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Yesterday we upgraded our MOO to enCore version 3.3.2 and so I went looking around to see that things were OK. In one room I discovered the Generic Assignment object. I know this is part of VASE, and I don't believe it should just show up lying around the MOO. Where does it belong and how do I get it there. I know that I can pick it up, but then it is on my person, and that does not seem to be a good solution. Richard L. Bowman Bridgewater College, Bridgewater, VA, USA BC-MOO: http://www.bridgewater.edu:7000/ From jan.holmevik@uib.no Tue Jan 21 10:59:35 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:59:36 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967DF5BAD for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:59:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791881A14BF for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:59:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 17437-01-6 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:59:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D53838A92 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:59:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from c66.169.102.60.ftwrth.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.201]) [66.169.102.60] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18b1kW-0007cW-00; Tue, 21 Jan 2003 17:59:44 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 10:59:42 -0600 Subject: [encore] Re: Placing Generic Objects Where They Belong From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20030121065857.02247040@mail.bridgewater.edu> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: d7059ab4fd7ee4a43225c343e62ef665 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: -5 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; * -5.0 -- 'In-Reply-To' line found X-archive-position: 752 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore The box of educational tools is one place you can keep objects like this. You can also create other storage containers for this purpose. Like you say, you can pick up the object and drop it into the container, or you can use the @move command like this (#120 is the Box of edu tools, and #159 is the generic assignment in the vanilla encore, object numbers may be different in your MOO) @move #159 to #120 For the @move command to work both objects much be unlocked. Cheers, Jan On 1/21/03 6:03 AM, "Richard L Bowman" wrote: > Yesterday we upgraded our MOO to enCore version 3.3.2 and so I went looking > around to see that things were OK. In one room I discovered the Generic > Assignment object. I know this is part of VASE, and I don't believe it > should just show up lying around the MOO. Where does it belong and how do I > get it there. > > I know that I can pick it up, but then it is on my person, and that does > not seem to be a good solution. > > Richard L. Bowman > Bridgewater College, Bridgewater, VA, USA > BC-MOO: http://www.bridgewater.edu:7000/ > > > __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From jan.holmevik@uib.no Sat Jan 25 13:07:40 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:07:40 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15605BDE for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:07:39 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E29E71A21A4 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:07:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 10110-01-72 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:07:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D31838A8E for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:07:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from c66.169.102.60.ftwrth.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.201]) [66.169.102.60] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18cVeR-0000gp-00; Sat, 25 Jan 2003 20:07:35 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:07:33 -0600 Subject: [encore] enCore 3.3.3 Released From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: bde7938424512e41aad37965c58bbb6a http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: 0 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; X-archive-position: 753 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore enCore version 3.3.3 has been released and is available for download from http://lingua.utdallas.edu/encore/ This is a maintenance release that addresses two security issues with enCore 3-based MOOs. See change log below. You are encouraged to install this patch as soon as possible. Thanks to Scott Carmichael for contributions of code to this patch. This update is *NOT* the one that I have reported on earlier this month. As I continued to work on that patch I eventually decided to make some more fundamental changes that will require some time to complete. The most important of these changes is that I am now transitioning the whole Xpress layer to XHTML. In enCore version 3 I introduced style sheets for layout control, and going to XHTML now represents the next step in the move toward XML. Because of the rather substantial changes involved in this transition, the next version of enCore will probably be released as 4.0. It is too early to tell when the release date will be, but I can say that it won't be for quite some time. PS! Today, January 25th marks the 8th anniversary of Lingua MOO and that means it has been almost 9 years since we first logged into a MOO. If someone at the time had told us that we would still be doing this nine years later we would probably have called them crazy...well it looks like we're the crazy ones now, so here's to the crazy ones! :-) Cheers, Jan and Cynthia enCore 3.3.3 Change log - Added referrer check to $httpd:get. Clients are now only allowed to send url encoded data to the MOO if the referring page originated from the same MOO. - $player:notify now scans and strips URL encoded data from URLs received via the telnet applet. This prevents malicious users from sending unauthorized code to the MOO via MOOtcan. Thanks to Scott Carmichael for these contributions. __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From karper@expert.ics.purdue.edu Wed Jan 29 20:36:50 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:36:51 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30AE5BBA for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:36:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D351A2A74 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:36:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 24154-01-12 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:36:58 -0600 (CST) Received: from expert.ics.purdue.edu (expert.ics.purdue.edu [128.210.10.11]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDD038A8B for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 20:36:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (karper@localhost) by expert.ics.purdue.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00066; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:37:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 21:37:18 -0500 (EST) From: Erin E Karper To: encore@utdallas.edu Cc: David Blakesley Subject: [encore] Pronoun Guide (Encore 3) released In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 754 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: karper@expert.ics.purdue.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: karper@expert.ics.purdue.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Several years ago, I wrote a guide to Pronoun MOO, which later formed the basis for the guide released through the Encore Open Source Documentation project. I'm ashamed to say that it's taken me this long, but I've finally updated the guide to contain information (and screen shots) about Encore 3. (This, of course, means that Jan will release 4 tomorrow. :) You can see the guide at http://pw.english.purdue.edu/technologies/MOO/guide/index.html -- a printer friendly version of the entire guide is available at http://pw.english.purdue.edu/technologies/MOO/guide/wholeguideprint.html (HTML) and http://pw.english.purdue.edu/technologies/MOO/guide/wholeguideprint.pdf (Adobe PDF). If you'd like to download a Zip file of the entire guide (including all the images and the Dreamweaver template file I used for generating the pages), it's at http://pw.english.purdue.edu/technologies/MOO/guide/newmooguide.zip The zip file would probably work best if you want to make a version for use in your own MOO. I haven't managed to create the "generic" version for release through the Open Source Doc project, so if some kind soul would like to do that, I would be eternally grateful. If no one wants to volunteer, I will get around to it as soon as I can. Until then, people are free to download and adapt the existing version. This version uses material from the original guide writen by Lennie Irvin and myself, but also incorporates material from Tess Tavormina's AcadeMOO guide (with her kind permission). Many thanks to Lennie and Tess for giving me so much to work with. Major changes include new screen shots, updated explanations of how to use the object editor, a page on using MOO mail and making MOO mailing lists, and other minor additions and updates. If you have material that you think should be in the guide, or suggestions/corrections, please let me know and I'd be glad to add it. In addition to Lennie and Tess, I'd like to thank the Professional Writing Program at Purdue University, which has paid me to write both the original and the revision (and is hosting Pronoun and the web site that hosts the documentation), and Dr. David Blakesley, the PW program director, who's been incredibly supportive of my efforts. And, as always, Jan and Cynthia, who make such a great core to work with. Erin Karper From jan.holmevik@uib.no Wed Jan 29 22:25:09 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:25:09 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5085BBA for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:25:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1182B1A00A3 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:25:18 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 03029-01-93 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:25:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79AB638A88 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:25:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from c66.169.102.60.ftwrth.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.201]) [66.169.102.60] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 18e6GP-00023S-00; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 05:25:21 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:25:21 -0600 Subject: [encore] Re: Pronoun Guide (Encore 3) released From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: 93df8d1cc4c5d03cc07513b0ed052d6f http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: -5 hits, 8.0 required X-UiB-SpamReport: spamassassin found; * -5.0 -- 'In-Reply-To' line found X-archive-position: 755 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Excellent work Erin, Lennie, Tess and others. The guide looks great and it will surely be a valuable resource. In fact, I would love to incorporate it into the enCore 4 distro complete with with direct access buttons from Xpress in the same way that Pavel's MOO manual is incorporated now. If you're interested, I we would need to get a generic version that can be run locally from each encore site. This means that all links should be relative. Let me know if we can do this asap. Cheers, Jan On 1/29/03 8:37 PM, "Erin E Karper" wrote: > Several years ago, I wrote a guide to Pronoun MOO, which later formed the > basis for the guide released through the Encore Open Source Documentation > project. I'm ashamed to say that it's taken me this long, but I've finally > updated the guide to contain information (and screen shots) about Encore > 3. (This, of course, means that Jan will release 4 tomorrow. :) > > You can see the guide at > http://pw.english.purdue.edu/technologies/MOO/guide/index.html -- a > printer friendly version of the entire guide is available at > http://pw.english.purdue.edu/technologies/MOO/guide/wholeguideprint.html > (HTML) and > http://pw.english.purdue.edu/technologies/MOO/guide/wholeguideprint.pdf > (Adobe PDF). If you'd like to download a Zip file of the entire guide > (including all the images and the Dreamweaver template file I used for > generating the pages), it's at > http://pw.english.purdue.edu/technologies/MOO/guide/newmooguide.zip > The zip file would probably work best if you want to make a version for > use in your own MOO. > > I haven't managed to create the "generic" version for release through the > Open Source Doc project, so if some kind soul would like to do that, I > would be eternally grateful. If no one wants to volunteer, I will get > around to it as soon as I can. Until then, people are free to download and > adapt the existing version. > > This version uses material from the original guide writen by Lennie Irvin > and myself, but also incorporates material from Tess Tavormina's AcadeMOO > guide (with her kind permission). Many thanks to Lennie and Tess for > giving me so much to work with. > > Major changes include new screen shots, updated explanations of how to use > the object editor, a page on using MOO mail and making MOO mailing lists, > and other minor additions and updates. If you have material that you think > should be in the guide, or suggestions/corrections, please let me know and > I'd be glad to add it. > > In addition to Lennie and Tess, I'd like to thank the Professional Writing > Program at Purdue University, which has paid me to write both the original > and the revision (and is hosting Pronoun and the web site that hosts the > documentation), and Dr. David Blakesley, the PW program director, who's > been incredibly supportive of my efforts. And, as always, Jan and Cynthia, > who make such a great core to work with. > > Erin Karper > > > __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From karper@expert.ics.purdue.edu Wed Jan 29 22:36:45 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:36:45 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6941F5BBA for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:36:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EAD21A26D5 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:36:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 04881-01-18 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:36:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from expert.ics.purdue.edu (expert.ics.purdue.edu [128.210.10.11]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BD7538A8A for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 22:36:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (karper@localhost) by expert.ics.purdue.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA25549 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 23:37:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 23:37:14 -0500 (EST) From: Erin E Karper Cc: enCore list Subject: [encore] Re: Pronoun Guide (Encore 3) released In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 756 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: karper@expert.ics.purdue.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: karper@expert.ics.purdue.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Jan Rune Holmevik wrote: > Excellent work Erin, Lennie, Tess and others. The guide looks great and it > will surely be a valuable resource. In fact, I would love to incorporate it > into the enCore 4 distro complete with with direct access buttons from > Xpress in the same way that Pavel's MOO manual is incorporated now. If > you're interested, I we would need to get a generic version that can be run > locally from each encore site. This means that all links should be relative. > All the links should be relative (and the zip file contains all the images, including the menu bar), but the guide does need "genericizing" to take out some of the Purdue-specific references. I can probably do that sometime in the next few weeks (assuming that the C&W proposal server doesn't decide to do a paperweight impression again). From lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Thu Jan 30 08:40:22 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 08:40:22 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573E55BAD for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 08:40:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86FBC1A33C3 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 08:40:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 29512-01-84 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 08:40:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id D601F38A91 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 08:40:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from GH208-LIRVIN.accdvm.accd.edu [10.11.14.204] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 08:40:42 CST Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20030130082951.00ab91a8@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 08:32:11 -0600 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Lennie Irvin Subject: [encore] Re: Pronoun Guide (Encore 3) released In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 757 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Bravo Erin! I've been feeling guilty about not getting the 3.0 version of the guide done ever since last summer. Thank you thank you. I volunteer to come up with a generic version for adaptation. Give me a couple of weeks. Lennie At 09:37 PM 1/29/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Several years ago, I wrote a guide to Pronoun MOO, which later formed the >basis for the guide released through the Encore Open Source Documentation >project. I'm ashamed to say that it's taken me this long, but I've finally >updated the guide to contain information (and screen shots) about Encore >3. (This, of course, means that Jan will release 4 tomorrow. :) > >You can see the guide at >http://pw.english.purdue.edu/technologies/MOO/guide/index.html -- a >printer friendly version of the entire guide is available at >http://pw.english.purdue.edu/technologies/MOO/guide/wholeguideprint.html >(HTML) and >http://pw.english.purdue.edu/technologies/MOO/guide/wholeguideprint.pdf >(Adobe PDF). If you'd like to download a Zip file of the entire guide >(including all the images and the Dreamweaver template file I used for >generating the pages), it's at >http://pw.english.purdue.edu/technologies/MOO/guide/newmooguide.zip >The zip file would probably work best if you want to make a version for >use in your own MOO. > >I haven't managed to create the "generic" version for release through the >Open Source Doc project, so if some kind soul would like to do that, I >would be eternally grateful. If no one wants to volunteer, I will get >around to it as soon as I can. Until then, people are free to download and >adapt the existing version. > >This version uses material from the original guide writen by Lennie Irvin >and myself, but also incorporates material from Tess Tavormina's AcadeMOO >guide (with her kind permission). Many thanks to Lennie and Tess for >giving me so much to work with. > >Major changes include new screen shots, updated explanations of how to use >the object editor, a page on using MOO mail and making MOO mailing lists, >and other minor additions and updates. If you have material that you think >should be in the guide, or suggestions/corrections, please let me know and >I'd be glad to add it. > >In addition to Lennie and Tess, I'd like to thank the Professional Writing >Program at Purdue University, which has paid me to write both the original >and the revision (and is hosting Pronoun and the web site that hosts the >documentation), and Dr. David Blakesley, the PW program director, who's >been incredibly supportive of my efforts. And, as always, Jan and Cynthia, >who make such a great core to work with. > >Erin Karper L. Lennie Irvin English Instructor, San Antonio College 1300 San Pedro Ave. San Antonio, TX 78212 Lirvin@accd.edu http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/lirvin.htm AlaMOO: http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/AlaMOO/index.htm From tanga@tanga.org Thu Jan 30 12:04:06 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:04:06 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1E55BDE for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:04:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 974601A0E3C for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:04:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 25724-01-48 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:04:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from leo.leonine.com (leo.leonine.com [65.121.9.1]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE0A38A91 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:04:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from leonine.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leo.leonine.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h0UHxLs14095 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:59:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from 56.0.128.18 (SquirrelMail authenticated user jwilson) by webmail.leonine.com with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:59:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <28512.56.0.128.18.1043949561.squirrel@webmail.leonine.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 11:59:21 -0600 (CST) Subject: [encore] Losing focus on MOOtcan From: "Joel Wilson" To: X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.10) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 758 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: tanga@tanga.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: tanga@tanga.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore First of all, hello everyone. I'm new to this list, but I've been messing around with enCore for a few months now (when my schedule permitted). I'm really impressed with the project and am looking forward to see how it is used by the educational community. I'm more interested in the entertainment and community aspects of it myself, but obviously the uses for it are varied. Well...there's been a bug where when you click on a link or type the name of the exit in MOOtcan, focus is lost in MOOtcan. I've figured out a fix for this, but only for Mozilla-based browsers so far. The fix is a piece of JavaScript added to the end of a page and a modification to MOOtcan. I didn't see any instructions on the website, though, for how to submit changes to the community. Anyone have any insight on this? -Joel From lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Fri Jan 31 12:26:39 2003 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:26:39 -0600 Return-Path: X-Original-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from null-pmn.utdallas.edu (null-pmn.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3FD25BBA for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:26:38 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by null-pmn.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562141A0916 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:26:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from mx0.utdallas.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ns0 [127.0.0.1:10024]) (amavisd-new) with LMTP id 04159-01-78 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:26:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by mx0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 872FD38A92 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:26:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from GH208-LIRVIN.accdvm.accd.edu [10.11.14.204] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:27:00 CST Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20030131121717.00b13ea8@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:18:27 -0600 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Lennie Irvin Subject: [encore] 1stMondays@AlaMOO--2/3 on Peer Response Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" X-archive-position: 759 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore 1stMondays@AlaMOO begins 2003 with a session next Monday February 3rd from 12:00 -1:00 PM CST on the subject of peer response using computers, both in a computer classroom and distance education setting. 

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Session Description:
For many teachers of writing, peer response is at the heart of collaborative learning and the creation of a workshop environment in their classes.  What are the differences between peer response in a face-to-face situation vs. peer response through computers?  What are the similarities?  What is lost and what is gained?  In what ways does peer response fit theoretically with a computer learning environment?

The session will also discuss orchestrating peer response activity with various technological tools.  How do different tools handle the three key components of peer response: student drafts, teacher-directed peer response prompts and explanations, and completed peer responses?

Rather than a presentation, this session promises to be an open discussion of the topics and issues related to using computers for peer response. 
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Please join the discussion next Monday February 3rd from 12-1:00 PM CST in AlaMOO's Conference Center
http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/AlaMOO/index.htm

I encourage you to open and print this special help page for attending a session in AlaMOO:
http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/MOOstuff/AlaMOOconfpacket.htm

I hope to see you Monday!

Lennie Irvin

L. Lennie Irvin
English Instructor, San Antonio College
1300 San Pedro Ave.
San Antonio, TX 78212
Lirvin@accd.edu
http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/lirvin.htm

AlaMOO: http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/AlaMOO/index.htm