From tobias@sc.edu Tue Sep 3 15:23:24 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 03 Sep 2002 15:23:25 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B79E288A1 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:23:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from isg.csd.sc.edu (mel.csd.sc.edu [129.252.42.58]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7124C1A193E for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:16:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Tarantula.sc.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by isg.csd.sc.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA22935 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 16:16:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020903154410.05734d58@isg.csd.sc.edu> X-Sender: tobias@isg.csd.sc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 16:15:28 -0400 To: From: Tobias Brasier Subject: [encore] enCore Xpress, Shutting Down, etc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 576 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: tobias@sc.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: tobias@sc.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi all-- Thanks for all the responses on creating help files. They were, no pun intended, very helpful. Now, some more questions/situations. 1. This one may simply be a browser compatibility issue (though I have tried it on several browsers). When logging in using enCore Xpress (http://moo.sc.edu:7000/) no connection is established. One of the frames contains the message: ===== Starting enCore Xpress from server: moo.sc.edu Please Wait... If you are reconnecting and this window is not updated, click on the look button in the Xpress toolbar, or type look in the talk window to update it. ===== The login never advances beyond that. Any ideas what the issue might be? 2. Is there a way to perform a clean shutdown of the MOO from outside the MOO? I hope these questions aren't too silly. Many thanks. Tobias Brasier University Webmaster, University of South Carolina Manager, Internet Solutions Group 1244 Blossom Street, Columbia, South Carolina 29208 voice: 803-777-5211 | fax: 803-777-4149 tobias@sc.edu | http://isg.csd.sc.edu/~tobias/ From aborgia@videotron.ca Tue Sep 3 18:43:24 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 03 Sep 2002 18:43:25 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C3AE288FD for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 18:43:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B501A0E74 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 18:36:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alex ([24.200.69.169]) by VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 (built Feb 21 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H1V002NMVUPK0@VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca> for encore@utdallas.edu; Tue, 03 Sep 2002 18:30:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 18:30:27 -0400 From: Alexandre Borgia Subject: [encore] Re: enCore Xpress, Shutting Down, etc In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.2.20020903154410.05734d58@isg.csd.sc.edu> To: encore@utdallas.edu Message-id: <200209031830.27193.aborgia@videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020903154410.05734d58@isg.csd.sc.edu> X-archive-position: 577 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: aborgia@videotron.ca Precedence: bulk Reply-to: aborgia@videotron.ca List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Bonjour, > 1. This one may simply be a browser compatibility issue (though I have > tried it on several browsers). When logging in using enCore Xpress > (http://moo.sc.edu:7000/) no connection is established. One of the frames > contains the message: > ===== > Starting enCore Xpress from server: moo.sc.edu > > Please Wait... Is it possible you updated from an old enCore installation? Your "/encore/mootcan" directory structure isn't the same than the latest release's. The browser actually seeks for: /encore/mootcan/mootcan-012.jar Which isn't there. The startup then hangs indefinitely. You can probably find the right "mootcan*.jar" filename and update the following property: $xpress_client.java_client_archive ... but I'd rather suggest that you go grab the latest release files and update the whole mootcan directory. > 2. Is there a way to perform a clean shutdown of the MOO from outside the > MOO? On Unix-like systems, you can kill it using the TERM signal - it will perform standard shutdown procedures. And if I remember well, on winMOO servers you can type CTRL-C in the MOO-console (I don't know about winMOO running as a service for NT though). Try them and check if you get the new log & DB files created into the MOO-directory. Hope this helps! - Alexandre Borgia From jan.holmevik@uib.no Tue Sep 3 20:19:28 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 03 Sep 2002 20:19:29 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3CA288C8 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:19:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 445151A0ADC for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 20:12:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 66-169-102-60.ftwrth.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.17]) [66.169.102.60] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.35) id 17mOhx-0004HP-00; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 03:11:49 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 20:11:48 -0500 Subject: [encore] $webprojector fix From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="B_3113928712_18234573" X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: fab4e080bc3232f8c7d942dcacf4b36c http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: -0.8 hits, 8 required; X-archive-position: 578 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3113928712_18234573 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Ken Schweller, MOO guru extraordinaire and founder of Collegetown MOO wrote to report a bug in $webprojector:start. A fix has been attached to this mail. Thanks, Ken! 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Is there a way to perform a clean shutdown of the MOO from outside the MOO? Actually he said from outside the moo. And why eval it? You can always use @shutdown, unless its not part of the ENCORE db. I know it is part of all the other DB's I've worked with. As far as from outside the moo. IF your in a *nix environment there is a way. I forget how. There are 3 proccess's running. If you kill the main one it will die an ugly death :) But I /think/ if you kill one of the sub ones it says woops not happy and starts an imeddiate checkpoint/shutdown. I haven't done this in so long. I know I did it once but can't remember exactly how. :) Best luck At 10:25 PM 9/3/2002 +0200, Rory Vieira wrote: >Dear Tobias, > >I can't help you with the first, but the second 'should' be: > ;shutdown() > >Simply telnet to your moo, login as wizard, and perform above >function/verb/procedure/whatever :) > >Hope this helps, > >Rory > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tobias Brasier" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 10:15 PM >Subject: [encore] enCore Xpress, Shutting Down, etc > > >> Hi all-- >> >> Thanks for all the responses on creating help files. They were, no pun >> intended, very helpful. >> >> Now, some more questions/situations. >> >> 1. This one may simply be a browser compatibility issue (though I have >> tried it on several browsers). When logging in using enCore Xpress >> (http://moo.sc.edu:7000/) no connection is established. One of the frames >> contains the message: >> ===== >> Starting enCore Xpress from server: moo.sc.edu >> >> Please Wait... >> >> If you are reconnecting and this window is not updated, click on the >look >> button in the Xpress toolbar, or type >> look in the talk window to update it. >> ===== >> The login never advances beyond that. Any ideas what the issue might be? >> >> 2. Is there a way to perform a clean shutdown of the MOO from outside the >MOO? >> >> I hope these questions aren't too silly. Many thanks. >> >> Tobias Brasier >> University Webmaster, University of South Carolina >> Manager, Internet Solutions Group >> 1244 Blossom Street, Columbia, South Carolina 29208 >> voice: 803-777-5211 | fax: 803-777-4149 >> tobias@sc.edu | http://isg.csd.sc.edu/~tobias/ >> >> > > > From herve@hawaii.edu Wed Sep 4 14:45:38 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 04 Sep 2002 14:45:39 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2049288D8 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:45:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from rapidash.its.hawaii.edu (rapidash.its.hawaii.edu [128.171.94.83]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8592E1A0015 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:38:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail.hawaii.edu by mail.hawaii.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.9 (built May 30 2002)) id <0H1X00201I3O6M@mail.hawaii.edu>; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 09:37:32 -1000 (HST) Received: from herve.phys.hawaii.edu (herve.phys.hawaii.edu [128.171.11.114]) by mail.hawaii.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 HotFix 0.9 (built May 30 2002)) with ESMTPS id <0H1X004NLIGZGV@mail.hawaii.edu>; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 09:36:35 -1000 (HST) Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 09:43:03 -1000 (HST) From: herve@hawaii.edu Subject: [encore] Re: enCore Xpress, Shutting Down, etc In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.20020904152657.00d9aa98@pop.mindspring.com> X-X-Sender: herve@herve.phys.hawaii.edu To: encore@utdallas.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-archive-position: 580 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: herve@hawaii.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: herve@hawaii.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore > IF your in a *nix environment there is a way. I forget how. There are 3 > proccess's running. If you kill the main one it will die an ugly death :) > But I /think/ if you kill one of the sub ones it says woops not happy and > starts an imeddiate checkpoint/shutdown. Pick the one with the lowest task number (out of the three); then issue a kill command: kill -9 12345 (assuming 12345 is your target task id) and that will dump the db before shutting it down) -- Namárië, -rv, /-----------------------------------------\ MOOOOOooo...! @ http://moo.kcc.hawaii.edu / "A Túrin Turambar turun ambartanen", T. From lirvin@mail.accd.edu Wed Sep 4 15:38:22 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 04 Sep 2002 15:38:23 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FC81288A8 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:38:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail.accd.edu (209-184-119-40.accd.edu [209.184.119.40]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9371A0E00 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:31:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sacpipeline ([10.12.0.41]) by mail.accd.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H1XKPV00.K1B for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:25:07 -0500 Message-ID: <-1741321406.1031171127750.JavaMail.SYSTEM@sacpipeline> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 15:25:27 -0500 (CDT) From: "LAWRENCE L. IRVIN" To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Edit multi-media content problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 581 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@mail.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lirvin@mail.accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hey Everyone, When I am editing an object and click the Edit Multi-media content option, I am getting an error message. The editing window doesn't load; instead I get this message: ========================= Failed request was: POST /Xpress_Object_Editor/Editor.html HTTP/1.1 Details: Traceback: #158:edit_url, line 10:Property not found ... called from #158:Editor_html, line 78 ... called from #32:get, line 45 (End of traceback) ----------------------------------------------------------------- enCoreXpress/3.2 web server at ranger.accd.edu port 7000 ========================= I might have missed it, but was their a fix for this problem already posted. Thanks for any help! Lennie P.S. I have one other mystery. Does anyone know why in a Generic Note sometimes quotation marks do not show? ------------------------------------------------------- L. Lennie Irvin San Antonio College Department of English http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/lirvin.htm AlaMOO: http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/AlaMOO/index.htm From jan.holmevik@uib.no Thu Sep 5 15:26:23 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 05 Sep 2002 15:26:26 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C43E288CB for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:26:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43DE1A06E2 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2002 15:19:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 66-169-102-60.ftwrth.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.30]) [66.169.102.60] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.35) id 17n350-00055S-00; Thu, 05 Sep 2002 22:18:18 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006 Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 15:18:22 -0500 Subject: [encore] FW: collaboration From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: 287aad0b29ff81d2174fb225e0178fab http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: -5 hits, 8 required; X-archive-position: 582 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore ------ Forwarded Message From: "Ken Schweller" Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2002 15:14:44 -0500 To: Subject: collaboration Greetings enCore Xpress users-- My name is Ken Schweller. I am teaching a Freshman Seminar course this fall at Buena Vista University in Storm Lake, IA on 'Living in CyberSpace'. Our class is building 'SeminarMOO' from the ground up using the Encore data base and interface. I am looking for other college classes using MOOs to arrange a bit of collaboration.. the usual stuff, student presentations, joint building projects, shared discussions.. whatever. I would be pleased to send any interested profs additional info. I am a long time MOO programmer - head of Collegetown and (not very active...) wiz on mediaMOO, DiversityU, BayMOO and others - although I have not been too involved in the MOO worlds for the past 2 years. I look forward to working with a few other profs to get students together online for educational projects or exchanges this semester. My home page is http://schweller.bvu.edu Email is: schweller@bvu.edu Thanks! Dr. Ken Schweller - aka cdr, ken Professor of Computer Science and Psychology Dean, School of Science Buena Vista University Storm Lake, IA schweller@bvu.edu http://schweller.bvu.edu ------ End of Forwarded Message From kingbx@uncg.edu Fri Sep 6 14:54:20 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 06 Sep 2002 14:54:27 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9450B28A31 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:54:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from internal-gw.uncg.edu (internal-gw.uncg.edu [152.13.2.73]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B821A0596 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 14:46:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from uncg.edu (raking.uncg.edu [152.13.154.21]) by internal-gw.uncg.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g86Jkoxn017883 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3D79063C.439DE782@uncg.edu> Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 15:47:09 -0400 From: Bob King X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: enCore list Subject: [encore] connection timing out References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 583 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: kingbx@uncg.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: kingbx@uncg.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi all, We have a user who says she is being disconnected from our MOO, from a modem connection, after 15 seconds or so of inactivity. We've been having network issues on our campus, and this may be the culprit -- but I thought I would ask about this just in case it is something others have encountered and remedied... I and students have experienced connections being dropped on occasion, but it's always seemed random and infrequent -- not related to level of activity/inactivity. Thanks in advance! Bob ______________________________________ Bob King Instructional Technology Consultant & Curriculum and Instruction Faculty University of North Carolina at Greensboro bob_king@uncg.edu (336) 256-0415 338 Curry Building From Lirvin@ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU Sun Sep 8 22:47:42 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 08 Sep 2002 22:47:43 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B9E288C8 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 22:47:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B2041A0E54 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 2002 22:40:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Ir191470 [10.1.11.38] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Sun, 08 Sep 2002 22:40:45 CDT From: "Lennie Irvin" To: Subject: [encore] 1stMondays@AlaMOO this Monday Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 22:42:39 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C25789.09073AC0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-archive-position: 584 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Lirvin@accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Lirvin@accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C25789.09073AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone, You are invited to 1stMondays@AlaMOO's first gathering for the Fall 2002 semester (on the second Monday this month...). The topic for discussion will be Hybrid Use of Technology---this includes teaching in a computer classroom and traditional classroom environment as well as situations where technology might be brought into a traditional classroom. Although the session is focused predominantly for the context of teaching writing and literature with technology, many of the issues involved apply to other disciplines. The discussion will be held online in the AlaMOO Conference Center September 9th from 2-3 PM CST. AlaMOO can be reached at http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/AlaMOO/index.htm For a special help page for attending the online session, please view and print the following page: http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/MOOstuff/AlaMOOconfpacket.htm I look forward to seeing you in AlaMOO! Lennie _________________________________ L. 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I've been lurking on the encore list for over a year now. this semester I'm taking a CS course, and for my final project there are several things I'll want to do in my Encore moo. I will be throwing myself on the kindness of the list for help when I get stuck. I have gone through all the past list archives, BTW, and I will continue to do so to avoid bothering you kind folks. Right now I am running 3.0, and I'm getting an error when I use the XPress program editor, which is an inconvenience. I'm thinking I should upgrade anyway to 3.2. Am I correct that I have to install the patches before moving to 3.2, or can I download 3.2 directly? And I'm going to have to repeat a question I found in the archives (but no answer): how does one get rid of sleeping players who never logged out and probably aren't even on campus anymore, without blowing them away? Hopefully, at the end of all this, I'll be able to share a few things with the list. But thanks very much, in advance, for your patience. Joel Haefner Illinois Wesleyan University jhaefner@iwu.edu From aborgia@videotron.ca Mon Sep 9 20:55:22 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 09 Sep 2002 20:55:23 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B91CA2875F for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:55:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149F61A0D8B for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 20:47:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alex (modemcable169.69-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca [24.200.69.169]) by VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 (built Feb 21 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H2700FBJ55NCV@VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca> for encore@utdallas.edu; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 20:24:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 20:25:11 -0400 From: Alexandre Borgia Subject: [encore] Re: upgrading & sleeping players In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20020909074506.022ac570@sun.iwu.edu> To: encore@utdallas.edu Message-id: <200209092025.11928.aborgia@videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020909074506.022ac570@sun.iwu.edu> X-archive-position: 586 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: aborgia@videotron.ca Precedence: bulk Reply-to: aborgia@videotron.ca List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore > how does one get rid of sleeping players who never logged out and > probably aren't even on campus anymore, without blowing them away? The manual way of disconnecting players is the "@boot " command - or is it what you meant by "blowing them away"? If this is a frequent behavior, you might want a simple automated task, for example: @verb me:@auto-b*oot none none none rdx @program me:@auto-boot for i in (connected_players()) if (idle_seconds(i) >= 7200) i:tell("It's time to go to bed!"); boot_player(i); endif endfor fork (3600) this:("@auto-boot")(); endfork . This code will boot players who have been inactive for more than two hours (or 7200 seconds - you can change this value to your own needs). Actually, they will be booted when idling for somewhere between 2 and 3 hours, since the code gets executed every hour (or 3600 seconds - you can, again, change this value). I'm not sure what you mean about "not blowing them away", but this kind of "kicking" has no negative effects (as banning the player from the MOO, etc.) - it simply disconnects the user. As for upgrading: I'm not aware of the issues between 3.0 & 3.2, but I suggest you patch the database from a standard telnet login. You then ensure that any broken dependencies between the web-features and the web structure won't cause problem while applying modifications:) - Alexandre Borgia From lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Tue Sep 10 13:55:12 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:55:13 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD23128904 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:55:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id AEC721A1A5A for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:47:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from GH208-LIRVIN.accdvm.accd.edu [10.11.14.204] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:48:06 CDT Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020910132000.00aac170@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 13:42:27 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Lennie Irvin Subject: [encore] Login trouble--SunJava and IE, MS Virtual Machine incompatibility? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 587 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Lennie waves. I think I now have reason to switch to Mozilla, but I'm still predominantly an Internet Explorer user, and I ran into a login snag that I was hoping some of you might know how to get un-snagged. I was dealing with a student who was having difficulties logging into the MOO I use, AlaMOO. The problem seemed to be the one I encounter most often these days--browser does not support java. My most frequent students with this problem have come from Netscape or AOL users. My fix has been to point them to the java 2 download site (or to update their browser). This student, though, was using Internet Explorer 6 (on I think Windows 2000 or XP). When she logged in to the MOO, the Xpress side would show, but the text side of the moo would not come up. Sounds like java to me. So I urged her to download the Sun Java2. Just to see, I decided to do it with my machine as well (IE6 and Windows 2000 as well). I downloaded the Java Virtual Machine from this site: http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html Well, this seemed to wack out my Microsoft Virtual Machine and now I can no longer see the text side of the moo. Error messages galor. "Microsoft Virtual Machine you are attempting to install is a protected system component and can only be updated with a later release or the operating system or service pack." --"Attachment to running Virtual Machine failed." The java download also installed an awful shortcut on my desktop to "Java Web Start" that opens some sort of Draw program and some games! What is this? I guess internet explorer uses the MS Virtual Machine by default and when I tried to install the Java VM things got confused. My question is how do I untangle this mess--install recent Windows Updates (service packs)? How do I help my students who have this same problem? What are the most frequent login difficulties and how do we overcome them? Sorry for the long-winded message. Thanks for some help. Lennie L. Lennie Irvin English Instructor, San Antonio College 1300 San Pedro Ave. San Antonio, TX 78212 Lirvin@accd.edu http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/lirvin.htm AlaMOO: http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/AlaMOO/index.htm From lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Wed Sep 11 13:23:01 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:23:02 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92287288C8 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:23:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 8DE6A1A039B for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:15:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from GH208-LIRVIN.accdvm.accd.edu [10.11.14.204] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:15:29 CDT Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020911130604.00aae008@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:09:55 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Lennie Irvin Subject: [encore] Re: Login trouble--SunJava and IE, MS Virtual Machine incompatibility? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020910132000.00aac170@accdvm.accd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 588 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore I think I solved my own login problem related to the Java and Virtual Machine difficulty. Solution: do a windows update and download the service pack3 (I think for windows 2000). That seemed to resolve the issue. Cheers, Lennie At 01:42 PM 9/10/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Lennie waves. > >I think I now have reason to switch to Mozilla, but I'm still >predominantly an Internet Explorer user, and I ran into a login snag that >I was hoping some of you might know how to get un-snagged. > >I was dealing with a student who was having difficulties logging into the >MOO I use, AlaMOO. The problem seemed to be the one I encounter most >often these days--browser does not support java. My most frequent >students with this problem have come from Netscape or AOL users. My fix >has been to point them to the java 2 download site (or to update their >browser). This student, though, was using Internet Explorer 6 (on I think >Windows 2000 or XP). > >When she logged in to the MOO, the Xpress side would show, but the text >side of the moo would not come up. Sounds like java to me. So I urged >her to download the Sun Java2. Just to see, I decided to do it with my >machine as well (IE6 and Windows 2000 as well). > >I downloaded the Java Virtual Machine from this site: >http://java.sun.com/getjava/download.html >Well, this seemed to wack out my Microsoft Virtual Machine and now I can >no longer see the text side of the moo. Error messages galor. "Microsoft >Virtual Machine you are attempting to install is a protected system >component and can only be updated with a later release or the operating >system or service pack." > >--"Attachment to running Virtual Machine failed." > >The java download also installed an awful shortcut on my desktop to "Java >Web Start" that opens some sort of Draw program and some games! What is this? > >I guess internet explorer uses the MS Virtual Machine by default and when >I tried to install the Java VM things got confused. > >My question is how do I untangle this mess--install recent Windows Updates >(service packs)? > >How do I help my students who have this same problem? What are the most >frequent login difficulties and how do we overcome them? > >Sorry for the long-winded message. Thanks for some help. > >Lennie > > > >L. Lennie Irvin >English Instructor, San Antonio College >1300 San Pedro Ave. >San Antonio, TX 78212 >Lirvin@accd.edu >http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/lirvin.htm > >AlaMOO: http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/AlaMOO/index.htm > L. Lennie Irvin English Instructor, San Antonio College 1300 San Pedro Ave. San Antonio, TX 78212 Lirvin@accd.edu http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/lirvin.htm AlaMOO: http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/AlaMOO/index.htm From aborgia@videotron.ca Wed Sep 11 16:10:07 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:10:08 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB0542890C for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:10:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31FD19FFC3 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:02:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alex (modemcable169.69-200-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca [24.200.69.169]) by VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 (built Feb 21 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H2A007EPJROCT@VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca> for encore@utdallas.edu; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:33:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:33:37 -0400 From: Alexandre Borgia Subject: [encore] Re: sleeping players In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.0.20020910120918.022a6ec0@sun.iwu.edu> To: encore@utdallas.edu Message-id: <200209111633.37689.aborgia@videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020909074506.022ac570@sun.iwu.edu> <5.1.0.14.0.20020910120918.022a6ec0@sun.iwu.edu> X-archive-position: 589 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: aborgia@videotron.ca Precedence: bulk Reply-to: aborgia@videotron.ca List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Ah, now I understand what you meant by sleeping players:) If I can help not re-inventing the wheel, I'd just like to point out that the $limbo as it is can work with every room, not just the $player_start room. Well, let me explain ... The "enCore Starting Point" (or $player_start) is the default home for all users. It is great to have this common public place, but for obvious reasons you don't want a hundred unanimated bodies laying around when their owners are not connected:) A special room has been created to avoid this: the $limbo (or "body bag"). This is where the players are actually sent upon disconnection. This turnaround is based on the fact that whether you have a custom home or use the $player_start room, the normal disconnection procedures will always try to send you home. On standard $rooms, nothing happens and the player just sleeps there. On $player_start, a custom "enterfunc" verb intercepts whatever enters and, if it finds it to be a "sleeping body", sends it to the $limbo. In a similar way, the $limbo has a special "confunc" that transparently moves the player back to their home upon connection: yes, not necessarily the $player_start but really any room set as their home! So, you see, the "Dormitory" you are talking about already exists. Simply: @move to $limbo ... instead of changing their rooms and @ejecting them. If for some reason players can @sethome on other rooms you'd like to keep clean & public, you can: @copy $player_start:enterfunc to ... if you have a lot such "public rooms", I suggest you rather create a new generic instance and @chown the rooms to it. I don't want to speculate on code too much since your case is pretty specific, but a simple automation might use this: max_sleeping_days = 60 * 60 * 24 * ; for i in (players()) if ((time() - i.last_disconnect_time) > max_sleeping_days) move(i, $limbo); endif endfor ... players who did not connect for will then be "hidden". - Alexandre Borgia PS: for the purists - one drawback to sending players to the $limbo from various homes is that @who on a disconnected player sent there will always tell he is sleeping in the starting room. I suspect that some other commands make the same assumptions ... happy hunting;) On September 10, 2002 01:18 pm, you wrote: > The solution is to change their home properties to an area the wizard > designates, then eject them. this assumes that the wizard owns the space > (usually the player_start object) from which to eject them. > > Ergo: > 1. create a "holding room" for these somnolent ghosts. I called mine, > logically, the Dormitory. > 2. @set player_name.home to bedroom_obj_number > 3. @eject player_name > > The @eject command sends them to their home to sleep, so in this case it > sends them to the Dormitory. Interestingly, once there, they don't show up > at all! > > I guess it's a solution, anyway. If someone would like to write a verb that > automates this (with arguments that specify the character and the room to > which she/he is to be sent), I'd be grateful... I tried but keep getting > compiling errors and am running out of time. From jhaefner@iwu.edu Fri Sep 13 12:21:05 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 13 Sep 2002 12:21:06 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5AD288CB for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 12:21:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from triton.iwu.edu (triton.iwu.edu [198.178.132.31]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A551A224D for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 12:13:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from triton.iwu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by viruswall.iwu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5CD713200 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 12:11:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sun.iwu.edu (sun.iwu.edu [198.178.132.10]) by triton.iwu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28A413102 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 12:11:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cahuff.iwu.edu (unknown [10.2.41.245]) by sun.iwu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265252BF7 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 12:13:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020913120924.00acfc90@sun.iwu.edu> X-Sender: jhaefner@sun.iwu.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 12:12:38 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Joel Haefner Subject: [encore] broken verb editor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 590 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jhaefner@iwu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jhaefner@iwu.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi folks, I just finished an upgrade from Xpress 3.0 to 3.2, partly in hopes that it would fix my broken verb editor problem. While upgrading did fix a plug-in error I had, it did not fix this problem. Basically, the web-based verb editor in enCore just won't work. The properties can be edited, but the verbs cannot be. Verbs can all be edited fine in the MOO base. I remember seeing an email in the archives concerning this problem with 3.1. I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem, and if so, (of course) if there is a fix. Thanks, and cheers. Dr. Joel Haefner, Writing Coordinator and Instructor, Computer Science Illinois Wesleyan University P.O. Box 2900, Bloomington, IL 61702-2900 USA Voice: 309/556-3756 Web: www.iwu.edu/~jhaefner "Everything is deeply intertwingled." --Ted Nelson, father of hypertext From j.turner@qut.edu.au Sat Sep 14 22:33:54 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 14 Sep 2002 22:33:55 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89DE72875F for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 22:33:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from tu01m3.qut.edu.au (mail.qut.edu.au [131.181.127.183]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C334E1A01F8 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 22:26:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pigeon.qut.edu.au (pigeon.qut.edu.au [131.181.127.98]) by mail.qut.edu.au (PMDF V5.2-33 #46659) with ESMTP id <0H2G13NDGMVK7M@mail.qut.edu.au> for encore@utdallas.edu; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:26:13 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (turnerj@localhost) by pigeon.qut.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29710 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:26:08 +1000 (EST) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:26:08 +1000 (EST) From: "truna aka j.turner" Subject: [encore] ghost in the machine? In-reply-to: <200209092025.11928.aborgia@videotron.ca> To: encore@utdallas.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 591 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: j.turner@qut.edu.au Precedence: bulk Reply-to: j.turner@qut.edu.au List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore greetings ... one of my student's claims that his moo character object is possessed ... he is getting 'internal server errors' whenever he tries to make an new object or a new verb in encore and 'type mismatch' if he tries the same in a client .. we've seen this problem a couple of times before and assumed that the student has destroyed something somewhere and responded by re-making their player object and changing ownership of stuff across .... does anyone have any insights on this? is it a ghost in the machine and a case of possession? or is there something i can look for on the players character to fix if it happens again? cheers, love truna ***************************************************** truna aka j.turner : digital literacist QUT, Brisbane, Australia ***************************************************** itsnotafish: http://truna.net jalapeno : jalapeno@qut.edu.au ) email : j.turner@qut.edu.au 8==%^^^^^^^^^^~/^^' ICQ : #12145525 " truna " From lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Tue Sep 17 16:06:02 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 17 Sep 2002 16:06:03 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56DE288C9 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 16:06:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CF111A1BAA for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 15:58:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from *unknown [10.11.14.204] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 15:58:48 CDT X-Warning: ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU: Could not confirm that host [10.11.14.204] is GH208-LIRVIN.accdvm.accd.edu Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020917152626.00aac828@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 15:52:54 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Lennie Irvin Subject: [encore] Login/Access problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 592 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Everyone, I have recently had a couple of my students experience some persistent access problems that I have not been able to resolve, so I was hoping some of you might have an answer. Here is Rose Mary's situation: When she logs in, the login hangs with the client download. When she hits LOOK, the Xpress graphical side comes up, but the left text side gets a grey screen with a purple line in the middle. At this time, she gets a message that reads, "Loading Class History Nod." After a few moments, she gets this error messages: "Exception Java.lang.Null Pointer Exception And the text side never loads. Other pertinent info for her situation: Java 2 plugin downloaded and installed Encore 3.2 MOO WindowsNT Internet Explorer version 6--her settings for IE have java enabled She downloaded the service pack 1 for NT I'm stumped on this one. She accesses from her work situation in a government office--could there be some web restrictions in place at her office that could cause these problems? Is something going on between Sun Java and Microsoft Virtual Machine? ========================== I've also recently encountered another access problem that I have never run into before. One of my students has complained that while they are logged on to the MOO that they get a message saying that their time has expired and the MOO boots them out of the program. What is that? I'm not aware of any sort of time restriction on access in the moo. Perhaps as another matter, though maybe related, Rose Mary attempted to install Netscape 7 (at my urging) to see if we could gain access with it. However, when she attempts to login she received a message stating, "Time out occurred" and something about the server where the MOO is located. I have had no difficulties accessing EnCore from recent versions of Netscape 6 (with Java installed)--has anyone tried Netscape 7? I appreciate any help on this problem. Thanks, Lennie L. Lennie Irvin English Instructor, San Antonio College 1300 San Pedro Ave. San Antonio, TX 78212 Lirvin@accd.edu http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/lirvin.htm AlaMOO: http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/AlaMOO/index.htm From egoff@mindspring.com Tue Sep 17 17:25:25 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:25:26 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A2C288C8 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:25:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.243]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797B21A0611 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:17:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from user-uiveqea.dsl.mindspring.com ([165.247.105.202] helo=master) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17rQf8-0006Vg-00; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:17:42 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020917181928.00dac8a0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: egoff@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:19:28 -0400 To: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu, encore@utdallas.edu From: Edward Goff Subject: [encore] Re: Login/Access problems In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020917152626.00aac828@accdvm.accd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-archive-position: 593 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: egoff@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: egoff@mindspring.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore NT 4.0 or Windows 2000 (NT 5.0) or Windows XP (nt 5.1) I can't say I can give you an answer but SP1 is the lowest of all SP's except for XP NT has all the way up to 6a though 5 or 6 should fix it 2K has 3 of them and XP has 1 I've also heard stories, nothing I've seen yet, or XP not liking VJM 2 and it will do just that. From egoff@mindspring.com Tue Sep 17 17:26:37 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:26:38 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD241288C8 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:26:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.243]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C971A0A59 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:19:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from user-uiveqea.dsl.mindspring.com ([165.247.105.202] helo=master) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17rQgN-0001Su-00; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:18:59 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020917182045.00dac8a0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: egoff@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:20:45 -0400 To: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu, encore@utdallas.edu From: Edward Goff Subject: [encore] Re: Login/Access problems In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020917152626.00aac828@accdvm.accd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-archive-position: 594 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: egoff@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: egoff@mindspring.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore >========================== >I've also recently encountered another access problem that I have never run >into before. One of my students has complained that while they are logged >on to the MOO that they get a message saying that their time has expired >and the MOO boots them out of the program. What is that? I'm not aware of >any sort of time restriction on access in the moo. > its not the moo. Check there access level on campus, on there ISP, ect. That time experied is probably something local to them and them alone. >Perhaps as another matter, though maybe related, Rose Mary attempted to >install Netscape 7 (at my urging) to see if we could gain access with >it. However, when she attempts to login she received a message stating, >"Time out occurred" and something about the server where the MOO is >located. I have had no difficulties accessing EnCore from recent versions >of Netscape 6 (with Java installed)--has anyone tried Netscape 7? > I stopped paying attention to netscape at 6.0 due the problems they were getting into. UI didn't even know 7.0 was out offically. I had heard it was still in beta. From cynthiah@utdallas.edu Tue Sep 17 18:08:21 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:08:22 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB382288CB for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:08:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [10.0.1.38] (66-169-102-60.ftwrth.tx.charter.com [66.169.102.60]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 763E51A022D; Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:00:44 -0500 (CDT) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:03:50 -0500 Subject: [encore] Re: Login/Access problems From: Cynthia Haynes To: , , encore Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20020917182045.00dac8a0@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 595 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: cynthiah@utdallas.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cynthiah@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore If it's a government office they may have some kind of Firewall or port sniffer installed on their internet pipe. And if so, she needs to ask them whether they can filter your MOO ports out of its checking system (esp. The telnet port since it's only the telnet side that won't load). Best, Cynthia __Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and Writing___________________ University of Texas at Dallas cynthiah@utdallas.edu School of Arts & Humanities http://www.utdallas.edu/~cynthiah PO Box 830688-JO 31 http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000 Richardson, TX 75083-0688 (O)972-883-6340 (F)972-883-2989 From afjcw@uaa.alaska.edu Fri Sep 20 03:11:08 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 20 Sep 2002 03:11:09 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB39288A1 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 03:11:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sentinel.uaa.alaska.edu (Sentinel.uaa.alaska.edu [137.229.100.128]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049D81A225B for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 03:03:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Isocrates ([137.229.98.138]) by sentinel.uaa.alaska.edu (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 uaa Dec 7 2001 09:58:59) with ESMTP id H2Q91J00.F47 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 00:03:19 -0800 From: "Jeff White" To: "encore" Subject: [encore] errors a student encounters Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 00:02:56 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-archive-position: 596 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: afjcw@uaa.alaska.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: afjcw@uaa.alaska.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore I have a student receiving the following errors when she tries to use her home machine to view material in my moo. The moo is working fine, and she's able to use it elsewhere, but not from home. Apparently, she's in the MOO and attempting to view pages from a web projector. When she types in the command, she gets the page she's going for, but this error pops up and ceases any activity w/the moo. She's tried in both NS and IE. It appears from the error message, that she's using NS 6 (which I know is a problem in itself) and I'm not sure of the version of explorer. The following snip is Greek to me. Any suggestions on what's going on here? thanks, jeffwhite -------------- From student: Jeff, Yes I am still having problems seeing the assignments. everytime that I try to view it, I get a page default and am not able to print what has come up on the screen behind that error message, which is the assignment I am trying to view. Please see below for the error messages from both Internet Explorer and Netscape. The message I received when using Netscape: NETSCP6UUK caused an invalid page fault in module at 0000:02b63129. Registers: EAX=0af71370 CS=017f EIP=02b63129 EFLGS=00010246 EBX=0af71038 SS=0187 ESP=0e060000 EBP=0e060008 ECX=04ed7f18 DS=0187 ESI=0af711cf FS=2da7 EDX=02b63129 ES=0187 EDI=0e15fb9c GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: 55 8b ec 8b 4d 08 51 b8 70 13 f7 0a e8 e6 ff ff Stack dump: 02b6313a 04ed7f18 0e060014 02b6313a 04ed7f18 0e060020 02b6313a 04ed7f18 0e06002c 02b6313a 04ed7f18 0e060038 02b6313a 04ed7f18 0e060044 02b6313a The message I received when using Internet Explorer: IEXPLORE caused an invalid page fault in module at 0000:02c246a9. Registers: EAX=0b03f4f8 CS=017f EIP=02c246a9 EFLGS=00010246 EBX=0b03f1c0 SS=0187 ESP=0e550000 EBP=0e550008 ECX=04f97ef0 DS=0187 ESI=0b03f357 FS=2587 EDX=02c246a9 ES=0187 EDI=0e64fb9c GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: 55 8b ec 8b 4d 08 51 b8 f8 f4 03 0b e8 e6 ff ff Stack dump: 02c246ba 04f97ef0 0e550014 02c246ba 04f97ef0 0e550020 02c246ba 04f97ef0 0e55002c 02c246ba 04f97ef0 0e550038 02c246ba 04f97ef0 0e550044 02c246ba From egoff@mindspring.com Sat Sep 21 15:22:14 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 21 Sep 2002 15:22:15 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB582875F for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 15:22:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (mclean.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.57]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE39B1A1341 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 15:14:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from user-uiver74.dsl.mindspring.com ([165.247.108.228] helo=master) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17sqe1-0003sw-00; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 16:14:26 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020921161553.00db3aa0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: egoff@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 16:15:53 -0400 To: afjcw@uaa.alaska.edu, "encore" From: Edward Goff Subject: [encore] Re: errors a student encounters In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-archive-position: 597 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: egoff@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: egoff@mindspring.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore I don't know the problem but page faults are usually caused by a program or programs accessing incorrect memory registers. Most of the time Video ram. I /suspect/ one of two issues. Bad video driver Not current service packs/Windows updates. OLD verison of windows. My suggestion is this. A) does user have ALL the latests drivers for there hardware, video card, MB, ECT. b) does user have ALL windows updates installed for IE and for windows. c) Get rid of NS6 it bout useless from what I've heard D) if none of that works User might want a tech to check the box out. "probably" is the answer here. Without knowing ALOT more its hard to say. Visit www.windrivers.com adn enter the free help chat room tons of us there that will help for free. At 12:02 AM 9/20/2002 -0800, Jeff White wrote: >I have a student receiving the following errors when she tries to use her >home machine to view material in my moo. The moo is working fine, and she's >able to use it elsewhere, but not from home. > >Apparently, she's in the MOO and attempting to view pages from a web >projector. When she types in the command, she gets the page she's going for, >but this error pops up and ceases any activity w/the moo. She's tried in >both NS and IE. It appears from the error message, that she's using NS 6 >(which I know is a problem in itself) and I'm not sure of the version of >explorer. > > > >The following snip is Greek to me. Any suggestions on what's going on here? > >thanks, >jeffwhite > >-------------- > >From student: > >Jeff, > >Yes I am still having problems seeing the assignments. everytime that I >try to view it, I get a page default and am not able to print what has >come up on the screen behind that error message, which is the assignment >I am trying to view. > >Please see below for the error messages from both Internet Explorer and >Netscape. > > >The message I received when using Netscape: > > >NETSCP6UUK caused an invalid page fault in >module at 0000:02b63129. >Registers: >EAX=0af71370 CS=017f EIP=02b63129 EFLGS=00010246 >EBX=0af71038 SS=0187 ESP=0e060000 EBP=0e060008 >ECX=04ed7f18 DS=0187 ESI=0af711cf FS=2da7 >EDX=02b63129 ES=0187 EDI=0e15fb9c GS=0000 >Bytes at CS:EIP: >55 8b ec 8b 4d 08 51 b8 70 13 f7 0a e8 e6 ff ff >Stack dump: >02b6313a 04ed7f18 0e060014 02b6313a 04ed7f18 0e060020 02b6313a 04ed7f18 >0e06002c 02b6313a 04ed7f18 0e060038 02b6313a 04ed7f18 0e060044 02b6313a > >The message I received when using Internet Explorer: > > >IEXPLORE caused an invalid page fault in >module at 0000:02c246a9. >Registers: >EAX=0b03f4f8 CS=017f EIP=02c246a9 EFLGS=00010246 >EBX=0b03f1c0 SS=0187 ESP=0e550000 EBP=0e550008 >ECX=04f97ef0 DS=0187 ESI=0b03f357 FS=2587 >EDX=02c246a9 ES=0187 EDI=0e64fb9c GS=0000 >Bytes at CS:EIP: >55 8b ec 8b 4d 08 51 b8 f8 f4 03 0b e8 e6 ff ff >Stack dump: >02c246ba 04f97ef0 0e550014 02c246ba 04f97ef0 0e550020 02c246ba 04f97ef0 >0e55002c 02c246ba 04f97ef0 0e550038 02c246ba 04f97ef0 0e550044 02c246ba > > > > From tobias@sc.edu Tue Sep 24 10:03:26 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:03:27 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2416288CE for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:03:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from isg.csd.sc.edu (mel.csd.sc.edu [129.252.42.58]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE301A1C62 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 09:55:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Tarantula.sc.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by isg.csd.sc.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA23386 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020924105505.057f04d0@isg.csd.sc.edu> X-Sender: tobias@isg.csd.sc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:55:34 -0400 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Tobias Brasier Subject: [encore] MOO Clients Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 598 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: tobias@sc.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: tobias@sc.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi all-- What are your preferred clients to connect to MOOs? I mostly use GMud, which craps out quite a bit under Win2K when trying to make multiple connections. I am trying to convince a co-worker (a skilled programmer, but with no interest in MOOs) to develop a Java client based using GMud as a base set of functions. I have started to use tkMOO more, but would like something a bit more configurable as far as colors, sizes, multiple connections, and macros. Uploading a large amount of text to the MOO using GMud seems to produce bad results, as though the system is somehow saving up hard returns or something; I am not sure how to describe this problem better. Thanks. Tobias Brasier University Webmaster, University of South Carolina Manager, Internet Solutions Group 1244 Blossom Street, Columbia, South Carolina 29208 voice: 803-777-5211 | fax: 803-777-4149 tobias@sc.edu | http://isg.csd.sc.edu/~tobias/ From frank@modell.iig.uni-freiburg.de Tue Sep 24 10:35:48 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:35:50 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4BA288F2 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:35:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from tolkien.iig.uni-freiburg.de (tolkien.iig.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.19.20]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DD641A1C05 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:27:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from lem.iig.uni-freiburg.de (lem [132.230.19.14]) by tolkien.iig.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA01537 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:27:55 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:27:53 +0200 (MEST) From: Frank Roehr X-X-Sender: To: Subject: [encore] Re: MOO Clients In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020924105505.057f04d0@isg.csd.sc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 599 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: frank@modell.iig.uni-freiburg.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: frank@modell.iig.uni-freiburg.de List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi Tobias and all, I use TinyFugue to connect to the MOO. I think it's hard to find a better client. Anyway, I didn't try your suggestions, perhaps I should... Just the best, Frank - -- Frank Roehr Institut fuer Informatik und Gesellschaft Abteilung Modellbildung und soziale Folgen Tel: 0761 - 203 - 4971 mailto:frank@modell.iig.uni-freiburg.de PGP Key downloadable: http://lem.iig.uni-freiburg.de/pgp/frank.asc ,,Ich hacke ein Loch in unser Raumschiff, ich weiss, es ist nicht klug...'' Crow, Mystery Science Theater 3000: The movie -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3in Charset: noconv Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iQDVAwUBPZCEeymu6c3J2y2DAQGxlQX/Q/8X+vvq7+CP+WlqHQFxnQofAuNi3eqj On/w2erwlqDhQhiDbQMygH9oPXR2z3br3Tfxsny4g0hfjuV+v0xBU3NYK/zE4WPv V5v+I0CWzw7eIBcIHOAGCyaOvBYY9nrGrBgwWXd9ZAFwn/pz3VQIP2qVWIyy71l1 bxyHyZqXsWKY3iyERczUwVuISnAPH+GjKA6rgNeNFaqwmIzDAOGS7cPduKfRm8OQ dXhfOn+2JIShSL5cp3vk5lldKhpW2GaX =C1cO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From egoff@mindspring.com Tue Sep 24 13:43:08 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:43:09 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110CB28905 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:43:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.60]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1051A1CD7 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:35:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from user-2ivekhu.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.82.62] helo=master) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17tuWf-0003XA-00; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:35:14 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020924143713.00db15b8@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: egoff@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:37:13 -0400 To: tobias@sc.edu, encore@utdallas.edu From: Edward Goff Subject: [encore] Re: MOO Clients In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020924105505.057f04d0@isg.csd.sc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-archive-position: 600 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: egoff@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: egoff@mindspring.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore At 10:55 AM 9/24/2002 -0400, Tobias Brasier wrote: >Hi all-- > >What are your preferred clients to connect to MOOs? > >I mostly use GMud, which craps out quite a bit under Win2K when trying to >make multiple connections. Really? How old is your copy? Never had a problem with it myself. I am trying to convince a co-worker (a skilled >programmer, but with no interest in MOOs) to develop a Java client based >using GMud as a base set of functions. I have started to use tkMOO more, >but would like something a bit more configurable as far as colors, sizes, >multiple connections, and macros. There are several "java telnet" clients written. None so grand as windows based ones, but there functional. If your looking to try somethbing new and better (or not better *grin*) Goto www.tucows.com and look under your OS (windows 2K I assume)( and pick any or all of the telnet clients and try them out > >Uploading a large amount of text to the MOO using GMud seems to produce bad >results, as though the system is somehow saving up hard returns or >something; Ahh the bain of my existance as a programmer :) Which is why I use ZMUD, as much as I like simpleMU and GMUD for there simplicity and low overhead. I need the full featured editor and other goodies that come with zmud I am not sure how to describe this problem better. > >Thanks. > >Tobias Brasier >University Webmaster, University of South Carolina >Manager, Internet Solutions Group >1244 Blossom Street, Columbia, South Carolina 29208 >voice: 803-777-5211 | fax: 803-777-4149 >tobias@sc.edu | http://isg.csd.sc.edu/~tobias/ > > > From egoff@mindspring.com Tue Sep 24 13:46:25 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:46:26 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81E6228905 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:46:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.60]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B771A1CDF for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:38:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from user-2ivekhu.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.82.62] helo=master) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17tuZI-0003V5-00; Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:37:57 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020924143956.00db15b8@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: egoff@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:39:56 -0400 To: frank@modell.iig.uni-freiburg.de, From: Edward Goff Subject: [encore] Re: MOO Clients In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020924105505.057f04d0@isg.csd.sc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-archive-position: 601 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: egoff@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: egoff@mindspring.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Unless I miss my guess and they have finally ported it. TF is a *nix client and when in *nix (*usually linux) its the bomb. A)its not for windows users due to its different nature. B)it doesn't have its own editor. I usually use VI or emacs. Again unless something has changed and they did a bit of playing with it and compiled it for a windows based kernal. At 05:27 PM 9/24/2002 +0200, Frank Roehr wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Hi Tobias and all, > >I use TinyFugue to connect to the MOO. I think it's hard to find a better >client. Anyway, I didn't try your suggestions, perhaps I should... > >Just the best, > >Frank > >- -- >Frank Roehr >Institut fuer Informatik und Gesellschaft >Abteilung Modellbildung und soziale Folgen >Tel: 0761 - 203 - 4971 >mailto:frank@modell.iig.uni-freiburg.de >PGP Key downloadable: http://lem.iig.uni-freiburg.de/pgp/frank.asc > >,,Ich hacke ein Loch in unser Raumschiff, >ich weiss, es ist nicht klug...'' > Crow, Mystery Science Theater 3000: The movie > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: 2.6.3in >Charset: noconv >Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 > >iQDVAwUBPZCEeymu6c3J2y2DAQGxlQX/Q/8X+vvq7+CP+WlqHQFxnQofAuNi3eqj >On/w2erwlqDhQhiDbQMygH9oPXR2z3br3Tfxsny4g0hfjuV+v0xBU3NYK/zE4WPv >V5v+I0CWzw7eIBcIHOAGCyaOvBYY9nrGrBgwWXd9ZAFwn/pz3VQIP2qVWIyy71l1 >bxyHyZqXsWKY3iyERczUwVuISnAPH+GjKA6rgNeNFaqwmIzDAOGS7cPduKfRm8OQ >dXhfOn+2JIShSL5cp3vk5lldKhpW2GaX >=C1cO >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > From SCHWELLER@bvu.edu Wed Sep 25 08:33:07 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:33:08 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76959288C9 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:33:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ngw.bvu.edu (ngw.bvu.edu [147.92.2.13]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 427BC1A05DF for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:25:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from BVU-Gateways-MTA by ngw.bvu.edu with Novell_GroupWise; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:25:13 -0500 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.0.1 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 08:24:43 -0500 From: "Ken Schweller" To: Cc: "John Allen" , "Anthony Bossi" , "Benjamin Dilocker" , "Braden Friedow" , "Heidi Kassel" , "Nicholas Kirsch" , "Stephanie Nielsen" , "Scott Palmer" , "Jacob Pavlovec" , "Erin Ruff" , "Amy Sibbel" , "William Standish" , "Adam Strater" , "Matthew Wittry" , "Roseanne Wolf" Subject: [encore] SeminarMOO Opens! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-archive-position: 602 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: SCHWELLER@bvu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: SCHWELLER@bvu.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Announcing the opening of SeminarMOO at http://147.92.13.7:7000/ SeminarMOO is now open to all folks having an interest in Educational Moos. Drop by for a visit or request a character from Ken Schweller ( http://web.bvu.edu/faculty/schweller ) by sending email to schweller@bvu.edu This moo is an extension/addition to 'Collegetown' so any old members of CT are most welcome to reincarnate in our new encoreXpress digs! I am currently teaching a first year Seminar on 'Exploring CyberSpace' and I welcome others involved in similar projects to join forces with me and my students for some collaborative adventures! ====================================== Dr. Ken Schweller Professor of Computer Science and Psychology Dean, School of Science Buena Vista University Storm Lake, IA 50588 schweller@bvu.edu http://schweller.bvu.edu 712 749-2019 ====================================== From karper@expert.ics.purdue.edu Wed Sep 25 11:01:03 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:01:04 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD8E2875F for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:01:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from expert.ics.purdue.edu (expert.ics.purdue.edu [128.210.10.11]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7041A082A for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:53:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (karper@localhost) by expert.ics.purdue.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27624 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:53:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:53:12 -0500 (EST) From: Erin E Karper Cc: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] java MOO client In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020924105505.057f04d0@isg.csd.sc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 603 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: karper@expert.ics.purdue.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: karper@expert.ics.purdue.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore I forget who was looking for a Java MOO client, but Roger Everett (Nim on LambdaMOO) wrote a Java-based MOO client (not a web-based Java applet, but a MOO client written in Java) called JMOOer. It's free, open source, etc. Download it at http://members.bellatlantic.net/%7Evze2bw5p/jmooer/jmooer.html Erin From tobias@sc.edu Thu Sep 26 09:59:10 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 26 Sep 2002 09:59:10 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBE12891F for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 09:59:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from isg.csd.sc.edu (mel.csd.sc.edu [129.252.42.58]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 143D81A22CE for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 09:51:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Tarantula.sc.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by isg.csd.sc.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA18443 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:51:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020926104642.05dd3e68@isg.csd.sc.edu> X-Sender: tobias@isg.csd.sc.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 10:51:10 -0400 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Tobias Brasier Subject: [encore] Sending email Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 604 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: tobias@sc.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: tobias@sc.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi all-- Now the issue is sending email at player creation. Our OS is Solaris 9. When I make a player, I opt to have email containing the password sent to the provided email address. Sometimes the MOO responds with invalid address, email not sent. Sometimes it responds with everything fine, email sent. The problem is that email is never sent. The syslogs are not revealing much; in fact, I cannot pinpoint one email sent from the MOO, whether success was claimed or not. Can someone provide guidance on this issue? Thank you. Tobias Brasier University Webmaster, University of South Carolina Manager, Internet Solutions Group 1244 Blossom Street, Columbia, South Carolina 29208 voice: 803-777-5211 | fax: 803-777-4149 tobias@sc.edu | http://isg.csd.sc.edu/~tobias/ From egoff@mindspring.com Thu Sep 26 14:04:58 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 26 Sep 2002 14:04:59 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A36D288C6 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 14:04:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.243]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D598D1A2449 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 13:57:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from user-2ivelb3.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.85.99] helo=master) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17udoo-00033v-00; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 14:56:58 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020926145820.00dbc120@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: egoff@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 14:58:20 -0400 To: tobias@sc.edu, encore@utdallas.edu From: Edward Goff Subject: [encore] Re: Sending email In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020926104642.05dd3e68@isg.csd.sc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-archive-position: 605 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: egoff@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: egoff@mindspring.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore First thing I would do is @d $network. That will list all the props on the $network object Are they all set correctly? ESPICALLY the maildrop At 10:51 AM 9/26/2002 -0400, Tobias Brasier wrote: >Hi all-- > >Now the issue is sending email at player creation. Our OS is Solaris 9. >When I make a player, I opt to have email containing the password sent to >the provided email address. Sometimes the MOO responds with invalid >address, email not sent. Sometimes it responds with everything fine, email >sent. The problem is that email is never sent. The syslogs are not >revealing much; in fact, I cannot pinpoint one email sent from the MOO, >whether success was claimed or not. > >Can someone provide guidance on this issue? Thank you. > >Tobias Brasier >University Webmaster, University of South Carolina >Manager, Internet Solutions Group >1244 Blossom Street, Columbia, South Carolina 29208 >voice: 803-777-5211 | fax: 803-777-4149 >tobias@sc.edu | http://isg.csd.sc.edu/~tobias/ > > > From jan.holmevik@uib.no Thu Sep 26 14:18:04 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 26 Sep 2002 14:18:05 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678EA288D3 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 14:18:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A791A11DF for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 14:10:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 66-169-102-60.ftwrth.tx.charter.com ([10.0.1.45]) [66.169.102.60] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.35) id 17ue12-0004C6-00; Thu, 26 Sep 2002 21:09:36 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.0.2006 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 14:09:37 -0500 Subject: [encore] Re: Sending email From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020926104642.05dd3e68@isg.csd.sc.edu> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: 694f28d5c50b400df67ad5de8201e4ba http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-UiB-SpamFlag: NO UIB: -5 hits, 8 required; X-archive-position: 606 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jan.holmevik@uib.no List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore Assuming that your MOO is set up correctly and that you have specified a valid mail host you need to look at your mail server's configuration to make sure that it will accept remailing from the MOO. Talk to your system admin and ask them to check on this for you. Cheers, Jan On 9/26/02 9:51 AM, "Tobias Brasier" wrote: > Hi all-- > > Now the issue is sending email at player creation. Our OS is Solaris 9. > When I make a player, I opt to have email containing the password sent to > the provided email address. Sometimes the MOO responds with invalid > address, email not sent. Sometimes it responds with everything fine, email > sent. The problem is that email is never sent. The syslogs are not > revealing much; in fact, I cannot pinpoint one email sent from the MOO, > whether success was claimed or not. > > Can someone provide guidance on this issue? Thank you. > > Tobias Brasier > University Webmaster, University of South Carolina > Manager, Internet Solutions Group > 1244 Blossom Street, Columbia, South Carolina 29208 > voice: 803-777-5211 | fax: 803-777-4149 > tobias@sc.edu | http://isg.csd.sc.edu/~tobias/ > > > __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From nae_sue@hotmail.com Mon Sep 30 14:24:25 2002 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:24:26 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D9C2893F for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:24:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from hotmail.com (f53.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.53]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 253F51A0299 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 14:16:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 12:16:22 -0700 Received: from 24.48.237.28 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 30 Sep 2002 19:16:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.48.237.28] From: "Renee Whitesell" To: encore@utdallas.edu, djg25@psu.edu Subject: [encore] Grand Opening-World of Diversity Virtual Community and Ribbon Cutting!! Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 19:16:21 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_10ab_3bb9_6817" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Sep 2002 19:16:22.0095 (UTC) FILETIME=[DCB405F0:01C268B5] X-archive-position: 607 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: nae_sue@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: nae_sue@hotmail.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-ID: X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_10ab_3bb9_6817 Content-Type: text/html

To all on the list.  After a year of hard work, we are finally ready to "officially" open our moo.  Thank you to all who have patiently answered my questions and helped.  I want to invite you all to our grand opening tomorrow.  Unfortunately, I have class and will not be able to attend, but my boss, Dr. Deborah Gill, will be there to great everyone.  Thank you all!

Renee



>From: Deborah Gill
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>Subject: Grand Opening-World of Diversity Virtual Community and Ribbon Cutting!!
>Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 23:47:57 -0400
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I’m writing to invite everyone to the Grand Opening of “World of Diversity”, a Virtual Community created to promote diversity and encourage collaboration. It is also a place where you can meet friends, “build” your own house, objects, lands, etc., and include images, sounds, and text!  It is also a place where you can meet to work on projects with classmates without any interruption.  You will also be able to learn about different countries and Study Abroad opportunities. 

On Tuesday, October 1, 2002, at 10:00 a.m. we will have a “Virtual Ribbon Cutting” ceremony.  Dr. Sandra Gleason (Associate Dean of Faculty and Research) will be doing the honors of cutting the “Virtual Ribbon” and then we will celebrate with virtual music (which you really can hear!), virtual dancing, and virtual champaign and toasts all around!! 

Then, starting at 11:00 a.m., and continuing throughout the day and on Wednesday, we will have an On-Line Conference on “Technology and Collaboration Across Disciplines” in which faculty from our campus, other PSU campuses, as well as other Universities (and tentatively a person from France!) will present on the use of technology in a number of different disciplines.  And, one of our students will be presenting on a “Student’s Perspective of Technology in the Classroom”.  It should be a wonderful conference!  To see the conference schedule, go to

If you are interested in seeing what “World of Diversity” is all about, you can “read” about it at http://diversity.ds.psu.edu/World_of_Diversity/index.html, or if you would like to just explore, send a message to psu_diversity@yahoo.com or djg25@psu.edu and I will create a USER ID for you. 

I hope to see some of you there at the Grand Opening!  It would be nice to have a good turnout for this special event with Dr. Gleason!!  Please pass this message on to those at other locations!  The Conference will have discussions from a number of different disciplines, including Education, Foreign Languages, Women’s Studies, and Art/Art Education!! 

Looking forward to hearing for you!

Best,

Debbie

Deborah Gill, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor of Spanish
Pennsylvania State University-DuBois
College Place
DuBois, PA 15801
(814) 375-4783
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