From nae_sue@hotmail.com Fri Mar 8 21:52:37 2002 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 08 Mar 2002 21:52:38 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDBC288BB for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 21:52:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from hotmail.com (f60.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.60]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50FD31A14D1 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 21:50:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 19:50:39 -0800 Received: from 24.48.237.42 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 09 Mar 2002 03:50:39 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.48.237.42] From: "Renee Whitesell" To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Foreign Lang. in Encore Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 03:50:39 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2002 03:50:39.0773 (UTC) FILETIME=[943784D0:01C1C71D] X-archive-position: 425 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: nae_sue@hotmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: nae_sue@hotmail.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore I was wondering if anyone could answer a quick question. We use our encore database as a "Diversity" community. This includes the classes of all of our foreign languages. The question that has been presented to me is..."is it possible to create the accented letters within encore to help enhance the foreign lang. practice"? This means to be able to write á ó ú ń, and so forth? I have worked at it, and can find nothing. If anyone has any ideas, or has dealt with this before, please let me know. Thank you to all!!! Renee _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From rtk@stargate.net Fri Mar 8 23:38:28 2002 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 08 Mar 2002 23:38:28 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99EE9288B9 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 23:38:27 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net (smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net [206.210.69.141]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 972A21A042A for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 23:36:29 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 29204 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2002 05:36:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO t4k7j9) (144.80.92.30) by smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2002 05:36:28 -0000 From: "Rob Koch Jr." To: Subject: [encore] Verb Programming Assistance??? Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 00:44:39 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020131100518.00a858a8@accdvm.accd.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-archive-position: 426 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: rtk@stargate.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: rtk@stargate.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi all, These two verbs are giving me the same error when I go to compile them. Line 2: Parsing error. I know the property current_full is in place, and it seems to be working. But these 2 have me stumped. Any suggestions would be much appreciated! Rob VERB #1 drink red none out of/from inside/from this 1: "Based on Fnord's culinary work at AppalachiaMOO." 2: if(this.current_full == 0) 3: player:tell(this.empty_msg()); 4: return 0; 5: else 6: player:tell(this.drink_msg()); 7: player:tell("The ", this.contains, "tastes ", this.content_taste, "."); 8: if(msg = this:odrink_msg()); 9: player.location:announce(player.name, " ", msg); 10: endif 11: player.location:announce(player.name, " ",this.content_reaction); 12: this.current_full=this.current_full - 1; 13: if (this.current_full < 1) 14: this.current_full=0; 15: this.contains="nothing"; 16: endif 17: endif VERB #2 empty red this none none 1: "Based on Fnord's culinary work at AppalachiaMOO." 2: if(this.current_full>0) 3: player:tell(You pour out the ", this.contains, "."); 4: player.location:announce(player.name, " pours out all the ", this.contains, " on to the ground. How wasteful!"); 5: else 6: player:tell("It is already empty."); 7: endif 8: this.current_full=0; From herve@hawaii.edu Sat Mar 9 00:09:49 2002 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 09 Mar 2002 00:09:50 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75397288B9 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 00:09:49 -0600 (CST) Received: from rapidash.its.hawaii.edu (rapidash.its.hawaii.edu [128.171.94.83]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E431A052B for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 00:07:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail.hawaii.edu by mail.hawaii.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) id <0GSO00B01ZDSBQ@mail.hawaii.edu>; Fri, 08 Mar 2002 20:07:50 -1000 (HST) Received: from uhunix2 (uhunix2.its.hawaii.edu [128.171.44.7]) by mail.hawaii.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GSO009K7ZP2A7@mail.hawaii.edu>; Fri, 08 Mar 2002 20:07:50 -1000 (HST) Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 20:07:50 -1000 (HST) From: rv Subject: [encore] Re: Verb Programming Assistance??? In-reply-to: X-X-Sender: To: "Rob Koch Jr." Cc: encore@utdallas.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-LATIN-1 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-archive-position: 427 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: herve@hawaii.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: herve@hawaii.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Rob, add a ; at the end of the first lines. Aloha, -rv, > These two verbs are giving me the same error when I go to compile them. > Line 2: Parsing error. I know the property current_full is in place, and= it > seems to be working. But these 2 have me stumped. Any suggestions would= be > much appreciated! > > Rob > > VERB #1 > > drink > red > none out of/from inside/from this > > 1: "Based on Fnord's culinary work at AppalachiaMOO." > 2: if(this.current_full =3D=3D 0) > 3: player:tell(this.empty_msg()); > 4: return 0; > 5: else > 6: player:tell(this.drink_msg()); > 7: player:tell("The ", this.contains, "tastes ", this.content_taste, ".")= ; > 8: if(msg =3D this:odrink_msg()); > 9: player.location:announce(player.name, " ", msg); > 10: endif > 11: player.location:announce(player.name, " ",this.content_reaction); > 12: this.current_full=3Dthis.current_full - 1; > 13: if (this.current_full < 1) > 14: this.current_full=3D0; > 15: this.contains=3D"nothing"; > 16: endif > 17: endif > > VERB #2 > > empty > red > this none none > 1: "Based on Fnord's culinary work at AppalachiaMOO." > 2: if(this.current_full>0) > 3: player:tell(You pour out the ", this.contains, "."); > 4: player.location:announce(player.name, " pours out all the ", > this.contains, " on to the ground. How wasteful!"); > 5: else > 6: player:tell("It is already empty."); > 7: endif > 8: this.current_full=3D0; > > > Nam=E1ri=EB, -rv, /-----------------------------------------\ MOOOOOooo...! @ http://moo.kcc.hawaii.edu / "A T=FArin Turambar turun ambartanen", T. From rtk@stargate.net Sat Mar 9 00:40:32 2002 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 09 Mar 2002 00:40:32 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F251288B9 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 00:40:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net (smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net [206.210.69.141]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 4EB661A1512 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 00:38:33 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 18675 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2002 06:38:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO t4k7j9) (144.80.92.30) by smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2002 06:38:32 -0000 From: "Rob Koch Jr." To: Subject: [encore] Re: Verb Programming Assistance (Part 2)??? Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 01:46:43 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-archive-position: 428 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: rtk@stargate.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: rtk@stargate.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi again, rv, thanks for the semicolon suggestion. That got me down to lines 3 and 6 of the drink verb. It seems that the verb won't compile unless I use a colon for this.empty_msg and this.drink_msg. The problem is, these aren't verbs. They're properties, so they should have the period, but then the verbs won't compile. But the empty verb is now working fine, so I'll take that victory happily. Now for this one... Rob VERB #1 drink red none out of/from inside/from this 1: "Based on Fnord's culinary work at AppalachiaMOO." 2: if(this.current_full == 0) 3: player:tell(this.empty_msg()); 4: return 0; 5: else 6: player:tell(this.drink_msg()); 7: player:tell("The ", this.contains, "tastes ", this.content_taste, "."); 8: if(msg = this:odrink_msg()); 9: player.location:announce(player.name, " ", msg); 10: endif 11: player.location:announce(player.name, " ",this.content_reaction); 12: this.current_full=this.current_full - 1; 13: if (this.current_full < 1) 14: this.current_full=0; 15: this.contains="nothing"; 16: endif 17: endif From rtk@stargate.net Sat Mar 9 00:48:54 2002 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 09 Mar 2002 00:48:55 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46836288B9 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 00:48:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net (smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net [206.210.69.141]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 23FA21A1513 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 00:46:55 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 20447 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2002 06:46:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO t4k7j9) (144.80.92.30) by smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2002 06:46:54 -0000 From: "Rob Koch Jr." To: Subject: [encore] Re: Verb Programming Assistance??? Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 01:55:06 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-archive-position: 429 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: rtk@stargate.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: rtk@stargate.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore I've gotten the lines 3 and 6 fixed, I think, it's getting that far, but now it's telling me the property on line 7 is not found, though I'm looking right at it in the programmer. Ugh! Rob (again) VERB #1 drink red none out of/from inside/from this 1: "Based on Fnord's culinary work at AppalachiaMOO." 2: if(this.current_full == 0) 3: player:tell(this.empty_msg); 4: return 0; 5: else 6: player:tell(this.drink_msg); 7: player:tell("The ", this.contains, "tastes ", this.content_taste, "."); 8: if(msg = this.odrink_msg); 9: player.location:announce(player.name, " ", msg); 10: endif 11: player.location:announce(player.name, " ",this.content_reaction); 12: this.current_full=this.current_full - 1; 13: if (this.current_full < 1) 14: this.current_full=0; 15: this.contains="nothing"; 16: endif 17: endif VERB #2 empty red this none none 1: "Based on Fnord's culinary work at AppalachiaMOO." 2: if(this.current_full>0) 3: player:tell(You pour out the ", this.contains, "."); 4: player.location:announce(player.name, " pours out all the ", this.contains, " on to the ground. How wasteful!"); 5: else 6: player:tell("It is already empty."); 7: endif 8: this.current_full=0; From rtk@stargate.net Sat Mar 9 00:56:26 2002 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 09 Mar 2002 00:56:27 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DACDF288B9 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 00:56:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net (smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net [206.210.69.141]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 6636D1A037B for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 00:54:28 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 22214 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2002 06:54:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO t4k7j9) (144.80.92.30) by smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 9 Mar 2002 06:54:27 -0000 From: "Rob Koch Jr." To: Subject: [encore] Re: Verb Programming Assistance (Part 2)??? Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 02:02:39 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-archive-position: 430 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: rtk@stargate.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: rtk@stargate.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore And then, he had an epiphany... a bolt of lightnin' come down an' struck 'im in 'e head! It works! It's alive!! R From herve@hawaii.edu Sat Mar 9 14:28:33 2002 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 09 Mar 2002 14:28:34 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA27A288A1 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 14:28:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from rapidash.its.hawaii.edu (rapidash.its.hawaii.edu [128.171.94.83]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B851A0669 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 14:26:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail.hawaii.edu by mail.hawaii.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) id <0GSQ005012YH28@mail.hawaii.edu>; Sat, 09 Mar 2002 10:26:33 -1000 (HST) Received: from uhunix2 (uhunix2.its.hawaii.edu [128.171.44.7]) by mail.hawaii.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GSQ0073X3G66D@mail.hawaii.edu>; Sat, 09 Mar 2002 10:26:30 -1000 (HST) Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2002 10:26:30 -1000 (HST) From: rv Subject: [encore] Re: Verb Programming Assistance (Part 2)??? In-reply-to: X-X-Sender: To: "Rob Koch Jr." Cc: encore@utdallas.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-LATIN-1 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-archive-position: 431 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: herve@hawaii.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: herve@hawaii.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore yoohoo! Aloha! :) > And then, he had an epiphany... a bolt of lightnin' come down an' struck = 'im > in 'e head! > > It works! It's alive!! > > R > > > Nam=E1ri=EB, -rv, /-----------------------------------------\ MOOOOOooo...! @ http://moo.kcc.hawaii.edu / "A T=FArin Turambar turun ambartanen", T. From kennro@austarnet.com.au Tue Mar 12 05:00:39 2002 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 12 Mar 2002 05:00:40 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26C1D288E4 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 05:00:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from gol-mro1.austar.net.au (gol-mro1.austar.net.au [203.22.8.213]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE0F1A02EC for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 04:58:32 -0600 (CST) Received: from syd-msw1.austar.net.au (pix-i.austar.net.au [172.18.91.3] (may be forged)) by gol-mro1.austar.net.au (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id AAG19056; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 20:58:29 +1000 (EST) Received: from ITHome (dialup-169.199.220.203.acc01-alma-roc.comindico.com.au [203.220.199.169]) by syd-msw1.austar.net.au (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id ACH12791 (AUTH kennro); Tue, 12 Mar 2002 21:17:12 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <004e01c1c9b5$7a2393a0$a9c7dccb@yeppoon.shs.net.au> From: "Roy Kennedy" To: Subject: [encore] Limits on number of connections Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 21:02:58 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004B_01C1CA09.499E1DA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-archive-position: 432 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: kennro@austarnet.com.au Precedence: bulk Reply-to: kennro@austarnet.com.au List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C1CA09.499E1DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know this is probably documented somewhere but can anyone advise me on = the maximum simultaneous connections that enCore will allow. I am = assuming that it depends on a number of factors such as size of db, = server memory etc.. Regards Roy Kennedy ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C1CA09.499E1DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I know this is probably documented = somewhere but=20 can anyone advise me on the maximum simultaneous connections that enCore = will=20 allow.  I am assuming that it depends on a number of factors such = as size=20 of db, server memory etc..
 
Regards
 
Roy Kennedy
 
------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C1CA09.499E1DA0-- From rtk@stargate.net Sun Mar 17 11:58:02 2002 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:58:03 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AEBF2876A for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:58:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net (smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net [206.210.69.141]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id D5C841A0D5D for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:55:44 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 979 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2002 17:55:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO t4k7j9) (144.80.92.30) by smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 17 Mar 2002 17:55:43 -0000 From: "Rob Koch Jr." To: Subject: [encore] MOO Mailer... Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 13:04:24 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1CDB4.42D5CDC0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <200202271357.g1RDvQ954934@pilot05.cl.msu.edu> X-archive-position: 433 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: rtk@stargate.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: rtk@stargate.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1CDB4.42D5CDC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I'm still facing an uphill battel trying to figure out this MOO Mailer. I know Cynthia and parrishka have tried to help me, but things still don't seem to be working. Here's what I have, followed by what I need. EN101-46 (#554) which is supposed to be a mailing list. It appears as a mailbox underneath the inbox, and I as well as all my students, have subscribed to it. Problem: When I tried to send mesages out, It seems to give me a traceback error. Am I supposed to write a message addressed to the list (en101-46 in the to: slot?) I've tried this and it hasn't worked. If I send mail other wise, it just goes directly to the inbox. Needs: I need to be able to compose to my students-- I message that goes out to all of them, via the en101-46 mailbox. Possible Solution: Parrishka suggested to me to alter the properties .moderated, .writers, and .readers. If I add all my students' and my object numbers to these three properties, will that solve the problem and enable me/us to write directly to this mailbox? Rob ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1CDB4.42D5CDC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 all,
 
I'm=20 still facing an uphill battel trying to figure out this MOO = Mailer.  I know=20 Cynthia and parrishka have tried to help me, but things still don't seem = to be=20 working.  Here's what I have, followed by what I = need.
 
EN101-46 (#554)  which is supposed to be a mailing = list.  It=20 appears as a mailbox underneath the inbox, and I as well as all my = students,=20 have subscribed to it.
 
Problem:  When I tried to send mesages out, It seems to = give me a=20 traceback error.  Am I supposed to write a message addressed to the = list=20 (en101-46 in the to: slot?)  I've tried this and it hasn't = worked.  If=20 I send mail other wise, it just goes directly to the = inbox.
 
Needs:  I need to be able to compose to my students-- I = message that=20 goes out to all of them, via the en101-46 mailbox.
 
Possible Solution:  Parrishka suggested to me to alter the = properties .moderated, .writers, and .readers.  If I add all my = students'=20 and my object numbers to these three properties, will that solve the = problem and=20 enable me/us to write directly to this mailbox?
 
Rob
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C1CDB4.42D5CDC0-- From cynthiah@utdallas.edu Sun Mar 17 12:08:27 2002 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:08:28 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D6C2876A for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:08:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from [10.0.1.18] (unknown [66.169.102.225]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC441A00D1; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:06:12 -0600 (CST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:06:20 -0600 Subject: [encore] Re: MOO Mailer... From: Cynthia Haynes To: , encore Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 434 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: cynthiah@utdallas.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: cynthiah@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Rob, Have you entered an asterisk preface to the list name in the TO field? Like this: TO: *en101-46 Best, Cynthia __Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and Writing___________________ University of Texas at Dallas cynthiah@utdallas.edu School of Arts & Humanities http://www.utdallas.edu/~cynthiah PO Box 830688-JO 31 http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000 Richardson, TX 75083-0688 (O)972-883-6340 (F)972-883-2989 From rtk@stargate.net Sun Mar 17 13:58:21 2002 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 17 Mar 2002 13:58:22 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200E2288A6 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 13:58:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net (smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net [206.210.69.141]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id AA97B1A0903 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 13:56:03 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 15451 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2002 19:56:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO t4k7j9) (144.80.92.30) by smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 17 Mar 2002 19:56:02 -0000 From: "Rob Koch Jr." To: , "encore" Subject: [encore] Re: MOO Mailer... Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:04:42 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: X-archive-position: 435 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: rtk@stargate.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: rtk@stargate.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Cynthia, Just tried it. I tmight have worked. The first time, I used *EN101-46 and got this error message Failed request was: POST /Xpress_MOO_mailer/send_mail HTTP/1.1 Details: Traceback: #155:compose, line 15:Range error ... called from #155:send_mail, line 65 ... called from #32:get, line 45 (End of traceback) The second time, I used *EN10146 and it seems to have sent off. Rob -----Original Message----- From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu]On Behalf Of Cynthia Haynes Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 1:06 PM To: rtk@stargate.net; encore Subject: [encore] Re: MOO Mailer... Rob, Have you entered an asterisk preface to the list name in the TO field? Like this: TO: *en101-46 Best, Cynthia __Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and Writing___________________ University of Texas at Dallas cynthiah@utdallas.edu School of Arts & Humanities http://www.utdallas.edu/~cynthiah PO Box 830688-JO 31 http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000 Richardson, TX 75083-0688 (O)972-883-6340 (F)972-883-2989 From rtk@stargate.net Sun Mar 17 14:01:03 2002 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 17 Mar 2002 14:01:04 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A682D288A6 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 14:01:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net (smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net [206.210.69.141]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 0309B1A11C4 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 13:58:48 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 16698 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2002 19:58:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO t4k7j9) (144.80.92.30) by smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 17 Mar 2002 19:58:44 -0000 From: "Rob Koch Jr." To: , "encore" Subject: [encore] Re: MOO Mailer... Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 15:07:24 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: X-archive-position: 436 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: rtk@stargate.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: rtk@stargate.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Actually, It gave me recipient not found when I did *EN101-46. No luck. (I've got to remember to close Pop-Up Killer when I log in from home!) Rob :) -----Original Message----- From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu]On Behalf Of Cynthia Haynes Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2002 1:06 PM To: rtk@stargate.net; encore Subject: [encore] Re: MOO Mailer... Rob, Have you entered an asterisk preface to the list name in the TO field? Like this: TO: *en101-46 Best, Cynthia __Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and Writing___________________ University of Texas at Dallas cynthiah@utdallas.edu School of Arts & Humanities http://www.utdallas.edu/~cynthiah PO Box 830688-JO 31 http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000 Richardson, TX 75083-0688 (O)972-883-6340 (F)972-883-2989 From j.a.r.williams@aston.ac.uk Mon Mar 18 04:07:16 2002 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 18 Mar 2002 04:07:17 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33CBD2878D for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 04:07:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from email.aston.ac.uk (email.aston.ac.uk [134.151.79.13]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5359F1A13E8 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 04:04:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from [134.151.54.90] (helo=heisenberg.aston.ac.uk) by email.aston.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.30 #1) id 16mu18-0000It-00 for encore@utdallas.edu; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:05:26 +0000 Sender: willijar@heisenberg.aston.ac.uk To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Web interface for Asynchronous Discussion Groups X-Url: http://www.ee.aston.ac.uk/research/photonics/members/willijar X-Attribution: JARW Organization: Aston University From: John Williams Date: 18 Mar 2002 10:06:00 +0000 Message-ID: <87g02ynqbb.fsf@heisenberg.aston.ac.uk> Lines: 21 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-archive-position: 437 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: J.A.R.Williams@aston.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: J.A.R.Williams@aston.ac.uk List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore I was wondering if anyone had developed objects to enable the management of asynchronous discussion groups with a user friendly web interface for the encore Core. Basically, perhaps, a version of $mail_recipient with a Web presentation of the messages, with a web form for posting new messages and with a threaded presentation. I am interested in this as I currently use such systems outside the MOO but it would be cleaner if I could bring it inside and use the same authentication and access management for both MOO and discussion group. If this is something that is already done I would of course like to use it. If not it is something I will probably develop myself (but I don't want to reinvent the wheel). -- Dr. John A.R. Williams Photonics Research Group (http://www.ee.aston.ac.uk/research/photonics) Aston University (http://www.aston.ac.uk) PGP: http://www.ee.aston.ac.uk/research/photonics/members/willijar/about/key From frank@modell.iig.uni-freiburg.de Mon Mar 18 04:30:33 2002 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 18 Mar 2002 04:30:34 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CB4B2878D for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 04:30:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from tolkien.iig.uni-freiburg.de (tolkien.iig.uni-freiburg.de [132.230.19.20]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F09401A13EF for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 04:28:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from lem.iig.uni-freiburg.de (lem [132.230.19.14]) by tolkien.iig.uni-freiburg.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA24306; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:28:07 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:28:06 +0100 (MET) From: Frank Roehr X-X-Sender: To: John Williams Cc: Subject: [encore] Re: Web interface for Asynchronous Discussion Groups In-Reply-To: <87g02ynqbb.fsf@heisenberg.aston.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 438 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: frank@modell.iig.uni-freiburg.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: frank@modell.iig.uni-freiburg.de List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore On 18 Mar 2002, John Williams wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone had developed objects to enable the > management of asynchronous discussion groups with a user friendly web > interface for the encore Core. Basically, perhaps, a version of > $mail_recipient with a Web presentation of the messages, with a web > form for posting new messages and with a threaded presentation. I > am interested in this as I currently use such systems outside the MOO > but it would be cleaner if I could bring it inside and use the same > authentication and access management for both MOO and discussion > group. > [..] A very simple solution to this is the following which we use for Seminar-preparation in our MOO: We use a room as our centre of discussion. One person (the owner of the room) may edit the room description, and the other persons (who are the shared_owners of this room) may add ,annotations'. This Annotation is appended at the end of the room description, with a note who and when this annotation was added. Of course, this is not the same as a fully functional Discussion group with threads and the like - but for our purposes it's enough. I have not yet put that code into the net, but if anybody is interested in it please mail me. The main reason for not releasing the code is the fact that it's a very ugly hack - and a simple copy&paste with minor changes from the room editing commands. Frank -- Frank Roehr Institut fuer Informatik und Gesellschaft Abteilung Modellbildung und soziale Folgen Tel: 0761 - 203 - 4971 mailto:frank@modell.iig.uni-freiburg.de PGP Key downloadable: http://lem.iig.uni-freiburg.de/pgp/frank.asc From Len.Hatfield@vt.edu Mon Mar 18 10:34:51 2002 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:34:52 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DADB92878D for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:34:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from lennier.cc.vt.edu (lennier.cc.vt.edu [198.82.162.213]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFAC11A08A5 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:32:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from steiner.cc.vt.edu (IDENT:mirapoint@steiner-lb.cc.vt.edu [10.1.1.14]) by lennier.cc.vt.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g2IGWWk123706 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:32:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from sid.vt.edu (h80ad2348.async.vt.edu [128.173.35.72]) by steiner.cc.vt.edu (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.1.0.48-EA) with ESMTP id AAX40592; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:32:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020318111955.00a42b00@mail.vt.edu> X-Sender: lhatfiel@mail.vt.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:35:59 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Len Hatfield Subject: [encore] A recurrent problem with "Generic Recorder" In-Reply-To: References: <87g02ynqbb.fsf@heisenberg.aston.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_85108529==_.ALT" X-archive-position: 439 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Len.Hatfield@vt.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Len.Hatfield@vt.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore --=====================_85108529==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi, I've been having an intermittent problem with the "Generic Recorder and Player" (Object #155) in the Educational Toolbox of our Encore 2.0b12 MOO. In many cases, it operates normally, turning on correctly, and upon shutting it off, the script asks about emailing the transcript, I do, and I receive a complete textual recording of the conversation. But the shutdown also offers me a URL inside the MOO where this transcript is recorded in HTML format, and when I view the HTML version, I find it truncated with the following error traceback: #32:execute_HTTP_request, line 77: Task ran out of ticks ... called from #32:do_login_command, line 11 (End of traceback) This seems to happen when I've a group of 10 or 12 participants in an online class; some will arrive late, and it looks like the log-in routine of the xPress Web Server (#32) somehow chokes the little recorder's html keeper. Have I missed a common patch, or is there some workaround anyone can suggest? Thanks in advance for your help! --=====================_85108529==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"



Hi,

I've been having an intermittent problem with the "Generic Recorder and Player" (Object #155) in the Educational Toolbox of our Encore 2.0b12 MOO.   In many cases, it operates normally, turning on correctly, and upon shutting it off, the script asks about emailing the transcript, I do, and I receive a complete textual recording of the conversation.  But the shutdown also offers me a URL inside the MOO where this transcript is recorded in HTML format, and when I view the HTML version, I find it truncated with the following error traceback:

        #32:execute_HTTP_request, line 77: Task ran out of ticks ...
            called from #32:do_login_command, line 11 (End of traceback)

This seems to happen when I've a group of 10 or 12 participants in an online class; some will arrive late, and it looks like the log-in routine of the xPress Web Server (#32) somehow chokes the little recorder's html keeper.

Have I missed a common patch, or is there some workaround anyone can suggest? 

Thanks in advance for your help!

 





 --=====================_85108529==_.ALT-- From lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Mon Mar 18 11:07:47 2002 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:07:47 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C53D2878D for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:07:46 -0600 (CST) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id CF4131A1739 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:05:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from GH208-LIRVIN.accdvm.accd.edu [10.11.14.204] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:05:09 CST Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020318110336.00a91940@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:04:48 -0600 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Lennie Irvin Subject: [encore] Re: Web interface for Asynchronous Discussion Groups Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 440 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore John, I had and have the same desire to incorporate a threaded discussion board into EnCore, and I wondered if just what you mentioned could be programmed. An easier solution for me (since I have no hope of programming this idea) was to incorporate a web hosted (free) discussion board into the MOO. I created a webnote with a link to the webboard. After much searching, the best and easiest webboard I found was through cgispy (http://www.cgispy.com). It is not perfect since it does not allow for a reply of a reply and the board itself can take no more than 300 messages (I have to periodically delete messages to keep under the 300 limit), but it works. I can create up to 10 different forums that are active at any one time. If you or anyone else knows of another discussion board forum that might work better (I would really like WebBoard but it cost too much), please let me know. If you want to peek at how the discussion board works, take a look at this webnote from within AlaMOO: http://ranger.accd.edu:7000/558/ Cheers, Lennie ***************************************************************************************************** At 10:06 AM 3/18/2002 +0000, you wrote: I was wondering if anyone had developed objects to enable the management of asynchronous discussion groups with a user friendly web interface for the encore Core. Basically, perhaps, a version of $mail_recipient with a Web presentation of the messages, with a web form for posting new messages and with a threaded presentation. I am interested in this as I currently use such systems outside the MOO but it would be cleaner if I could bring it inside and use the same authentication and access management for both MOO and discussion group. If this is something that is already done I would of course like to use it. If not it is something I will probably develop myself (but I don't want to reinvent the wheel). -- Dr. John A.R. Williams Photonics Research Group (http://www.ee.aston.ac.uk/research/photonics) Aston University (http://www.aston.ac.uk) PGP: http://www.ee.aston.ac.uk/research/photonics/members/willijar/about/key From Len.Hatfield@vt.edu Mon Mar 18 11:23:49 2002 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:23:50 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653A0288CA for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:23:47 -0600 (CST) Received: from lennier.cc.vt.edu (lennier.cc.vt.edu [198.82.162.213]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DC21A0543 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:21:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from steiner.cc.vt.edu (IDENT:mirapoint@steiner-lb.cc.vt.edu [10.1.1.14]) by lennier.cc.vt.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g2IHLTk139733 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:21:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from sid.vt.edu (h80ad2348.async.vt.edu [128.173.35.72]) by steiner.cc.vt.edu (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.1.0.48-EA) with ESMTP id AAX50821; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:21:26 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020318121505.009fa420@mail.vt.edu> X-Sender: lhatfiel@mail.vt.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 12:25:34 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Len Hatfield Subject: [encore] Re: "Generic Recorder" clarification In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020318105905.00af1dd0@accdvm.accd.edu> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020318111955.00a42b00@mail.vt.edu> <87g02ynqbb.fsf@heisenberg.aston.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_88083879==_.ALT" X-archive-position: 441 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Len.Hatfield@vt.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: Len.Hatfield@vt.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore --=====================_88083879==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hi, Lennie. Thanks for the follow-up question, and sorry I wasn't clear... >When you LOOK at you recorder, are you able to read the Note that contains >the transcript of the moo session (read or look >)? Can you read it through the MOO? Is the problem coming when >you enter the URL of the MOO note? I'm not sure if I can help, but I >wondered about how you were viewing the transcript. I've tried several ways to read the stored information: when I 'look' at room that holds the recorder, I then click on the recorder's link and the web-display window gives me its description and contents (which I've named by a date), and when I click on that contents-link, I get the truncated html transcript. This also happens when I type in the full url to this transcript, as you'd expect; and when I used the command line 'look' at the recorder and then looked at the content-object (named with its object number, #727), the html display was truncated. However, when I try to 'read #727' I get the full transcript in the text (not the web-display) window--and this is what was sent me by email, as well. This help at all? -- ...Len --=====================_88083879==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hi, Lennie.

Thanks for the follow-up question, and sorry I wasn't clear...

When you LOOK at you recorder, are you able to read the Note that contains the transcript of the moo session (read <notename> or look <notename>)?  Can you read it through the MOO?  Is the problem coming when you enter the URL of the MOO note?  I'm not sure if I can help, but I wondered about how you were viewing the transcript.


I've tried several ways to read the stored information: when I 'look' at room that holds the recorder, I then click on the recorder's link and the web-display window gives me its description and contents (which I've named by a date), and when I click on that contents-link, I get the truncated html transcript.  This also happens when I type in the full url to this transcript, as you'd expect; and when I used the command line 'look' at the recorder and then looked at the content-object (named with its object number, #727), the html display was truncated.

However, when I try to 'read #727' I get the full transcript in the text (not the web-display) window--and this is what was sent me by email, as well.

This help at all?

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                                                ...Len                                --=====================_88083879==_.ALT-- From herve@hawaii.edu Fri Mar 22 00:42:54 2002 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:42:55 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4073288A6 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:42:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from rapidash.its.hawaii.edu (rapidash.its.hawaii.edu [128.171.94.83]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AEE41A250D for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:40:31 -0600 (CST) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail.hawaii.edu by mail.hawaii.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) id <0GTD007013UJX2@mail.hawaii.edu>; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:40:30 -1000 (HST) Received: from herve.phys.hawaii.edu (herve.phys.hawaii.edu [128.171.11.114]) by mail.hawaii.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTPS id <0GTD0065D3VFZL@mail.hawaii.edu>; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:40:30 -1000 (HST) Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 20:41:13 -1000 (HST) From: rv Subject: [encore] Re: MOO International Patch X-X-Sender: herve@herve.phys.hawaii.edu To: enCore list Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-archive-position: 442 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: herve@hawaii.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: herve@hawaii.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Rob, Claudijo and Renee, I followed the same steps as you did using es_ES and it worked fine (well I guess it worked fine: I managed to type that neaty n with a wavy hat on its head). It also works fine for fr_FR so may be it's a system problem rather than a MOO problem? I dunno... If this can help, here is my config: redhat 7.1 MOO server 1.8.1 I believe it was also working when using redhat 7.0 (for fr_FR) Actually (for Renee) I also tried with three combined (for the fun of it and because I'm bored with life): es_ES, fr_FR and de_DE and all worked fine (but here again for de_DE I use those a and u with two dots on top; there are the only accented characters with the hatted n in ES that I could find using xkbmap). I hope this helps, Namárië, -rv, /-----------------------------------------\ MOOOOOooo...! @ http://moo.kcc.hawaii.edu / "A Túrin Turambar turun ambartanen", T. From rtk@stargate.net Sat Mar 23 08:48:03 2002 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 23 Mar 2002 08:48:04 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A02B288C6 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 08:48:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net (smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net [206.210.69.141]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C27A1A148A for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 08:45:38 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 13888 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2002 14:45:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO t4k7j9) (144.80.92.30) by smtp1.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 23 Mar 2002 14:45:34 -0000 From: "Rob Koch Jr." To: "enCore list" Subject: [encore] Verb Programming Question Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 09:54:32 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-archive-position: 443 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: rtk@stargate.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: rtk@stargate.net List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi all, How would I go about creating a verb in a room so that, when the room is entered, it would offer spoken text to the players? That is, players could actually step into a room in which the room itself might be showing a conversation taking place between voices who have been porgrammed as part of the room's function? I would also need to know how to create lapses of time between these built-in texts. (I'm thinking of the All in 1 room at Achieve -- Jason Nolan's I believe -- and I'd like to build something similar because of its usefulness and because I could use the programming practice.) Best, Rob From dilger@nwe.ufl.edu Sun Mar 24 11:51:27 2002 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:51:29 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A602876A for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:51:25 -0600 (CST) Received: from clas.ufl.edu (wraith.clas.ufl.edu [128.227.148.245]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9522A1A0F1E for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 11:49:00 -0600 (CST) X-Envelope-From: dilger@nwe.ufl.edu Received: from poe.clas.ufl.edu (poe.clas.ufl.edu [128.227.148.222]) by clas.ufl.edu (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2/clas1.11) with SMTP id g2OHmwr14544; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:48:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 12:48:57 -0500 (EST) From: Bradley Dilger X-Sender: dilger@poe.clas.ufl.edu To: "Rob Koch Jr." Cc: enCore list Subject: [encore] Re: Verb Programming Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 444 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: dilger@nwe.ufl.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: dilger@nwe.ufl.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore > How would I go about creating a verb in a room so that, when the > room is entered, it would offer spoken text to the players? That > is, players could actually step into a room in which the room itself > might be showing a conversation taking place between voices who have > been porgrammed as part of the room's function? I would also need > to know how to create lapses of time between these built-in texts. > (I'm thinking of the All in 1 room at Achieve -- Jason Nolan's I > believe -- and I'd like to build something similar because of its > usefulness and because I could use the programming practice.) I think if you tweak the room's 'tell' verb that can do what you want. You could also add an object to the room with the appropriate 'tell' verb -- in fact, I prefer that solution, because I don't like adding verbs to rooms, since recycling the room means I gotta copy off the verb (instead of picking up and moving the object). With 'suspend' you can make a verb pause. If you do this, make sure to set some sort of loop checking function so that a player who moves THROUGH a room (or pops in and out) doesn't get the text you offer. Something like: " start with a suspend to give the player a chance to read a bit "; suspend(3); if (player.location = this.location) " some talking code here "; suspend(5); " some more talking code here "; endif And actually, you might do something like the following, to make sure the player is still there after the second suspend: incr = 0; speech = {"Hello", "I send you this file", "to have your advice"}; while (player.location = this.location) player:notify(tostr(speech[incr])); inc = incr + 1; suspend(5); endwhile Note that I didn't check any of this code, but just typed it here; hopefully there aren't too many Perl-isms instead of MOO-isms :) But, the general ideas should work. best, cbd. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Bradley Dilger http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~dilger/ From bmcmanus@ix.netcom.com Mon Mar 25 21:10:36 2002 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:31:12 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08667288B9 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:10:35 -0600 (CST) Received: from blount.mail.mindspring.net (blount.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.226]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194771A0A7A for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 21:08:07 -0600 (CST) Received: from user-2ive7bf.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.29.111] helo=ix.netcom.com) by blount.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16phJe-0002ii-00 for encore@utdallas.edu; Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:08:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3C9FE62D.29B4B0A1@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 22:08:29 -0500 From: "Barbara F. McManus" Organization: College of New Rochelle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Encore Listserv Subject: [encore] XPress client Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 445 X-Approved-By: cynthiah@utdallas.edu X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: bmcmanus@ix.netcom.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: bmcmanus@ix.netcom.com List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore I am new to this list. I am co-director of the VRoma Project (www.vroma.org), which has been operating the VRoma educational MOO for several years. Our webbed MOO is a simulation of the city of ancient Rome for teachers and learners of Roman civilization and culture and the Latin language, who have found this a very valuable site. We have been using the Biogate MOO and CupoMud java client for our integrated interface but are planning to upgrade to enCore as soon as we have the time to ensure that we will not lose any of the key components of our virtual world in the process. One of the reasons for moving to enCore, besides its obvious superiority to Biogate for our purposes, is to improve access, since our client will not work with versions of Netscape above 4.70 (though we haven't yet tested it with 6.1); it also works poorly with many versions of IE. It is stated on the enCore web site that Xpress works with Netscape 4.08 and 6.1 for Windows; does it also work with 4.7+ Netscape browsers, since that seems to be what most computer labs these days are running? Like CupoMud, Xpress uses cookies for authentication. Does this mean that it cannot be used in schools that have a proxy server? That is definitely the case with our client, which causes many difficulties for pre-college teachers who want to use our site, since more and more schools are moving to proxy servers. Have any of you encountered this problem? I am really hoping that upgrading to enCore will solve at least some of our problems, and I would be extremely grateful for any advice that members of this listserv can give me. Best, Barbara McManus -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Barbara F. McManus, Professor of Classics Emerita The College of New Rochelle, New Rochelle, NY 10805 or http://www.cnr.edu/home/bmcmanus/ http://www.vroma.org/~bmcmanus/ From jason.nolan@utoronto.ca Thu Mar 28 14:25:02 2002 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 28 Mar 2002 14:25:03 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57159288A6 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 14:25:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca (bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca [128.100.132.16]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF57C1A09E7 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 14:22:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from envvirtual.forestry.utoronto.ca ([128.100.163.131] EHLO [128.100.163.131] ident: IDENT-NOT-QUERIED [port 50167]) by bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca with ESMTP id <239885-11834>; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:22:20 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: jason.nolan@mailbox91.utcc.utoronto.ca Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3C9FE62D.29B4B0A1@ix.netcom.com> References: <3C9FE62D.29B4B0A1@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:14:57 -0500 To: Encore Mailing List From: JASON NOLAN Subject: [encore] Re: XPress client Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-archive-position: 446 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jason.nolan@utoronto.ca Precedence: bulk Reply-to: jason.nolan@utoronto.ca List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore You may want to do what we have done with project achieve, which is to install Xpress over your existing database, rather than porting everything to the encore.db itself. You can also install your own java applet, if you'd like. I don't know the status of MOOtcan, Encore's java applet, but last I heard Jan was getting it up to date according to MacOSX/IE. We're doing the same with our Java Applet at the moment. Best of luck. Jason >I am new to this list. I am co-director of the VRoma Project >(www.vroma.org), which has been operating the VRoma educational MOO for >several years. Our webbed MOO is a simulation of the city of ancient >Rome for teachers and learners of Roman civilization and culture and the >Latin language, who have found this a very valuable site. We have been >using the Biogate MOO and CupoMud java client for our integrated >interface but are planning to upgrade to enCore as soon as we have the >time to ensure that we will not lose any of the key components of our >virtual world in the process. > >One of the reasons for moving to enCore, besides its obvious superiority >to Biogate for our purposes, is to improve access, since our client will >not work with versions of Netscape above 4.70 (though we haven't yet >tested it with 6.1); it also works poorly with many versions of IE. It >is stated on the enCore web site that Xpress works with Netscape 4.08 >and 6.1 for Windows; does it also work with 4.7+ Netscape browsers, >since that seems to be what most computer labs these days are running? > >Like CupoMud, Xpress uses cookies for authentication. Does this mean >that it cannot be used in schools that have a proxy server? That is >definitely the case with our client, which causes many difficulties for >pre-college teachers who want to use our site, since more and more >schools are moving to proxy servers. Have any of you encountered this >problem? > >I am really hoping that upgrading to enCore will solve at least some of >our problems, and I would be extremely grateful for any advice that >members of this listserv can give me. Best, Barbara McManus >-- >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Barbara F. McManus, Professor of Classics Emerita >The College of New Rochelle, New Rochelle, NY 10805 > or >http://www.cnr.edu/home/bmcmanus/ >http://www.vroma.org/~bmcmanus/ -- Jason Nolan PhD Scholar in Residence, Knowledge Media Design Institute University of Toronto http://achieve.utoronto.ca/jason/ (416)978-5656/3884f ICQ: 6238593