From mlamarcus@eurekanet.com Mon Dec 3 15:38:36 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 03 Dec 2001 15:38:36 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56114288C8 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 15:38:34 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail4.mx.voyager.net (mail4.mx.voyager.net [216.93.66.203]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727FC1A043D for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 15:38:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from [209.239.136.182] ([209.239.136.182]) by mail4.mx.voyager.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id fB3LbN674415 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:37:23 -0500 (EST) User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 18:35:29 -0800 Subject: [encore] Re: LambdaMOO + Encore + Shockwave? From: Emily Marcus To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-archive-position: 355 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: mlamarcus@eurekanet.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Claudia, We did the campus maps in Flash, and there is sound in the beginning. The moo is at http://popper.citl.ohiou.edu:7000/ all the best, Emily Marcus Ohio University CITL > From: "Claudijo Borovic" > Reply-To: encore@utdallas.edu > Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 16:00:52 +0100 > To: encore@utdallas.edu > Subject: [encore] LambdaMOO + Encore + Shockwave? >=20 > I am wondering if any of you have seen or made something interesting that > incorperates Macromedia=B4s Shockwave together with the LambdaMOO server an= d > enCore Xpress? Such as changing parameters in a shockwave movie via the > moo interface. How could that be done in other ways than just sending dat= a > with 'get' or 'post'? >=20 > Best regards >=20 > c l a u d i j o b o r o v i c =B7 project coordinator > ______________________________________________________ > s t o c k h o l m u n i v e r s i t y | Department of Education > Multimedia | e d u c a t i o n & t e c h n o l o g y 1 2 0 p >=20 > =A0=A0=A0|||| address Utbildningsv=E4gen 3 | Box 105 | SE-147 22 Tumba | Sweden > =A0=A0=A0|||| phone +46 (0)8 530 623 92 | cell +46 (0)709 328 479 > =A0=A0=A0|||| email claudijo.borovic@mmedu.net > =A0=A0=A0|||| www.mmedu.net >=20 >=20 >=20 From llk@mail.utexas.edu Wed Dec 5 12:33:25 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 05 Dec 2001 12:33:26 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B193288A6 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:33:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail.utexas.edu (wb2-a.mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.136]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 19B431A10C4 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:33:22 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 10139 invoked by uid 0); 5 Dec 2001 18:33:21 -0000 Received: from barthelme.cwrl.utexas.edu (HELO ?128.83.125.100?) (128.83.125.100) by umbs-smtp-2 with SMTP; 5 Dec 2001 18:33:21 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:33:21 -0600 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Laura Kramarsky Subject: [encore] changing verb ownership Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-archive-position: 356 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: llk@mail.utexas.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hiya folks! Does anyone know how to change the owner of a verb? Since verbs don't appear to have numbers the way properties do (or, if they do, I'd really appreciate it if someone could tell me how to figure out what they are), I cannot just use chown.... Thanks! Laura Kramarsky -- Laura Kramarsky The Computer Writing and Research Lab The University of Texas at Austin "Remember boys, this is America. Just because you get more votes, doesn't mean you win." (The X-Files, 4/8/01) From rmazar@chass.utoronto.ca Wed Dec 5 12:42:03 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 05 Dec 2001 12:42:04 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52861288A6 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:42:02 -0600 (CST) Received: from tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts20.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.74]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0197E1A02D5 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:41:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from [65.92.81.202] by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011205184155.BFKK25459.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@[65.92.81.202]> for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 13:41:55 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: b1mqih64@POP6.sympatico.ca Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 13:41:24 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Rochelle Mazar Subject: [encore] Re: changing verb ownership Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-archive-position: 357 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: rmazar@chass.utoronto.ca Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore You should be able to chown a verb like so: @chown obj:verbname to character The verb doesn't have a number, but it's designation is always obj:verbname. The same is true for props. (@chown obj.propname to character) Possibly straight encore doesn't work this way? Hildegarde >Hiya folks! > >Does anyone know how to change the owner of a verb? Since verbs >don't appear to have numbers the way properties do (or, if they do, >I'd really appreciate it if someone could tell me how to figure out >what they are), I cannot just use chown.... > >Thanks! > >Laura Kramarsky >-- >Laura Kramarsky >The Computer Writing and Research Lab >The University of Texas at Austin > >"Remember boys, this is America. Just because you get more votes, >doesn't mean you win." (The X-Files, 4/8/01) From herve@hawaii.edu Wed Dec 5 12:48:21 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 05 Dec 2001 12:48:22 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67CF6288A6 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:48:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from m2.hawaii.edu (m2.hawaii.edu [128.171.94.30]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 142971A0839 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:48:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.m2.hawaii.edu by m2.hawaii.edu (PMDF V6.0-24 #38439) id <0GNV00701W8E6Z@m2.hawaii.edu>; Wed, 05 Dec 2001 08:48:15 -1000 (HST) Received: from uhunix2.its.hawaii.edu (uhunix2.its.hawaii.edu [128.171.44.7]) by m2.hawaii.edu (PMDF V6.0-24 #38439) with ESMTP id <0GNV004LIW8E1H@m2.hawaii.edu>; Wed, 05 Dec 2001 08:48:14 -1000 (HST) Received: from localhost (herve@localhost) by uhunix2.its.hawaii.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA29487 for ; Wed, 05 Dec 2001 08:48:13 -1000 (HST) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 08:48:13 -1000 (HST) From: rv Subject: [encore] Re: changing verb ownership In-reply-to: X-X-Sender: To: encore@utdallas.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-warning: uhunix2.its.hawaii.edu: herve owned process doing -bs X-archive-position: 358 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: herve@hawaii.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore > Does anyone know how to change the owner of a verb? Since verbs > don't appear to have numbers the way properties do (or, if they do, > I'd really appreciate it if someone could tell me how to figure out > what they are), I cannot just use chown.... Laura, @chown obj:verb to newowner (help @chown) why can't you just use @chown? (may be I misunderstood, sorry..) Aloha, -rv, "A Turin Turambar turun ambartanen" From egoff@mindspring.com Wed Dec 5 15:10:10 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 05 Dec 2001 15:10:11 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17074288A8 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:10:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.60]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0171A112B for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:10:08 -0600 (CST) Received: from user-2ivesle.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.114.174] helo=master) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16BjIt-0002q2-00 for encore@utdallas.edu; Wed, 05 Dec 2001 16:10:07 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20011205160631.00d66b88@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: egoff@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 16:06:31 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Edward Goff Subject: [encore] Re: LambdaMOO + Encore + Shockwave? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-archive-position: 359 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: egoff@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Now this sounds interesting and exciting. Let me know what you come up with. At 04:00 PM 12/3/2001 +0100, Claudijo Borovic wrote: >I am wondering if any of you have seen or made something interesting that >incorperates Macromedia=B4s Shockwave together with the LambdaMOO server= and >enCore Xpress? Such as changing parameters in a shockwave movie via the >moo interface. How could that be done in other ways than just sending data >with 'get' or 'post'? > >Best regards > >c l a u d i j o b o r o v i c =B7 project coordinator=20 >______________________________________________________ >s t o c k h o l m u n i v e r s i t y | Department of Education >Multimedia | e d u c a t i o n & t e c h n o l o g y 1 2 0 p > >=A0=A0=A0|||| address Utbildningsv=E4gen 3 | Box 105 | SE-147 22 Tumba |= Sweden >=A0=A0=A0|||| phone +46 (0)8 530 623 92 | cell +46 (0)709 328 479 >=A0=A0=A0|||| email claudijo.borovic@mmedu.net >=A0=A0=A0|||| www.mmedu.net > > > From egoff@mindspring.com Wed Dec 5 15:13:56 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 05 Dec 2001 15:13:57 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8B4288A8 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:13:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.60]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D021A1138 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:13:53 -0600 (CST) Received: from user-2ivesle.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.114.174] helo=master) by hall.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16BjMW-0003wm-00; Wed, 05 Dec 2001 16:13:52 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20011205161417.00d7bd18@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: egoff@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 16:14:17 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu, From: Edward Goff Subject: [encore] Re: LambdaMOO + Encore + Shockwave? In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-archive-position: 360 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: egoff@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Very sweet. I like it alot.=20 You know, that is something I'd like to see maybe. A web site or even a list that pops up now and then. A "showing" of the knowledge and skills others have put into there ENCORE moo projects. This site has done some wonderful things with there flash animation. At 06:35 PM 12/3/2001 -0800, Emily Marcus wrote: >Claudia, > >We did the campus maps in Flash, and there is sound in the beginning. The >moo is at http://popper.citl.ohiou.edu:7000/ > >all the best, >Emily Marcus >Ohio University CITL > >> From: "Claudijo Borovic" >> Reply-To: encore@utdallas.edu >> Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 16:00:52 +0100 >> To: encore@utdallas.edu >> Subject: [encore] LambdaMOO + Encore + Shockwave? >>=20 >> I am wondering if any of you have seen or made something interesting that >> incorperates Macromedia=B4s Shockwave together with the LambdaMOO server= and >> enCore Xpress? Such as changing parameters in a shockwave movie via the >> moo interface. How could that be done in other ways than just sending= data >> with 'get' or 'post'? >>=20 >> Best regards >>=20 >> c l a u d i j o b o r o v i c =B7 project coordinator >> ______________________________________________________ >> s t o c k h o l m u n i v e r s i t y | Department of Education >> Multimedia | e d u c a t i o n & t e c h n o l o g y 1 2 0 p >>=20 >> =A0=A0=A0|||| address Utbildningsv=E4gen 3 | Box 105 | SE-147 22 Tumba |= Sweden >> =A0=A0=A0|||| phone +46 (0)8 530 623 92 | cell +46 (0)709 328 479 >> =A0=A0=A0|||| email claudijo.borovic@mmedu.net >> =A0=A0=A0|||| www.mmedu.net >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 > > > From llk@mail.utexas.edu Wed Dec 5 18:21:53 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 05 Dec 2001 18:21:54 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2A29288A6 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 18:21:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail.utexas.edu (wb2-a.mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.136]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id D272C1A11CB for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 18:21:49 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 21297 invoked by uid 0); 6 Dec 2001 00:21:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.1.15?) (66.25.169.137) by umbs-smtp-2 with SMTP; 6 Dec 2001 00:21:49 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 18:21:48 -0600 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Laura Kramarsky Subject: [encore] Re: changing verb ownership (thanks!) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-archive-position: 361 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: llk@mail.utexas.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Thanks to all for the quick assistance! -Laura > > Does anyone know how to change the owner of a verb? Since verbs >> don't appear to have numbers the way properties do (or, if they do, >> I'd really appreciate it if someone could tell me how to figure out >> what they are), I cannot just use chown.... > >Laura, >@chown obj:verb to newowner >(help @chown) > >why can't you just use @chown? (may be I misunderstood, sorry..) >Aloha, >-rv, > >"A Turin Turambar turun ambartanen" -- From lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Tue Dec 11 14:20:06 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:20:06 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935C6288A3 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:20:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id CEB9D1A0E77 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:19:54 -0600 (CST) Received: from gh208-lirvin [10.11.14.170] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:19:48 CDT Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20011211141442.009f6480@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:14:42 -0600 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Subject: [encore] text hyperlinks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-archive-position: 362 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore I was wondering if you know if it is possible to have hyperlinks appear in the text side of an EnCore MOO. I'm thinking of this ability which I have seen in a JH Core MOO (Connections), and I was wondering if the Encore MOO core could do it too? I'm familiar with the @url command. I was thinking of using a bot to spout out some resource links that a student could click on directly. Thanks, Lennie ____________________________________________ L.Lennie Irvin San Antonio College Department of English Office-phone: GH 208, (210)733-2522 Email: Lirvin@accd.edu Webpage: http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/lirvin.htm AlaMOO: http://ranger.accd.edu:7000 From jason.nolan@utoronto.ca Tue Dec 11 14:35:20 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:35:21 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0EF3288A3 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:35:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca (bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca [128.100.132.16]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5DE1A08BF for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:35:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from envvirtual.forestry.utoronto.ca ([128.100.163.131] EHLO [10.0.1.2] ident: IDENT-NOT-QUERIED [port 50929]) by bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca with ESMTP id <241759-23565>; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:34:39 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: jason.nolan@mailbox91.utcc.utoronto.ca Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20011211141442.009f6480@accdvm.accd.edu> References: <3.0.6.32.20011211141442.009f6480@accdvm.accd.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 15:31:33 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: JASON NOLAN Subject: [encore] Re: text hyperlinks Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-archive-position: 363 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jason.nolan@utoronto.ca Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Cool idea. I don't know what Jan has in terms of plans in that direction for MOOtcan, but I'll put it on Dave's plate for revisions to MOOcaJava, and see if it is doable. >I was wondering if you know if it is possible to have hyperlinks appear in >the text side of an EnCore MOO. I'm thinking of this ability which I have >seen in a JH Core MOO (Connections), and I was wondering if the Encore MOO >core could do it too? > >I'm familiar with the @url command. I was thinking of using a bot to spout >out some resource links that a student could click on directly. > >Thanks, > >Lennie >____________________________________________ >L.Lennie Irvin >San Antonio College Department of English >Office-phone: GH 208, (210)733-2522 >Email: Lirvin@accd.edu >Webpage: http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/lirvin.htm >AlaMOO: http://ranger.accd.edu:7000 -- Jason Nolan PhD Scholar in Residence, Knowledge Media Design Institute University of Toronto http://achieve.utoronto.ca/jason (416)978-5656/3884f ICQ: 6238593 From tb0mxd1@corn.cso.niu.edu Sat Dec 15 15:13:28 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 15 Dec 2001 15:13:28 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0803288A1 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 15:13:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2651A0334 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 15:13:17 -0600 (CST) Received: (from tb0mxd1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) id fBFLDGZ24744 for encore@nobel.utdallas.edu; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 15:13:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 15:13:16 -0600 (CST) From: day michael Message-Id: <200112152113.fBFLDGZ24744@corn.cso.niu.edu> To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] help preparing/transferring MediaMOO X-archive-position: 364 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: tb0mxd1@corn.cso.niu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi all, I've been promising Amy Bruckman for about a year now that I would get MediaMOO moved out here to Northern Illinois U. Earlier this year we tried to set up a Red Hat linux machine. We put it online but had such a big security hole that we had to take it down. Now we're out of time and don't have lots of time to learn how to correctly tweak the linux box. Can anyone recommend a simple windows based solution for running a basic lambda core MOO? And is anyone on the list close enough (we're 60 miles west of Chicago) that we could get some help (we would dig up funds to pay for it) setting up the machine and making the transfer? Or by phone or moo consulting? I know it's a tall order, but I have got to keep my word and keep MediaMOO alive. Thanks, Michael Day From jason.nolan@utoronto.ca Sat Dec 15 15:40:08 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 15 Dec 2001 15:40:08 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1B5288A1 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 15:40:06 -0600 (CST) Received: from tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts7.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.40]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422A61A09D8 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 15:40:05 -0600 (CST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([64.229.134.133]) by tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20011215214002.MEFF496.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@[10.0.1.2]> for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 16:40:02 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: jason.nolan@mailbox91.utcc.utoronto.ca Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200112152113.fBFLDGZ24744@corn.cso.niu.edu> References: <200112152113.fBFLDGZ24744@corn.cso.niu.edu> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 16:39:55 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: JASON NOLAN Subject: [encore] Re: help preparing/transferring MediaMOO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-archive-position: 365 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jason.nolan@utoronto.ca Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore The only thing I can suggest for cleaning up the Linux box is to use a fresh version and turn everything off except httpd ssh and scp... no ftp, telnet, or anything. Should be able to do that in the GUI. Windows is just its own securityhole fest in itself, right? J >Hi all, > >I've been promising Amy Bruckman for about a year now that I would >get MediaMOO moved out here to Northern Illinois U. Earlier this >year we tried to set up a Red Hat linux machine. We put it online >but had such a big security hole that we had to take it down. Now >we're out of time and don't have lots of time to learn how to >correctly tweak the linux box. Can anyone recommend a simple windows >based solution for running a basic lambda core MOO? And is >anyone on the list close enough (we're 60 miles west of Chicago) >that we could get some help (we would dig up funds to pay for it) >setting up the machine and making the transfer? Or by phone or >moo consulting? I know it's a tall order, but I have got to >keep my word and keep MediaMOO alive. > >Thanks, > >Michael Day From dilger@nwe.ufl.edu Sat Dec 15 22:21:35 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 15 Dec 2001 22:21:35 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21825288A1 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 22:21:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from clas.ufl.edu (fury.clas.ufl.edu [128.227.148.247]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3E21A0805 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 22:21:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from poe.clas.ufl.edu (poe.clas.ufl.edu [128.227.148.222]) by clas.ufl.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1/dna) with SMTP id XAA29867 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 23:21:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 23:21:26 -0500 (EST) From: Bradley Dilger X-Sender: dilger@poe.clas.ufl.edu To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: help preparing/transferring MediaMOO In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 366 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: dilger@nwe.ufl.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hey MDay, Regarding windows or linux moo: WinMOO is what you want? I've never used it -- but it's at http://www.stanford.edu/~cunkel/WinMOO/ I'm not sure why Linux is a huge problem. Install the latest version of your favorite distribution, bring it up to date with whatever tools are supplied with the system (for RedHat, rpm works pretty well; for Debian, apt is the bomb), keep an eye out for new security patches, and away you go. Pay $30 for CDs and you get to call RedHat (or whoever) and have them help you through this. Every OS is going to work this way -- whether you pick MacOS, OS/2, Linux, Windows, or semaphore, there's no escaping the need to keep your system up to date. That's just part of offering publicly available services. Switching OS just switches the problems you'll have. Maybe your IT people are better equipped to deal with Windows security -- fine. Then go with Windows. But, you'll still need to keep things up to date. Also: I'd install some kind of firewall (for Linux, I like pmfirewall, an ipchains or iptables configuration script) or configure your upstream router to allow access ONLY to the ports needed for your httpd and moo server. For my Linux boxes at home, I allow SSH and SCP from and to trusted hosts only. For the NWE MOO server, the only ports open to the outside world are those which are associated with the MOO. You might try Bastille Linux if you're looking for a security-oriented Linux distribution. hth, cbd. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Bradley Dilger http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~dilger/ From tb0mxd1@corn.cso.niu.edu Sat Dec 15 23:57:00 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 15 Dec 2001 23:57:01 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1779288A1 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 23:56:59 -0600 (CST) Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A771A00B9 for ; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 23:56:55 -0600 (CST) Received: (from tb0mxd1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) id fBG5usE08515 for encore@utdallas.edu; Sat, 15 Dec 2001 23:56:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 23:56:54 -0600 (CST) From: day michael Message-Id: <200112160556.fBG5usE08515@corn.cso.niu.edu> To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: help preparing/transferring MediaMOO X-archive-position: 367 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: tb0mxd1@corn.cso.niu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore A big thanks to all of you who answered my requests. I am proud to be able to say that I actually understand about half of the terms and acronyms, but sad to say that I'm not quite there on the techie level. I went to look at some of Pavel's documents, for example the MOO programmer's guide, but they were way above me. And yet I don't really need an introduction to MOO, what I really need to know is more about the pieces to the linux OS and the MOO server and db, and how they all fit together, so I wonder if there is any advanced beginner or intermediate reading you could recommend (beyond MOOniversity, which is excellent) on any of the above. As far as a crash course, what can you recommend for someone without much time? Thanks again! Michael Day From jamie@fusionwebs.com Sun Dec 16 04:04:43 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 16 Dec 2001 04:04:44 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C144C288A1 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 04:04:42 -0600 (CST) Received: from server73.secure-trust.net (unknown [64.28.107.91]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E0B81A0B41 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 04:04:36 -0600 (CST) Received: from buxo [212.51.61.14] by server73.secure-trust.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id A20B84600DC; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 18:06:03 +0800 From: "Jamie Fowlie" To: "Encore" Subject: [encore] Newbie Installation Question Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 11:04:55 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-archive-position: 368 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jamie@fusionwebs.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore I am an educator & part-time internet company looking to introduce MOO to educators here in spain. I have been here five years and haven't met anyone (even in computer sciences!) who KNOWS what a MUD or MOO is... I have the luxury of having access and configuration to my own server(s)- with fibre optic cable connections. I have an NT/IIS server installed and running and a Linux-Mandrake behind almost ready to run. My question is, not being, like many others out there, a LINUX programmer... Can I set up encore moo to run efficiently in my NT server or should I create a portmap to the mandrake and run it off of apache/linux under a separate port? Also: what are the possibilities of creating a 'translation' table of verbs/actions so that a use can use spanish words to create the same events in the english core db? or am I way out of my league here! Thanks, in advance, for any suggestions. Jamie Fowlie University of La Coruńa, Spain From Lirvin@ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU Sun Dec 16 06:20:57 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:20:58 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518C4288A1 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:20:55 -0600 (CST) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B5D31A0757 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:20:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from Ir191470 [10.1.11.29] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 06:20:45 CDT From: "Lennie Irvin" To: Subject: [encore] Re: Newbie Installation Question Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 07:28:45 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-archive-position: 369 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Lirvin@accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Jamie, We run AlaMOO on an NT/IIS server, so it is possible. I have a crude compilation of help files for doing the installation if you would like to have it. Everything I have heard, though, points to Linux being a better option. I had no option except to use NT because the IT people here are in bed with Microsoft products. Tenga buena suerta, Lennie Irvin -----Original Message----- From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu]On Behalf Of Jamie Fowlie Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 2:05 AM To: Encore Subject: [encore] Newbie Installation Question I am an educator & part-time internet company looking to introduce MOO to educators here in spain. I have been here five years and haven't met anyone (even in computer sciences!) who KNOWS what a MUD or MOO is... I have the luxury of having access and configuration to my own server(s)- with fibre optic cable connections. I have an NT/IIS server installed and running and a Linux-Mandrake behind almost ready to run. My question is, not being, like many others out there, a LINUX programmer... Can I set up encore moo to run efficiently in my NT server or should I create a portmap to the mandrake and run it off of apache/linux under a separate port? Also: what are the possibilities of creating a 'translation' table of verbs/actions so that a use can use spanish words to create the same events in the english core db? or am I way out of my league here! Thanks, in advance, for any suggestions. Jamie Fowlie University of La Coruqa, Spain From egoff@mindspring.com Sun Dec 16 11:02:13 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 16 Dec 2001 11:02:14 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A9E9288A1 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 11:02:11 -0600 (CST) Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (mclean.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.57]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022B61A0795 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 11:02:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from user-2ivet8s.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.117.28] helo=master) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Fefy-0006iT-00; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:02:10 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20011216120146.00d74d40@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: egoff@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:01:46 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu, encore@utdallas.edu From: Edward Goff Subject: [encore] Re: ./restart-problems In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-archive-position: 370 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: egoff@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Dec 10 11:42:55: *** PARSER: Error in #131:control: Dec 10 11:42:55: *** Line 7: parse error Dec 10 11:42:55: *** READ_DB_FILE: Unparsable program #131:29. There is there error. What is causing it, I'm not sure other than what it tells us already. What is #131? What is it attempting to do. If your on a *nix box you can do the following set of commands. Change to your moo directory ./moo -e yourmoo.db yourmoo.db.new yourmooport This will let you into the moo in emergency mode. You'll have to then, depending upon your skill level, rename the verb temporarliy and see if it restarts correctly. All the way to actually fixing the error. From egoff@mindspring.com Sun Dec 16 11:04:04 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 16 Dec 2001 11:04:05 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59207288A1 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 11:04:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (mclean.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.57]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2F31A07A3 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 11:04:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from user-2ivet8s.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.117.28] helo=master) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Fehn-0001nb-00; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:04:03 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20011216120342.00d74d40@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: egoff@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:03:42 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu, "Encore" From: Edward Goff Subject: [encore] Re: Newbie Installation Question In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-archive-position: 371 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: egoff@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Well since most of your questions were already answered in the previous message. I'l answer this one. Can you use spanish? Yes, a friend wrote a whole new language DB so that the moo let you "see it" and "use it" in Japanese or English. Possible yes. Hard, Hell yes. :) But what are we here for eh? :) >Also: what are the possibilities of creating a 'translation' table of >verbs/actions so that a use can use spanish words to create the same events >in the english core db? or am I way out of my league here! > >Thanks, in advance, for any suggestions. > >Jamie Fowlie >University of La Coru=F1a, Spain > > > From herve@hawaii.edu Sun Dec 16 18:29:27 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 16 Dec 2001 18:29:28 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F06288A1 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 18:29:26 -0600 (CST) Received: from m2.hawaii.edu (m2.hawaii.edu [128.171.94.30]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5BE1A03A4 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 18:29:17 -0600 (CST) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.m2.hawaii.edu by m2.hawaii.edu (PMDF V6.0-24 #38439) id <0GOG00901PCRGO@m2.hawaii.edu>; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 14:29:15 -1000 (HST) Received: from herve.phys.hawaii.edu (herve.phys.hawaii.edu [128.171.11.114]) by m2.hawaii.edu (PMDF V6.0-24 #38439) with ESMTP id <0GOG0076KPCRF1@m2.hawaii.edu>; Sun, 16 Dec 2001 14:29:15 -1000 (HST) Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 14:32:56 -1000 (HST) From: rv Subject: [encore] Re: ./restart-problems In-reply-to: <3.0.6.32.20011216120146.00d74d40@pop.mindspring.com> X-X-Sender: To: encore@utdallas.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-archive-position: 372 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: herve@hawaii.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore > ./moo -e yourmoo.db yourmoo.db.new yourmooport > > This will let you into the moo in emergency mode. You'll have to then, > depending upon your skill level, rename the verb temporarliy and see if it > restarts correctly. All the way to actually fixing the error. Backup your Database before running the server with -e Once you get to the prompt that will look like: ---> LambdaMOO Emergency Holographic Wizard Mode ------------------------------------------- "Please state the nature of the wizardly emergency..." (Type `help' for assistance.) ** Now running emergency commands as #2 ... MOO (#2): ---> Type: list #131:control Copy and paste that bugger so that you can retreive it later. Then nuke the verb: program #131:control . And type: continue To finish off the loading of the db. See what's up. If hopefully, the db is loaded successfully, then log to it as usual through your favorite MOO client and troubleshoot the problem. This is what is available when running -e: ---> ;EXPR Evaluate MOO expression, print result. ;;CODE Execute whole MOO verb, print result. (For above, omitting EXPR or CODE lets you enter several lines of input at once; type a period alone on a line to finish.) program OBJ:VERB Set the MOO code of an existing verb. list OBJ:VERB List the MOO code of an existing verb. disassemble OBJ:VERB List the internal form of an existing verb. debug Toggle evaluation with(out) `d' bit. wizard #XX Execute future commands as wizard #XX. continue End emergency mode, continue start-up. quit Exit server normally, saving database. abort Exit server *without* saving database. help, ? Print this text. NOTE: *NO* forked or suspended tasks will run until you exit this mode. ---> Oh, and don't use & You wanna hold the leash when using -e ;) Namárië, -rv, /-----------------------------------------\ MOOOOOooo...! @ http://moo.kcc.hawaii.edu / "A Túrin Turambar turum ambartanen", T. From egoff@mindspring.com Mon Dec 17 08:11:16 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:11:17 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DD1D288A8 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:11:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (mclean.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.57]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8D61A08B0 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 08:11:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from user-2ivet9a.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.117.42] helo=master) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16FyU1-0006nY-00; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:11:10 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20011217091038.00d42b08@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: egoff@pop.mindspring.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 09:10:38 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu, encore@utdallas.edu From: Edward Goff Subject: [encore] Re: ./restart-problems In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.6.32.20011216120146.00d74d40@pop.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-archive-position: 373 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: egoff@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Thanks for putting the rest of that in. I didn't have a copy of the moo to put up in emergency mode when I sent the email. Also something to note. When using .db and .db.new The .db can be attempted as well since it will be from the last restart VS the last checkpoint which is the .db.new Losing a bit of data VS a whole moo is sometimes the way to go.=20 >Oh, and don't use & >You wanna hold the leash when using -e ;) > >Nam=E1ri=EB, >-rv,=20 > >/-----------------------------------------\ >MOOOOOooo...! @ http://moo.kcc.hawaii.edu / >"A T=FArin Turambar turum ambartanen", T. > > > > From tb0mxd1@corn.cso.niu.edu Mon Dec 17 14:03:17 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:03:18 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA5E288A8 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:03:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from corn.cso.niu.edu (corn.cso.niu.edu [131.156.1.37]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 470F51A0BBE for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:03:07 -0600 (CST) Received: (from tb0mxd1@localhost) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) id fBHK34E02350 for encore@nobel.utdallas.edu; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:03:04 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:03:04 -0600 (CST) From: day michael Message-Id: <200112172003.fBHK34E02350@corn.cso.niu.edu> To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] linux issues X-archive-position: 374 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: tb0mxd1@corn.cso.niu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi all, I just got the detailed report on what happened the first time I tried to build the linux machine and put it on line. In the incident report, it was called an LPRng exploit attempt, and the activity was "Standard escalation email sent to: postmaster@niu.edu" I am attaching the thread in which the sysadmin describes the event and suggests what to do. I am assuming that all of this will be prevented by following all the security tips you so generously provided, but I want to make sure I am not overlooking something. I have a new box, and am about to start afresh, with Angelo Bonadonna's help (hooray Angelo!). Thanks, Michael From nwr@niu.edu Mon Dec 17 13:40:29 2001 X-UIDL: &b5e9F&T!!A-He9pLJe9 Received: from niu.edu (ip-077-161.admin.niu.edu [131.156.77.161]) by corn.cso.niu.edu (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id fBHJeR100662 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:40:28 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3C1E4A6F.2050305@niu.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 13:41:35 -0600 From: Eric Hoffman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011011 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mday@niu.edu Subject: [Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: network abuse report: incident # 11959] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3737 Status: RO -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Fwd: network abuse report: incident # 11959 Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 09:27:55 -0500 From: "Jason Richardson" To: CC: One more thing Eric. Until you get the machine secured, it would probably be best to pull it from the network - especially going into the weekend. Thanks, Jason >>> Eric Hoffman 07/13/01 09:21 AM >>> Jason, Thanks for the suggestion, and I will happily take you up on your offer to assess our security after we get things reinstalled and ready to launch. I'll be in touch with Dan and/or Scott as I restart this process. Thanks again for your help. -Eric Hoffman Jason Richardson wrote: > Eric, Eric Behr is an excellent resource. Feel free to call on Dan > Szkola or Scott Corn of our department for any additional assistance if > you need it. > > My experience with Linux indicates that you would almost be better off > reinstalling the OS and running a hardening program such as Bastille > immediately after the OS is installed. Afterwards you can contact us > and we will do a vulnerability assessment on the machine and let you > know whether is sufficiently secure to remain on the network. > > Thanks, > > >>> Eric Hoffman 07/12/01 13:13 PM >>> > > All, > > Well, I finally found the culprit. One of the faculty in the department > has > requested to build a linux server with my questionable aid. We just > started to > build it last week, and apparently, got just far enough in the process > to open a > big security hole. > > I have taken that machine off the network and found a patch for the > problem on > the Linux site. I'll make sure to talk to the faculty member in question > and > we'll make sure that we keep big gaping security holes to a minimum (we > can help > help from Eric behr, I think, but let me know if there's anyone else > that y'all > can recommen to advise on a Rehat linux 7.0 server build. > > Sorry for the mess ;-( > > -Eric Hoffman > > Eric Hoffman wrote: > > > Subject: Re: Fwd: network abuse report: incident # 11959 > > Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 08:05:29 -0500 > > From: "Jason Richardson" > > To: "Nancy Finn" , > > "Eric Hoffman" > > CC: "Herb Kuryliw" , > > "Randy Rynkewicz" < > > > > > Nancy and Eric, apparently this system is being ued to attack network > > printing devices. Please see attached. > > > > Thanks, > > > > --- > > Jason Richardson > > Network Security and Equipment Manager > > Enterprise Systems Support > > Northern Illinois University > > Voice: 815-753-1678 > > Fax: 815-753-2555 > > jasrich@niu.edu > > > > >>> Nancy Finn 07/10/01 03:55PM >>> > > Hi Eric, > > > > Do you have an IP address of 131.156.77.46 in any of your labs? I do > > not have any info in my database for this address and the MAC > addresses > > close to that address are PCs that are on 486 or P/75 systems which we > > really do not have record of anymore. > > > > Also did you get a call from Amy Neuman? Her IP is coded somewhere in > > RH so she cannot get into Netscape as she is receiving a IP conflict > > error. She is 131.156.77.151. > > > > Any info at is helpful. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Nancy > > > > ****************************************** > > Nancy Finn > > College of Liberal Arts & Science > > Northern Illinois University > > Information Technology Coordinator > > DeKalb, IL 60115 > > 815-753-2955 > > nfinn@niu.edu > > ****************************************** > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Detail Events by Source IP.htmName: Detail Events by Source IP.htm > > Type: Hypertext Markup Language > (text/html) From lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Tue Dec 18 12:05:57 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:05:58 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C576288CE for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:05:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 364AC1A068D for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:05:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from gh208-lirvin [10.11.14.170] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:05:47 CDT Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20011218120030.009f85d0@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:00:30 -0600 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Subject: [encore] Troubleshooting integration of discussionboard Cc: lgermer@accd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-archive-position: 375 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Everyone, I am attempting to integrate a threaded discussion board into the EnCore MOO I have set up, and it is working fine except for one troubling problem. I set the access to the discussion board from the external URL for a $thing object. You look at the object and then click on the link and it opens an external window with the web-based discussion board. Nifty. The problem comes when I close the window and return to the MOO. I can type text commands such as "look" without any problem and I can click on objects and rooms, but when I click ANY of the Xpress buttons except the LOOK button (such as EDIT or XPRESS) the MOO returns to the login page in an external window and gives the message: "Sorry, you need to be logged in to the MOO to perform this action. Please return to the login page and reconnect." I can close the window and still browse around the MOO and do things, except I run into problems if I dare click an Xpress button again. If I click the LOOK button, the MOO opens the login page within the Xpress window and the browser--MOO connection gets so wigged out that even when I close the MOO completely and return to it I can't get back into the MOO. I have to close Internet Explorer completely and open it again before I can reenter. Does anyone know what might be going on and how to avoid it? Has anyone else attempted to integrate a discussion board with EnCore? Here is some application info that will be pertinent: I am running EnCore version 2.1 with winmoo on an NTserver Discussion Forum type: ASP forum (101Forum) (Has anyone tried a Perl/CGI script forum?) Thanks for any help you can offer. Lennie Irvin ____________________________________________ L.Lennie Irvin San Antonio College Department of English Office-phone: GH 208, (210)733-2522 Email: Lirvin@accd.edu Webpage: http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/lirvin.htm AlaMOO: http://ranger.accd.edu:7000 From mattb@tampabay.rr.com Wed Dec 19 20:36:42 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 19 Dec 2001 20:36:43 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B8F8288A3 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 20:36:41 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server1.cfl.rr.com [65.32.2.68]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509881A0BC4 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 20:36:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from michelle (dt1b0nbc.tampabay.rr.com [24.92.212.188]) by smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id fBK2aWO05711 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2001 21:36:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <000701c188ff$26276ac0$0300a8c0@michelle> From: "Matt Brannock" To: References: <3.0.6.32.20011218120030.009f85d0@accdvm.accd.edu> Subject: [encore] Parsing Other Languages Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 21:36:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-archive-position: 376 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: mattb@tampabay.rr.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hello! I was wondering if it was possible to allow the parser to recognize non standard english characters, like é and ó for use in say and emote commands? Are there any resources on the Internet as to how to set this up? Even a general point in the right direction would be helpful. If anyone knows of any such sites, or can give me guidance, I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance! Matt Brannock mattb@tampabay.rr.com From hubert.gorczytza@uni-bielefeld.de Thu Dec 20 03:55:31 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 20 Dec 2001 03:55:32 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6AA288A3 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 03:55:29 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail.uni-bielefeld.de (mail2.uni-bielefeld.de [129.70.4.90]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F020A1A000A for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 03:55:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from uni-bielefeld.de ([129.70.20.8]) by mail.uni-bielefeld.de (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2000.10.12.16.25.p8) with ESMTPA id <0GOM00C5XZK555@mail.uni-bielefeld.de> for encore@utdallas.edu; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 10:55:20 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 10:59:59 +0100 From: Hubert Gorczytza Subject: [encore] Re: Parsing Other Languages Sender: hump@[129.70.20.8] To: encore@utdallas.edu Message-id: <3C21B69F.17BD0F06@uni-bielefeld.de> Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Universit=E4t?= Bielefeld MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [de] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0 i686) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Accept-Language: en References: <3.0.6.32.20011218120030.009f85d0@accdvm.accd.edu> <000701c188ff$26276ac0$0300a8c0@michelle> X-archive-position: 377 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: hubert.gorczytza@uni-bielefeld.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Matt, you could try to contact the people from Dreistadt at http://cmc.hf.uib.no:7001/ (a german language MOO in Norway). As far as I know it's based on the LambdaMOO-Server and uses Encore XPress. You can use german umlaute as well as other special characters. Since it works with a telnet-connection as well it doesn't seem to be an XPress feature only. Hubert Gorczytza Matt Brannock wrote: > = > Hello! > = > I was wondering if it was possible to allow the parser to recognize non= > standard english characters, like =E9 and =F3 for use in say and emote = commands? > Are there any resources on the Internet as to how to set this up? Even = a > general point in the right direction would be helpful. If anyone knows = of > any such sites, or can give me guidance, I'd appreciate it. Thanks in > advance! > = > Matt Brannock > mattb@tampabay.rr.com From Lirvin@ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU Fri Dec 28 07:36:06 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 28 Dec 2001 07:36:07 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B7D288A1 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 07:36:04 -0600 (CST) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id BDBBB1A0D20 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 07:35:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from Ir191470 [10.1.11.38] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 07:35:42 CDT From: "Lennie Irvin" To: Subject: [encore] Wizardly question Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2001 08:43:50 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C18F7B.C594D7A0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-archive-position: 378 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Lirvin@accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C18F7B.C594D7A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Happy New Year Everyone, I'm boning up on my newbie wizard skills and I had a question about recycling players. One of the routine tasks of a wizard seems to be to clean out old players who no longer use the MOO. I know how to identify them with @lastlog, and I know how to @recycle a player, but I'm not sure how to get rid of all their objects (if they have created any). Does @recycle delete all the objects they own? I seem to recall the term "reaping" being used to clean out old MOO users. I know Tari in Connections MOO has a routine procedure for "reaping" players and their objects if they have not connected in a certain amount of time. How would you set up this routine procedure? I also notice that Athemoo has a routine task of notifying players via email about the last time they logged in. How would you set up this routine email notification procedure? Thanks for any help, Lennie _________________________________ L. 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Look around for it and see if it is part of encore proper. If not, I can look for the code and see if I can post it. J -- Jason Nolan, PhD Project Director Project Achieve: Schoolnet's MOO http://moo.schoolnet.ca http://achieve.utoronto.ca From cynthiah@utdallas.edu Fri Dec 28 17:35:12 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 28 Dec 2001 17:35:13 -0600 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677F3288C6 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 17:35:10 -0600 (CST) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837B91A0DF0 for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2001 17:35:09 -0600 (CST) Received: from oppringt-243.ppp.uib.no [129.177.138.243] by alf.uib.no with esmtp (Exim 3.16) id 16K6Vz-0005zL-00; Sat, 29 Dec 2001 00:34:16 +0100 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.0.0.1309 Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 00:34:31 -0600 Subject: [encore] Re: Wizardly question From: Cynthia Haynes To: encore , Lennie Irvin Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-checked-clean: by exiscan on alf X-Scanner: ca5e139ca0d10ec6803615f94a5b90c5 http://tjinfo.uib.no/virus.html X-archive-position: 380 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: cynthiah@utdallas.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Lennie, In enCore there is a verb called @account-adm, which returns this menu: ===================================== LINGUAMOO USER ACCOUNT ADMINISTRATION ===================================== There are no characters in the purging queue 1) Find users who was created 3 months ago but has never connected 2) Find users who has not connected in the last 5 months and 30 days 3) Protect a character from being purged Please enter your choice (1-3) or type Q to quit Once you enter #1 it will queue players into the purge queue, allowing you to see the list of all of the players and their objects. This can be quite long if you have lots of players and have never done this procedure before, and the buffer in Xpress won't show them all, so I recommend you do this in a telnet client. Once players are in the queue, you have the option to send them a letter (the text of this letter will have to be entered somewhere, I'll have to check on that). After a period of time (which you should designate in the letter) you can them use the @account-adm verb to purge the queue and then you must reset the queue. You also have the option with #3 of permanently protecting a player from being purged, which is also useful. Hope this helps :) Best, Cynthia __Cynthia Haynes, Director of Rhetoric and Writing___________________ University of Texas at Dallas cynthiah@utdallas.edu School of Arts & Humanities http://www.utdallas.edu/~cynthiah PO Box 830688-JO 31 http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000 Richardson, TX 75083-0688 (O)972-883-6340 (F)972-883-2989