From hubert.gorczytza@uni-bielefeld.de Fri Jun 1 08:46:57 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 01 Jun 2001 08:46:57 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E019128772 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:46:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail.uni-bielefeld.de (mail2.uni-bielefeld.de [129.70.4.90]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E30B1A0248 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:39:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Schlepptop (ip006.biologie.uni-bielefeld.de [129.70.20.6]) by mail.uni-bielefeld.de (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.2000.10.12.16.25.p8) with SMTP id <0GE90003979WRS@mail.uni-bielefeld.de> for encore@utdallas.edu; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:39:32 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 14:01:35 +0200 From: Hubert Gorczytza Subject: [encore] Re: XML MOO To: encore@utdallas.edu Message-id: <000201c0eaa0$7100d200$06144681@Schlepptop> Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Universit=E4t_Bielefeld?= MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <5.0.0.25.2.20010521150749.00a61eb0@192.168.1.10> X-archive-position: 68 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: hubert.gorczytza@uni-bielefeld.de Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Andrew, It's a bit late to answer your question, but yesterday I discovered, that Ken Fox implemented Clarks expat in the LambdaMOO Server. Have a look at: http://www2.mars.org/~fox/moo/expat-binding/ I haven't tested it or even installed it yet, but I'm planning to use it as well, because I'd like to integrate a MOO into our learning environment (which exchanges data in XML). So I'll definitly work on this in the future. I'm thinking of maybe even implementing SOAP, but I'm afraid it'll be a lot of work to do. I'd be happy if we could exchange experience about that topic. Greetings Hubert Gorczytza ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrey Buikis" To: Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 3:09 PM Subject: [encore] XML MOO > Hello, > I am implementing Macromedia Flash Interface for MOO and I would like to > know if someone > have tried to make output of MOO as XML information. > > Any comments and ideas are welcome too > > Thank You, > Andrey Buikis > > ----------------------------------------------- > Hyper, Via Pisacane 23 PF+39.0578.20939 > Chiusi 53043, Siena, IT M +39.0348.7385551 > > ICANN @ Large Member > PGP A224 A3F3 B663 9246 7731 7155 331A C8F2 > > From mattb@tampabay.rr.com Sat Jun 2 14:41:52 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 02 Jun 2001 14:41:53 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B755F28765 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:41:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.1.34]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6156C1A0262 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 14:34:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from michelle (24288hfc152.tampabay.rr.com [24.28.8.152]) by smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f52JYQ528856 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:34:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002d01c0eb9b$17cf6560$0400a8c0@tampabay.rr.com> From: "Matt Brannock" To: Subject: [encore] Problem with email in Encore Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 15:34:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01C0EB79.90949280" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-archive-position: 69 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: mattb@tampabay.rr.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C0EB79.90949280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just started a moo running encore. I got everything running, the web = interface, the telnet interface, the configuration, etc. I am, however, = having one problem: I put in my email server, but when the moo should = send out email, it doesn't. I receive no emails from the moo. Any ideas? Also, another problem is that because I need to keep the files for = encore on the same machine as the one running the server. This means = that I cannot access the server from any of the computers in my home, = due to the fact that I use ip forwarding. I have to set the ip to my = computer's local ip for me to access it, but for everyone else to access = it, I have to set it to my forwarded ip, meaning I cannot access this. = If this is hard to understand, let me know, and I will clarify. Thanks! Matt Brannock mattb@tampabay.rr.com ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C0EB79.90949280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just started a moo running encore. I = got=20 everything running, the web interface, the telnet interface, the = configuration,=20 etc. I am, however, having one problem: I put in my email server, but = when the=20 moo should send out email, it doesn't. I receive no emails from the moo. = Any=20 ideas?
 
Also, another problem is that because I = need to=20 keep the files for encore on the same machine as the one running the = server.=20 This means that I cannot access the server from any of the computers in = my home,=20 due to the fact that I use ip forwarding. I have to set the ip to my = computer's=20 local ip for me to access it, but for everyone else to access it, I have = to set=20 it to my forwarded ip, meaning I cannot access this. If this is hard to=20 understand, let me know, and I will clarify. Thanks!
 
Matt Brannock
mattb@tampabay.rr.com
------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C0EB79.90949280-- From bonadonna@sxu.edu Sat Jun 2 18:12:04 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sat, 02 Jun 2001 18:12:05 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13FB28765 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 18:12:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pimout4-int.prodigy.net (pimout4-ext.prodigy.net [207.115.63.103]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E071A03C2 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 18:04:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [64.105.71.21] (h-64-105-71-21.chcgilgm.covad.net [64.105.71.21]) by pimout4-int.prodigy.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f52N4aE236334 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 19:04:36 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bonadonna@mail.sxu.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002d01c0eb9b$17cf6560$0400a8c0@tampabay.rr.com> References: <002d01c0eb9b$17cf6560$0400a8c0@tampabay.rr.com> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 18:06:03 -0600 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Angelo Bonadonna Subject: [encore] Re: Problem with email in Encore Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-archive-position: 70 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: bonadonna@sxu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore >I just started a moo running encore. I got everything running, the >web interface, the telnet interface, the configuration, etc. I am, >however, having one problem: I put in my email server, but when the >moo should send out email, it doesn't. I receive no emails from the >moo. Any ideas? My guess is that you need to recompile your MOO server (LambdaMOO-1.8.1?) and be sure the "options.h" file is configured to enable the "OUTBOUND_NETWORK" setting. Good luck--Angelo Angelo Bonadonna Department of English and Foreign Languages Saint Xavier University 3700 W. 103rd Street Chicago, IL 60655 773.298.3236 2106 S. Cuyler Berwyn, IL 60402 708.484.5673 email: bonadonna@sxu.edu WWW: http://english.sxu.edu/bonadonna From claudijo@piiip.net Sun Jun 3 17:12:17 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 03 Jun 2001 17:12:18 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F144028765 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:12:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from eden.grace.se (unknown [193.10.139.9]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C121A0008 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:04:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 00:02:05 +0200 Subject: [encore] controlling frames? To: encore@utdallas.edu From: "Claudijo Borovic" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 71 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: claudijo@piiip.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi! How can you controll the content of frames other than "web_frame" or "_blank" from the mootcan? (If you for instance create a couple of new frames in the encore layout) Do you have to hack the mootcan or...? Have a nice summer you all! /Claudijo Borovic --- Pip Pedagogisk idé & produktion --- Mobil 070/7493732 Webb http://www.piiip.net From Lirvin@ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU Tue Jun 5 06:30:34 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 05 Jun 2001 06:30:35 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDE028765 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 06:30:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id C18BF1A06D6 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 06:23:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Ir191470 [10.1.11.45] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Tue, 05 Jun 2001 06:22:55 CST From: "Lennie Irvin" To: Subject: [encore] Xpress problem Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 07:28:52 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-archive-position: 72 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Lirvin@accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Everyone, We have enjoyed a problem-free Spring with our Encore 2.1.1 version, but something has come up in the last couple of days that I can't figure out and I sure would appreciate a little help troubleshooting. When logging in to our MOO, the Xpress graphical side is not loading or displaying the graphical pages. The textual side seems fine. I am able to open the log in web page, but when I attempt to use my username and password from the log in page it seems like the MOO is not able to process them. Once I put in my username and password, the MOO begins to load but not completely. I don't get taken completely in to the MOOs opening location (AlaMOO Plaza) with all its descriptions. I get the telnet greeting and a cryptic line below that reads, "Either that player does not exist, or has a different password." When I type "Look" I get this message:"I don't understand that. Valid commands at this point are WELcome, Who, COnnect, CReate, Quit, UPtime, Version, REQuest, Help, or AUTOCONNECT." At this point, I am able to enter the MOO if I type in Connect then my username and password, but still the Xpress side does not show. It reminds me of some problems we had early on getting the @configure settings all correct, but I checked them and all the settings seem correct. I contacted the technician who keeps watch on the server and he says that nothing new or unusual has been done to the server. Has a file become corrupted perhaps? If you want to see for yourself how the MOO is behaving, go to http://ranger.accd.edu:7000 Thanks for your help! Lennie Irvin San Antonio College P.S. We are running our MOO on a Windows NT server. From Lirvin@ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU Wed Jun 6 11:16:07 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:16:08 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63EC528771 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:16:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 877581A0246 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:08:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Ir191470 [10.1.11.20] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:08:10 CST From: "Lennie Irvin" To: Subject: [encore] 2nd plea for help Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:14:08 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-archive-position: 73 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Lirvin@accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Everyone, I'm sorry to bother you all again, but I still have no lead on what is happening wrong with my MOO. Here's a description of what is happening. I am able to access the login page (complete with the HTML graphical right side) but when I type in my username and password, it does not take me completely into the MOO. The Xpress bar shows up, the text side to the left comes up, but the right Xpress side does not load. On the text side at the bottom of the welcome message is this line: "Either that player does not exist, or has a different password." As I begin to type commands, it becomes clear I am not really connected. The MOO responds, "I don't understand that. Valid commands at this point are WELcome, Who, COnnect, CReate, Quit, UPtime, Version, REQuest, Help, or AUTOCONNECT." This response reminds me of when I did not have the base URL correct, but I have checked all the configurations and everything appears to be correct and as it was before the problem emerged. At this point, I can connect using my username and password, but only the textual side is active. One theory is that the parent of $parent has changed, but I looked and it seems ok. I'm not sure I would know if it had been changed. It seems like it must be something with the Xpress Client. To further the mystery, I was going in and out of the MOO using someone else's password (because they had thought the MOO had forgotten their password) and one time (only once...) when I was connecting from the text (after the Login, "Either that player does not exist or has a different password" failure), I was able to access the Xpress Client and see the graphical side. I have tried repeatedly since, and never gotten the Xpress to show. I don't know what is up, and sure would appreciate some help. If you wish to see what is going on yourself, go to http://ranger.accd.edu:7000 Thanks, Lennie Irvin ________________________________________ L. Lennie Irvin English Instructor, San Antonio College 1300 San Pedro Ave. San Antonio, Texas 78212 http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/lirvin.htm AlaMOO: An Educational MOO for the Alamo Community College District http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/AlaMOO/index.htm From Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Wed Jun 6 11:51:28 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:51:28 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A061A28765 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:51:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailhub.Dartmouth.EDU (mailhub.dartmouth.edu [129.170.16.6]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD46C1A0423 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 11:43:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from donner.Dartmouth.EDU (donner.dartmouth.edu [129.170.208.3]) by mailhub.Dartmouth.EDU (8.9.3+DND/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16548; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:43:52 -0400 (EDT) X-Disclaimer: This message was received from outside Dartmouth's BlitzMail system. Received: by donner.Dartmouth.EDU (Mac) via SMTP from berry91-dhcp-219.dartmouth.edu [129.170.91.219] for encore@utdallas.edu,... id <52549021> 06 Jun 2001 12:43:51 EDT User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 12:43:51 -0400 Subject: [encore] Re: Xpress problem From: "Mark O'Neil" To: encore@utdallas.edu, Lennie Irvin Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 74 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore --- You wrote: I don't know what is up, and sure would appreciate some help. If you wish to see what is going on yourself, go to http://ranger.accd.edu:7000 Thanks, Lennie Irvin --- end of quote --- I was able to connect as a guest using the mootcan only option but was unable to access via the form. (Using Mac/IE5.0) Is this a recent development? Has it ever worked correctly? Have you (or someone else) made any changes to the xpress login/html verbs? -m From claudijo@piiip.net Wed Jun 6 13:25:49 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 06 Jun 2001 13:25:50 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C4828765 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:25:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from eden.grace.se (unknown [193.10.139.9]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20CA81A074A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:18:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 20:15:43 +0200 Subject: [encore] two questions To: encore@utdallas.edu From: "Claudijo Borovic" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 75 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: claudijo@piiip.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi! Hope you are having a nice summer... I have two questions 1) I can't figure out how to controll frames other than the ordinary web_frame or opening a new web page, with the mootcan. How can it be done? I'm looking for something like this... player:tell("< http://www.piiip.net:8888/who_browser/main.html participant_frame>."); Where for instance the who browser would load in a frame called participant_frame. 2) I get an error message when I try to edit some of the more "system-close" objects such as #0 with the new version of enCore Xpress. "Error: Property not found" I think is has to do with setting some bits for those objects...? Anyone knows how to fix that? (I'm a bit afraid of experementing when it comes to these kind of things :) Regards /Claudijo From karper@expert.cc.purdue.edu Thu Jun 7 09:51:54 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 07 Jun 2001 09:51:55 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D7328772 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:51:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from expert.cc.purdue.edu (expert.cc.purdue.edu [128.210.10.11]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BBEA1A0414 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:44:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (karper@localhost) by expert.cc.purdue.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA19157 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:44:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:44:18 -0500 (EST) From: Erin Karper To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Xpress problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 76 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: karper@expert.cc.purdue.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hm. I can connect as a guest -- but the first time I try to connect via Xpress, it seems to work, but after I put in my preferences it said "either that player doesn't exist or has another pasword". So, I typed connect guest from the command line. That let me connect on the text interface side. The Internal server error I get on the web side is Failed request was:GET/Xpress_client/display_user_location HTTP/1.0 Details Traceback: #147:display_user_location, line 6: Verb not found ...called from #32:execute_HTTP_request, line 45 (End of traceback) Dunno if that helps any, but that's what I got. I'm stumped.Oddly enough, browsing the MOO non interactively through that web interface works just fine, so it must be something with connecting that's borked. Erin -- karper@expert.cc.purdue.edu Grad Student, Technology Maven expert.cc.purdue.edu/~karper Rhetoric and Composition @ Purdue "Humanity = sound sex mayhem." -- Rich Rice, CW 2001 From lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Thu Jun 7 13:07:46 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 07 Jun 2001 13:07:46 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80FB28766 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:07:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from tangled.utdallas.edu (tangled.utdallas.edu [129.110.10.20]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE171A0344 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:00:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by tangled.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E48E1240C for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:00:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gh208-lirvin [10.11.14.170] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Thu, 07 Jun 2001 12:54:19 CST Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010608005237.00955c90@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 00:52:37 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Xpress problem In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-archive-position: 77 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Thanks Erin for noticing that you can browse the MOO fine. Borked, indeed. You also included the error message with the Traceback. I don't even know what to do to troubleshoot with this traceback information. How does one get into the guts of the machine? Lennie At 09:44 AM 6/7/01 -0500, you wrote: >Hm. I can connect as a guest -- but the first time I try to connect via >Xpress, it seems to work, but after I put in my preferences it said >"either that player doesn't exist or has another pasword". So, I typed >connect guest from the command line. That let me connect on the text >interface side. > >The Internal server error I get on the web side is > >Failed request was:GET/Xpress_client/display_user_location HTTP/1.0 > >Details > >Traceback: > >#147:display_user_location, line 6: Verb not found >...called from #32:execute_HTTP_request, line 45 >(End of traceback) > >Dunno if that helps any, but that's what I got. I'm stumped.Oddly enough, >browsing the MOO non interactively through that web interface works just >fine, so it must be something with connecting that's borked. > >Erin > >-- >karper@expert.cc.purdue.edu Grad Student, Technology Maven >expert.cc.purdue.edu/~karper Rhetoric and Composition @ Purdue >"Humanity = sound sex mayhem." -- Rich Rice, CW 2001 > > > ____________________________________________ L.Lennie Irvin San Antonio College Department of English Office-phone: GH 208, (210)733-2522 Email: Lirvin@accd.edu Webpage: http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/lirvin.htm AlaMOO: http://ranger.accd.edu:7000 From actipper@mtu.edu Thu Jun 7 13:20:02 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 07 Jun 2001 13:20:03 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8573D28766 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:20:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailoff.mtu.edu (mailoff.mtu.edu [141.219.70.111]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C1261A03EF for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 13:12:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail.mtu.edu (campus4.mtu.edu [141.219.70.7]) by mailoff.mtu.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f57ICLt00623 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:12:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ginger.hu.mtu.edu (ginger.hu.mtu.edu [141.219.148.40]) by mail.mtu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA08605 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:12:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (actipper@localhost) by ginger.hu.mtu.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/mturelay-2.0b) with ESMTP id OAA07913 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:12:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:12:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Allen Tipper To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Xpress problem In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010608005237.00955c90@accdvm.accd.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 78 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: actipper@mtu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore You would look at the verb display_user_location on #147 and see what it was trying to do. At least, that would be a good place to start. -Allen Tipper , NorthWoodsMOO Programmer/Administrator On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu wrote: > Thanks Erin for noticing that you can browse the MOO fine. Borked, indeed. > You also included the error message with the Traceback. I don't even > know what to do to troubleshoot with this traceback information. How does > one get into the guts of the machine? > > Lennie > > At 09:44 AM 6/7/01 -0500, you wrote: > >Hm. I can connect as a guest -- but the first time I try to connect via > >Xpress, it seems to work, but after I put in my preferences it said > >"either that player doesn't exist or has another pasword". So, I typed > >connect guest from the command line. That let me connect on the text > >interface side. > > > >The Internal server error I get on the web side is > > > >Failed request was:GET/Xpress_client/display_user_location HTTP/1.0 > > > >Details > > > >Traceback: > > > >#147:display_user_location, line 6: Verb not found > >...called from #32:execute_HTTP_request, line 45 > >(End of traceback) > > > >Dunno if that helps any, but that's what I got. I'm stumped.Oddly enough, > >browsing the MOO non interactively through that web interface works just > >fine, so it must be something with connecting that's borked. > > > >Erin > > > >-- > >karper@expert.cc.purdue.edu Grad Student, Technology Maven > >expert.cc.purdue.edu/~karper Rhetoric and Composition @ Purdue > >"Humanity = sound sex mayhem." -- Rich Rice, CW 2001 > > > > > > > ____________________________________________ > L.Lennie Irvin > San Antonio College Department of English > Office-phone: GH 208, (210)733-2522 > Email: Lirvin@accd.edu > Webpage: http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/lirvin.htm > AlaMOO: http://ranger.accd.edu:7000 > From hughes@un-agency.com Sun Jun 10 15:37:08 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:37:09 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9372888A for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:37:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from un-agency.com (rubidium.un-agency.com [142.176.6.2]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A00A19FFE2 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 15:29:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from hughes@localhost) by un-agency.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA17563 for encore@utdallas.edu; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:29:20 -0300 From: Kevin Hughes Message-Id: <200106102029.RAA17563@un-agency.com> Subject: [encore] Recurring login problems from multiple sources To: encore@utdallas.edu Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:29:20 -0300 (ADT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL5] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 79 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: hughes@un-agency.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore I've looked through the list archives and seen that this issue has been brought up before, but I have not as of yet seen a solution posted except possibly for people running Netscape on a Mac, which isn't much help to anyone in my group. This is the situation as it currently stands: One user can connect consistently from the office with no problems. At home, this user has 2 machines, one of which will allow him to connect once; all reconnect attempts generate the standard cookie error message. On a second machine, he is unable to connect at all, and gets the same error. All machines have java/javascript/cookies enabled. All are running at least IE5, and use Win98 (one home machine) and Win2K (other home machine and office machine). He has tested with Opera and Netscape with the same problems. Another user has a similar situation; 2 machines in the home, one will work inconsistently, the other will not work at all. Win98 on both machines using IE5. I myself occasionally experience this error message, but it is a fairly rare occurence. I run Win98SE and use IE5.5 Another user intermittently is unable to connect for a time period, then will spontaneously be able to connect again. He also uses Win98SE and IE5.5 In all cases, rebooting does not seem to help. The MOO is using enCore 3.0 and is running on an NT server using IIS4.0 Any help in identifying a solution to this problem would be appreciated as it is seriously hampering our projects. Thankyou very much. -- Kevin Hughes Senior Programmer Vantage Communications hughes@un-agency.com From llk@mail.utexas.edu Thu Jun 14 14:48:56 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:48:57 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CAD28772 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:48:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail.utexas.edu (wb1-a.mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.134]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F6A71A0458 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:41:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 6522 invoked by uid 0); 14 Jun 2001 19:41:05 -0000 Received: from barthelme.cwrl.utexas.edu (HELO ?128.83.125.100?) (128.83.125.100) by umbs-smtp-1 with SMTP; 14 Jun 2001 19:41:05 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:41:03 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Laura Kramarsky Subject: [encore] @go command in 3.0; player creation log Cc: Ryan Starck Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1219574832==_ma============" X-archive-position: 80 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: llk@mail.utexas.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore --============_-1219574832==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Hi all, We are having two problems with 3.0. First, many of our rooms do not show up by name using the @go command -- that is, when typing "@go testing", instead of going to the room called "testing," you get an error message that says '"testing" not found in room database.' However, if you type the room's NUMBER ("@go #185"), you get taken to the room with no problem. This is NOT true of ALL rooms, just true of some of them. There doesn't seem to be any way to predict which rooms will cause the problem and which won't, though the rooms that cause the problem cause it consistently. (That is, every time you log on, it's the same rooms you cannot find.) Second, subscribing to the "Player Creation Log" list yields no results. That is, the mailbox doesn't show up and mail doesn't arrive when new players are created. We have tried reinstalling the software from the ground up (instead of updating our 2.1 MOO), but the problems persist. Any ideas? Thanks for any and all help, -Laura -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Laura Kramarsky The University of Texas at Austin http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~kramarsky "Don't blame me...I voted with the majority." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --============_-1219574832==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" @go command in 3.0; player creation log
Hi all,

We are having two problems with 3.0.

First, many of our rooms do not show up by name using the @go command -- that is, when typing "@go testing", instead of going to the room called "testing," you get an error message that says '"testing" not found in room database.'  However, if you type the room's NUMBER ("@go #185"), you get taken to the room with no problem.

This is NOT true of ALL rooms, just true of some of them.  There doesn't seem to be any way to predict which rooms will cause the problem and which won't, though the rooms that cause the problem cause it consistently.  (That is, every time you log on, it's the same rooms you cannot find.)

Second, subscribing to the "Player Creation Log" list yields no results.  That is, the mailbox doesn't show up and mail doesn't arrive when new players are created.

We have tried reinstalling the software from the ground up (instead of updating our 2.1 MOO), but the problems persist.  Any ideas?

Thanks for any and all help,
-Laura
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Laura Kramarsky
The University of Texas at Austin
http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~kramarsky

"Don't blame me...I voted with the majority."
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--============_-1219574832==_ma============-- From sands@uwm.edu Tue Jun 19 09:39:49 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:39:50 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776CB28773 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:39:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from batch3.csd.uwm.edu (batch3.csd.uwm.edu [129.89.7.226]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C131A0492 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:31:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (root@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu [129.89.169.2]) by batch3.csd.uwm.edu (8.8.4/8.6.8) with ESMTP id JAA24488 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:31:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from slirp (sands@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu [129.89.8.202]) by alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (8.8.4/8.6.8) with SMTP id JAA16373 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:31:51 -0500 (CDT) From: "Peter Sands" To: "encore" Subject: [encore] Box recommendations Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:26:13 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-archive-position: 81 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: sands@uwm.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi everyone -- Could those of you who are online this week and not too busy do me a favor? I'd like to get a sense of the minimum and optimal hardware for running a Linux-based enCore installation that will mainly serve local classes. What processor speed? How much RAM? How much hard disk? If you respond, it would be terrific if you would be able to give me some context, too: such as institution, main purpose of the MOO, your hardware situation, etc. Thanks . . . ___________ Peter Sands, U. Wisconsin-Milwaukee sands@uwm.edu || http://www.uwm.edu/~sands English Department || http://www.uwm.edu/Dept/English/ 414.229.4416 || 414.229.2643 (fax) From dilger@nwe.ufl.edu Tue Jun 19 11:47:58 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:47:59 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E99288AF for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:47:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from nwe.ufl.edu (kubrick.nwe.ufl.edu [128.227.148.193]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C861A0293 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:01:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from eisner.nwe.ufl.edu (eisner.nwe.ufl.edu [128.227.148.192]) by nwe.ufl.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1/zhadum) with ESMTP id MAA19020 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:01:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:01:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Bradley Dilger To: encore Subject: [encore] Re: Box recommendations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 82 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: dilger@nwe.ufl.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore > I'd like to get a sense of the minimum and optimal hardware for > running a Linux-based enCore installation that will mainly serve > local classes. This has come up before. (Are there list archives? That would rule.) MOO requires minimal hardware. Surprisingly little. Darn near anything would work. And I do mean anything -- our MOO server is a six year old IBM C10 (PowerPC 601, like a PowerMac 7100). If you have a $1000 budget you should have no problem getting a great server including a backup solution of some kind (CD-RW or similar). I rank these items in order of importance: 1) Quality 100 Mb Ethernet card, preferably on switched 100 Mb network 2) Removable media or some sort of networked backup solution and enough media to do backups and enough time and energy to INSURE your MOO is backed up 3) At least 2 GB of SCSI, not IDE, disk. If you do a full install of most distributions of Linux you'll have room to spare even with a 2GB drive. You could skip a lot of stuff, but make sure to install the development tools or compiling will be tough :) 4) Quality hardware -- e.g. avoid no-name or "found" components unless you have time and energy to hack 'em together 5) At least 96 MB of RAM, but hopefully 128 MB or more 6) A 200 MHz or faster processor. cbd. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Bradley Dilger http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~dilger/ From rtk@stargate.net Tue Jun 19 12:16:12 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:16:12 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD335288AD for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:16:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smtp2.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net (smtp2.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net [206.210.69.142]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 557E71A027A for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:48:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 16474 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2001 15:47:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO t4k7j9) (144.80.92.145) by smtp2.mx.pitdc1.stargate.net with SMTP; 19 Jun 2001 15:47:54 -0000 From: "Rob Koch Jr." To: Subject: [encore] Re: Box recommendations Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:53:43 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-archive-position: 83 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: rtk@stargate.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Peter. I don't know about minimum and optimal, but I have the following: Dell Optiplex 2 -- 40 gig Hard drives (haven't figured out how to set up a mirror yet) 933 megahertz chip speed 256 meg ram Total cost for hardware was about $2,000. Using Red Hat Linux and Apache -- Pay careful attention to your Linux support. Redhat expected more knowledge than I had, wasn't tremedousl;y helpful, and ran out in 90 days. If you have a Linux/ Unix person on campus who can assist, or if you have the time to take a Linux course, that's probably best. We only use the MOO for about 1 class/semester right now, but there's no problem connecting, etc. (had 30 people logged in for a class last semester). Best, Rob -----Original Message----- From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu]On Behalf Of Peter Sands Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:26 AM To: encore Subject: [encore] Box recommendations Hi everyone -- Could those of you who are online this week and not too busy do me a favor? I'd like to get a sense of the minimum and optimal hardware for running a Linux-based enCore installation that will mainly serve local classes. What processor speed? How much RAM? How much hard disk? If you respond, it would be terrific if you would be able to give me some context, too: such as institution, main purpose of the MOO, your hardware situation, etc. Thanks . . . ___________ Peter Sands, U. Wisconsin-Milwaukee sands@uwm.edu || http://www.uwm.edu/~sands English Department || http://www.uwm.edu/Dept/English/ 414.229.4416 || 414.229.2643 (fax) From actipper@mtu.edu Tue Jun 19 15:08:31 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:08:32 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8CC28772 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:08:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailoff.mtu.edu (mailoff.mtu.edu [141.219.70.111]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B331A03FB for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:00:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail.mtu.edu (campus4.mtu.edu [141.219.70.7]) by mailoff.mtu.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5JK0Vp14946 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:00:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ginger.hu.mtu.edu (ginger.hu.mtu.edu [141.219.148.40]) by mail.mtu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16026 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:00:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (actipper@localhost) by ginger.hu.mtu.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3/mturelay-2.0b) with ESMTP id QAA16623 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:00:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 16:00:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Allen Tipper To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Box recommendations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 84 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: actipper@mtu.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hello Peter, Rob, and everyone else. What we have at Northwoods is a lot of overkill, a pretty decked-out Sparc Ultra 5 running Solaris, but the MOO is only a side process of this machine which serves as the nameserver for a computer lab's network. I have run my personal "test moo" on as little as a PII 233 running linux with no problems whatsoever. It had a 5 gig hard drive, but the MOO only took up maybe 7 megs at most, with NorthWoodsMOO taking up about 35 megs. As for a minimum, I would say about 250 Mhz processor, 32 megs ram, 2 gig HD , and a power supply to power it and case to put it in, some kind of monitor, keyboard and mouse to use the terminal with . MOOs don't require a lot of processor power or RAM or anything... serving the web doesn't either if you only expect say, 50-75 users at most. My choice for Linux is Madrake, with someone who knows Linux or some good books to help get you started learning , and an Apache web server which is a bit hard to learn but is free and runs wonderfully. -Allen Tipper , Programmer/administrator of the NorthWoodsMOO, http://www.hu.mtu.edu:8000 On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Rob Koch Jr. wrote: > Hi Peter. > > I don't know about minimum and optimal, but I have the following: > > Dell Optiplex > > 2 -- 40 gig Hard drives (haven't figured out how to set up a mirror yet) > 933 megahertz chip speed > 256 meg ram > > Total cost for hardware was about $2,000. > > Using Red Hat Linux and Apache -- Pay careful attention to your Linux > support. Redhat expected more knowledge than I had, wasn't tremedousl;y > helpful, and ran out in 90 days. If you have a Linux/ Unix person on campus > who can assist, or if you have the time to take a Linux course, that's > probably best. > > We only use the MOO for about 1 class/semester right now, but there's no > problem connecting, etc. (had 30 people logged in for a class last > semester). > > Best, > > Rob > > -----Original Message----- > From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu]On > Behalf Of Peter Sands > Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 10:26 AM > To: encore > Subject: [encore] Box recommendations > > > Hi everyone -- > > Could those of you who are online this week and not too busy do me a favor? > > I'd like to get a sense of the minimum and optimal hardware for running a > Linux-based enCore installation that will mainly serve local classes. > > What processor speed? > How much RAM? > How much hard disk? > > If you respond, it would be terrific if you would be able to give me some > context, too: such as institution, main purpose of the MOO, your hardware > situation, etc. > > Thanks . . . > > > > ___________ > Peter Sands, U. Wisconsin-Milwaukee > sands@uwm.edu || http://www.uwm.edu/~sands > English Department || http://www.uwm.edu/Dept/English/ > 414.229.4416 || 414.229.2643 (fax) > > > > From karper@expert.cc.purdue.edu Tue Jun 19 19:01:21 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:01:22 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB44288B9 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:01:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from expert.cc.purdue.edu (expert.cc.purdue.edu [128.210.10.11]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E821A0624 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:53:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (karper@localhost) by expert.cc.purdue.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA20087 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:53:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 18:53:22 -0500 (EST) From: Erin Karper To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Box recommendations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 85 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: karper@expert.cc.purdue.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore I gotta put a vote in for a UPS (Uninterruptable Power Supply, not the package guys) too -- it's invaluable if you live somewhere like the midwest where we get frequent storms during the summer. The machine that Pronoun MOO is running on has been up for over a year because of it. That machine, linnell.english.purdue.edu, is a Pentium something or other (need to look that up, but it's about two years old) with 256M of RAM and a 6G hard drive. We also have a tape drive for backup but we're going to be switching to a CD-RW at some point in the future. We're running RedHat but will most likely be switching to Slackware whenever the sysadmin who knows more than me has enough free time. Apache is our webserver. linnell runs the MOO, wwwthreads (web based discussion fora), mailman (mailing list server) and serves as a small file server and the backup webserver. Its twin, flansburgh.english.purdue.edu, runs the webserver for Purdue's professional writing program, rhetoric and composition program and acts as the host for www.writinginstructor.com. We haven't had any trouble related to overload on the machines, and we've had up to 100 peopl eon the MOO. Hey Brad, did you ever figure out that neat memory leak problem you were showing me at CW? Erin From dilger@nwe.ufl.edu Tue Jun 19 23:14:21 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:14:21 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC85288C1 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:14:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from nwe.ufl.edu (kubrick.nwe.ufl.edu [128.227.148.193]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7024E1A0839 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:06:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from eisner.nwe.ufl.edu (eisner.nwe.ufl.edu [128.227.148.192]) by nwe.ufl.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1/zhadum) with ESMTP id AAA29057 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:06:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 00:06:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Bradley Dilger To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Box recommendations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 86 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: dilger@nwe.ufl.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore > Hey Brad, did you ever figure out that neat memory leak problem > you were showing me at CW? Well, we're working on the symptom, not the problem, but in that we're getting closer. We're still working on the code for the conversational bot we have on MOOville, trying to make something like the "botwar" possible without tasks stacking up. Not many ways to do it without forking, and not many ways that ain't ugly... but if (length(queued_tasks()) >= 300) task_to_zap = queued_tasks()[1]; taskid_to_zap = task_to_zap[1]; kill_task(taskid_to_zap); endif Seems like an absurdly high limit, I know... cbd. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Bradley Dilger http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~dilger/ From Lirvin@ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU Thu Jun 21 12:09:22 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:09:23 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663A4288A5 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:09:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 85B451A02E5 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:01:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Ir191470 [10.1.11.44] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:01:01 CST From: "Lennie Irvin" To: Subject: [encore] Porter Help Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:07:10 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal X-archive-position: 87 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Lirvin@accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Does anyone have access to the help files for the SR Porter verbs such as @netcopy. Ive accessed the general help for the Porter, and it says the help files for the particular verbs are accessible, but I can find or open them. Id like to learn how to port objectsdoes anyone have help documentation on using this porter? Thanks, Lennie Irvin San Antonio College AlaMOO http://ranger.accd.edu:7000 From keustace@csu.edu.au Thu Jun 21 20:28:39 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:28:39 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B0822889F for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:28:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from csunb.mit.csu.edu.au (csunb.mit.csu.edu.au [137.166.16.1]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5E281A0869 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 20:20:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from postoffice.CSU.edu.au (postoffice.csu.edu.au [137.166.201.112]) by csunb.mit.csu.edu.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5M1FZ408149 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:15:35 +1000 (EST) Received: from keustace-dt (keustace-dt.riv.csu.edu.au [137.166.104.26]) by postoffice.CSU.edu.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f5M1FXV21684 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:15:33 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200106220115.f5M1FXV21684@postoffice.CSU.edu.au> From: "Ken Eustace" Organization: Charles Sturt University To: encore@utdallas.edu Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 11:21:18 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [encore] LC_MOO Login limit Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) X-archive-position: 88 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: keustace@csu.edu.au Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi, Last year we held a virtual conference on LC_MOO (still using enCore 2.0.4 at http://ispg.csu.edu.au:8800) and we handled over 80 particpants at the one time. This year we find that after 24 logins, the next person is shut out. THis is annoying one of our PhD students and one of her supervisors (me). I have been trying to work out what the setting may be in the MOO server or whether it is the OS. The ISPG machine was a SUN Sparc 4 running Solaris UNIX for the conference. The trouble began when the machine was zapped by a power outage during a thunder storm, and the machine is broken. We re-installed everything onto a Digital Alpha box running OpenBSD when the lock out started. Then if the MOO settings have not altered, we thought it maybe a hardware/OS problem so we have a test version running on an IBM Pentium II and the problem persists. Any ideas most welcome. -Ken ========================================================================== Ken Eustace E-mail: keustace@csu.edu.au Lecturer,Information Technology Phone: +61-2-6933 2832; Mobile: 0413 363 229 Charles Sturt University Facsimile: +61-2-6933 2733 Locked Bag 675 Wagga Wagga WWW: http://farrer.csu.edu.au/~keustace NSW 2678 AUSTRALIA MOO: http://farrer.csu.edu.au/moo/jv ========================================================================= Students need clear goals, and knowledge of the tools and methods they might use to accomplish those goals. And then they need for us to stand out of the way and let them learn. From shadowr@nc.rr.com Fri Jun 22 01:34:39 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:34:40 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46D6288B6 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:34:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Mail6.nc.rr.com (fe6.southeast.rr.com [24.93.67.53]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5FF1A0AAA for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:26:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mat ([24.25.30.72]) by Mail6.nc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Fri, 22 Jun 2001 02:26:36 -0400 From: "Michael Thompson" To: Subject: [encore] Re: Porter Help Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 02:28:21 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal X-archive-position: 89 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: shadowr@nc.rr.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Try help obj#:verb so if SRP is #1234 it'd be help #1234:@netcopy. +----------------------------+--------------------------+ Mike Thompson aka Shadow RAM : Made from 100% all natural shadowr@nc.rr.com : electrons! mathomp3@eos.ncsu.edu : : (UL) Listed, FCC Approved. +----------------------------+--------------------------+ : http://www.ipass.net/~shadowr : +-------------------------------------------------------+ GCS d- s+:- a? C++++ UBAHOLU++++ P++ L+++ E---- W+++ N+ o? K? w++ O--- M-- V-- PS+ PE+ Y+ PGP+ t+ 5- X++ R tv++ b++ DI+++ D+++ G+ e h-- r-- y? -----Original Message----- From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu]On Behalf Of Lennie Irvin Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 4:07 PM To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Porter Help Does anyone have access to the help files for the SR Porter verbs such as @netcopy. Ive accessed the general help for the Porter, and it says the help files for the particular verbs are accessible, but I can find or open them. Id like to learn how to port objectsdoes anyone have help documentation on using this porter? Thanks, Lennie Irvin San Antonio College AlaMOO http://ranger.accd.edu:7000 From Lirvin@ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU Mon Jun 25 11:27:45 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:27:46 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8FE2889A for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:27:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A4F01A0301 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:27:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Ir191470 [10.1.11.33] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 11:27:25 CST From: "Lennie Irvin" To: Subject: [encore] PorterHelp #2 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:33:35 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-archive-position: 90 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Lirvin@accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi Everyone, I'm still getting the hang of the porter, but I am not succeeding yet in getting it to work. As a test, I am attempting to port the generic fireplace from Lingua MOO to my moo (AlaMOO). I was able to get into the help files for the porter, but they are less than helpful. I did, however, enter my moo (the host) into the Porter database and LinguaMOO into the database using the @srp-addname verb. Then I attempted the @netcopy. Here's my sequence of commands and responses: @netcopy Host Name? [Type a line of input or `@abort' to abort the command.] AlaMOO [item in database] Entry found in db, using http://ranger.accd.edu:7000 Connection String? (ie connect someone foobar) [Type a line of input or `@abort' to abort the command.] connect Lennie Lingua [item in database] Remote Object Number? [Type a line of input or `@abort' to abort the command.] #377 [# of object I wish to port from Lingua] Local Object Parent? (defaults to #1) [Type a line of input or `@abort' to abort the command.] #388 [number of object that it will be in AlaMOO] ==> Trying http://ranger.accd.edu port 7000 ... ==> Unabled to connect to remote MOO. I'm not sure why I am not connecting to the remote MOO (ie Lingua). Am I doing something wrong in this sequence? I assume that the Host is the home computer that I am porting TO and that the "CONNECTION STRING" is to Lingua where I am porting FROM. I have a feeling that the problem is in the Connection String part of the sequence. I am a programmer in Lingua, so I think I have the right level clearance to port. Can anyone help me figure this out. Thanks! Lennie Irvin San Antonio College From llk@mail.utexas.edu Mon Jun 25 13:23:07 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:23:08 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54EB2889A for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:23:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail.utexas.edu (wb3-a.mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.138]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 664191A0181 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:23:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 8853 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jun 2001 18:23:00 -0000 Received: from barthelme.cwrl.utexas.edu (HELO ?128.83.125.100?) (128.83.125.100) by umbs-smtp-3 with SMTP; 25 Jun 2001 18:23:00 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 13:23:09 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Laura Kramarsky Subject: [encore] @go Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-archive-position: 91 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: llk@mail.utexas.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hello, all, Could anyone who regularly uses the "@go" command rather than clicking links please reply to me at llk@mail.utexas.edu ? I don't want to inundate the list, but I am trying to figure out what's happening with the 3 installs of encore 3.0 we are running (since the command doesn't work reliably in any of them) and I am wondering if most people just click links or if there's something peculiar to our installs that is causing our problems. Thanks, Laura -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Laura Kramarsky The University of Texas at Austin http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~kramarsky "Don't blame me...I voted with the majority." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From lucas@chuma.cas.usf.edu Mon Jun 25 15:48:31 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:48:31 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546AF28773 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:48:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.1.34]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F941A04EB for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:48:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from macinstructor (653243hfc04.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.43.4]) by smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5PKIGt13855 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:18:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200106252018.f5PKIGt13855@smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:18:11 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.388) From: Gerald Lucas To: encore@utdallas.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v388) In-Reply-To: Subject: [encore] Re: @go Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 92 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lucas@chuma.cas.usf.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore I used to have problems with @go, but when I issue the command ;$room_db:update() periodically, it's OK. Let me know if I can help more. --Jerry On Monday, June 25, 2001, at 02:23 PM, Laura Kramarsky wrote: > Could anyone who regularly uses the "@go" command rather than clicking > links please reply to me at llk@mail.utexas.edu ? I don't want to > inundate the list, but I am trying to figure out what's happening with > the 3 installs of encore 3.0 we are running (since the command doesn't > work reliably in any of them) and I am wondering if most people just > click links or if there's something peculiar to our installs that is > causing our problems. __________________________________________ Gerald Lucas Coordinator, Computer Assisted Instruction University of South Florida, Department of English http://www.cas.usf.edu/~lucas/ From llk@mail.utexas.edu Mon Jun 25 16:17:31 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:17:32 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB5E28773 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:17:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail.utexas.edu (wb3-a.mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.138]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B2D21A0284 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:17:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: (qmail 24227 invoked by uid 0); 25 Jun 2001 21:17:26 -0000 Received: from cs6668180-189.austin.rr.com (HELO ?128.83.125.100?) (66.68.180.189) by umbs-smtp-3 with SMTP; 25 Jun 2001 21:17:26 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200106252018.f5PKIGt13855@smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com> References: <200106252018.f5PKIGt13855@smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:17:35 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Laura Kramarsky Subject: [encore] Re: @go Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-archive-position: 93 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: llk@mail.utexas.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Thanks, Gerald, this solved our problem! -Laura >I used to have problems with @go, but when I issue the command > >;$room_db:update() > >periodically, it's OK. Let me know if I can help more. > >--Jerry > >On Monday, June 25, 2001, at 02:23 PM, Laura Kramarsky wrote: > >>Could anyone who regularly uses the "@go" command rather than >>clicking links please reply to me at llk@mail.utexas.edu ? I don't >>want to inundate the list, but I am trying to figure out what's >>happening with the 3 installs of encore 3.0 we are running (since >>the command doesn't work reliably in any of them) and I am >>wondering if most people just click links or if there's something >>peculiar to our installs that is causing our problems. > >__________________________________________ >Gerald Lucas >Coordinator, Computer Assisted Instruction >University of South Florida, Department of English >http://www.cas.usf.edu/~lucas/ -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Laura Kramarsky The University of Texas at Austin http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~kramarsky "Don't blame me...I voted with the majority." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From peggym@southwind.net Mon Jun 25 16:59:00 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:59:00 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D493428773 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:58:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail3.kscable.com (fe3.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.163.50]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CDA1A0365 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:58:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Peggym ([65.30.32.24]) by mail3.kscable.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:58:51 -0500 Message-ID: <000901c0fdc2$05a731e0$18201e41@KSCABLE.com> From: "Peggy Mitchell" To: References: Subject: [encore] Re: Porter Help Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:58:52 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-archive-position: 94 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: peggym@southwind.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Use the plain telnet address to port. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lennie Irvin" To: Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 3:07 PM Subject: [encore] Porter Help > Does anyone have access to the help files for the SR Porter verbs such as > @netcopy. Ive accessed the general help for the Porter, and it says the > help files for the particular verbs are accessible, but I can find or open > them. Id like to learn how to port objectsdoes anyone have help > documentation on using this porter? > > Thanks, > > Lennie Irvin > San Antonio College > AlaMOO http://ranger.accd.edu:7000 > > > > From peggym@southwind.net Mon Jun 25 17:00:27 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:00:28 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F25528773 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:00:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mail3.kscable.com (fe3.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.163.50]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E5121A01D5 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:00:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Peggym ([65.30.32.24]) by mail3.kscable.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:00:23 -0500 Message-ID: <001501c0fdc2$3ce1fd20$18201e41@KSCABLE.com> From: "Peggy Mitchell" To: References: Subject: [encore] Re: PorterHelp #2 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:00:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-archive-position: 95 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: peggym@southwind.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Ooops... I replied to the wrong one of your mails but I think you get the gist. Don't use the http addy.:) Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lennie Irvin" To: Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 2:33 PM Subject: [encore] PorterHelp #2 > Hi Everyone, > > I'm still getting the hang of the porter, but I am not succeeding yet in > getting it to work. As a test, I am attempting to port the generic fireplace > from Lingua MOO to my moo (AlaMOO). I was able to get into the help files > for the porter, but they are less than helpful. I did, however, enter my > moo (the host) into the Porter database and LinguaMOO into the database > using the @srp-addname verb. Then I attempted the @netcopy. Here's my > sequence of commands and responses: > > @netcopy > Host Name? > [Type a line of input or `@abort' to abort the command.] > AlaMOO [item in database] > Entry found in db, using http://ranger.accd.edu:7000 > > Connection String? (ie connect someone foobar) > [Type a line of input or `@abort' to abort the command.] > connect Lennie Lingua [item in database] > > Remote Object Number? > [Type a line of input or `@abort' to abort the command.] > #377 [# of object I wish to port from Lingua] > > Local Object Parent? (defaults to #1) > [Type a line of input or `@abort' to abort the command.] > #388 [number of object that it will be in AlaMOO] > > ==> Trying http://ranger.accd.edu port 7000 ... > ==> Unabled to connect to remote MOO. > > I'm not sure why I am not connecting to the remote MOO (ie Lingua). Am I > doing something wrong in this sequence? I assume that the Host is the home > computer that I am porting TO and that the "CONNECTION STRING" is to Lingua > where I am porting FROM. I have a feeling that the problem is in the > Connection String part of the sequence. I am a programmer in Lingua, so I > think I have the right level clearance to port. > > Can anyone help me figure this out. Thanks! > > Lennie Irvin > > San Antonio College > > > From jaredjared@earthlink.net Mon Jun 25 21:41:02 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 25 Jun 2001 21:41:03 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5712D28773 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 21:41:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net (avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.121.50]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B78B1A0693 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 21:40:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from boysenberry (user-2injgd9.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.193.169]) by avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04564; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <005c01c0fde8$f3098020$0201a8c0@boysenberry> From: "Jared Bendis" To: Subject: [encore] Strange Problem Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 22:37:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-archive-position: 96 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jaredjared@earthlink.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore I don't know exactly when it began (though it appears it has been this way for a while) but every object we create appears to have the date: Wed Dec 31 19:00:00 1969 EST The Bios and the system are showing the correct date and the date shows up right in the MOO. Any ideas? Or where I should start to look? --- Jared E Bendis aka JaredJared (on AOL) or Jaredx2 (on IRC) Technical Developer for Curricular Virtual Reality Instructional Technology Specialist Courseware Designer Deparartment of Information Services and The Curriculum Support Group Case Western Reserve University Email: jaredjared@earthlink.net Web Site: http://www.jaredjared.com Home: 216-321-5444 Fax: 216-368-4903 The eyes in the back of my head See the world I left behind. Jared Bendis --- From dilger@nwe.ufl.edu Tue Jun 26 11:04:17 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:04:18 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0B828772 for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:04:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from nwe.ufl.edu (kubrick.nwe.ufl.edu [128.227.148.193]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75651A00CE for ; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:04:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from eisner.nwe.ufl.edu (eisner.nwe.ufl.edu [128.227.148.192]) by nwe.ufl.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1/zhadum) with ESMTP id MAA22013; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:03:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 12:03:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Bradley Dilger To: Jared Bendis Cc: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: Strange Problem In-Reply-To: <005c01c0fde8$f3098020$0201a8c0@boysenberry> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 97 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: dilger@nwe.ufl.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore > I don't know exactly when it began (though it appears it has been > this way for a while) but every object we create appears to have > the date: Wed Dec 31 19:00:00 1969 EST That's the beginning of the Unix epoch, minus your time difference from GMT -- Unix measures time in seconds since January 1, 1970. If the value is 0 the date is the epoch. (Yeah, seems weird, but it's a neat way to express time in an absolute way, and if you were born on 1/1/1970, bully for you!) What does ;time() return in the MOO? Should be something a bit more than 993571363 (that's the time now). It's possible that time actually works OK on your MOO (server box) but is just being recorded wrongly on objects (and is thus returning 0). You may want to fool with $time_utils and see what works and what doesn't. I suspect the problem isn't with time itself but the way the MOO is recording or reporting object's creation times. time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so, cbd. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Bradley Dilger http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~dilger/ From lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Thu Jun 28 11:12:42 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:12:43 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 712972889F for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:12:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 94E0E1A0A08 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:12:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gh208-lirvin [10.11.14.170] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 11:12:27 CST Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010628231014.00959340@accdvm.accd.edu> X-Sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 23:10:14 -0500 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Subject: [encore] rmwords BOT? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-archive-position: 98 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: lirvin@accdvm.accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi, I am attempting to program words into a bot to work in conjuction with a web projector to form a kind of self-tutorial guided by the bot. As I am programming new words into the bot, of course, I am making errors so I am interested in editing the words in the bot or even deleting them and then starting over. I ran into an error message, however, when I attempted to RMWORD from BOTNAME. Here's the message: #100:rmw*ord (this == #409), line 2: Range error (End of traceback) As a consequence, I am unable to remove words from the bot. Would anyone know what is going on here? Thanks (as always), Lennie ____________________________________________ L.Lennie Irvin San Antonio College Department of English Office-phone: GH 208, (210)733-2522 Email: Lirvin@accd.edu Webpage: http://www.accd.edu/sac/english/lirvin/lirvin.htm AlaMOO: http://ranger.accd.edu:7000 From claudijo@piiip.net Thu Jun 28 15:14:20 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:14:21 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC3EA288C8 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:14:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from eden.grace.se (unknown [193.10.139.9]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0FD71A0AB1; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:12:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:10:26 +0200 Subject: [encore] Re: rmwords BOT? To: encore@utdallas.edu Cc: encore@utdallas.edu From: "Claudijo Borovic" References: <3.0.6.32.20010628231014.00959340@accdvm.accd.edu> In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010628231014.00959340@accdvm.accd.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 99 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: claudijo@piiip.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore encore@utdallas.edu writes: >I am attempting to program words into a bot to work in conjuction with a >web projector to form a kind of self-tutorial guided by the bot. As I am >programming new words into the bot, of course, I am making errors so I am >interested in editing the words in the bot or even deleting them and then >starting over. > >I ran into an error message, however, when I attempted to RMWORD > >from BOTNAME. Here's the message: >#100:rmw*ord (this == #409), line 2: Range error >(End of traceback) > >As a consequence, I am unable to remove words from the bot. > >Would anyone know what is going on here? You are probably typing the actual word, when instead you should type the number of the word. RMWORD from BOTNAME When you type seeword botname, you see all the words and which number they have. Cheers /Claudijo From scomslb@zeus.hud.ac.uk Thu Jun 28 15:20:37 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:20:37 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5924C288AA for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:20:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843991A0A90 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 15:20:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from redbull.local ([213.105.104.17]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010628202029.RVGR351.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@redbull.local> for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:20:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 15199 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2001 20:20:31 -0000 Received: from vodka.local (192.168.16.40) by redbull.local with SMTP; 28 Jun 2001 20:20:31 -0000 Received: by vodka.local (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:20:29 +0100 Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 21:20:29 +0100 From: scomslb@zeus.hud.ac.uk To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: rmwords BOT? Message-ID: <20010628212029.A692@vodka.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4us X-archive-position: 100 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: scomslb@zeus.hud.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore > I ran into an error message, however, when I attempted to RMWORD > from BOTNAME. Here's the message: > #100:rmw*ord (this == #409), line 2: Range error > (End of traceback) > > As a consequence, I am unable to remove words from the bot. > > Would anyone know what is going on here? Here should be the number of the word you want to remove. Do a seewords botname to get the number... So to remove the 10th word in the list you'd do: rmword 10 from botname Hope that helps, Sarah. -- http://www.myplace.uklinux.net/ From Lirvin@ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU Fri Jun 29 05:58:23 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 29 Jun 2001 05:58:24 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91241288B1 for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 05:58:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C19D1A03FA for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 05:58:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Ir191470 [10.1.11.54] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Fri, 29 Jun 2001 05:58:09 CST From: "Lennie Irvin" To: Subject: [encore] Re: rmwords BOT? Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 07:04:22 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-archive-position: 101 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Lirvin@accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Thanks Claudijo and Sarah. That does it. L. -----Original Message----- From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu]On Behalf Of Claudijo Borovic Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 1:10 PM To: encore@utdallas.edu Cc: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: rmwords BOT? encore@utdallas.edu writes: >I am attempting to program words into a bot to work in conjuction with a >web projector to form a kind of self-tutorial guided by the bot. As I am >programming new words into the bot, of course, I am making errors so I am >interested in editing the words in the bot or even deleting them and then >starting over. > >I ran into an error message, however, when I attempted to RMWORD > >from BOTNAME. Here's the message: >#100:rmw*ord (this == #409), line 2: Range error >(End of traceback) > >As a consequence, I am unable to remove words from the bot. > >Would anyone know what is going on here? You are probably typing the actual word, when instead you should type the number of the word. RMWORD from BOTNAME When you type seeword botname, you see all the words and which number they have. Cheers /Claudijo