From a6101mad@mailbox.univie.ac.at Wed May 2 13:17:34 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 02 May 2001 13:17:35 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E8528891 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 13:17:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from politeia.philo.at (TK147221.univie.teleweb.at [195.34.147.221]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAFEE1A0114 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 13:11:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (a6101mad@localhost) by politeia.philo.at (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id f42IQN008644 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 20:26:23 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: politeia.philo.at: a6101mad owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 20:25:26 +0200 (MEST) From: Herbert Hrachovec Sender: To: Subject: [encore] virtual server question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 26 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: a6101mad@mailbox.univie.ac.at Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hello, I am running enCore under apache with a virtual server address: DNS: freiraum.philo.at points to 131.130.49.215 and httpd.conf: ServerName freiraum.philo.at DocumentRoot /usr/local/httpd/htdocs/encore Now I would like to have some introductory files which are accessible at http://freiraum.philo.at (not 7000) prior to the actual login. But I cannot figure out how to make this work. If the files are accessible with "http://freiraum.philo.at" the MOO server cannot find the appropriate folders: images, mootcan etc. Is there a way around this problem or am I trying something impossible? Kind regards, Herbert Hrachovec From jan.holmevik@hedb.uib.no Wed May 2 13:27:23 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 02 May 2001 13:27:24 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E8B128763 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 13:27:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750E71A0892 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 13:20:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cm31383-b.ftwrth1.tx.home.com [24.4.16.114] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.16) id 14v1Ex-0000hM-00; Wed, 02 May 2001 20:20:43 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 13:20:48 -0500 Subject: [encore] Re: virtual server question From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 27 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@hedb.uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore If you use @configure and set your external base URL to http://freiraum.philo.at/encore/ it should work. Let me know if it doesn't. Best, Jan On 5/2/01 1:25 PM, Herbert Hrachovec at a6101mad@mailbox.univie.ac.at wrote: > > Hello, > > I am running enCore under apache with a virtual server address: > > DNS: > freiraum.philo.at points to 131.130.49.215 > > and > > httpd.conf: > > ServerName freiraum.philo.at > DocumentRoot /usr/local/httpd/htdocs/encore > > Now I would like to have some introductory files which are accessible at > http://freiraum.philo.at (not 7000) prior to the actual login. But I > cannot figure out how to make this work. > > If the files are accessible with "http://freiraum.philo.at" the MOO server > cannot find the appropriate folders: images, mootcan etc. > > Is there a way around this problem or am I trying something impossible? > > Kind regards, > > Herbert Hrachovec __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From jan.holmevik@hedb.uib.no Wed May 2 14:59:07 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 02 May 2001 14:59:08 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B0628761 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 14:59:06 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C831A005E for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 14:52:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cm31383-b.ftwrth1.tx.home.com [24.4.16.114] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.16) id 14v2fe-0002fe-00; Wed, 02 May 2001 21:52:22 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 14:52:26 -0500 Subject: [encore] MOO Binaries Challenge From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 28 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@hedb.uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hey folks, So far, only Herve Collin has responded to my LambdaMOO binaries challenge. His Linux X86 binaries are now in the enCore server archive along with binaries for Mac OS X and Solaris X86. Anyone running MOOs on other platforms? If so, get your compiler tools out and submit binaries for your platform, surely we can do better than the three we have so far??? Cheers, Jan __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From jan.holmevik@hedb.uib.no Thu May 3 16:47:34 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 03 May 2001 16:47:35 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB2B288BA for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 16:47:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F251A01B0 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 16:40:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mac2344.utdallas.edu [129.110.23.44] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.16) id 14vQq5-00028V-00; Thu, 03 May 2001 23:40:45 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 16:40:44 -0500 Subject: [encore] SunOS MOO binaries available From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 29 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@hedb.uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Herve Collin has sent in MOO binaries for SunOS (Solaris). Available at ftp://ftp.utdallas.edu/pub/ah/moo/binaries/ Cheers, Jan __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Mon May 7 07:19:43 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 07 May 2001 07:19:43 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A23E2875F for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 07:19:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailhub.Dartmouth.EDU (mailhub.dartmouth.edu [129.170.16.6]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F6919FFF0 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 07:13:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from donner.Dartmouth.EDU (donner.dartmouth.edu [129.170.208.3]) by mailhub.Dartmouth.EDU (8.9.3+DND/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA22629 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 08:13:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Disclaimer: This message was received from outside Dartmouth's BlitzMail system. Received: by donner.Dartmouth.EDU (Mac) via SMTP from berry91-dhcp-149.dartmouth.edu [129.170.91.149] for encore@utdallas.edu id <50764333> 07 May 2001 08:13:02 EDT User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 07:13:11 -0400 Subject: [encore] MacOSX Re: MOO Binaries Challenge From: "Mark O'Neil" To: encore@utdallas.edu Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 30 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Anything special I need to setup to run the MacOS X binary locally? I mean to say without a network connection? It would be great to debug MOO code on plane flights! -m From jan.holmevik@hedb.uib.no Mon May 7 13:16:29 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 07 May 2001 13:16:30 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDE528772 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:16:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF7F1A0421 for ; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:09:53 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cm31383-b.ftwrth1.tx.home.com [24.4.16.114] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.16) id 14wpRy-00018U-00; Mon, 07 May 2001 20:09:38 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 13:09:47 -0500 Subject: [encore] Re: MacOSX Re: MOO Binaries Challenge From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 31 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@hedb.uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore On 5/7/01 6:13 AM, Mark O'Neil at Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU wrote: > Anything special I need to setup to run the MacOS X binary locally? I mean > to say without a network connection? It would be great to debug MOO code on > plane flights! > > -m Nope, just set up a directory, put a MOO database in there along with the files moo and restart and fire it up. Also make sure Apache is running so you have Xpress access. Open the Sharing control panel and start it from there if it's not already running. Cheers, jan __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From jan.holmevik@hedb.uib.no Tue May 8 11:49:33 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 08 May 2001 11:49:34 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FDF52875F for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 11:49:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F751A012D for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 11:42:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cm31383-b.ftwrth1.tx.home.com [24.4.16.114] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.16) id 14xAZL-0001Uk-00; Tue, 08 May 2001 18:42:39 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 11:42:48 -0500 Subject: [encore] DEC Alpha Binaries available From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: enCore list Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 32 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@hedb.uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Mark O'Neil has submitted LambdaMOO binaries for DEC Alpha running Digital Unix 4.0. Thanks! Cheers, Jan __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From j.turner@qut.edu.au Wed May 9 20:14:29 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 09 May 2001 20:14:30 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726492875F for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 20:14:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from melia.qut.edu.au (melia.qut.edu.au [131.181.127.2]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DC71A08BB for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 20:07:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pigeon.qut.edu.au ([131.181.127.98]) by melia.qut.edu.au (PMDF V5.2-33 #40788) with ESMTP id <0GD307QQEHRRNX@melia.qut.edu.au> for encore@utdallas.edu; Thu, 10 May 2001 11:07:03 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost (turnerj@localhost) by pigeon.qut.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14165 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 11:07:03 +1000 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 11:07:03 +1000 (EST) From: "truna aka j.turner" Subject: [encore] server sort of question In-reply-to: To: enCore list Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 33 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: j.turner@qut.edu.au Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore greetings from brisbane ... and i am one very excited educator as i have been given the opportunity to build in moo construction as part of a course i will teach next term ... even got the core up and running on the department server (no more manquey boxes with dodgy hard drives!!! whoopppee!) but this leads me to my query -- is there a reason that every single moo/mud server i have ever seen would seem to be running on a discrete server? the server with the new moo is living on also the server that all the students use for their work .. can anyone tell me if there is a potential clash here? love, thanks and a particularly gleeful bounce, truna ***************************************************** Truna aka J.Turner : Educational Technology Interface Lecturer in Technology, Literacy & Language Queensland University of Technology Australia ***************************************************** Internet 101 (IDMT): http://www.cdes.qut.edu.au/units/aan818/draft/ Technology & Language Learning: http://www.fed.qut.edu.au/tesol/cln618 The eMU papers: http://www.fed.qut.edu.au/tesol/cmc/emu/ Jalapeno : jalapeno@qut.edu.au ) Personal email : j.turner@qut.edu.au 8==%^^^^^^^^^^~/^^' Business email : truna@truna.net " truna " ICQ : #12145525 From karper@expert.cc.purdue.edu Wed May 9 20:18:11 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 09 May 2001 20:18:11 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2F72875F for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 20:18:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from expert.cc.purdue.edu (expert.cc.purdue.edu [128.210.10.11]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632861A089A for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 20:11:30 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (karper@localhost) by expert.cc.purdue.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA23097 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 20:11:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 20:11:29 -0500 (EST) From: Erin Karper To: enCore list Subject: [encore] Re: server sort of question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 34 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: karper@expert.cc.purdue.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore On Thu, 10 May 2001, truna aka j.turner wrote: > -- > is there a reason that every single moo/mud server i have ever seen would > seem to be running on a discrete server? the server with the new moo is > living on also the server that all the students use for their work .. can > anyone tell me if there is a potential clash here? Congrats on the MOO! The only time there can be a clash is if the box is running so many applications that it runs out of memory... but I've rarely seen that happen. I think most people just run them on their own servers cause they have the space. I don't know. The MOO I admin runs on the same box that serves our bulletin boards, our mailing lists, quite a bit of mail, and acts as a file server, and it hums along just fine. Any encore-people going to be at CW 2001? Erin From cynthiah@utdallas.edu Wed May 9 22:42:36 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 09 May 2001 22:42:37 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D36F2875F for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 22:42:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from apache.utdallas.edu (apache.utdallas.edu [129.110.16.9]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8AB819FFDC for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 22:35:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (cynthiah@localhost) by apache.utdallas.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA25728 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 22:35:54 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: apache.utdallas.edu: cynthiah owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 22:35:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Cynthia Haynes To: enCore list Subject: [encore] Re: server sort of question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 35 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: cynthiah@utdallas.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Erin, Joel English wrote us today to say that he and some others are doing a MOO admin workshop at C&W that will be strictly enCore-based. I'm not sure exactly when it's being offered, but you may want to hook up with him to get the details. Best, Cynthia _____cynthiah@utdallas.edu______ _____http://www.utdallas.edu/~cynthiah/_____ _____Lingua MOO_____http://lingua.utdallas.edu:7000______ University of Texas at Dallas, School of Arts & Humanities PO Box 830688-Mail Station JO 31, Richardson, Tx 75083 Tel: 972-883-6340 - Fax: 972-883-2989 From Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Thu May 10 07:33:46 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 10 May 2001 07:33:47 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2EB2875F for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 07:33:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailhub.Dartmouth.EDU (mailhub.dartmouth.edu [129.170.16.6]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB2F1A05A6 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 07:27:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from donner.Dartmouth.EDU (donner.dartmouth.edu [129.170.208.3]) by mailhub.Dartmouth.EDU (8.9.3+DND/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12803 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 08:27:02 -0400 (EDT) X-Disclaimer: This message was received from outside Dartmouth's BlitzMail system. Received: by donner.Dartmouth.EDU (Mac) via SMTP from berry91-dhcp-219.dartmouth.edu [129.170.91.219] for encore@utdallas.edu id <50977682> 10 May 2001 08:27:02 EDT User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 08:27:09 -0400 Subject: [encore] Re: server sort of question From: "Mark O'Neil" To: encore@utdallas.edu Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 36 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore on 5/9/01 11:35 PM, Cynthia Haynes at cynthiah@utdallas.edu wrote: > Erin, > Joel English wrote us today to say that he and some others are > doing a MOO admin workshop at C&W that will be strictly enCore-based. I'm > not sure exactly when it's being offered, but you may want to hook up with > him to get the details. > > Best, > > Cynthia Sounds interesting - what/where/when is C&W 2001? -m From karper@expert.cc.purdue.edu Thu May 10 08:11:04 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 10 May 2001 08:11:05 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D19392875F for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 08:11:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from expert.cc.purdue.edu (expert.cc.purdue.edu [128.210.10.11]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5490E1A05E0 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 08:04:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (karper@localhost) by expert.cc.purdue.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA24189 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 08:04:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 08:04:18 -0500 (EST) From: Erin Karper To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: server sort of question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 37 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: karper@expert.cc.purdue.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore On Thu, 10 May 2001, Mark O'Neil wrote: > > Sounds interesting - what/where/when is C&W 2001? CW 2001 is Computers and Writing 2001, a conference for people interested in computers and writing. It's being held at Ball State University in Muncie, Indiana, from May 17-20. You can see the conference website at http://www.bsu.edu/cw2001/. I believe people can still register at the door. There's also a companion online conference (which is free) with discussions being held on a mailing list and on a MOO. You can visit the website for that at http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/cwonline2001/ I don't know if I'll be there for the whole conference, but I"ll be there on Thursday as part of the electronic publication workshop team, and I'll be doing a poster session on Saturday. Erin From Lirvin@ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU Fri May 11 11:25:57 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 11 May 2001 11:25:58 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F7B028761 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 11:25:57 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (accdvm.accd.edu [209.184.119.1]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C1791A02D5 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 11:19:13 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Ir191470 [10.1.11.72] by ACCDVM.ACCD.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R4a) via TCP with SMTP ; Fri, 11 May 2001 11:19:03 CST From: "Lennie Irvin" To: Subject: [encore] Gaming MOOs Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:24:44 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-archive-position: 38 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Lirvin@accd.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore I was wondering if anyone knew of some good gaming MOOs (particularly if they are enCore MOOs). I am not necessarily looking for recreation and fun, but I want to experience this aspect of MOOing. It seems to me like some blending of "gaming" and learning might be very interesting. Does anyone know of examples where someone in an educational MOO has used gaming for a pedagogical purpose? Thanks, Lennie Irvin San Antonio College From jeank@email.arizona.edu Fri May 11 11:40:31 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 11 May 2001 11:40:32 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7524228764 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 11:40:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from CompuSult.casagrande.com (CompuSult.casagrande.com [207.254.52.2]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2853B1A0B17 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 11:33:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from tomnjean (dialup270.casagrande.com [207.254.53.125]) by CompuSult.casagrande.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA12591; Fri, 11 May 2001 09:26:24 -0700 Message-ID: <005001c0da37$c917a3c0$0100005a@casagrande.com> From: "Jean Kreis" To: , Cc: "Ken McAllister" References: Subject: [encore] Re: Gaming MOOs Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:30:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-archive-position: 39 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jeank@email.arizona.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Lennie, Ken McAllister has done quit a bit of work with pedagogical uses of online gaming. I'll forward this to him and see if he will respond. Jean alias jeanaroo http://oldpueblomoo.arizona.edu Jean Kreis, University of Arizona UA Web-based Instructional Support CCIT 337 (520)626-8071 (520)626-8330 FAX jeank@u.arizona.edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lennie Irvin" To: Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 12:24 PM Subject: [encore] Gaming MOOs > I was wondering if anyone knew of some good gaming MOOs (particularly if > they are enCore MOOs). I am not necessarily looking for recreation and fun, > but I want to experience this aspect of MOOing. It seems to me like some > blending of "gaming" and learning might be very interesting. Does anyone > know of examples where someone in an educational MOO has used gaming for a > pedagogical purpose? > > Thanks, > > Lennie Irvin > San Antonio College > > > > > From jason.nolan@utoronto.ca Fri May 11 12:16:31 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 11 May 2001 12:16:31 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E6B828772 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 12:16:29 -0500 (CDT) Received: from bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca (bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca [128.100.132.16]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A8641A0B48 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 12:09:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cente.oise.utoronto.ca ([142.150.98.74] EHLO [142.150.98.74] ident: NO-IDENT-SERVICE [port 49157]) by bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca with ESMTP id <464338-12383>; Fri, 11 May 2001 13:09:26 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: jason.nolan@mailbox91.utcc.utoronto.ca Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:59:14 -0400 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: JASON NOLAN Subject: [encore] Re: Gaming MOOs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-archive-position: 40 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jason.nolan@utoronto.ca Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Interesting question. It would depend on what you define as gaming. D&D style role playing? Or other types of roleplaying? I don't know any, but I'd like to know, and to have a sense of how 'gaming' is unpacked. >I was wondering if anyone knew of some good gaming MOOs (particularly if >they are enCore MOOs). I am not necessarily looking for recreation and fun, >but I want to experience this aspect of MOOing. It seems to me like some >blending of "gaming" and learning might be very interesting. Does anyone >know of examples where someone in an educational MOO has used gaming for a >pedagogical purpose? > >Thanks, > >Lennie Irvin >San Antonio College -- Jason Nolan, PhD Project Director Project Achieve: Schoolnet's MOO http://moo.schoolnet.ca http://achieve.utoronto.ca From Robert.N.Gonzalez@williams.edu Fri May 11 13:04:07 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 11 May 2001 13:04:08 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AA8428772 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 13:04:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from orion.williams.edu (orion.williams.edu [137.165.4.6]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 177E41A0B76 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 12:57:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by williams.edu (PMDF V5.2-33 #39697) id <0GD600701N7JIE@williams.edu> for encore@utdallas.edu; Fri, 11 May 2001 13:57:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from thalia.williams.edu (thalia.williams.edu [137.165.4.103]) by williams.edu (PMDF V5.2-33 #39697) with ESMTP id <0GD600HHHN7J51@williams.edu> for encore@utdallas.edu; Fri, 11 May 2001 13:57:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:57:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Rob Gonzalez Subject: [encore] Re: Gaming MOOs In-reply-to: To: encore@utdallas.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 41 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Robert.N.Gonzalez@williams.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore I was addicted to a MUD a few years ago called DragonRealms (http://www.dragonrealms.com). It's darn good, and a really complicated world. It's also one of the very few commercial MUDs left (as such, it costs a little bit to join...but only like $10/month, first month free, or something) so has WAY more features than any competing, free MUD would (and therefore more that we could learn from). MUDs and MOOs are very much related. In fact, I believe the only technical difference is in the implementation (MOOs are Object Oriented, MUDs are procedural). I, too, am very interested in making a game-like MOO, as it's a lot more fun for students. One of the aspects of games that I would like to take advantage of in particular is that of "Experience" and "level gaining". That is, as a student accomplishes certain tasks or shows proficiency in certain areas, his/her character gets more "power" (or money, or some other reward). This type of goal-oriented environment I find to be very stimulating for most people. Cheers, Rob On Fri, 11 May 2001, Lennie Irvin wrote: > I was wondering if anyone knew of some good gaming MOOs (particularly if > they are enCore MOOs). I am not necessarily looking for recreation and fun, > but I want to experience this aspect of MOOing. It seems to me like some > blending of "gaming" and learning might be very interesting. Does anyone > know of examples where someone in an educational MOO has used gaming for a > pedagogical purpose? > > Thanks, > > Lennie Irvin > San Antonio College > > > > > From jason.nolan@utoronto.ca Fri May 11 13:54:03 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 11 May 2001 13:54:04 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9653C28761 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 13:54:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca (bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca [128.100.132.16]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68D9D1A0B0E for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 13:47:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cente.oise.utoronto.ca ([142.150.98.74] EHLO [142.150.98.74] ident: NO-IDENT-SERVICE [port 49282]) by bureau6.utcc.utoronto.ca with ESMTP id <464174-24446>; Fri, 11 May 2001 14:46:46 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: jason.nolan@mailbox91.utcc.utoronto.ca Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010511115005.A18966@green.humn.arts.ualberta.ca> References: <20010511115005.A18966@green.humn.arts.ualberta.ca> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:46:29 -0400 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: JASON NOLAN Subject: [encore] Re: two questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-archive-position: 42 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jason.nolan@utoronto.ca Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore That's Matthew Beerman. ;-) He's the wonderful programmer, but he wrote the software for one of my projects. If I get funding for a revision of VASE, I'll definitely put out a call for feature additions. I agree that your suggestion is a good one. Thanks. Jason >Hello Everyone, > >I suppose my first question is for Max Beerman, whose VASE, like enCore, gets >better and better. It's about bulleted and numbered lists. I would >like to be >able to introduce these lists with a sentence or two, as with >"Here's a list of >my favourite things." As VASE stands, if I put this introduction >into the list's >data box, it becomes the first item on the list, which is not what I >want. One >alternative is to design a paragraph prior to each list, but I'd >rather not use >up the parts of a section in this way. Maybe this is too picky. -- Jason Nolan, PhD Project Director Project Achieve: Schoolnet's MOO http://moo.schoolnet.ca http://achieve.utoronto.ca From wesley@green.humn.arts.ualberta.ca Fri May 11 15:26:20 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 11 May 2001 15:26:21 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E0D828763 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 15:26:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from green.humn.arts.ualberta.ca (green.humn.arts.ualberta.ca [129.128.113.22]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291F21A00EC for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 15:19:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from wesley@localhost) by green.humn.arts.ualberta.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f4BKJfO19189 for encore@utdallas.edu; Fri, 11 May 2001 14:19:41 -0600 Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:19:41 -0600 From: Cooper To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] re first question Message-ID: <20010511141941.A19180@green.humn.arts.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-archive-position: 43 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: wesley@green.humn.arts.ualberta.ca Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Thanks to Jason for his reply. A partial solution to my first problem is to hack #161:view_html so that lines 69 and 76 change from for item in [1..length(value)] to for item in [2..length(value)] This way, the first line in the data box is not listed, so it can serve to introduce the list without being a part of it. If you want the list without an introduction, just leave blank the first line of the data box. Ugly, but it works. Wes Cooper From egoff@mindspring.com Fri May 11 19:25:06 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 11 May 2001 19:25:07 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C628F28765 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 19:25:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net (barry.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.25]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7D71A0B89 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 19:18:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from master (user-2ivet0p.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.116.25]) by barry.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA26787; Fri, 11 May 2001 20:18:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010511201726.007bbae0@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: egoff@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 20:17:26 -0400 To: encore@utdallas.edu, encore@utdallas.edu From: egoff Subject: [encore] Re: Gaming MOOs In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-archive-position: 44 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: egoff@mindspring.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore I agree it would have to be how gaming is defined. Those of us who still run and started with the old text based moo's have been into a bit of everything now and then. SEveral 3D moo projects have started and failed. Where I'm not talking about Encore but real 3d grahpics like you would see in your games. There are several RPG sites, all text base with code "assistance" as we call it. Role playing is a great way to join up in an adventure and forget who you are for a short time period. At 12:59 PM 5/11/01 -0400, JASON NOLAN wrote: >Interesting question. It would depend on what you define as gaming. >D&D style role playing? Or other types of roleplaying? >I don't know any, but I'd like to know, and to have a sense of how >'gaming' is unpacked. > >>I was wondering if anyone knew of some good gaming MOOs (particularly if >>they are enCore MOOs). I am not necessarily looking for recreation and fun, >>but I want to experience this aspect of MOOing. It seems to me like some >>blending of "gaming" and learning might be very interesting. Does anyone >>know of examples where someone in an educational MOO has used gaming for a >>pedagogical purpose? >> >>Thanks, >> >>Lennie Irvin >>San Antonio College > >-- >Jason Nolan, PhD >Project Director >Project Achieve: Schoolnet's MOO >http://moo.schoolnet.ca >http://achieve.utoronto.ca > > From sands@uwm.edu Tue May 15 10:52:37 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 15 May 2001 10:52:38 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFA02875F for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 10:52:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from batch3.csd.uwm.edu (batch3.csd.uwm.edu [129.89.7.226]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CDF61A05E2 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 10:45:44 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (root@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu [129.89.7.202]) by batch3.csd.uwm.edu (8.8.4/8.6.8) with ESMTP id KAA08023 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 10:45:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from uwm (host-48-185.dhcp.uwm.edu [129.89.48.185]) by alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (8.8.4/8.6.8) with SMTP id KAA26559 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 10:45:36 -0500 (CDT) From: "Peter Sands" To: "encore" Subject: [encore] problem Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:50:54 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-archive-position: 45 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: sands@uwm.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi -- At http://moo.english.uwm.edu:7000 . . . is a new iteration of our UWM MOO. I've been having it set up by a couple of computer science students for an independent study project. They've got it running on Linux, but can't get the left-hand window (the Mootcan window) and the graphical icons for navigation to appear. I think they've put things in the wrong directories . . . any thoughts, anyone? -- Peter Sands, U. Wisconsin-Milwaukee sands@uwm.edu || http://www.uwm.edu/~sands English Department || http://www.uwm.edu/Dept/English/ 414.229.4416 || 414.229.2643 (fax) From karper@expert.cc.purdue.edu Tue May 15 11:03:24 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 15 May 2001 11:03:25 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B507F2875F for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 11:03:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from expert.cc.purdue.edu (expert.cc.purdue.edu [128.210.10.11]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709981A06A3 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 10:56:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (karper@localhost) by expert.cc.purdue.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA16727 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 10:56:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:56:32 -0500 (EST) From: Erin Karper To: encore Subject: [encore] Re: problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 46 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: karper@expert.cc.purdue.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore On Tue, 15 May 2001, Peter Sands wrote: > Hi -- > > At http://moo.english.uwm.edu:7000 > > . . . is a new iteration of our UWM MOO. I've been having it set up by a > couple of computer science students for an independent study project. > They've got it running on Linux, but can't get the left-hand window (the > Mootcan window) and the graphical icons for navigation to appear. I think > they've put things in the wrong directories . . . any thoughts, anyone? Did they log in to it via telnet first and run @configure-core first? You need to do that to make sure that encore knows where things are. If they did that, can you maybe give us a paste of what it says? Erin From jan.holmevik@hedb.uib.no Tue May 15 11:51:42 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 15 May 2001 11:51:43 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D232875F for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 11:51:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C7E21A06F6 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 11:44:47 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cm31383-b.ftwrth1.tx.home.com [24.4.16.114] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.16) id 14zhvx-0002M6-00; Tue, 15 May 2001 18:44:30 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:44:55 -0500 Subject: [encore] Re: problem From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 47 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@hedb.uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore The problem appears to be your base url which is currently set to moo.english.uwm.edu/~lambdaps/encore/ Change it to http://moo.english.uwm.edu/~lambdaps/encore/ Another thing, when I tried the URL http://moo.english.uwm.edu/ just now I couldn't get a connection. It looks like there may not be a web server running on your machine at the moment. Verify that the machine has a web server, and that it's running, then connect to the MOO via telnet, type @configure and select menu option #18 and change the base url to the above, then try using Xpress again. Cheers, Jan On 5/15/01 10:50 AM, Peter Sands at sands@uwm.edu wrote: > Hi -- > > At http://moo.english.uwm.edu:7000 > > . . . is a new iteration of our UWM MOO. I've been having it set up by a > couple of computer science students for an independent study project. > They've got it running on Linux, but can't get the left-hand window (the > Mootcan window) and the graphical icons for navigation to appear. I think > they've put things in the wrong directories . . . any thoughts, anyone? > > > > -- > Peter Sands, U. Wisconsin-Milwaukee > sands@uwm.edu || http://www.uwm.edu/~sands > English Department || http://www.uwm.edu/Dept/English/ > 414.229.4416 || 414.229.2643 (fax) > > > __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From sands@uwm.edu Tue May 15 12:43:15 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 15 May 2001 12:43:16 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48E062875F for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 12:43:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from batch3.csd.uwm.edu (batch3.csd.uwm.edu [129.89.7.226]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68FA1A0723 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 12:36:22 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (root@alpha2.csd.uwm.edu [129.89.7.202]) by batch3.csd.uwm.edu (8.8.4/8.6.8) with ESMTP id MAA08993 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 12:36:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from uwm (host-48-185.dhcp.uwm.edu [129.89.48.185]) by alpha2.csd.uwm.edu (8.8.4/8.6.8) with SMTP id MAA22703 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 12:36:22 -0500 (CDT) From: "Peter Sands" To: Subject: [encore] Re: problem Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:41:40 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-archive-position: 48 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: sands@uwm.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore For some reason, the only way to get a connection is to add the port # -- http://moo.english.uwm.edu:7000 -- Peter Sands, U. Wisconsin-Milwaukee sands@uwm.edu || http://www.uwm.edu/~sands English Department || http://www.uwm.edu/Dept/English/ 414.229.4416 || 414.229.2643 (fax) > -----Original Message----- > From: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu [mailto:encore-bounce@utdallas.edu]On > Behalf Of Jan Rune Holmevik > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 11:45 AM > To: encore@utdallas.edu > Subject: [encore] Re: problem > > > The problem appears to be your base url which is currently set to > > moo.english.uwm.edu/~lambdaps/encore/ > > Change it to > > http://moo.english.uwm.edu/~lambdaps/encore/ > > Another thing, when I tried the URL http://moo.english.uwm.edu/ just now I > couldn't get a connection. It looks like there may not be a web server > running on your machine at the moment. Verify that the machine has a web > server, and that it's running, then connect to the MOO via telnet, type > @configure and select menu option #18 and change the base url to > the above, > then try using Xpress again. > > Cheers, > Jan > > On 5/15/01 10:50 AM, Peter Sands at sands@uwm.edu wrote: > > > Hi -- > > > > At http://moo.english.uwm.edu:7000 > > > > . . . is a new iteration of our UWM MOO. I've been having it set up by a > > couple of computer science students for an independent study project. > > They've got it running on Linux, but can't get the left-hand window (the > > Mootcan window) and the graphical icons for navigation to > appear. I think > > they've put things in the wrong directories . . . any thoughts, anyone? > > > > > > > > -- > > Peter Sands, U. Wisconsin-Milwaukee > > sands@uwm.edu || http://www.uwm.edu/~sands > > English Department || http://www.uwm.edu/Dept/English/ > > 414.229.4416 || 414.229.2643 (fax) > > > > > > > > > __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ > University of Bergen jan@mac.com > Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no > Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu > N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan > > > > From karper@expert.cc.purdue.edu Tue May 15 16:09:50 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 15 May 2001 16:09:51 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAD62875F for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 16:09:50 -0500 (CDT) Received: from expert.cc.purdue.edu (expert.cc.purdue.edu [128.210.10.11]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9111A07BA for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 16:02:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (karper@localhost) by expert.cc.purdue.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA05133 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 16:02:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:02:54 -0500 (EST) From: Erin Karper To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 49 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: karper@expert.cc.purdue.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore On Tue, 15 May 2001, Peter Sands wrote: > For some reason, the only way to get a connection is to add the port # -- > > http://moo.english.uwm.edu:7000 When httpd died on my Linux box running Encore, I could get a connection on the 7000 port but not on the main URL. I think this was becuase the MOO application that listens on 7000 was still working, but the webserver wasn't. I was also having similar problems with being able to start a connection but not having images come up, and MOOtcan wasn't being called properly. You might want to see if you're having the same problem. To see if httpd is running on your machine, telnet or ssh to your machine and run the following command from a prompt: ps ax|grep httpd If httpd is not running, the only process it will return is the ps that you just asked for. If it is running, it will show a couple different processes running. To restart httpd, run the following command as root: /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd restart That will restart httpd and your web server. (Well, it works on my system, which is a red hat one. If you're running a different flavor of Linux, you may need to poke around to find out where httpd lives on your machine.) Let me know if this helps. (If you don't have this kind of access on your machine, you can just ask your admin to check and make sure that the webserver is running. S/he should know what to do.) Erin From oliver@aec.at Wed May 16 12:28:39 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Wed, 16 May 2001 12:28:39 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD40728771 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 12:28:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from web.aec.at (web.aec.at [195.3.98.15]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D201A06FA for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 12:21:39 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (oliver@localhost) by web.aec.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA17590 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 19:21:31 +0200 Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 19:21:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Frommel To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] problems with encore xpress Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 50 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: oliver@aec.at Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore hi, suddenly (?) the xpress part of your encore moo sver stopped working. first we got the following error message from the still running web server: #125:parse_url, line 24:Property not found ... called from #32:execute_HTTP_request, line 22 (End of traceback) then, after restarting the moo, the web server doesn't even run and the @configure menu returns this error (selecting item 15): #57:@configure*-core (this == #2), line 217: Property not found (End of traceback) any ideas how I could fix this?? thanks for your help --oliver From oliver@aec.at Thu May 17 04:03:32 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 17 May 2001 04:03:33 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFFE428771 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 04:03:31 -0500 (CDT) Received: from web.aec.at (web.aec.at [195.3.98.15]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73BE1A0957 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 03:56:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (oliver@localhost) by web.aec.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA01330 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 10:56:26 +0200 Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 10:56:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Frommel To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] import/export objects Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 51 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: oliver@aec.at Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore hi, concerning my problem (looks like a somehow corrupted database) I'd like to know if there's a way to export/import certain objects. There's a db prior to the corruption but I'd like to integrate certain changes done in parallel to the now corrupted db .. thanks for your help --oliver From claudijo@piiip.net Thu May 17 09:44:03 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 17 May 2001 09:44:04 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 729BC28766 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 09:44:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from eden.grace.se (unknown [193.10.139.9]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E281A03CF for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 09:37:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:41:49 +0200 Subject: [encore] @dump and integrity To: encore@utdallas.edu From: "Claudijo Borovic" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 52 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: claudijo@piiip.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hi everyone I have a question about the @dump command and if there is some easy way to limit the commands permission. I feel that @dump compromises the integrity in the MOO that I am running, where all the students are totally anonymous to each other. I tried to comment out line 7 in the code that says “set_task_perms(player);” since the built-in function set_task_perms() is described as follows in the LambdaMOOManual Function: none set_task_perms (obj who) Changes the permissions with which the currently-executing verb is running to be those of who. If the programmer is neither who nor a wizard, then E_PERM is raised. Note: This does not change the owner of the currently-running verb, only the permissions of this particular invocation. It is used in verbs owned by wizards to make themselves run with lesser (usually non-wizard) permissions. This doesn’t help though… Please help :) warmest regards /Claudijo Borovic --- Pip Pedagogisk idé & produktion --- Mobil 070/7493732 Webb http://www.piiip.net From claudijo@piiip.net Thu May 17 10:40:42 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 17 May 2001 10:40:43 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B95E28766 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 10:40:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from eden.grace.se (unknown [193.10.139.9]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 945E61A095C for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 10:33:46 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 17:38:45 +0200 Subject: [encore] Re: @dump and integrity To: encore@utdallas.edu From: "Claudijo Borovic" References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 53 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: claudijo@piiip.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Kind of solved it by putting the following lines at the top 7: if (is_player(dobj) && dobj != player) 8: player:tell("You can't @dump other players than yourself."); 9: player:tell("***Command aborted***"); 10: return; 11: endif Hopefully it doesn't interfere with any special purpose of @dump. Cheers /Claudijo From jan.holmevik@hedb.uib.no Fri May 18 11:13:46 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Fri, 18 May 2001 11:13:46 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68CF2875F for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 11:13:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6051A023B for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 11:06:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cm31383-b.ftwrth1.tx.home.com [24.4.16.114] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.16) id 150mlp-0000WG-00; Fri, 18 May 2001 18:06:29 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:06:56 -0500 Subject: [encore] Re: import/export objects From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 54 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@hedb.uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore In most cases a "corrupted" database can be fixed. The most obvious exception is if the database was corrupted during a dump. I.e. the MOO server, or the machine was shut down in the middle of a backup. Do you have a clear idea about what is corrupted and how it happened? Cheers, Jan On 5/17/01 3:56 AM, Oliver Frommel at oliver@aec.at wrote: > hi, > > concerning my problem (looks like a somehow corrupted database) I'd like to > know if there's a way to export/import certain objects. There's a db prior to > the corruption but I'd like to integrate certain changes done in parallel to > the now corrupted db .. > > thanks for your help > --oliver > > > > __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From oliver@aec.at Sun May 20 17:13:52 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 20 May 2001 17:13:53 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CB3E2875F for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 17:13:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from web.aec.at (web.aec.at [195.3.98.15]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3841D1A04D2 for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 17:06:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (oliver@localhost) by web.aec.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA23692 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 00:06:46 +0200 Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 00:06:46 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Frommel To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: import/export objects In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 55 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: oliver@aec.at Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore > In most cases a "corrupted" database can be fixed. The most obvious > exception is if the database was corrupted during a dump. I.e. the MOO > server, or the machine was shut down in the middle of a backup. > > Do you have a clear idea about what is corrupted and how it happened? > the "corruption" is the problem i was referring to in an earlier posting (one day ago), where xpress stopped working with this message: #57:@configure*-core (this == #2), line 217: Property not found now I still have a valid dump with working xpress but with some (hopefully non-destructive :) changes. so the thing I'd like to do is dump said changes from the "corrupted" db and load them into the db with working express. is there a way to do that? thanks for your help --oliver From am@anmore.com.au Sun May 20 17:47:19 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 20 May 2001 17:47:20 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909602875F for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 17:47:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from laudanum.net (server42.aitcom.net [208.234.0.36]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B1C1A0019 for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 17:40:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from pc (CPE-203-45-75-15.nsw.bigpond.net.au [203.45.75.15]) by laudanum.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA12526 for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 18:40:15 -0400 Message-ID: <000901c0e17f$77eef8a0$0100a8c0@pc> From: "anmore" To: References: Subject: [encore] Re: import/export objects Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 08:51:51 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 X-archive-position: 56 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: am@anmore.com.au Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore well I am really wondering about this.... this happened to me as well, I ended up using an old saved version (lost lots of stuff) and I thought it was becos I was hacking some verbs at the time (well not big time hacking) ..but it ended up really setting the project backward..as it occured just before completition. So hopefully the answers you are getting are being sent to this list becos I would be very interested to hear the fixes..... and it has probably happened to others as well it would seem. anmore ----- Original Message ----- From: "Oliver Frommel" To: Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 8:06 AM Subject: [encore] Re: import/export objects > > In most cases a "corrupted" database can be fixed. The most obvious > > exception is if the database was corrupted during a dump. I.e. the MOO > > server, or the machine was shut down in the middle of a backup. > > > > Do you have a clear idea about what is corrupted and how it happened? > > > > the "corruption" is the problem i was referring to in an earlier posting (one > day ago), where xpress stopped working with this message: > > #57:@configure*-core (this == #2), line 217: Property not found > > now I still have a valid dump with working xpress but with some (hopefully > non-destructive :) changes. so the thing I'd like to do is dump said changes > from the "corrupted" db and load them into the db with working express. > is there a way to do that? > > thanks for your help > --oliver > > > From jan.holmevik@hedb.uib.no Sun May 20 23:46:03 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Sun, 20 May 2001 23:46:04 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30A92875F for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 23:46:02 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7881A04A9 for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 23:38:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cm31383-b.ftwrth1.tx.home.com [24.4.16.114] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.16) id 151hSr-0003Ab-00; Mon, 21 May 2001 06:38:41 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 23:39:15 -0500 Subject: [encore] Re: import/export objects From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000901c0e17f$77eef8a0$0100a8c0@pc> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 57 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@hedb.uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore I have not been able to determine the cause of these problems yet. Will post a summary here once I know what's going on. Cheers, Jan On 5/20/01 5:51 PM, anmore at am@anmore.com.au wrote: > well I am really wondering about this.... this happened to me as well, I > ended up using an old saved version (lost lots of stuff) and I thought it > was becos I was hacking some verbs at the time (well not big time hacking) > ..but it ended up really setting the project backward..as it occured just > before completition. > > So hopefully the answers you are getting are being sent to this list becos I > would be very interested to hear the fixes..... and it has probably happened > to others as well it would seem. > > anmore __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From keustace@csu.edu.au Mon May 21 02:10:12 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 21 May 2001 02:10:13 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F2528766 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 02:10:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from csunb.mit.csu.edu.au (csunb.mit.csu.edu.au [137.166.16.1]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF481A0292 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 02:03:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from postoffice.CSU.edu.au (postoffice.csu.edu.au [137.166.201.112]) by csunb.mit.csu.edu.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4L6wW527822 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 16:58:32 +1000 (EST) Received: from keustace-dt (keustace-dt.riv.csu.edu.au [137.166.104.26]) by postoffice.CSU.edu.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f4L6wWV02169 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 16:58:32 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <200105210658.f4L6wWV02169@postoffice.CSU.edu.au> From: "Ken Eustace" Organization: Charles Sturt University To: encore@utdallas.edu Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:03:36 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: [encore] LC_MOO login problems Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) X-archive-position: 58 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: keustace@csu.edu.au Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Greetings, At LC_MOO (http://ispg.csu.edu.au:8800) we have a PhD student working on a childrens' literacy project with 11-year olds.We are still using 2.0.4, but will upgrade soon. The problem appears to centre on LC_MOO settings. Exactly 24 people can log in and then no more. After last week I thought it might just have been too many people at once, but that is not the case. Some students logged in 10 minutes early to avoid congestion, then she logged her moocams in, then students form another school connected. 24 seems to be the maximum. She had to disconnect the moocams and some students paired up on computers to allow Friends students to get on. This is unworkable for her research, as she cannot collect data and the sessions cannot operate when only half the kids in a room can connect. We have had 80 maximum last year, but this problem seems to be new? Any ideas? -Ken ========================================================================== Ken Eustace E-mail: keustace@csu.edu.au Lecturer,Information Technology Phone: +61-2-6933 2832; Mobile: 0413 363 229 Charles Sturt University Facsimile: +61-2-6933 2733 Locked Bag 675 Wagga Wagga WWW: http://farrer.csu.edu.au/~keustace NSW 2678 AUSTRALIA MOO: http://farrer.csu.edu.au/moo/jv ========================================================================= Students need clear goals, and knowledge of the tools and methods they might use to accomplish those goals. And then they need for us to stand out of the way and let them learn. From oliver@aec.at Mon May 21 08:05:12 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 21 May 2001 08:05:12 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75E442875F for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 08:05:11 -0500 (CDT) Received: from web.aec.at (unknown [195.3.98.15]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816941A012B for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 07:58:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (oliver@localhost) by web.aec.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA06700; Mon, 21 May 2001 14:57:38 +0200 Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:57:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Frommel To: Jan Rune Holmevik Cc: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] Re: problems with encore xpress In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-archive-position: 59 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: oliver@aec.at Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore > > 1) What core version are you using? > The database is based on enCore 2.1.1 which was created on Jun 18, 2000 for version 1.8.1 of the LambdaMOO server. > 2) When did the problem first occur? > > 3) Was anything being done right before the problem occurred? > > 4) Have anyone made modifications to the core database? > it looks like someone recycled the xpress object - i can find it in the recycler. is there a way to "unrecycle" it or to import/recreate the xpress object in the running core? --oliver From support@hyper.it Mon May 21 08:19:44 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 21 May 2001 08:19:45 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285BB2875F for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 08:19:43 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ermano.hyper.it (62-122-71-41.flat.galactica.it [62.122.71.41]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC9D1A04EC for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 08:09:25 -0500 (CDT) Received: from neo.hyper.it (neo.hyper.it [192.168.1.9]) by ermano.hyper.it (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4LD4gZ03217 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 15:04:42 +0200 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20010521150749.00a61eb0@192.168.1.10> X-Sender: technoid@192.168.1.10 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:09:17 +0200 To: encore@utdallas.edu From: Andrey Buikis Subject: [encore] XML MOO Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-archive-position: 60 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: support@hyper.it Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Hello, I am implementing Macromedia Flash Interface for MOO and I would like to know if someone have tried to make output of MOO as XML information. Any comments and ideas are welcome too Thank You, Andrey Buikis ----------------------------------------------- Hyper, Via Pisacane 23 PF+39.0578.20939 Chiusi 53043, Siena, IT M +39.0348.7385551 ICANN @ Large Member PGP A224 A3F3 B663 9246 7731 7155 331A C8F2 From Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Mon May 21 13:04:06 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 21 May 2001 13:04:07 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF5B28891 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 13:04:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mailhub.Dartmouth.EDU (mailhub.dartmouth.edu [129.170.16.6]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00DA1A000F for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 12:57:03 -0500 (CDT) Received: from donner.Dartmouth.EDU (donner.dartmouth.edu [129.170.208.3]) by mailhub.Dartmouth.EDU (8.9.3+DND/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA32349 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 13:57:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200105211757.NAA32349@mailhub.Dartmouth.EDU> X-Disclaimer: This message was received from outside Dartmouth's BlitzMail system. Received: by donner.Dartmouth.EDU (Mac) via SMTP from berry91-dhcp-149.dartmouth.edu [129.170.91.149] for encore@utdallas.edu id <51597891> 21 May 2001 13:57:03 EDT Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:57:01 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.388) From: "Mark A. ONeil" To: encore@utdallas.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v388) In-Reply-To: Subject: [encore] special characters in encore Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 61 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Perhaps this has been changed in the new release perhaps not (I have yet to walk that path) but: when one enters special characters (accents etc.) in the descriptions for generic web pages they (as one would expect) do not display correctly in the browser (names of links/objects are a problem too). Has anyone put together a fix for this? I am thinking of something like a translate_text2html on submitting the description. regards, -m From jan.holmevik@hedb.uib.no Mon May 21 13:09:11 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 21 May 2001 13:09:12 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45D3288A6 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 13:09:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0A71A00DB for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 13:02:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mac2344.utdallas.edu [129.110.23.44] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.16) id 151u05-0005Sx-00; Mon, 21 May 2001 20:01:49 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:02:23 -0500 Subject: [encore] Re: special characters in encore From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200105211757.NAA32349@mailhub.Dartmouth.EDU> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 62 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@hedb.uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore Would love to see a verb that does this. Go for it! Cheers, Jan On 5/21/01 12:57 PM, Mark A. ONeil at Mark.A.ONeil@Dartmouth.EDU wrote: > Perhaps this has been changed in the new release perhaps not (I have yet > to walk that path) but: > > when one enters special characters (accents etc.) in the descriptions > for generic web pages they (as one would expect) do not display > correctly in the browser (names of links/objects are a problem too). > > Has anyone put together a fix for this? I am thinking of something like > a translate_text2html on submitting the description. > > regards, > -m > > __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From wesley@green.humn.arts.ualberta.ca Mon May 21 15:32:38 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 21 May 2001 15:32:39 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E829A28887 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 15:32:37 -0500 (CDT) Received: from green.humn.arts.ualberta.ca (green.humn.arts.ualberta.ca [129.128.113.22]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B1771A0548 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 15:25:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from wesley@localhost) by green.humn.arts.ualberta.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f4LKPHg11639 for encore@utdallas.edu; Mon, 21 May 2001 14:25:17 -0600 Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:25:17 -0600 From: Cooper To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] a VASE question Message-ID: <20010521142517.A11633@green.humn.arts.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-archive-position: 63 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: wesley@green.humn.arts.ualberta.ca Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore I'd like to upload a student paper into VASE. This can be useful if a student sends an email version, pleading inability to deal with VASE. Putting the paper on VASE allows the instructor to deal with it as with the other papers, while giving the student time to figure out the VASE protocol before the next assignment. So: I added a property to the assignment object, so that @props shows the student's ID# as a property along with the other students'. Then I gave the new property the value of a list with three elements: the student's name, email address, and the text of the paper. (To make sure I didn't build this property incorrectly, I copied an existing property to the new one, then changed the three elements.) At this point I expected to see the new paper on the list of submissions, but it's not there. Is there some other property that gets adjusted when a student submits a VASE project? TIA, Wes From wesley@green.humn.arts.ualberta.ca Mon May 21 17:25:50 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Mon, 21 May 2001 17:25:51 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B951128761 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 17:25:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from green.humn.arts.ualberta.ca (green.humn.arts.ualberta.ca [129.128.113.22]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59FE81A01A5 for ; Mon, 21 May 2001 17:18:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from wesley@localhost) by green.humn.arts.ualberta.ca (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f4LLaYH11740 for encore@utdallas.edu; Mon, 21 May 2001 15:36:34 -0600 Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:36:34 -0600 From: Cooper To: encore@utdallas.edu Subject: [encore] a VASE answer Message-ID: <20010521153634.A11730@green.humn.arts.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-archive-position: 64 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: wesley@green.humn.arts.ualberta.ca Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore I apologize for spamming the list, but I answered my VASE question and feel obliged to pass it on. My problem was due to failing to check for inherited properties, specfically the properties on #161 (Generic Assignment). To add a student project yourself you have to add eir db# to the assignment object's "handed_in" property and time() to its "handed_in_time" property, and you should probably take care to reproduce the structure of its "format" property in the value you give to ."#nnn", where #nnn is the student's player ID. If you do all that, everything works fine, as far as I can tell. From jan.holmevik@hedb.uib.no Tue May 22 12:14:56 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Tue, 22 May 2001 12:14:57 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4DF828761 for ; Tue, 22 May 2001 12:14:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C4E1A0692 for ; Tue, 22 May 2001 12:07:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cm31383-b.ftwrth1.tx.home.com [24.4.16.114] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.16) id 152Fd6-0002xI-00; Tue, 22 May 2001 19:07:32 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 12:08:09 -0500 Subject: [encore] Re: a VASE question From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <001101c0e239$f59686f0$8a0a10ac@iu.de> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-archive-position: 65 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@hedb.uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore > PS: As an aside to Jan, any hope of getting the perl script that runs the > file management utilities posted? I assume you mean the Vase.cgi script? If so, that script is included in th= e enCore 3.0 distribution. It can be found in a folder named vase inside the encore root folder. (i.e. /encore/vase/vase.cgi) Since I'm on the topic of VASE, let me take this opportunity of publicly thank Emma Jane Hogbin of Project Achieve who is the author of the vase.cgi script. Unfortunately, I forgot to include her name in the contributor's list for the 3.0 relese, so please take a moment and update the contributor= s property below in your MOO. Thanks. Cheers, Jan=20 ;;#0.("contributors") =3D {"Credits: Jan Rune Holmevik, Cynthia Haynes, Sindr= e S=F8rensen, Ken Schweller, Mark Blanchard, Jorge Barrios, Amy Bruckman, Matthew Campbell, John Towell, Gustavo Glusman, Craig Leikis, Juli Burk, Michael Thompson, Rui Miguel Barbosa Pinto, Andrew Wilson, Ken Fox, Matthew Beermann, Jason Nolan, Noel Davis, Stephen Ashley, Herv=E9 Collin, and Emma Jane Hogbin."} __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan From claudijo@piiip.net Thu May 24 09:19:22 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 24 May 2001 09:19:23 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B16B828761 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 09:19:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from eden.grace.se (unknown [193.10.139.9]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16731A0380 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 09:12:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:09:05 +0200 Subject: [encore] How to create a new $web_application? To: encore@utdallas.edu From: "Claudijo Borovic" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 66 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: claudijo@piiip.net Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore I try to create a new webb_aplication-object but a can't realy figure out how they work. Do my new webb_application have to be in some sort of registry (like the system object) in order to work? Is it a good idea to use a web_application if I want to create some content in a new frame in the main enCore window (rather than to open the content in a new browser window), or is the web_object a better choice in that case? As you might understand, I'm trying to play around with the user interface :) Regards Claudijo Borovic From jan.holmevik@hedb.uib.no Thu May 24 10:47:33 2001 Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list encore); Thu, 24 May 2001 10:47:34 -0500 Return-Path: Delivered-To: encore@nobel.utdallas.edu Received: from ns0.utdallas.edu (null-smtp.utdallas.edu [192.168.1.1]) by nobel.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B698028761 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 10:47:32 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alf.uib.no (alf.uib.no [129.177.30.3]) by ns0.utdallas.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E99F61A0071 for ; Thu, 24 May 2001 10:40:20 -0500 (CDT) Received: from cm31383-b.ftwrth1.tx.home.com [24.4.16.114] by alf.uib.no for encore@utdallas.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.16) id 152xDU-0004Ju-00; Thu, 24 May 2001 17:40:00 +0200 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:40:41 -0500 Subject: [encore] Re: How to create a new $web_application? From: Jan Rune Holmevik To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-archive-position: 67 X-listar-version: Listar v1.0.0 Sender: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu Errors-to: encore-bounce@utdallas.edu X-original-sender: jan.holmevik@hedb.uib.no Precedence: bulk Reply-to: encore@utdallas.edu List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Listar version 1.0.0 X-List-ID: X-list: encore On 5/24/01 9:09 AM, Claudijo Borovic at claudijo@piiip.net wrote: > I try to create a new webb_aplication-object but a can't realy figure out > how they work. Do my new webb_application have to be in some sort of > registry (like the system object) in order to work? Yes, if it's a subclass of $encore_web_application it must be corified in order to work. > Is it a good idea to use a web_application if I want to create some > content in a new frame in the main enCore window (rather than to open the > content in a new browser window), or is the web_object a better choice in > that case? If it's a one of a kind utility app use $enCore_web_application. If it's more of a typical object, use $encore_web_object. If you want your app to be able to accept anonymous input data (from unauthenticated connections), use $encore_cgi_application. Good luck. Cheers, Jan __Jan Rune Holmevik, Cand Philol_________________________________________ University of Bergen jan@mac.com Department of Humanistic Informatics jan.holmevik@uib.no Sydnesplass 7, HF-bygget janruneh@utdallas.edu N-5007 Bergen, NORWAY http://lingua.utdallas.edu/jan